WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - Chadfishing, parental affairs and a bridesmaid's threesomes

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands

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<v Speaker 1>were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders

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<v Speaker 1>past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>recorded on d rug Wallamuta Land. Hi guys, and welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to another episode of Life on Cut. I'm Laura,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Brittany, and this is ours gun cut. It is

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<v Speaker 2>our Thursday little therapy session. But we answer you're dack,

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<v Speaker 2>you dark, you're be any questions, Hi, Brittany.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny is it that we've turned up in the exact

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<v Speaker 1>same thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? But not only do we show up in the

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<v Speaker 2>exact same thing, It's not like we're wearing like the

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<v Speaker 2>black or neutral. We've rocked up looking like we're out

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<v Speaker 2>a baby boy birthday reveal, No birthday reveal, birth reveal. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gender revealed. It's powdered blue.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a powder blue baby blue top and the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same denim.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got, exact same hair. I think that this just

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<v Speaker 2>means we spend too much time together all the things

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<v Speaker 2>we could have worn, of all the very minimal colorful

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<v Speaker 2>things that we have in both of our wardrobe so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm usually very nude.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you are, Like I'm not, as in naked, always

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<v Speaker 1>naked and naked.

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<v Speaker 2>She's always here with no clothes on. No, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very neutral. Yeah, I'm very black.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've turned up in the exact same thing and

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<v Speaker 1>we just did Okay, we just did an amazing interview

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<v Speaker 1>with Matthew Hussey. And the first thing as we walked

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<v Speaker 1>in like he's been on the list for so long,

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<v Speaker 1>it's dropping next week.

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<v Speaker 2>We're very excited. He's an absolute legend.

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<v Speaker 1>But Laura and I walked into each other and we're like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so embarrassing, and it looks like we've turned

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<v Speaker 1>up for the interview in uniform, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a lifelin cut uniform. We've got a pink backdrop,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got a baby blue top. The first thing we

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<v Speaker 2>said to him was like, just so you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't a uniform, which, to be fair, he did

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<v Speaker 2>not care. We did care, but we did were like

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<v Speaker 2>this was our big shot.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Yeah, we just spent too much time together and

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<v Speaker 2>we're turning into the same person. And soon I am

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<v Speaker 2>also going to start laughing like a kooker bar.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh please don't do that. But so funny you say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been getting a lot of messages lately. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's just that it's the podcast has been

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<v Speaker 1>going for nearly four years, so I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's timing thing, But so many people have been writing

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<v Speaker 1>to me saying that they have somehow started laughing like me,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're good. They've picked up the line I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>for this is good. Spread it around like the seed

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<v Speaker 1>it is. You can avoid picking this up. Do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Do it? Because there is no antidote. There's no treatment

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<v Speaker 2>for this. There's no cream it's going to help you.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no treatment, there is no clinic you can

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<v Speaker 1>go to to detox.

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<v Speaker 2>This stays with you forever. Can I just say when

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<v Speaker 2>I say your cuook a burro, laugh before anybody slides

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<v Speaker 2>into my DMS and tells me how many I am

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<v Speaker 2>to you. It's an in joke. It's because somebody once

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<v Speaker 2>wrote a review saying that brit sounds like a cooko

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<v Speaker 2>bar and now we all giggle about it together. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>a coook a barro is a very treasured national animal,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it. It's also I'll tell you a hot tip,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, can have this one for free. It is

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<v Speaker 2>the world's biggest kingfisher, is it? That's good? Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for bringing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Lad.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. I know you come here to have your

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<v Speaker 2>questions answered, and let me tell you I know some

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<v Speaker 2>stupid fats. Okay, David Ibro, what else have you got? Ma?

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<v Speaker 2>Justic cuok a bar? Do you know? Lies over? What's

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<v Speaker 2>the only animal?

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<v Speaker 1>Just while we're on animal facts, what's the only animal

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<v Speaker 1>with four legs that can't jump?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's not the fact. A wombat? No, that's not it.

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<v Speaker 4>Good.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the only animal? Also?

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<v Speaker 1>Good?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I've got it. I've got it, bra. What's the

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<v Speaker 2>only animal with four knee caps? With four knee cabs? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>four knee cabs.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it also can't jump. It could be the

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<v Speaker 1>same fact I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the only animal with four knee caps an elephant?

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<v Speaker 2>Damn it? Wow, I really am You know. I was

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<v Speaker 2>super into biology as a kid. Like with fourneecaps, jumping

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<v Speaker 2>is in about biology? Yeah? Animals is biology?

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<v Speaker 1>Brou you learn about an elephants neecaps in biology at school?

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to have been a biology at university. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So you learned about elephants at university, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>went on to work at the hearing company, okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I.

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<v Speaker 2>Became a jewelry designer and now I talk about fucking

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<v Speaker 2>sex and missionary for a living. Yeah, that is so

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<v Speaker 2>only missionary though, I don't talk about the other sex

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<v Speaker 2>only She she.

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<v Speaker 1>Just had to show us her sex position, favorite sex

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<v Speaker 1>position was, which is the loadus?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we? Okay? The reason why Keisha had to show

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<v Speaker 2>us her favorite sex position, which was the loadus, is

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<v Speaker 2>because we did this interview with Matthew Hussey. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a great interview. We had to do it by riverside,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of like Zoom but for podcasts. We

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<v Speaker 2>did it on BRIT's computer and I took a photo

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<v Speaker 2>of the screen, and it was only after take a

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<v Speaker 2>photo of Matthew. And it was only after taking a

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<v Speaker 2>photo of the screen that I realized not only did

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<v Speaker 2>Britt have a tab open, it was bookmarked as like

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<v Speaker 2>a saved important website Butterfly sex positions, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>like the main bookedmark website that Britt has on her chrome.

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<v Speaker 2>Explain yourself, Well, I would.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like to know what the problem is, She said,

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<v Speaker 1>my sex position, it's not like I'm having much sex.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, I'm going I'm going to see them very shortly.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to know exactly how to do this one.

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<v Speaker 1>It was definitely podcast material for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Live show live show research.

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<v Speaker 1>Would have been live show research. And I to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not that great with technology. I don't think they

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<v Speaker 1>even know how to bookmark something well. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>it's been there since last September.

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<v Speaker 2>Because now I don't know how to get written. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you just exit out. But Ben will love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Ben'll love that. He thinks I'm here researching sex positions?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you can you tell us how the butterfly sex

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<v Speaker 2>position goes after you try it with Ben? Well, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing it. I no, you only right. You

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<v Speaker 2>only have one hundred and eighty degree movement from one

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<v Speaker 2>side to the back to the other. My range of motion,

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<v Speaker 2>my range of movement is limited. That's what happens in

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<v Speaker 2>old age guys. Okay, I will let you know how

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<v Speaker 2>the butterfly sex position goes. Thank you film it, send

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<v Speaker 2>it only fans. Okay, fine, La, maybe do it? No

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<v Speaker 2>sign up now? Well, one thing we didn't talk about

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<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday's episode because you know, we kind of got

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<v Speaker 2>lost and talked about everything and then you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a very deep episode, but also we covered up

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of some strange mix of things at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we do do that. We did just get

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<v Speaker 1>into elephant territory.

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<v Speaker 2>But one thing I wanted to bring up that you

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<v Speaker 2>were working on. If you followed BRIT's Instagram over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>she was in the Gold Coast or Brisbane, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of people were confused as to why

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<v Speaker 2>you were in a wedding dress, crying with a bottle

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<v Speaker 2>of wine and marrying Mitch Churi And I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>people need to know what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, So if you form my Instagram, you'll see

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<v Speaker 1>that I was in a wedding dress, drunk, crying straw

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<v Speaker 1>on my Instagram on the weekend with Mitch.

