Speaker 1: It's two days before the opening night of Groundhog Day
Speaker 1: on Broadway. It feels like everything in your career has
Speaker 1: been leading up to this moment. But then, ten minutes
Speaker 1: before the end of one of the preview shows, you
Speaker 1: tear your acl It's a major injury and you literally
Speaker 1: can't walk. That's what happened to Broadway star Andy Carl
Speaker 1: who is now currently appearing in Melbourne repeating his performance
Speaker 1: quite literally many times a night as Phil Connor in
Speaker 1: the Tim Minchin musical Groundhog Day. So how did Andy
Speaker 1: get through a Broadway star's worst nightmare? And what does
Speaker 1: he do to maintain peak vocal and physical fitness, And
Speaker 1: what piece of advice did he receive from Sylvester Stallone
Speaker 1: that literally changed the way he thought about how he
Speaker 1: approaches his theater performances. My name is doctor Amantha Imbert.
Speaker 1: I'm an organizational psychologist and founder of Behavior change consultancy Inventium,
Speaker 1: and this is how I work a show about how
Speaker 1: to help you get so much more out of the
Speaker 1: hours in your day. So Andy is currently starring in
Speaker 1: Groundhog Day the musical in Melbourne, doing eight shows a week,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to know what physical and vocal routines
Speaker 1: does he have in place to give him the energy
Speaker 1: to bring one hundred percent to every performance.
Speaker 2: I think you know, inherent in the nature of theater
Speaker 2: and specifically musical theater, repetition is paramount.
Speaker 3: It's eight shows a week. It is a lot of grind.
Speaker 2: So you try to get into the repetition of how
Speaker 2: you can judge how well you're going to be that day,
Speaker 2: whether at eighty percent or one hundred and twenty percent
Speaker 2: as far as vocally physically, so there is the gym.
Speaker 2: There is vocal warm up, So I do a very
Speaker 2: strict vocal warm up every day. But I also then
Speaker 2: go sing three very different types of songs specifically for
Speaker 2: this show because it is so varied in its vocal identity.
Speaker 2: So I'll sing a little bit of Sinatra, and then
Speaker 2: I'll sing a little Occubis, and then I'll sing a
Speaker 2: regular old school tune called Wonderful from.
Speaker 3: And it gets your gun.
Speaker 2: It is so I just can utilize every inch of
Speaker 2: my vocal range, because this show does take a lot,
Speaker 2: and I do that every day.
Speaker 3: I need to get through to give me some excitement.
Speaker 2: It really gets my adrenaline going at the beginning and
Speaker 2: it gets me. It gets me excited to say the
Speaker 2: words and be active and know how flexible I am
Speaker 2: for certain moves that I'll do on stage because it's
Speaker 2: very physically active as well.
Speaker 1: Do I ask you Andy on caffeine because that's kind
Speaker 1: of shocking me. And I'm sitting here drinking a coffee
Speaker 1: and it's so delicious. I love coffee. You're in Melbourne, Oh,
Speaker 1: I've had your coffee here.
Speaker 3: I felt like I was hallucinating at one point.
Speaker 1: So I've heard with caffeine. I feel like I've heard
Speaker 1: this from seeingers that caffeine restricts your vocal core. Is
Speaker 1: that right? So I'm like, how are you having the
Speaker 1: caffeine during the show and not having that have a
Speaker 1: negative impact on your voice?
Speaker 2: Large amounts of water hydration. I didn't do that the
Speaker 2: first time I did this show back in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: I didn't drink enough water, and I'm now healthfully hydrating.
Speaker 2: I think it's good for anybody who speaks a lot
Speaker 2: and well sings a lot. You know, for any of
Speaker 2: your listeners who are speakers who have to do lots
Speaker 2: of speeches.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you do a lot of speaking.
Speaker 2: You realize the caffeine's great, but you got to have
Speaker 2: that glass of water nearby.
Speaker 1: So you're singing those three songs. Are there any little
Speaker 1: vocal warm up hacks that like me, immortals like me
Speaker 1: can take. And what I mean by that, like one
Speaker 1: hack that I have picked up from performers is the importance.
