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Speaker 1: Joining us live on the line again. Police Association President

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Speaker 1: Paul mchu Good morning, Paul. That's all right mate. Now

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Speaker 1: we were talking about these border changes and what kind

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Speaker 1: of impact it's going to have on our frontline police

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Speaker 1: who work out in some very remote and regional locations. Paul,

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Speaker 1: what are officers saying to you since that announcement was

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Speaker 1: made last week?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, obviously, unless there's some exemptions provided, it's going

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Speaker 2: to create an enormous issue for our offices. Not just them,

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Speaker 2: but they're families of course, who many have children in

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Speaker 2: these isolated areas or go to boarding school down south

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Speaker 2: and over on the East Coast. So it's going to

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Speaker 2: create enormous problems. Obviously, the practicality of it, it's challenging,

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Speaker 2: will understand, it's very challenging, and we certainly don't want

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Speaker 2: to COVID to spread through these communities. But practically, you know,

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Speaker 2: we need to remember there are other jobs to do

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Speaker 2: and there are people's livelihoods at stakes. So certainly, the

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Speaker 2: feedback we've had so far is is there an enormous

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Speaker 2: amount of concern around this issue?

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Speaker 1: Well, what will happen if there isn't some kind of

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Speaker 1: exemption or exemption granted, I should say for Northern Territory Police.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess as it stands, they'll have to comply

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Speaker 2: with the requirements as they've been outlined. But we've got

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Speaker 2: no doubt many of our senior executive would be working

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Speaker 2: through this issue at the moment. Of course, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: just affect us, it affects you know. We know the

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Speaker 2: Cattleman's Association have come out against this, We know the

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Speaker 2: Isolated Children's Parenting Association, we know as many others, teachers, health.

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Speaker 2: I mean, these communities need these people in there to

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Speaker 2: make sure the community is safe and healthy, and we

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Speaker 2: can't have such difficult restrictions in place when we're talking

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Speaker 2: about people that have to move in and out of

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Speaker 2: these communities as part of their role. Remembering many of

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Speaker 2: our offices, many of our members are actually you know,

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Speaker 2: they're told to go and work there. They don't do

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Speaker 2: it by choice, they're actually told to go there, and

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Speaker 2: of course we need to make sure they can do

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Speaker 2: that practically.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, I would you know, I would suspect

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Speaker 1: it's going to have a huge mental impact on a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, whether you're talking about those

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Speaker 1: essential workers, whether you're talking about people who maybe work

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Speaker 1: on quite you know, remote sort of mind sights and

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Speaker 1: various other industries, and I think that these change come

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Speaker 1: December twenty. It just sort of caught a lot of

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Speaker 1: as off guard.

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Speaker 2: I think it did. And as I said, I know,

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Speaker 2: this is a very difficult situation for everyone to manage.

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Speaker 2: And I mean we've never had to, you know, embark

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Speaker 2: on this journey before and hopefully we never have to again.

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Speaker 2: But what it does mean is we've got lots of questions.

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Speaker 2: We haven't got a lot of answers at the moment,

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Speaker 2: and obviously this announcement around the twentieth of December has

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Speaker 2: caused a lot of concern for our central workers and

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Speaker 2: their families and many people that work outside of those

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Speaker 2: three major centers that they're saying you have to remain

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Speaker 2: in for fourteen days once you come back, so practically

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Speaker 2: from a health perspective, of course, we understand and why

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Speaker 2: they're trying to do it. Practically, it just simply won't work,

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Speaker 2: and we need to come down and urgently and sit

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Speaker 2: down get given. It's impending. We're nearly halfway through decemb already,

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Speaker 2: and you know, we need to have some answers for

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Speaker 2: our officers and their families, because it's important when they

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Speaker 2: take this time off it's with their family and they

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Speaker 2: shall be able to return with their family.

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Speaker 1: Stepping away from that just slightly and taking a look

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Speaker 1: at how this is all going to be managed as

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Speaker 1: well when it comes to you to making sure that

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Speaker 1: people are doing the right thing right around the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territory with these new changes that are going to be

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Speaker 1: implemented from December twenty, is that going to also have

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Speaker 1: an impact on police in the sense that they'll have

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Speaker 1: to police it well.

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Speaker 2: Without a doubt. I mean, we've seen throughout this pandemic

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Speaker 2: they are to go to agency when it comes to

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Speaker 2: enforcement around the chow directions and the requirements for people

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Speaker 2: in the community, and so there's no doubt that'll be

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Speaker 2: the case. But simply don't have the numbers to do that,

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Speaker 2: so it will be challenging. They will no doubt be

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Speaker 2: relying on many people to just simply do the right

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Speaker 2: thing and if, obviously if they get caught and not

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Speaker 2: doing the right thing, there'll be ramifications. But of course

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Speaker 2: we don't have one or two hundred police just sitting

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Speaker 2: there waiting to roll out for further further checks on people,

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Speaker 2: so it'll be a very much a self policing environment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Paul Mcue, we will catch up with you

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Speaker 1: again very soon. We've run out of time. We're so

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Speaker 1: backed up this morning with whiskeys coming on. We will

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Speaker 1: talk to you again very soon. I really appreciate your

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Speaker 1: time this morning. Thank you.