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Speaker 1: It's two days before the opening night of Groundhog Day

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Speaker 1: on Broadway. It feels like everything in your career has

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Speaker 1: been leading up to this moment. But then, ten minutes

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Speaker 1: before the end of one of the preview shows, you

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Speaker 1: tear your acl It's a major injury and you literally

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Speaker 1: can't walk. That's what happened to Broadway star Andy Carl

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Speaker 1: who is now currently appearing in Melbourne repeating his performance

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Speaker 1: quite literally many times a night as Phil Connor in

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Speaker 1: the Tim Minchin musical Groundhog Day. So how did Andy

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Speaker 1: get through a Broadway star's worst nightmare? And what does

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Speaker 1: he do to maintain peak vocal and physical fitness, And

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Speaker 1: what piece of advice did he receive from Sylvester Stallone

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Speaker 1: that literally changed the way he thought about how he

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Speaker 1: approaches his theater performances. My name is doctor Amantha Imbert.

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Speaker 1: I'm an organizational psychologist and founder of Behavior change consultancy Inventium,

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Speaker 1: and this is how I work a show about how

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Speaker 1: to help you get so much more out of the

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Speaker 1: hours in your day. So Andy is currently starring in

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Speaker 1: Groundhog Day the musical in Melbourne, doing eight shows a week,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to know what physical and vocal routines

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Speaker 1: does he have in place to give him the energy

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Speaker 1: to bring one hundred percent to every performance.

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Speaker 2: I think you know, inherent in the nature of theater

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Speaker 2: and specifically musical theater, repetition is paramount.

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Speaker 3: It's eight shows a week. It is a lot of grind.

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Speaker 2: So you try to get into the repetition of how

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Speaker 2: you can judge how well you're going to be that day,

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Speaker 2: whether at eighty percent or one hundred and twenty percent

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Speaker 2: as far as vocally physically, so there is the gym.

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Speaker 2: There is vocal warm up, So I do a very

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Speaker 2: strict vocal warm up every day. But I also then

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Speaker 2: go sing three very different types of songs specifically for

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Speaker 2: this show because it is so varied in its vocal identity.

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Speaker 2: So I'll sing a little bit of Sinatra, and then

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Speaker 2: I'll sing a little Occubis, and then I'll sing a

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Speaker 2: regular old school tune called Wonderful from.

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Speaker 3: And it gets your gun.

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Speaker 2: It is so I just can utilize every inch of

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Speaker 2: my vocal range, because this show does take a lot,

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Speaker 2: and I do that every day.

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Speaker 3: I need to get through to give me some excitement.

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Speaker 2: It really gets my adrenaline going at the beginning and

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Speaker 2: it gets me. It gets me excited to say the

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Speaker 2: words and be active and know how flexible I am

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Speaker 2: for certain moves that I'll do on stage because it's

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Speaker 2: very physically active as well.

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Speaker 1: Do I ask you Andy on caffeine because that's kind

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Speaker 1: of shocking me. And I'm sitting here drinking a coffee

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Speaker 1: and it's so delicious. I love coffee. You're in Melbourne, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I've had your coffee here.

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Speaker 3: I felt like I was hallucinating at one point.

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Speaker 1: So I've heard with caffeine. I feel like I've heard

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Speaker 1: this from seeingers that caffeine restricts your vocal core. Is

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Speaker 1: that right? So I'm like, how are you having the

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Speaker 2: Large amounts of water hydration. I didn't do that the

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Speaker 2: first time I did this show back in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: I didn't drink enough water, and I'm now healthfully hydrating.

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Speaker 2: I think it's good for anybody who speaks a lot

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Speaker 2: and well sings a lot. You know, for any of

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you do a lot of speaking.

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Speaker 2: You realize the caffeine's great, but you got to have

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Speaker 1: So you're singing those three songs. Are there any little

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Speaker 1: vocal warm up hacks that like me, immortals like me

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Speaker 3: I've heard about the straw. I've never utilized it.

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Speaker 2: I've only strictly stayed with pretty classical warm ups as

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Speaker 2: far as scales. However, I did discover during one showed

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Speaker 1: There any exercises that you do to improve the fitness

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, crunches, you do those.

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Speaker 2: I find all my physical activity just inherently helps everything

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Speaker 2: about my voice, everything my posture, everything about my ability

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Speaker 2: to present myself well on stage. I think Phil Connor's

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Speaker 3: Of each day that he is now.

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Speaker 2: Finding to be a nightmare, I start to hunt over

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Speaker 2: in order to keep you know the power of your voice,

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Speaker 3: So do those.

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Speaker 2: Crunches lift those weights. I'm not saying you have to

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Speaker 1: I want to ask about when your health isn't one

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Speaker 1: The role that you play in Groundhog Day is so

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Speaker 2: Getting over something is I prescribe never getting into something.

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Speaker 1: How do you do that?

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Speaker 3: How do you do it?

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, please keep your vitamins going. I've learned to,

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Speaker 3: And exercise.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I think exercise also helps you get out

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Speaker 3: If you do suffer from a cold and you feel.

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Speaker 2: Good enough to do some physical exercise, it does clear

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Speaker 2: If you're spending an entire day sitting in bed feeling sick,

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Speaker 1: Something that the Evening Standards said about you is that

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Speaker 1: they said he uses star quality. I got to say

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Speaker 1: when I saw groundhog day, and I'm going back to

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Speaker 1: I'm coming back in March. The presence that you have

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Speaker 1: If you were to teach someone like whatever it is

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Speaker 2: I suffer from not having a lot of confidence in

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Speaker 2: my life, and certainly once you go through the ebbs

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Speaker 3: Skill set what works for you.

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Speaker 2: I did Rocky the Musical on Broadway years ago, and

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Speaker 2: So your intention really has to come from within. So

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Speaker 2: you have to truly believe the I guess the indoctrine

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Speaker 2: I'm also highly aware of things. I'm sure I have

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I would I would suggest anybody like take

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Speaker 2: well for people. I think it's a skill that at

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Speaker 1: Continuing on with this performance, state, what are some other

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Speaker 1: memorable pieces of advice that you've received from directors or

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Speaker 1: acting coaches or even just fellow performers that have fundamentally

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Speaker 1: changed how you do or think about performing.

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Speaker 2: There's so many of those stories in my life. I

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Speaker 2: would say the first is a director when I was

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Speaker 2: in college. She was directing Greece and I was playing

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Speaker 2: you could do this. He basically said I could try

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Speaker 1: you'd actually been picked by Sylvester Stallone to play Rocky,

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Speaker 3: I chose suffering up seven am in the morning.

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Speaker 2: I got a trainer immediately, even before I booked the show.

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Speaker 2: Everything the Groundhog Day was telling me is to live

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Speaker 2: into how to deal with injury and never sacrifice your

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Speaker 1: Bad, Oh Andy, I'm so glad we could make this

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Speaker 1: And when I saw you perform in Groundhog Day a

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Speaker 1: I want to hear more about his story. And for

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Speaker 1: have to see Groundhog Day. It's one of the best

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Speaker 1: musicals I've ever seen. I'll be back again in the

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Speaker 1: much for sharing your fascinating strategies and amazing stories with

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Speaker 2: I appreciate Metha, thanks so much for having me. Comes

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Speaker 2: to you the show and you'll see somebody who's actually

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this chat with Andy Carl and

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Speaker 1: learning what goes on behind the scenes of a big

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