Speaker 1: And I use this because I've recorded a couple of
Speaker 1: audiobooks before which are just so vocally demanding, where you're
Speaker 1: in a studio for a four hour shift and you're
Speaker 1: trying to maintain energy for every minute of those four
Speaker 1: hours and speaking and reading constantly. And I got told, like,
Speaker 1: get a little cup of water and a straw and
Speaker 1: blow bubbles. And that's like a little hack that I
Speaker 1: picked up. But what are some little hacks that you
Speaker 1: can share with me.
Speaker 3: I've heard about the straw. I've never utilized it.
Speaker 2: I've only strictly stayed with pretty classical warm ups as
Speaker 2: far as scales. However, I did discover during one showed
Speaker 2: Jersey Boys that if I can warm my voice by
Speaker 2: going as deep as I possibly can, because you know,
Speaker 2: the show is very high, but if you extend the
Speaker 2: ranges of your voice and really make sure that you
Speaker 2: know how deep you can go and then start building
Speaker 2: up and going as high. It really gives the flexibility
Speaker 2: of your entire vocal cord. Your vocal cords are a muscle,
Speaker 2: and they do need exercise, and they do need to
Speaker 2: stay lubricated and loose as well, So it's really important
Speaker 2: to extend the upper range and the lower range.
Speaker 1: There any exercises that you do to improve the fitness
Speaker 1: of your diaphragm and just breath work and he routines
Speaker 1: around that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, crunches, you do those.
Speaker 2: I find all my physical activity just inherently helps everything
Speaker 2: about my voice, everything my posture, everything about my ability
Speaker 2: to present myself well on stage. I think Phil Connor's
Speaker 2: the role that I'm playing, changes posture due to the
Speaker 2: circumstances that he's in. I certainly stand pretty stoic in
Speaker 2: the beginning and then proud when I'm delivering a weatherman speech,
Speaker 2: and when he falls into the repetition.
Speaker 3: Of each day that he is now.
Speaker 2: Finding to be a nightmare, I start to hunt over
Speaker 2: as Phil and sort of lose my ability to stand
Speaker 2: up straight and be presentable and powerful. So it's different
Speaker 2: variations on a character that really affect the way I
Speaker 2: speak and really affect the way that I talk, so
Speaker 2: in order to keep you know the power of your voice,
Speaker 2: making sure that all that your entire body has the
Speaker 2: ability to be flexible and strong.
Speaker 3: So do those.
Speaker 2: Crunches lift those weights. I'm not saying you have to
Speaker 2: be a bodybuilder. I find weightlifting to be very helpful,
Speaker 2: and yoga I do every other day. So elasticity and
Speaker 2: strength and power is where I come from.
Speaker 1: I want to ask about when your health isn't one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. And I asked this because last week I
Speaker 1: had a cold and I had several keynote speeches that
Speaker 1: I had to deliver, and I was so fearful of
Speaker 1: losing my voice through pushing through. And I want to know.
Speaker 1: The role that you play in Groundhog Day is so
Speaker 1: vocally and physically demanding. What do you do where you
Speaker 1: feel like maybe you're coming down with something, or maybe
Speaker 1: you're at the tail end and you know, maybe you've
Speaker 1: taken a few performances off but still lingering, and you're
Speaker 1: still kind of wondering, do I have the vocal strength
Speaker 1: to do this? What is some interesting hacks that you've
Speaker 1: picked up to help get over something?
Speaker 2: Getting over something is I prescribe never getting into something.
Speaker 1: How do you do that?
Speaker 3: How do you do it?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, please keep your vitamins going. I've learned to,
Speaker 2: you know, do the vitamin C. I mean, as humans,
Speaker 2: we don't absorb vitamin C from food like animals do,
Speaker 2: so we have to take our supplements. The supplementation I
Speaker 2: think is the way to good health.
Speaker 3: And exercise.