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<v Speaker 2>It may come as no surprise that Britt did not

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<v Speaker 2>marry Mitch. It may come a surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch and I were filming a TV pilot, a rom com,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't I'll tell you about that in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>But so many people I shouldn't say so many.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a handful of people that had message saying

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so confused.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you had a boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Mitch was gay, like people that thought that

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<v Speaker 1>we were getting married, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, how did you miss? How did you actually

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<v Speaker 2>think I just got married? Do you think that I'm crying?

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<v Speaker 2>This is much of a scar? Like is this an

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<v Speaker 2>arranged marriage? They've been forced into? Like I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to marry Mitch, but like all my options are gone

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<v Speaker 2>now and here we are just doing it. Like what

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<v Speaker 2>about that photo shoot? Did anybody think that it could

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<v Speaker 2>possibly be real? That one person? Yeah, that got confused.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the funniest part for sure, but no, so

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just quickly, Yeah, we're filming a TV pilot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a I guess it's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit Hangovery vibes that vibe but romcom but very modern

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<v Speaker 1>day Mitch. A lot of people don't know Mitch is

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<v Speaker 1>an actor. Mitch went to acting school in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>well before radio.

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<v Speaker 2>He also can sing operatic and see like here the

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<v Speaker 2>guy is like a full triple threat.

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<v Speaker 1>He's multi talented. Probably can't tap dance, but would give

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<v Speaker 1>it a try. I reckon you he probably could, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's done that. He did the all through his twenties

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just saying before, well before the Bachelor,

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<v Speaker 1>well before the podcast, I was at acting school all

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<v Speaker 1>around the world, over in Scotland, Nia, here in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Screen Wise, we both did a lot, but we just

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<v Speaker 1>fell into different industries. We never really did anything with it,

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<v Speaker 1>but we always had this passion for wanting to entertain

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<v Speaker 1>and there's something amazing about being on a set and

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<v Speaker 1>being someone different.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if that was escaped.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I don't know if that was like a trauma reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm trying to run away from my life.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I enrolled acting Score off the back of my horrid

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<v Speaker 1>breakup with the sociopath, and it really was. Someone had

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<v Speaker 1>suggested it, someone had said, give it a go, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an outlet, and it was and I absolutely fell in

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<v Speaker 1>love with it. So then Mitch and I met a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago, obviously, and we just get along

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<v Speaker 1>like a house on fire. He's one of the funniest

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<v Speaker 1>people I've ever met, and we've yeah, we've gotten to

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<v Speaker 1>a position where we're creating something that we were having

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun doing. We think it's great, We're

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<v Speaker 1>having an amazing time and we have high hopes it's

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<v Speaker 1>a pilot. So the idea of a pilot is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's pilot season in different countries around the world where

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<v Speaker 1>people literally take these ideas and they pitch it. Every

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<v Speaker 1>show you've ever seen, Friends, the bigges shows in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>they all have a pilot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's Chantene do it. They do pilot

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<v Speaker 2>Week in Australia or the free to air networks do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So like you create all like different production companies create

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<v Speaker 2>a pilot and then they will air that pilot on

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<v Speaker 2>pilot Week and a couple of them get picked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so Mitch and I we have so much

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<v Speaker 1>chemistry and we love each other and we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun in real life, so we felt like

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<v Speaker 1>it was perfect to take that onto the screen and

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<v Speaker 1>see if we can recreate it. So fingers we can

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<v Speaker 1>recreate it, and thing as cross it ends up somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I am super excited to see it. I cannot wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to get you know, a premiere screening

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<v Speaker 2>of the first episode. No, we have been talking about

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<v Speaker 2>this pilot for literally a year and a half. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you withhold this from me, I'll be so mad,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what's funny? And I used toel like this

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<v Speaker 2>with the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you were ever like this, But

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<v Speaker 1>when I do something, I don't actually want anyone I

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<v Speaker 1>know to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you like that?

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<v Speaker 1>So when I acted in the past or at the

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<v Speaker 1>start of the podcast, I didn't want anyone I know

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<v Speaker 1>to listen or anyone I know to watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want other people to. It's so weird. I

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<v Speaker 2>will never watch myself and be like, great, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>wait to show people. Never.

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<v Speaker 1>I will never, ever, ever, ever ever do that. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd probably make it to Hold. Probably if I made

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<v Speaker 1>it to Hollywood day, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Will probably make it. Do you know what? I'm making

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<v Speaker 2>it to Hollywood? Want anyone to watch my movies?

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<v Speaker 1>What I was going to say is no, because I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard a lot of people in Hollywood, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>actors will say they won't watch their own movie. I

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<v Speaker 1>reckon I would be that person. Even if I was

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest actor in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think i'd ever watch it. I hate looking

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<v Speaker 2>at myself on screen. It's so weird. I hate listening

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<v Speaker 2>to myself. Dude, do you ever listen to our podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Back?

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<v Speaker 2>I wish you did, of course I listened to the

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<v Speaker 2>episodes back.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes this sounds like a weit first, but sometimes like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll hear us and I'll laugh like it's not even us.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, these chicks are whack, That's what I'll think,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh, hang on, now that was me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I would definitely not be friends with them. But

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<v Speaker 2>moving right along, there's something I did want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about today.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a new word that I discovered, a dating terminology,

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<v Speaker 1>not a sex position. Not well, I don't even want

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<v Speaker 1>to put it in dating terminology because it's it's gross.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is. I mean, it is a new dating

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<v Speaker 2>terminology and it's something to be very wary of. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>look it's the term. I've read it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's come up online, it's come up on read, it's

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<v Speaker 1>come up on the news. It's not a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called chad fishing. Chad is in my first ever

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<v Speaker 1>person I kissed when I was eleven, his name was

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<v Speaker 1>chad fishing, as in the sport you do when you

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<v Speaker 1>catch fish, chad fishing.

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<v Speaker 2>Chad fishing not to be confused with catfishing. No similar

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<v Speaker 2>as a starting point, but very different. I know that

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<v Speaker 2>you well it's not actually that differ and it's catfishing.

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<v Speaker 1>On steroids, that's what it is. It is similar to

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<v Speaker 1>cat fishing, but it involves men from the in cell

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<v Speaker 1>I n CEO. Now, I actually didn't know what that

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<v Speaker 1>was either, involuntary celibate.

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<v Speaker 2>So now these are like people who it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like they like they would like to be having sex,

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<v Speaker 2>but no one's having sex with them, so they're whatever because,

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<v Speaker 2>like I guess, ultimately they are not as desirable, these

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<v Speaker 2>kind of in cell groups that exist. It's like generally

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<v Speaker 2>men that have come together who are very very misogynistic,

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<v Speaker 2>who hate on women because they feel like women have

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<v Speaker 2>withheld sex from them. Yeah, and it's like this angry

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<v Speaker 2>little peatrie dish of the most toxic masculinity that's ever existed.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're called in cels.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and maybe they're involuntarily celibate too because of the

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<v Speaker 1>way they treat people. Maybe it's their personality, it could

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<v Speaker 1>be their looks, it could be a whole lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>But they are not getting the sex they want. But

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<v Speaker 2>instead of them internalizing that and being like, Okay, well

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<v Speaker 2>what am I bringing to the table and how am

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<v Speaker 2>I not being? You know, necessarily somebody that a woman

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<v Speaker 2>would or a person wouldn't want to have sex with.

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<v Speaker 2>They internalize that as like, well, there's nothing wrong with me,

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<v Speaker 2>and women are fucked and they will only date hot

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<v Speaker 2>men and they only want to have sex with good

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<v Speaker 2>looking guys, and it's kind of creates this incredibly toxic

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<v Speaker 2>environment where they're not self reflective, they're blaming women, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's where the misogyny aspect of this comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So these in cell communities, because they are communities online,

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<v Speaker 1>they set up fake online dating profiles and they pose

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<v Speaker 1>as a chad. Now a chad is a conventionally attractive male,

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<v Speaker 1>very cliche sexy friend my experience, No, but they look

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<v Speaker 1>like a model, they look beautiful, very mainstream people, and

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<v Speaker 1>they set up these fake profiles off these chads in

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<v Speaker 1>order to pray on women.

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<v Speaker 2>That is it in a nutshell. But when we say

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<v Speaker 2>prey on women, I guess, like the thing that makes

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<v Speaker 2>this different from catfishing and makes chad fishing more insidious,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, not necessarily more insidious, but like it takes

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<v Speaker 2>it into the physical world is that these people the

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<v Speaker 2>whole purpose that they've intentionally set this up is because

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<v Speaker 2>they will organize dates. They will create and set a time,

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<v Speaker 2>set a place, and the female who's being led on

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<v Speaker 2>will rock up to this date and time. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>like these chadfishers get off on setting up dates and

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<v Speaker 2>then intentionally standing up a woman who they see as

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<v Speaker 2>being below them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's come to light now, It's resurfaced now because

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<v Speaker 1>this one Australian guy has written in a forum and

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<v Speaker 1>he's basically shared a step by step guide on how

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<v Speaker 1>he chadfishes women. So he pretty much is encouraging other

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<v Speaker 1>people to do this. He's written about how he did it,

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<v Speaker 1>what he did, He's put screenshots on it's super gross

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<v Speaker 1>and then there are so many other gross people commenting

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<v Speaker 1>on it seeing how funny it is. He loves to

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<v Speaker 1>share the screenshots of their reactions. He loves to humiliate them.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's not alone. And now this is the fucking

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<v Speaker 1>cooked thing. There are so many communities with people all

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<v Speaker 1>over the world that engage in this. These are some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things he wrote. My hobby is chadfishing hawes.

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<v Speaker 1>I arrange dates and stand them up at bars. It's

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<v Speaker 1>fun to deflate their ego and make them waste money

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<v Speaker 1>on ubers. Fuel and parking. And the way he does

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<v Speaker 1>it is he explained that he sets up a fake

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<v Speaker 1>Tinder account by stealing photos he actually stole. I just

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<v Speaker 1>showed Laura bilties. He was quite good looking, look like

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<v Speaker 1>a little farmer. But he stole quite a well known

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<v Speaker 1>American social media guy, Brett Maverick's account. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>that this is going to the next level is because

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys are online dating, you'll know that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to verify your photo, which is amazing because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying this really is this person?

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<v Speaker 2>I really am me, I'm not a fake. His profile

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<v Speaker 2>was verified. Yeah, he's gone to the additional lengths of

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<v Speaker 2>not only just creating a fake profile, but going through

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<v Speaker 2>the processes of tricking basically the AI system into thinking

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<v Speaker 2>that the photo that he's provided is real. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you know this, but like, if you need

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<v Speaker 2>to verify your profile, Facebook's or instagram sends you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like an action that you need to do, so

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<v Speaker 2>you need to send them back a photo with your

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<v Speaker 2>arms in a certain position to prove that it's you,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, if it's not you, how are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to send a picture with your face and your

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<v Speaker 2>arms in a certain way. So what he did is

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<v Speaker 2>he got the photo of the guy, he then photoshopped

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<v Speaker 2>the arms in a certain way, and then took a

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<v Speaker 2>photo of the screen so that way that the photo

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<v Speaker 2>that he was submitting for verification didn't have any of

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<v Speaker 2>the metadata that would have been captured if it was

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<v Speaker 2>a photoshopped image. So he really went entirely out of

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<v Speaker 2>his way to try and deceive not only the women,

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<v Speaker 2>but also deceive Facebook and Instagram to get his profile verified.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the screenshots I want to show you.

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<v Speaker 1>Back and forth setting up a date with the girl.

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<v Speaker 1>He's posted the girl's photo, she's twenty seven, back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth about meeting up for a date. They organized where

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<v Speaker 1>they're going, sounds great, see there, And then there's messages

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<v Speaker 1>when they're on their way, just so you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>leaving soon, you know, just to it's like that almost confirmation,

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<v Speaker 1>like you've set your date up, you're on the way

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<v Speaker 1>to bi like, hey, I'm leaving soon. Hey I'm heading

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<v Speaker 1>out to Then some time goes past and she's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>at the bar. How far away are you? I'm here,

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<v Speaker 1>where are you? And then he says, oh, I left,

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<v Speaker 1>Like so he makes her wait half an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>then he says I left, and she's she's like, huh

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<v Speaker 1>he goesh I met another chain instead, She's like, what,

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<v Speaker 1>you're so rude? He it's not my problem.

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<v Speaker 2>The purpose of this is to make women feel as

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<v Speaker 2>bad as they possibly could feel.

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<v Speaker 1>They make them wait at a restaurant alone, which is

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<v Speaker 1>always awkward when that moment where you're like everyone's looking

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<v Speaker 1>at me, like I'm on my own?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they going to come?

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<v Speaker 1>Then they want to embarrass them and make them feel

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<v Speaker 1>ashit as they can, like I've gone home with someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of these texts go on to literally the guy

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<v Speaker 1>has then gotten a photo of a woman. There's one

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw where there is a woman bent over.

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<v Speaker 1>He's obviously taken as off her behind as of a butt.

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<v Speaker 1>He's obviously just taking it from the internet or who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it is his.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, na. I mean, the whole thing is

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<v Speaker 2>that he's unintentionally celibate.

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<v Speaker 1>He ain't getting a butt, that's true, it's from porn

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<v Speaker 1>half or something. But he sends this photo. He'll literally

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<v Speaker 1>say the women are like where are you? And he

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<v Speaker 1>sends the photo back and say I met someone hotter.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gone home to tap it kind of thing. Like

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<v Speaker 1>the dumb thing is is like that would not make

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<v Speaker 1>me feel it. I would be like, you are a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking loser if some dude send me that. Whereas the

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<v Speaker 1>other ones that I saw, which were like I walked in,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you sitting there and thought you were ugly,

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<v Speaker 1>so I walked out Like that is so much crueler

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<v Speaker 1>those ones. I mean, there's been there's so many versions

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<v Speaker 1>of what these chadfishers do. And I guess the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why we want to talk about it was because we

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<v Speaker 1>were like, never in my mind did it occur to

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<v Speaker 1>me that somebody would intentionally go out of their way

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<v Speaker 1>to try and set up a fake day to stand

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<v Speaker 1>someone up, to intentionally hurt them purely because they hate women.

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<v Speaker 2>And these people actually exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but it's not just the hurting. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>thing they go to the extent of saying, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where do you live in a city?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just going to do Sydney because I know it.

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<v Speaker 1>They say where do you live and they'll say I

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<v Speaker 1>live in BONDI where do you live? And they'll pretend

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<v Speaker 1>they live so far away, an hour away, So they'll say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we meet in the middle. Then they'll encourage

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<v Speaker 1>them to I can't wait to have a drink with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have wine. They'll encourage them to get the uber

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<v Speaker 1>because they want them to spend one hundred dollars on

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<v Speaker 1>an uber to waste their money, because that's part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>They then go on and say, haha, she spend one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars on an uber as well. Then I saw

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<v Speaker 1>her up. Then I embarrassed her. It's crazy to me

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<v Speaker 1>that it's happening, and it's scary now that it's verified.

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<v Speaker 1>So that used to be what you could look at

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<v Speaker 1>on a dating profile. So oh, I feel relatively safe,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know, like produced Kisher and I when I

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<v Speaker 1>was single last year, we used to always, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>show each other who were talking to or who were dating.