Speaker 2: Of course, I think exercise also helps you get out
Speaker 2: of something as well.
Speaker 3: If you do suffer from a cold and you feel.
Speaker 2: Good enough to do some physical exercise, it does clear
Speaker 2: up a lot of things. It does help your body
Speaker 2: repair and certainly gets the blood going in order to repair.
Speaker 2: If you're spending an entire day sitting in bed feeling sick,
Speaker 2: your voice isn't going to come back quick. So if
Speaker 2: you can give yourself a little time to just take
Speaker 2: a walk or something to make it before a speech,
Speaker 2: if you're feeling like you're just getting over a cold,
Speaker 2: take a nice, healthy walk and keep hydrated. So but
Speaker 2: I really prescribe trying to not get sick.
Speaker 1: Something that the Evening Standards said about you is that
Speaker 1: they said he uses star quality. I got to say
Speaker 1: when I saw groundhog day, and I'm going back to
Speaker 1: see it again because I loved it that much. Yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm coming back in March. The presence that you have
Speaker 1: on stage is just it's amazing. And I want to
Speaker 1: understand that those of us that do present or even
Speaker 1: run meetings and need to command a room in some way.
Speaker 1: If you were to teach someone like whatever it is
Speaker 1: that is going on for you unconsciously or consciously, where
Speaker 1: would you start? How do you do that?
Speaker 2: I suffer from not having a lot of confidence in
Speaker 2: my life, and certainly once you go through the ebbs
Speaker 2: and flows of being an actor, where you're working and
Speaker 2: then you're not working, and you sort of question, you know,
Speaker 2: am I confident enough to survive this business? And then
Speaker 2: you get moments where you do have to stand up
Speaker 2: in the center and be in the spotlight and oose
Speaker 2: that confidence and oose that ability. I mean that comes
Speaker 2: from repetition of being able to find your.
Speaker 3: Skill set what works for you.
Speaker 2: I did Rocky the Musical on Broadway years ago, and
Speaker 2: Sylvester Stallone was involved, so he came to a few
Speaker 2: previews and rehearsals and things like that. He knew I
Speaker 2: could do the show he knew I was like humble enough,
Speaker 2: strong enough, all this kind of stuff. He just literally
Speaker 2: said one day I was like, all right, now own it.
Speaker 2: Now own the part, so take it as your own.
Speaker 2: So your intention really has to come from within. So
Speaker 2: you have to truly believe the I guess the indoctrine
Speaker 2: of the words of the text and take them to
Speaker 2: your heart and to your soul as soon as you
Speaker 2: can connect there to your yourself and to your beliefs
Speaker 2: or your strengths. All makes it much easier to look
Speaker 2: confident and to ooze a quality. I also have a
Speaker 2: bunch of tricks in my bag just being an actor
Speaker 2: for so long, I have dance skills. I have the
Speaker 2: confidence to move freely through the space and feel confident.
Speaker 2: I'm also highly aware of things. I'm sure I have
Speaker 2: a bit of OCD from doing shows for so long
Speaker 2: on repeat. That is fun for me, and I can
Speaker 2: play with that because I do know the marks in
Speaker 2: which I have to hit, and then I can play
Speaker 2: with all these things. So there's a bit of play
Speaker 2: knowledge OCD and confidence and owning it and dance skills.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I would I would suggest anybody like take
Speaker 2: a few dance skills or just try and dance. Everybody's
Speaker 2: doing it now on TikTok. It's all working out very
Speaker 2: well for people. I think it's a skill that at
Speaker 2: least frees your body and gives you a little bit
Speaker 2: more confidence to stand in front of people.
Speaker 1: Continuing on with this performance, state, what are some other
Speaker 1: memorable pieces of advice that you've received from directors or
Speaker 1: acting coaches or even just fellow performers that have fundamentally
Speaker 1: changed how you do or think about performing.