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<v Speaker 1>We used to constantly have these conversations and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>this one particular one that stands out in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>It was me that was talking to this person and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, he's not real, he's not real. Case She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>yess he is, look at him and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you he is not real. And turns out

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't we ended up calling him out saying, send

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<v Speaker 1>us an actual photo.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he wouldn't give us any Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess I want to say a few things

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<v Speaker 1>that I have worked out because I've been on online

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<v Speaker 1>dating for like ten years and I've had friends that

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<v Speaker 1>have been severely catfished. I luckily have not, But I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell some things now to look out for. One

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<v Speaker 1>of them is it's a big sign. It's not the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the world. But if someone doesn't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Give you their Instagram or share their Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Or they haven't linked it and you've been talking for

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<v Speaker 1>a little while, or they say they don't have one,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty rare these days to be in our generation

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<v Speaker 1>and our age, not even our generation even like our

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<v Speaker 1>parents and things have Instagram and stuff. Now, if someone's

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<v Speaker 1>really weirdly hiding their Instagram or it's not linked, it

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<v Speaker 1>can be a red flag. Another thing is if their

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<v Speaker 1>photos look like they've been cropped in a weird way.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe they look like they've been cropped in or

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a lot of headroom, or that's a really

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<v Speaker 1>big sign that the photo has been stolen. The reason

0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:20.520
<v Speaker 1>they do it, the reason they crop these photos and

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<v Speaker 1>We did speak about this on the Catfishing episode with Neve.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason people crop a photo is because you can't

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<v Speaker 1>reverse image search a photo when the dimensions have been changed,

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<v Speaker 1>so they'll steal photos. They change, they resize them and

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<v Speaker 1>change them and then they upload them.

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<v Speaker 2>I realize that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I think, like, just get someone to send a verification.

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<v Speaker 2>Be like, hey, in the next ten minutes, you need

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<v Speaker 2>to send me a photo of you with your middle

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<v Speaker 2>finger pointed up to the sky. If they're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to send you their Instagram and you're going to pay

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred bucks for an uber somewhere, you need to

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<v Speaker 2>get proof of life. Baby, you get that finger photo.

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<v Speaker 2>You get that finger photo. But I also think, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>for me, the reason why I thought this was so

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<v Speaker 2>interesting is because for anybody out there who's ever stood up.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying that every single person is a

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<v Speaker 2>Chadfisher who's been stood up, but like, isn't it nice

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of reflect and go, you know what, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not me, it's you. There's a very good chance that

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<v Speaker 2>if somebody walked into a bar and mean, unless you're

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<v Speaker 2>a dating profile, is completely not photos of you and

0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.800
<v Speaker 2>you look one hundred percent different. It's very unlikely that

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<v Speaker 2>somebody has shown up for a date and turned around

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<v Speaker 2>and said, you know, oh you're not hot enough, and

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<v Speaker 2>then sent a message like most people are not that cruel,

0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:29.840
<v Speaker 2>and people who are that cruel usually have a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other issues that are going along with them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that that's a reflection of the person

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<v Speaker 2>who is on the other end of it, not the

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<v Speaker 2>person who's been stood up. And sometimes we can take

0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:41.439
<v Speaker 2>that as like we're not good enough. We carry that

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<v Speaker 2>as though it's an insult that we should feel ashamed

0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:47.080
<v Speaker 2>or embarrassed about, but it truly is the person who

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<v Speaker 2>does the standing up.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this day and age, your safety is paramount

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<v Speaker 1>because there's so much shit out there. Don't be embarrassed

0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.199
<v Speaker 1>to ask for a proof of who somebody is. A

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<v Speaker 1>FaceTime before I met Ben, we facetimed I was not

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<v Speaker 1>to go and meet some ritten guy. We literally jumped

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone and had to chat. What you said, Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>send me a photo right now?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you doing it?

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<v Speaker 1>Verify someone if you're gonna go somewhere and meet someone,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna go for one night stand, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do anything. It doesn't hurt to send one photo.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're that interested and they're real, they're gonna send

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<v Speaker 1>the photo back. They probably want to know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>real too.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally. And I think if anybody ever is like no,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't, or there's excuses, or they're not able, and

0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.120
<v Speaker 2>what you're asking for is a really reasonable request, it's

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<v Speaker 2>an insult, then he's a fucking insout, like yes, or

0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.919
<v Speaker 2>he's or there's someone who is lying to you, or

0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:31.560
<v Speaker 2>they're in a relationship, or there's a reason.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes we can get caught up in the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>like how hot you know their profile is, and you've

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<v Speaker 2>gotten already imagined like a little date and what your

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<v Speaker 2>life's going to be like, but you just got married

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<v Speaker 2>in your hand. Yeah, don't get caught up in like

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<v Speaker 2>the potential of somebody's dating profile if they're not proving

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<v Speaker 2>to you kind of that they're real. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>so important totally. One of the reasons why we wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to speak about this is because, I mean, we've been

0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:53.439
<v Speaker 2>seeing it more and more in the media, but we

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<v Speaker 2>also have had so many of our life as over

0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:58.760
<v Speaker 2>the years rid in about being stood up and one

0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:01.400
<v Speaker 2>of them recently. One of our life is. Her name's Jacinta.

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<v Speaker 2>She sent this into us.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, so here I am.

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<v Speaker 5>I was meant to be meeting this guy for a

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<v Speaker 5>date at six point thirty at this restaurant and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>here currently it's raining and guess.

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<v Speaker 4>What, the restaurant's closed. And interestingly, he seemed super keen.

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<v Speaker 4>But then he deleted his profile last night and I

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't quite sure. I thought, look, I'll still turn up

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<v Speaker 4>because he seemed really keen.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought that at thirty seven that this stuff

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<v Speaker 3>will be done, but apparently not. I'm more annoyed because

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<v Speaker 3>I got my lip and eyebrows waxed. That was probably

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:57.439
<v Speaker 3>the most irritating thing. Anyway, I'm going to head home

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<v Speaker 3>and married at first sight.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were somebody who has experienced something similar, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're somebody who has been stood up on a date,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I would love we slide into the DMS.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us like your version of a story of what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>because I do think that it's something that happens pretty frequently,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that there is a level of embarrassment

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<v Speaker 2>around it, and people don't want to share those stories

0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:24.000
<v Speaker 2>because they think well, it's a reflection that they're not

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<v Speaker 2>good enough. Have you ever been stood up on a date?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually haven't. No, I have been stood at once, really,

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:32.560
<v Speaker 2>and we all know it wasn't me, it was him, honestly, No,

0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 2>but I did. I got stood up. I gotoo up

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<v Speaker 2>at a bar. I waited at a bar for an

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<v Speaker 2>online day pass. Yeah, just didn't reply, just completely fucking

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:40.919
<v Speaker 2>ghosted me. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think he turned up changed his mind or

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<v Speaker 1>do you think he was a chad fish? Or do

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<v Speaker 1>you think what do you think it was?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, potentially I could sit here and try and

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<v Speaker 2>question maybe he thought I wasn't hot enough when he

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<v Speaker 2>got there. That could happened, But who fucking knows, never

0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 2>heard from him again, knows Like, yeah, I was at

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember the bucket list in BONDI yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I waited. It was there like a month ago. No,

0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 2>it's shut down years ago. I just redid it, Okay,

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 2>So I got to the bucket list on like a

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday afternoon. Also gave him my prime real estate of

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.399
<v Speaker 2>my weekend time, which was so annoying. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>three o'clock I got there. He was like, I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>my way, I ordered a drink, I sat down, and

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 2>then nothing just he was he was on his way. Yeah,

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 2>we were texting up until and then he I don't

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:22.399
<v Speaker 2>think he was ever coming. I think it was a

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:25.399
<v Speaker 2>fake Chadfish. I think I was Chadfish. My god, you

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 2>started the chatfish. You didn't even know it. You're a pioneer,

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<v Speaker 2>and I I remember being really upset at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was in my kind of like what I

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 2>would have been like twenty nine. I think I was,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't think from memory that I thought he came.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Oh, this was just this was just

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 2>a guy being an asshole. Totally.

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<v Speaker 1>I have had last minute cancelations where this is like

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 1>this is different, but you just made me think about it.

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 1>When you're like, I gave you my prime time.

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<v Speaker 2>The fucking effort that a girl goes to for a date,

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<v Speaker 2>oh and a so much more than a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>The hair, the makeup, the thinking of the outfit, the

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about the date, the location, the clearing the schedule,

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the shaving, the waxing, the mona.