Speaker 2: There's so many of those stories in my life. I
Speaker 2: would say the first is a director when I was
Speaker 2: in college. She was directing Greece and I was playing
Speaker 2: the lead Danny and local show in Baltimore, Maryland. But
Speaker 2: he turned to me one day and he's like, you know,
Speaker 2: you could do this. He basically said I could try
Speaker 2: a career out as an actors and from there I
Speaker 2: immediately took off. I was like, got it, that's what
Speaker 2: I wanted to hear. Somebody gave me a little bit
Speaker 2: of fire under my belly to do it. So I
Speaker 2: try to do that for other people as well. If
Speaker 2: I really see something in them and they're young and
Speaker 2: they're impressionable, It's like you can add something to their
Speaker 2: lives by saying, you know, you're pretty good at this.
Speaker 2: I mean you might want to try, and that could
Speaker 2: change the course of their life. And I think that
Speaker 2: did it for me. And through the years, as I've
Speaker 2: gotten to know directors and actors, you look for the
Speaker 2: people that inspire you their energy. Jerry Mitchell, who does
Speaker 2: a lot of Broadway shows, from Hairspray to Illegally Blonde
Speaker 2: to Doubleware's Product, he has an undying energy and a
Speaker 2: love for this art form, which it is an art form,
Speaker 2: musical theater. He has an energy to try to make
Speaker 2: the best of anything that he's working on and provide
Speaker 2: that energy for everybody that's around him. So I do
Speaker 2: think that our energy affects everyone around us. Alison Janney,
Speaker 2: we did a nine to five for the musical in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles years ago and on Broadway, and you realize,
Speaker 2: if you could establish yourself as the lead actor and
Speaker 2: provide happiness, joy, show everybody your efforts work hard, basically
Speaker 2: everyone will follow suit.
Speaker 3: The whole group is guided by the energy of their leader.
Speaker 1: Now I feel like an obvious question to ask, even
Speaker 1: you are in Groundhog Day, which involves repeating the same
Speaker 1: thing the same day, many, many times. How you keep
Speaker 1: it fresh? I was at a Christmas party chatting to
Speaker 1: a performer and he'd been doing The mouse Trap for
Speaker 1: the whole of the year, and I was asking him
Speaker 1: the same question, and I liked what he said in
Speaker 1: that he said, but every night is a different show
Speaker 1: because it's a different audience and it's a completely new experience.
Speaker 1: And really I love that answer because I, you know,
Speaker 1: the certain keynotes that I deliver as part of my work,
Speaker 1: and sometimes before a keynote, I'm just not feeling it,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my goodness, this is the hundredth
Speaker 1: time I've delivered this, and I have to somehow mentally
Speaker 1: reframe the situation. And I'd love to know, like, what
Speaker 1: is going through your mind, particularly when you're not feeling it.
Speaker 1: How do you get yourself into the zone and make
Speaker 1: it exciting when it's like the seven hundredth performance of
Speaker 1: Groundhog Day that you've done in your career.
Speaker 2: It is a fresh audience every night, So there's an
Speaker 2: undying passion for an audience to understand what I understand,
Speaker 2: which is how funny things are. And the sum up
Speaker 2: parts will eventually tell this story, which I find so profound,
Speaker 2: which is why I'm doing it so much. It's another
Speaker 2: level of repetition to perform a show that is about repetition,
Speaker 2: and the philosophy behind it is, if you are stuck
Speaker 2: in the same thing, doing it over and over again,
Speaker 2: what can you find just by sheer storytelling. We end
Speaker 2: in a place of finding presence and happiness in the moment.
Speaker 2: And in order for me to get there, I have
Speaker 2: to have the intention of the entire story or I'm
Speaker 2: not going to end in the place that is what
Speaker 2: the story is really about. You know, I get to
Speaker 2: be this guy who I believe. Australians have a good
Speaker 2: dark sense of humor too. They really love a sort
Speaker 2: of villain that will get his justice. You know, why
Speaker 2: not let that, especially as an actor, why not let
Speaker 2: that be your story? What if you're not feeling great
Speaker 2: this day, you can start your keynote speeches like you
Speaker 2: know what.
Speaker 3: I woke up this.