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<v Speaker 2>Brow of the lip. This is why I think men

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 2>should pay for the first date, purely because of the

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 2>amount of time and energy we have to go to

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 2>to get to that first date. They don't need to

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 2>They just have to put a shirt on and some

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 2>shorts and rock up.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wasn't upset that the date canceled right, like whatever,

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:19.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't know him. I was like, well, what am

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I going to do now? I can't waste this face

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:23.640
<v Speaker 1>of makeup. I don't waste his hair, Like, I need

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 1>to go do something now.

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 2>You were fully dressed and ready to walk out the

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>door and they canceled out. Yeah, I would have been.

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.439
<v Speaker 1>About half an hour before I reckon, And I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, fuck you because of the time.

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Not because I liked you that much, but like, there's

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 2>took time. Yeah, I feel like so many people would

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 2>relate to that totally. All right, Well, before we get

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 2>into answering your questions, it is time for vibes. But

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.439
<v Speaker 2>no subscribes because I don't think I'm subscribed. Yeah, no,

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 2>unsubscribed because I don't think either of us have one again.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, I'm gonna kick it off. I am recommending

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 2>this week. It is basic as it is, the most

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:58.639
<v Speaker 2>brain numbing nothing, but it's gonna fill you with so

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:01.879
<v Speaker 2>much joy. Go watch season four of Lover Is Blind.

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I do love Love. You got me onto it because

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:06.360
<v Speaker 2>I had never really watched the season before and now

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:09.160
<v Speaker 2>I am fucking so hooked and they just like dump

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 2>enough to like get you addicted and then you have

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 2>to wait. It's very good.

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I still feel like the first season was the best. No,

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:17.239
<v Speaker 1>you have watched the season f I haven't watched this

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 1>for but the first season was so good because it

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>was new. I felt like they were real. I felt like,

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like it's like maps. The first

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:24.719
<v Speaker 1>season is so good, the Bachelor so good. But then

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 1>it changes over the years because people want it for

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>a different things.

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Keisha described it as the sugar in her veins that

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<v Speaker 2>she's no longer getting from her diet. So I feel

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:34.439
<v Speaker 2>like that that is Jeffy diet. That is the best

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:37.959
<v Speaker 2>review for absolute trash TV that they could be. It's

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 2>on Netflix. Go and watch it. Love Is Blind season four.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well mine this week my vibe is a book.

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 2>It is Jay Shehtty's new book, Eight Rules of Love.

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 2>If you've been following me on Instagram, I've been taking

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 2>his book with them everywhere, to the beach, to the sauna.

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I read a lot in the sauna actually, but it

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.919
<v Speaker 2>gets all sweaty. Yeah, I know, but it's like my

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 2>only time that I sit down and I'm like, what

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 2>are the eight rules of love?

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Britt? Well, then you wouldn't want to read the book

0:26:57.240 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 1>if I told.

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<v Speaker 2>You, just give me two of them, hook me in

0:26:59.440 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>one of the ones.

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<v Speaker 1>I love is just really about figuring out what you want,

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:05.439
<v Speaker 1>what are your preferences, so you don't go and waste

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 1>your time on somebody that's not in alignment with you

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>or that might not be good for you.

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 2>Because I feel like a lot of us do that.

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:13.440
<v Speaker 1>We try and sit in something in the hopes that

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>it might turn into something that we hope it would be.

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's take it at face value. If it's not

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:18.479
<v Speaker 1>in align with you, it's not what you want, it's

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:19.239
<v Speaker 1>not what you're looking for.

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 2>But you still try. But sometimes sometimes you get distracted

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 2>by nice abs. Oh my god, heaps of shit. You

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 2>get distracted.

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Ye, But it's like I on the prize team, put

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>your blinders on, like the horse racing, look straight ahead,

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 1>don't look out, and keep focused.

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I love Jay Shetty. I love the book. So that

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 1>is my vibe of this week, all right, let's get

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>in to question number one. I've got one that I

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>have some mixed feelings about. Actually, I just have some

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 1>bad feelings about it. Here.

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 2>It is my best friend is about to have her

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 2>first child. I am very much child free by choice,

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 2>and she knows this. I think she's being a bit

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 2>naive saying that nothing will change when the baby comes.

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.359
<v Speaker 2>When we do organize drinks or lunch or hang out.

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 2>How can I ask her not to bring the kid.

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I understand sometimes she might have to, but is there

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.919
<v Speaker 2>any nice way to check in and ask if it

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 2>will be just the two of us. I especially don't

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 2>want her to bring it to my house. It's not

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 2>a dog to bring it to my house. Is this

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 2>the end of our close friendship? Probably? Yeah, it's a newborn.

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a baby. You guys aren't going to the movies

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 2>on your own. You guys are not going out and

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 2>getting a little city. This is a new one baby

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 2>that literally needs it's mom's didty to survive. Okay. The

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 2>reason why I have conflicting feelings about this is because

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, look, yes, your friend is being naive to

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 2>think that nothing will change. If she thinks that your

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 2>friendship is going to be exactly the same and nothing

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 2>is going to change, and you guys are still going

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 2>to be doing margaritas on Tuesday night. Then she is naive.

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 2>But when she says nothing is going to change, I

0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 2>don't think that that's what she means. I don't think

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 2>she thinks that she's only going to see you baby free.

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 2>I actually think that you've interpreted that the wrong way,

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 2>because you're gonna have to see your friend and she's

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.959
<v Speaker 2>gonna bring this baby. Because when you have a newborn baby,

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 2>it's almost impossible to not have them with you for

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 2>those first x amount of months and weeks and whatever.

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 2>I think, on one hand, like obviously we've had we've

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 2>done interviews on it, we've spoken about loads. It is

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 2>so fine to be child free. It is so fine

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 2>to not like kids. It's so fine to not want

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 2>them in your life. But if the people that you

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 2>love around you have children, then there has to be

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 2>some level of acceptance and some level of compromise if

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 2>you want to maintain that friendship, because this baby is

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 2>going to be a fucking huge part of her life,

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think that she's going to be able

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 2>to have her friendship with you and have her child

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 2>completely separate, because if you love her and you accept

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 2>her as your friend and you want her in your

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 2>life as well, you're going to have to make some

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 2>allowances that make her feel like you also kind of

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 2>like her kid.

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, things do change when your friends have babies. And

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I say this because I obviously don't have children, but

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I probably have only maybe two friends that don't have children,

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>like everyone in my life has kids. You make adaptations,

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 1>like you change things, You make exceptions. You don't go

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>out and get drunk anymore. You meet for coffee and

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 1>lunch and the baby comes, the baby's going to interrupt

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 1>your conversation. Things are going to have to be canceled.

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have to go home early. These are just

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>all a part of life. And if you're saying, how

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>do you approach the fact that you want to hang

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>out with your friend child free, the friendship's not gonna last,

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Like your friend will be wildly offended if you say

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hang out with your child free

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>when they've just had a baby, a their hormone through

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the roof.

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to put myself in their shoes here, because

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I said that to you. I

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 2>have friends who are child free, right, I have friends

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:46.959
<v Speaker 2>who want to be child free.

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Fu.

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it actually makes me feel if I knew

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>that they never wanted my children at their house because

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 2>they didn't like my kids at all. And I mean,

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 2>I know that some kids are harder than others. I it,

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 2>and I get that not everyone likes everyone's kids. But

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 2>if I felt like my best friend did not like

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 2>my children, didn't want them to be around, and never

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 2>wanted them to be at their house ever, a part

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 2>of me would feel so deeply offended. A part of

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 2>me would be like, wow, like how do you why

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 2>do you hate my kids? And what are you also

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna do?

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Like you're gonna be so so just asking, but like,

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>is Rosie going to be coming with you today?

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Rosi is two weeks old. She will be coming

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 2>with me. Are you gonna pay for half the babysitter?

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Like if she has to leave the kid at home

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 2>every time you hang out, does that mean that you're

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna help pay for the babysitting of this child.

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit ignorant and a little bit naive

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>to have that expectation, then that will be a thing

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>in your friendship. It's something that you do have to

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 1>accept that life does change when people have kids. Whether

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>you want to accept that or not, it is life.

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>And I have had friends in the exact same position.

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I have had friends that have said to me like,

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 1>absolutely nothing is going to change, like nothing, I am

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be one of those mums where like I

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>don't work around my baby. May baby works around me,

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>and they're the first people to be like, we're I

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>had no idea, Like that is not how it works.

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I will do anything to work around my baby. Said

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>it at sleeps so today. So it's you know, living

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>a healthy, stable life and.

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:10.959
<v Speaker 2>Just to make your life easier because it's so fucking

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 2>hard in the first few months. Actually it's still hard

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 2>and I'm three and a half years in.

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>If anything, you need to maybe step up a notch.

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you need to go visit her, take her a coffee,

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>take your friends some lunch, because she's probably gonna be

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>run off her feet and not want to leave the

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>house for a little while.

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean this is not to say that you're not

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna have kid free time with your friends like in

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 2>four years, like of course, you're gonna have time, and

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have a relationship where you're able to still

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 2>see your friends and have time without kids around. But

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 2>I think that if you are expecting that your friendship

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 2>will only be able to stay as strong if it's

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 2>on the conditions that she shows up in that friendship

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 2>child free, I think that is like the friendship is

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 2>not gonna work out. It's you're not gonna stay as close,

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 2>and unfortunately, your friendships are not going to weather the

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 2>seasons of life if they come with that caveat. Because

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people have children, and a lot of

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 2>people also want to be around their kids. You know,

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 2>they want to be able to have friendships where they

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 2>can share that with their children and also have independent

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 2>adult relationships and friendships where they can go out for

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 2>drinks with their friends. You need to be able to

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 2>do both. I think we've answered that one. It's silly,

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like it's the person who's written I

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 2>feel like the person who's written in the question is

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 2>more the problem here. Is that a mean thing to say?

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>No, I agree with you, but benefit of the doubt.

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe this person hasn't had a friend or someone close

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 1>in their life that has had a kid before, because

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the way they've written question makes me think that they

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>haven't been exposed to children to a large level, because it's.

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>A strange question to us. I especially don't want her

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 2>bringing it to my house. What do you think it's

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 2>gonna do. It's not a dog, it's not gonna rip

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 2>your like like, it's a baby in a carrier that's

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 2>probably gonna be asleep. It's in a sleep, yeah, Or

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 2>on the titty. Let's not gonna do a lot. I

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 2>understand if my friends don't want me to bring my

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 2>three year old to their house for them to like.

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Or on the walls Marley's Wild. Yeah, she'll give you

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 2>an indoor collage or a little masterpiece on wall down one. Yeah,

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean anyway, all right?

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Question number two, Okay, this one I also have strong

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>opinions about. I've just found out that my mum cheated

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.320
<v Speaker 1>on my dad when I was a teenager. They divorced

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 1>five years ago, when I was twenty one and already

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>living out of home. I was already a bit of

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>a daddy's girl. He's not your average blokey bloke, and

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>we were always really close. When I was growing up,

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>my mom was a bit more of the disciplinarian type

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 1>and just not as warm in general. I found out

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.360
<v Speaker 1>about her affair from my brother, who.

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Is closer with my mum. My question is, now that

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 2>I know about this, should I tell my dad. He

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 2>has a new.

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Partner and he seems to be really happy, and I

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.479
<v Speaker 1>do know that this would really crush him. I'm also

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 1>super angry that I have to know this information. I

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:47.280
<v Speaker 1>would have much rather that my mom and my brother

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I kept this shitty bit of info to themselves.

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 2>This is wild. Where do we start? Because I'm okay,

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to start at the end. No, don't tell

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 2>your dad, Like, absolutely, I'm gonna start at the end.

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 2>Week go way back. There is absolutely nothing. There is

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 2>nothing good that will come out of you telling your dad.

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it is so unfortunate that you know this information.

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 2>No one take it to the grave. No one ever

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 2>wants to know this shit about their parents. It's so

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 2>unfair because your parents don't even have sex, illy, like,

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 2>how dare she have an affairs? I mean? And also

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 2>you don't know whether or not your dad knows. Like

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 2>your dad may know about the exactly right, you know,

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:31.839
<v Speaker 2>he may know, he may be suspicious, but he may

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 2>not have had those conversations with you, because ultimately you're

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.919
<v Speaker 2>the child, and even though you're so close with your dad,

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 2>there is still a parent child dynamic there. I myself,

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:45.800
<v Speaker 2>if this was me, I don't think that anything good

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:47.719
<v Speaker 2>can come from talking to your dad about this. All

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 2>that's going to do is strain that relationship more. It's

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:53.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna make him potentially quite upset, and for what purpose.

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.399
<v Speaker 2>He's not with your mum anymore, they don't have a relationship.

0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like you're just wanting to tell him because

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 2>you're mad and you want to get that off your chest.

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 2>So therefore you want to pass that information that burden

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 2>onto him as well, so that you can both be

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:10.240
<v Speaker 2>mutually mad together. Take it to the grave. If you're angry,

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 2>go talk to your mum about it. But why the fud?

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 2>You have an a fair like, how'd you do that

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 2>to dad? Tell who was he? Have that conversation then?

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:19.760
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think you need to ruin.

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Your dad's happiness for what to live in the past, Like,

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>just so you know, Dad, a long time ago, when

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 1>you were together, Mom had an affair. How do you

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>feel now like he's moved on and he's happy. It

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 1>might be different if, and I say might, if your

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:36.839
<v Speaker 1>dad was like, I really want to make it work

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:38.439
<v Speaker 1>with your mom. I'm going to try and win it over.

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>And you know your mum had been out there doing

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>the horizontal dance a love every Friday night. You might

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>be like, well looked at it.

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Then with Spen, that's different. But I think let him live,

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:49.959
<v Speaker 2>let him be happy. He's in a new relationship.

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 1>You definitely are angry that your brother has put this

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 1>weight on your shoulders because now you feel like you

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>have a responsibility. You feel like you're close to your dad.

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 1>You feel like you're keeping sick if it's which you are.

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 1>But occasionally I do believe it's better to keep a secret.

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I agree. I think sometimes we talk too much

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 2>about like keeping a secret is so naughty. No, sometimes

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:14.839
<v Speaker 2>keeping a secret is better for everybody. Yeah, it's called

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 2>a white lie. I mean it's probably a bit further

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 2>than a white live is fun. I feel like a

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 2>white lies, like you know, lying about how many ice

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 2>creams you've had, like you don't know where the leftovers went.

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I think, if you really need to have a conversation

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 2>about this, Like, if you need to get this out

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:34.879
<v Speaker 2>of your system, the person to talk to is your

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 2>brother and then potentially your mum. But also like I

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 2>don't even think i'd talk to my mum about it.

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I just feel like, fuck, people do stupid stuff, and.

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>I also wouldn't either because I don't want to know

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:46.319
<v Speaker 1>about my parents doing that kind of stuff. Like I'm

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 1>lucky my parents are happily married forty five or six

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 1>years and they definitely still have sex, Like I know that,

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>but I'm happy for them to have sex because it

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<v Speaker 1>means they're in a whole relationship.

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:55.879
<v Speaker 2>But I don't want to do you reckon. They still

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 2>have sex, absolutely.

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:02.879
<v Speaker 1>Not not all the whole. Yeah, I totally know when

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:04.280
<v Speaker 1>they've done it too, because like.

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 2>They're glowing well in the morning, Like if I'm up visiting,

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 2>they're all like cutesies and they be cutesies and Mom's like, Tony,

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:12.840
<v Speaker 2>don't do that, haha, and it's all cute.

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, I actually love it, you know, because

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>i'd rehother that. I'd rather know that they're happy. But

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, it's not like they get it off. I

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:21.840
<v Speaker 1>come from the complete opposite end of the spectrum. Like

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 1>my parents got divorced when I was three and a half.