Speaker 2: Morning not feeling like I wanted to be here specifically.
Speaker 2: But I'm here because I believe in everything that I'm
Speaker 2: talking about. So it is very human of ourselves to
Speaker 2: not feel something, particularly one hundred percent each day. But
Speaker 2: the repetition that is inherent in this piece, and the
Speaker 2: repetition of me repeating the same performance of a person
Speaker 2: who's repeating the same day is kind of a giant
Speaker 2: philosophical joke to me, and I still get a kick
Speaker 2: out of it.
Speaker 1: You're always thinking of new things and trying new things
Speaker 1: within the show and making really generous offers to the
Speaker 1: cast that you're working with. Can you tell me a
Speaker 1: bit about that.
Speaker 2: I think, well, one part of it is I've been doing,
Speaker 2: you know, in the theater for so long. Did I
Speaker 2: just say the theater is or a third person? I've
Speaker 2: been doing theater for so long that you realize you
Speaker 2: can really find the joy in imperfections. Things go wrong,
Speaker 2: But I enjoy the imperfections. And this show A Grand
Speaker 2: Ode has so many things, so many characters that have
Speaker 2: so many effects on each character, and each movement they
Speaker 2: do is being repeated, and if they do something different
Speaker 2: each day, I'm looking for all the imperfections. But I
Speaker 2: also can and choose to go into certain with the
Speaker 2: same intention of what Phil Connors has he goes into
Speaker 2: a scene where he knows he's winning to repeat. I
Speaker 2: can go in with the same intention. But I can
Speaker 2: also play with different lines and variations onlines and activities
Speaker 2: that I'm doing in order to really tell the idea
Speaker 2: of I got this audience, guess what I'm going to
Speaker 2: get it over on this person. Because I'm repeating the
Speaker 2: same day, they know what's going on. So I'll dig
Speaker 2: into it a little bit and it'll be a nice
Speaker 2: playful moment between me and the audience. Say you're doing
Speaker 2: speeches for the hundredth time, I think in repetition, finding
Speaker 2: the intention behind everything that you're doing, and maybe you
Speaker 2: have a section of speech that you're digging into and
Speaker 2: want to really tell that story and make sure it's
Speaker 2: clear it has to come from the heart.
Speaker 3: Believe in it and others will believe in it as well.
Speaker 1: We will be back with Andy soon where he shares
Speaker 1: what happened when he got struck by a major physical
Speaker 1: injury just two days before the Broadway opening night of
Speaker 1: Groundhog Day. If you're looking for more tips to improve
Speaker 1: the way you work and live, I write a weekly
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Speaker 1: dot com. I want to come back to Rocky and
Speaker 1: you'd actually been picked by Sylvester Stallone to play Rocky,
Speaker 1: which is pretty crazy. And during that show I heard
Speaker 1: you literally got punched in the face during the show.
Speaker 1: What did you do to get yourself into the physical
Speaker 1: health that you needed to be in to play that
Speaker 1: role and maintain that during the season.
Speaker 3: I chose suffering up seven am in the morning.
Speaker 2: I got a trainer immediately, even before I booked the show.
Speaker 2: I had put my manifestation I suppose on I'm getting that.
Speaker 3: There's nothing that's going to keep me from it.
Speaker 2: So up every morning at seven working out, then going
Speaker 2: to boxing training, and then and then doing the actual performance.
Speaker 2: It shows a week with a twenty minute fight at
Speaker 2: the end and a ten minute fight in the beginning,
Speaker 2: and training montages and big songs. It was a constant
Speaker 2: bit of suffering, but that was part of the Rocky experience.
Speaker 2: Rocky he's a down and out boxer, He was nobody
Speaker 2: and he got a shot. I was at the time
Speaker 2: living the same experience. There was a first big role
Speaker 2: for me and chosen my silestist alone and a giant
Speaker 2: amount of physical activity and changing my voice, and you know,
Speaker 2: as I was talking down here, that was the entire time,
Speaker 2: you know what was doing my you know, really living
Speaker 2: in the character and living in his shoes, and he
Speaker 2: had his turtles and his little abovement and all that.