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Like part of me is like, maybe someone did you.

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, I'm speculating, but like, but

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 2>if I found out that somebody cheated like that, if

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 2>my mum cheated or my dad, or my dad cheated

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 2>on my mom, I would not be touching that with

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 2>a ten foot pole. I would be about it. Do

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what? You fucked it up. You guys are

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 2>clearly not together. It was a terrible match. It worked

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 2>out the way it worked out, and everyone's happier for it.

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Let's just let it be in the past.

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Isn't it funny because I'm not talking about affairs, just

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about sex. I think in twenty years, right, in

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty years, do you think you'll be having sex with

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Matt You guys will be fifth that's not.

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Old, ye young. You will still be having sex.

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Your daughters are going to be in their twenties. Been like, ill,

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>mom and dad don't have sex. That's disgusting, But it's not.

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 1>You're just a normal person. You're a normal adult.

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 2>We always think that it's like they're so our parents

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 2>are so old and like so old.

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:17.359
<v Speaker 1>But they're not like guys most of you listening. If

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 1>your parents are here, they're probably getting jiggy with it.

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 2>Even if it's not with your dad, it's probably with

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 2>someone a milkman. All right, Question number three, This one

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 2>is a fucking doozy. Oh, it's a doozy. Although, like,

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm still not even sure how I would answer this.

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 2>So this is for you, Brett. I love that. That's

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:37.279
<v Speaker 2>why you've thrown it to me, so you can think

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:39.800
<v Speaker 2>about your answer. I was a bridesmaid at a wedding

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 2>over the weekend and I definitely drank too much and

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 2>have had quite a few blackout moments throughout the evening,

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 2>which is bad if you're a bridesmaid. However, I have

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:54.880
<v Speaker 2>been told I wasn't the only one at the after party,

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I found myself falling into bed. Just fell into bed

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 2>with the MC, which was the groom's brother and his girlfriend,

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 2>and we ended up having a threesome. Mena scandalous. I

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 2>like how when she said she blacked out and then

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 2>she fell into bed, I thought she meant she fell

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:12.720
<v Speaker 2>into bed and passed out, and she fell into a threesome.

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 2>She fell into the fell happiness vagina had fell into

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 2>the vagina? How did I get here? Somehow? A lot

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 2>of people seem to know about this, including the bride

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 2>and the groom, who were also at the after party

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 2>and hired the accommodation for the bridal party that we

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 2>had sex at. I handed it to you on a

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:38.840
<v Speaker 2>plot as a bridesmaid. Was this inappropriate? Yes? Do I

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 2>need to apologize to the bride and groom? Debatable? And

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:45.440
<v Speaker 2>I did ask the other bridesmaids and they told me

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 2>that it seemed like it was fine. But my question

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 2>is is it I don't necessarily regret the threesome, but

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.240
<v Speaker 2>I do regret it happening on the night of their wedding.

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I actually don't think there's anything wrong with this in

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>all honesty, unless you did it on the dance floor

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:05.320
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the wedding you were It sounds

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:08.399
<v Speaker 1>like your three consenting adults that had a great night

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and a wedding, went back to an after party, continued

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 1>to have a great night, and then had your own

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>after after party. Like I think, it's not like you cheated, right,

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not like he had a partner the MC and

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>you did the dirty and she didn't know about it.

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 2>You there were three adults who were like, let's have

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 2>some fun scandalous.

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think there's a problem with it, Okay,

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm the only reason why I'm like, maybe you should

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 1>bring it up with the bride. The only reasons, but

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the only reason I'm like, have a conversation clear the

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:38.720
<v Speaker 1>air might make you feel better is because she paid

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 1>for the accommodation for the bridal party, and were you

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 1>all supposed to be there?

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:49.359
<v Speaker 2>Fucking like, is that gonna No, I'm just thinking about

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 2>my own wedding and then going back because like maybe

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 2>she had an idea for what that was going to be,

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Like maybe she thought you were all going to hang

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 2>out and have drinks together, not that next door there

0:41:57.719 --> 0:41:59.240
<v Speaker 2>was going to be three of you having a threesome.

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Surely she it's funny, maybe, but some people don't. People

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:06.280
<v Speaker 2>get very hung up about how their wedding is supposed

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 2>to play out, do you know what I mean? And

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 2>maybe because you were blacking out during the night, maybe

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 2>you were inappropriately drunk. Maybe the drunkness was the thing

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 2>that you might need to approach with her, like that's

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 2>different because you had an important role to play. You

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 2>were a bridesmaid and were you Yeah, were you so

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.919
<v Speaker 2>sloppy that you were an embarrassment throughout the night? That's

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:27.759
<v Speaker 2>the conversation I think broach first, and then if she

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 2>was like, no, you're completely fine, then maybe the brocher.

0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Are you annoyed with me for fucking the MC and

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 2>his girlfriend?

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I completely agree if you were causing havoc at

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the wedding, like if you were just a pain in

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the ass because you were so inappropriately drunk, one hundred percent,

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>you need to have that conversation. Apologize because our wedding

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 1>is a very special day. You don't want to be

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 1>a loose cannon at the wedding. I think do what

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 1>you want afterwards. The only reason I can see that

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:59.760
<v Speaker 1>like she might have a problem with you guys getting

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 1>g is that maybe it's all anyone's talking about.

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Maybe no one's talking about your wedding. Maybe imagine that trumping,

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Like that's the thing everyone talks about after the amazing day,

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 2>that something you know, there was a threesome. Absolutely, although

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 2>would I I'm just trying to put myself in these shoes.

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Imagine I had a threesome at your wedding. Made the

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Daily Mail that would give us content. Just take one

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 2>for the team. I would wish you did and then

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:24.880
<v Speaker 2>you talked about it. That would have been Yeah, I

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 2>would have been all for it. I'm trying to put

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 2>myself in these shoes. If I paid for the airbnb, like,

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 2>if I'm paid for the accommodation and I'd invited people

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 2>back to like enjoy themselves, would enjoy themselves, Laura, it's

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:41.840
<v Speaker 2>money well spent. Would I be annoyed? Would I be

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 2>annoyed about people having a threesome at the airbnb I

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 2>paid for? Only you can answer that. Maybe I'm a

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 2>kill joy. Maybe I don't like people having fun. Maybe

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't like three cents pro more likely.

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 1>But this is the point, right, It can't be bad

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 1>either because you have paid for the accommodation for the

0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 1>bridal party.

0:43:57.719 --> 0:43:58.799
<v Speaker 2>So that was her bed.

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Whether she's won per in the bed or whether she's

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 1>three people in the bed, hasn't costume.

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:03.439
<v Speaker 2>In the bed.

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 1>And the little one said no loud of me.

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Me, Okay, I don't know. Look, I think if you

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 2>regret it, I mean no point asking us whether you

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 2>should regret it or not. I think the big litmus

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 2>for that is if you feel like you did something wrong,

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:22.479
<v Speaker 2>if you feel embarrassed for it, if you're worried about

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 2>what the bridal groom think, go and have a conversation

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 2>with them. You were their bridesmaid, you're clearly one of

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 2>their very close friends.

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I just imagine a scene out of like a hangover

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>scene when they walk in like so pretty big wedding,

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Like when you're trying to broach the subject, you know,

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:38.360
<v Speaker 1>you're like, things get pretty crazy.

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I just go and have a conversation and then you'll

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 2>get a very good gage as to whether they're annoyed.

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Do the open end that I just gave him? Okay,

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 2>next question.

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 1>This is so hard for me. I am so torn.

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 1>It's really serious.

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:58.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, can I we take a moment? Yeah, if

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 2>we had sound effects, i'd put something on. But why

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 2>can you ghost your hairdresser? It's like the buzzer. I

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:12.320
<v Speaker 2>feel like it was off. Hey it's Saturday?