Speaker 2: So it was just a matter of getting into the
Speaker 2: boxer mentality. One of the lines which is you know
Speaker 2: Rocky's line from Rocky Balboa, he was giving a speech
Speaker 2: to his son.
Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't matter how hard you get hit,
Speaker 3: is how hard you.
Speaker 2: Get hit and keep moving forward, how much you could
Speaker 2: take and keep moving forward, And that's how winning is done.
Speaker 3: That rings true all the time to me. There is
Speaker 3: a matter of work, whether it's mental or physical, and
Speaker 3: facing the challenge and knowing that you can do anything
Speaker 3: in this world if you put your mind to it
Speaker 3: and face the challenge.
Speaker 2: And you may not, you know, you may not be
Speaker 2: the winner at the end, but the experience really is
Speaker 2: the journey.
Speaker 1: So he said, that was your first major role, What
Speaker 1: practically speaking did you do to improve your chances of
Speaker 1: getting what seems like it was a bit of a
Speaker 1: dream role.
Speaker 2: Rocky came along where it was an audition, and I said,
Speaker 2: are you kidding me? They're making a rocky of the musical.
Speaker 2: That sounds like a terrible idea, a terrible idea. How
Speaker 2: was this guy gonna sing? Then I got the audition,
Speaker 2: and then I watched the movie and I realized the
Speaker 2: intimate love story and facing against all odds the challenges,
Speaker 2: and I was like, wait a minute, this has something,
Speaker 2: This is something really important to say. And Sylvester Smolane
Speaker 2: had been wanting to make a musical of it for
Speaker 2: like twelve years before it actually got there. I dug
Speaker 2: in and I auditioned for it, and you know, I
Speaker 2: tried to show myself off physically as well as like vocality,
Speaker 2: and tried to be in that mind frame and certainly
Speaker 2: in the mind frame of somebody who's just trying to
Speaker 2: make it Somewhere. It became locked in my head as
Speaker 2: I need to do this, so I need to figure
Speaker 2: out any way that I can. I will give the best, clear,
Speaker 2: absolutely truthful a Jay that I possibly can, and I
Speaker 2: will find the voice. And so it was about practicing
Speaker 2: the voice and changing the voice and getting it down here.
Speaker 2: And I was talking to my dog all the time,
Speaker 2: just like you, trying to grab onto that and latch
Speaker 2: onto it. And how it felt natural. So I kept
Speaker 2: up my physical strength training and I kept emailing someone
Speaker 2: and with a team.
Speaker 3: Every now and again, I hear it's going really well
Speaker 3: in Germany.
Speaker 2: And then when the auditions came around, they said they
Speaker 2: actually told me I didn't have to audition, kind of
Speaker 2: saying that I had the role maybe, but I couldn't tell.
Speaker 2: So I said, I would still like to audition, So
Speaker 2: I'm I'm going to show up. I think that's important.
Speaker 2: I was invested and I wanted to make sure that
Speaker 2: they saw that and it worked out great.
Speaker 1: Now I've heard that probably one of the bigger physical
Speaker 1: challenges that you've had happened seventy two hours before Groundhog
Speaker 1: Day opened on Broadway, where you had an ACL tear.
Speaker 1: Can you for people that have no idea what that is?
Speaker 1: Can you explain, like what that is, what happened and
Speaker 1: how it hurts. Do you mentally and physically get through
Speaker 1: something like that, because it's not an option to not
Speaker 1: appr on opening night for a Broadway show.
Speaker 2: Yes, two days before opening night of Broadway, I just
Speaker 2: thought I was coming in guns blazing. I had an
Speaker 2: Olivier Award from London. I felt like I had manifested
Speaker 2: my whole life around this. Everything was coming clear to
Speaker 2: me and I was like, this is it. This is
Speaker 2: your chance and your opportunity. And then two nights before
Speaker 2: the opening night, my ACL ligament, which basically is a
Speaker 2: ligament that holds.