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Can you ghost your hairdresser? I've been going to a

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:17.319
<v Speaker 1>hairdresser for the past two years. We follow each other

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:19.879
<v Speaker 1>on the Gram and I have enjoyed getting my hair

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.799
<v Speaker 1>done there, but I wanted a change. I recently tried

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 1>a new hairdresser. It is slightly more upmarket, and I

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 1>feel more relaxed. I'm usually at the hairdresser every four

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 1>to five hours each time, so relaxation and comfort are

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 1>something I'm willing to pay for. I want to share

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 1>something on my stories from my new hair place, but

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 1>then I stopped as I felt too nervous about what

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the other hairdresser might think, even though I'll probably never

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:44.840
<v Speaker 1>see them outside of a salon environment.

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Is this just me? No, this is not just you.

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:52.120
<v Speaker 2>This is one of life's biggest conundrums. So I think

0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 2>this is how you have to play the sart. Okay,

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 2>you just never go back to the other hairdresser, but

0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>you need to leave some space. You can't just like instant.

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 2>It can't be like your six week appointment that you

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 2>would normally go to your regular hairdresser and then you

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:06.839
<v Speaker 2>start posting from another hairdresser, because do you post every

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 2>time you're at the hairdresser, I don't know. Leave some space,

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:11.800
<v Speaker 2>go to the new hairdresser for a while, really cement

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:14.360
<v Speaker 2>yourself there, really be sure that that's your place and

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 2>your purpose and where you want to be. And then

0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 2>in the future, when old hairdresser has almost forgotten about you,

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.399
<v Speaker 2>she will never forget what happened to that girl who

0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:26.319
<v Speaker 2>used to come. Then you post that you don't need

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 2>to have a conversation with your old hairdresser to tell

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 2>them unfollow her, though first don't be following, and then locko,

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:35.239
<v Speaker 2>don't unfollow because she has anything wrong. But you don't

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.239
<v Speaker 2>have a conversation with your hairdresser and say I'm going

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 2>somewhere else. You just book and then go.

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:40.400
<v Speaker 1>But I guess the question is why do you have

0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 1>to post like you know you're gonna hurt your old

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>hairdressers feel it.

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 2>That's saying don't post now, post in like six months time.

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Hold that shit in for a while. There's no need

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 2>because there's not about that. You don't have to post

0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:56.240
<v Speaker 2>a hairdresser.

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Next time you put a photo up, your hair dresser's

0:46:58.080 --> 0:46:59.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, oh she had black hair an now.

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 2>It's born like just on your normal Instagram, we share

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:02.600
<v Speaker 2>too much.

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe just to let your Instagram, maybe you go really ott.

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 1>You put your photo up and you're like, so thankful

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:16.799
<v Speaker 1>that I won this hair. Maybe don't do that, so

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 1>thankful that my friends surprise me with a voucher for

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:23.319
<v Speaker 1>the hairdresser I'm giving it a whirl, maybe so that

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the hairdresser she sees it. The old hairdresser, she's not

0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:28.400
<v Speaker 1>up there because she's like, oh, she want a voucher.

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Do you think I don't think you need to go.

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:34.479
<v Speaker 2>I think we're overthinking it. I think, look, it's nice

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:37.360
<v Speaker 2>that you're empathetic. It's great that you care. I don't

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 2>think you owe your old hairdresser that much. I think

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:42.640
<v Speaker 2>just you just owe them a bit of space in

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 2>between the posting. But you do develop like.

0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:46.880
<v Speaker 1>A relationship with the hairdresser because you're there for five hours.

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 2>You talk too long.

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I have a few hairdressers right because I go for

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 1>different reasons for different things, and if I really need

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 1>something in one's book, don't go to the other one.

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:56.160
<v Speaker 1>But I make that very clear that I go, and

0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I love them all. I'm very lucky I set that

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 1>groundwork early. These are my hairdresses for different things, and

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:03.799
<v Speaker 1>they all know. So I'm not having any affairs like

0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not having I like, how hard.

0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 2>You're going with this now, Just so that any of

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<v Speaker 2>their hairdressers are listening, they all know that they all loved,

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<v Speaker 2>even though you're all equally loved, except for that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I never went back to you. No, you know who

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<v Speaker 2>you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you spend five hours with them, you talked to

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<v Speaker 1>mom about a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>You really get to know them.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I knew that my hairdress was pregnant before anyone

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<v Speaker 1>even knew, Like I got really inside a goss. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, you do have to treat it

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<v Speaker 1>more carefully than not. But I mean we're all joking

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<v Speaker 1>about saying, don't post and do it your Instagram. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have you don't owe them anything. It's just more

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<v Speaker 1>out of awkwardness. But I know Mitch Jury, like our

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 1>radio co host, he had to break up with his

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<v Speaker 1>hair dresser because.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted to go to a new hairdresser. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>because she moved far away, So that was her own fault.

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<v Speaker 2>She moved to a new clinic and it was too far.

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<v Speaker 2>But he didn't break up with her.

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<v Speaker 1>He just went somewhere else and she saw and then

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<v Speaker 1>she messaged him, and then it was this really awkward moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think it comes down to how close the

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<v Speaker 2>relationship is, Like it's kind of like going to a

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<v Speaker 2>new PT trainer or I don't know, Like there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many variations of this that this could be applied to

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on how close the relationship is. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>only ever going to see this person or speak to

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<v Speaker 2>this person if you step foot in their salon, in

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<v Speaker 2>which case I think there's less of a responsibility to

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<v Speaker 2>their feelings. Yeah, if you're actually never gonna see or

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<v Speaker 2>speak to them again. But if they have your number

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<v Speaker 2>and you like you make your bookings because you text them,

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<v Speaker 2>and like you know, there's a bit of back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth every so often, then I think that there's more

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<v Speaker 2>of an explanation, or not even an explanation. But just like,

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<v Speaker 2>just don't post for a while when you go to

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<v Speaker 2>a new hairdresser. We do not need to post everything

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<v Speaker 2>that we do. It is okay. You can leave some space.

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<v Speaker 2>She'll understand that you've started going somewhere else. And then

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<v Speaker 2>down the track you can post a photo from their

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<v Speaker 2>hairdresser if you want to. If you probably won't even notice,

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<v Speaker 2>you probably will feel better. Don't lie to the audience.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna know, they're gonna know. Let's put a poll up.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's put a poll up. I love a pole and

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<v Speaker 2>I think a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of people have gone through this where they've had

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<v Speaker 1>to break up with a hairdresser. Have you had to

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<v Speaker 1>break up with a hairdresser?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you?

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<v Speaker 1>And then did you tell them or did you ghost them?

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<v Speaker 1>So I think there's two polls.

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<v Speaker 2>Were just goes them. I think it's fine. Okare the

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<v Speaker 2>more I think about it, I'm fine with it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>don't go someone that you've had inside you, but you

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<v Speaker 2>can goese your hair dress so you could still go.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone inside you if you're under the right circumstance, not

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<v Speaker 1>while they're in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep your asking cuts coming into life fun Cut podcast

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram. And I was gonna say, accidently unfiltereds, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you always now let me finish, and your

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally unfilters and your confessionals and any other story you

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<v Speaker 1>think we need to know about because we want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Hear about it. The reason why I'm like jumping in

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm getting excited about accidently unfilters because we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>received many of them recently. We've took a little break,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it's time to bring it back. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we did.

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<v Speaker 1>We had down a different channel for a litt while

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<v Speaker 1>because we wanted to try some new stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I've missed them. I missed them. Tell me

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<v Speaker 2>what is the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to you?

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<v Speaker 2>When did you shot yourself or like have an orgasm

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:14.120
<v Speaker 2>when walking down the street or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy, that's embarrassing. How do you if you can do that,

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 1>let us know how.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what. I don't write it because you're embarrassed. Tell

0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 2>us what your secret is if you can get off

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:25.160
<v Speaker 2>walking down the street. We need to know you live

0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:27.799
<v Speaker 2>your rest life. That is it from us. You guys

0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 2>know the drill. So your mum, tell dad, tell your dog,

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<v Speaker 2>tell your friends. We share the love because we love love.