Speaker 3: Your knee from.
Speaker 2: Not going laterally, it keeps your knee in checks. The
Speaker 2: ACL apparently keeps your knee from going side to side,
Speaker 2: which is not a good thing. So that ripped entirely.
Speaker 2: I had full ACL tear and just went down in
Speaker 2: front of the audience on the last ten minutes of
Speaker 2: the show and crawled off stage. And I had a
Speaker 2: very immediate awareness that this is over. I just lost
Speaker 2: everything that I've been working for. And Rocky opted in
Speaker 2: my head and said, it ain't how hard you get hit,
Speaker 2: it's how hard you get hit and key moving forward, and.
Speaker 3: I took it to heart. It was I was glad
Speaker 3: I learned the lesson that lesson from that character.
Speaker 2: And I wrapped my leg up and I said, I
Speaker 2: want to do this, I want to try.
Speaker 3: I want to try.
Speaker 2: We had to take all the fluids out of my
Speaker 2: knee because my knee was very swollen. The physical therapist said, well,
Speaker 2: you could give it a shot. I'll wrap it up
Speaker 2: for you and we'll try. And Michael kors I met
Speaker 2: who was a big designer. He came to opening night.
Speaker 2: He said that John McEnroe and him are friends apparently,
Speaker 2: and he said, John McEnroe, can't believe that you got
Speaker 2: back up on the stage and did this show. I
Speaker 2: did open the show. I got through everything with a
Speaker 2: brace around my knee. So I had, you know, Rocky
Speaker 2: in my head. But I also had a bunch of
Speaker 2: how am I going to do this? How am I
Speaker 2: going to move this way constantly? While doing show that
Speaker 2: is in constant repetition and constant movement. There's a lot
Speaker 2: going on. But I was able to use it as
Speaker 2: a joke in the show. I was able to turn
Speaker 2: it into a positive. It didn't feel very good, but
Speaker 2: it taught me a lot about the tolerance of pain.
Speaker 2: Everything the Groundhog Day was telling me is to live
Speaker 2: in the present moment and be thankful for the things
Speaker 2: that you have and appreciate everything. Injury or no, there's
Speaker 2: always something you can do beyond that. I love what
Speaker 2: I do. I do what I do for me alone
Speaker 2: and for the pride that I give, and for the
Speaker 2: people around me. So it opened my eyes a lot
Speaker 2: into how to deal with injury and never sacrifice your
Speaker 2: own integrity or be caught up in your own selfish
Speaker 2: desire to let go.
Speaker 3: Sometimes things aren't that.
Speaker 1: Bad, Oh Andy, I'm so glad we could make this
Speaker 1: interview happen. As I moved through my life, I'm always
Speaker 1: just trying to take note of the people that I'm
Speaker 1: super impressed by or that move me in some way.
Speaker 1: And when I saw you perform in Groundhog Day a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, I just thought I need to interview him.
Speaker 1: I want to hear more about his story. And for
Speaker 1: anyone that is listening at the right time and is
Speaker 1: in Melbourne or can get to Melbourne, you just you
Speaker 1: have to see Groundhog Day. It's one of the best
Speaker 1: musicals I've ever seen. I'll be back again in the
Speaker 1: audience in a few weeks time. Andy, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for sharing your fascinating strategies and amazing stories with
Speaker 1: me here today.
Speaker 2: I appreciate Metha, thanks so much for having me. Comes
Speaker 2: to you the show and you'll see somebody who's actually
Speaker 2: a little in Groundhog Dan said of Groundhog Dan, I'm
Speaker 2: having fun with it.
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this chat with Andy Carl and
Speaker 1: learning what goes on behind the scenes of a big
Speaker 1: musical theater show. Now, if you do like musical theater,
Speaker 1: and really even if you just love a great story,
Speaker 1: I cannot recommend strongly enough to go see Andy in
Speaker 1: Groundhog Day the musical, which is currently playing in Melbourne
Speaker 1: until April twenty twenty four. If you enjoy today's episode,
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