1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Yesterday we learned that interest rates have increased by another 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: quarter of eight percent, jumping to their highest level since 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. So the RBA has lifted rates for the 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: seventh month in a row, with the official cash rate 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: jumping twenty five basis points to two point eight five percent, 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: So homeowners with an average mortgage of seven hundred and 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars will be slugged up to or about 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars extra on their monthly repayments. The Reserve 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: Bank is hoping that its latest move will help to 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: ease those consumer prices, but as things stand, inflation is 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: still expected to peak at about eight percent by the. 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: End of the year. 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: So what are the impacts in this well with this 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: rate rise? What are they going to have? What are 15 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: those impacts going to have when it comes to consumer 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: spending and on local business here in the Northern Territory Well. 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: Joining me on the line is the CEO of the 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: Chamber of Commerce, Greg Island. Good morning to you, Greg. 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: Good morning, Katie, Good morning everyone. 20 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: Now, Greg, there is no doubt that this increase is 21 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: going to have an impact on a lot of people. 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: Is it having an impact though on small business when 23 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: it comes to spending. 24 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 3: Look, certainly is Katie, the fact that increased inflation hits 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: everyone in the back pocket, consumers as well as business, 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: so it has a flow on effect absolutely through the 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: general economy. I think we can consider ourselves a little 28 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: bit lucky that the rate increases is just a quarter 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: of a percent at this point in time. There's several 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: forecasters thinking it was likely to be more. But I 31 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: think we can rest assured that in months to come, 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: those rache will continue to write. 33 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is the worry, isn't it? For so 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: many of us right around the nation and indeed around 35 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: the territory. It's not just your mortgage rates, but cost 36 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: of living in other areas. And I guess what it 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: sometimes means is that if you're not able to pay 38 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: your bills as easily as what you usually would be, 39 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: you don't spend as much money when you're head out 40 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: and about. 41 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: That's absolutely the Katie. As we all know, discretionary spending 42 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: is the first thing that ceases, and that means maybe 43 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: you're not out at a restaurant or the movies, or 44 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: just making that purchase down to local Bunnings or wherever, 45 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: So that will certainly have a flow on effect to 46 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: the retail environment as people tighten their belts in that 47 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: regard as the cost of living does increase. But also 48 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 3: the same thing happens to business itself. It has loans 49 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: and nets to service and they've generally gone up, and 50 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: that potentially means increasing the cost of goods, which adds 51 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: to that inflation rise that we're talking about. So it 52 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: is a bit of a vicious circle there. But I 53 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: think from a territory perspective, we're coming off a off 54 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 3: the back of a very good dry season, so let's 55 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: hope that we can keep a little bit of momentum up. 56 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: We see some tourists through our green season, and that'll 57 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 3: help us get by well. 58 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. It is a bit of a 59 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: like right now is traditionally a slower time. 60 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: As you've said, it's. 61 00:02:59,040 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: The green season. 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: It's also a little bit warmer with the build up, 63 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: and I think we've all been feeling but how have 64 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: things been going for recent you know, for businesses in 65 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: recent weeks, Like you said, we've had a really you know, 66 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 2: bumper dry season, But how has it been over the 67 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: last few weeks. 68 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: And certainly showing signs of slowing down as those temperatures increase, 69 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 3: and I guess that's only natural. But feedback has still 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: been relatively positive that there are still tourists getting around 71 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: town and we're making the most of that opportunity. Or 72 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 3: saw another great, big white boat park down at the 73 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: wharf the other day, so you know, that just means 74 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: more people getting around town and that's good for business 75 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,559 Speaker 3: and good for everybody. 76 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: Greg, I know, one of the nation's most awarded mortgage brokers, 77 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: believes that borrowers do need to rain in there spending 78 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: this Christmas to help to fight inflation. So basically saying 79 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: if we want interest rates to go down, then all 80 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: we need to do. We all need to do our 81 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: bit to help reduce inflation, including raining in spending where possible. 82 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: But Greg, that would indeed have a big impact, you 83 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: know on territory businesses, wouldn't it if everybody's raining it 84 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: right in iver Christmas time? 85 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: Look, it certainly will, and I guess there's a bit 86 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: of moderation required there. We saw the efforts of supporting 87 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: local business during COVID. We know where near that particular situation, 88 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: people will continue to enjoy the opportunities they have to 89 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: mingle and engage with local business in the territory over Christmas, 90 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 3: I'm sure, but you'll certainly see a tightening of belts 91 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: and that will progressively impact us as these interest rates 92 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: do keep rising. They are forecasting eight to nine percent 93 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: CPI increases, so that is a few more points above 94 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 3: where we're at now. 95 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: I mean, what would you say to territories this morning. 96 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: I know that everybody's pretty concerned about about their spending 97 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: and making sure that they're doing things sensibly, but we 98 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: do still want things ticking over. Don't we want businesses 99 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: to be supported? 100 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, I think moderation is the key word there, 101 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: Katie Keeper, balance on what you're doing. Don't stop spending 102 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: because that will hurt the local business community and we 103 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: all need them to be surviving and keeping on ticking. 104 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: We're at a crisis point by any stretch of the 105 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 3: imagination yet, but be aware of contributing into that general 106 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: circular economy. 107 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: How are things going at the moment when it comes 108 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: to the workforce shortage. I know that Brendan O'Connor, the 109 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: federal minister, was in town over the weekend. Any good 110 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: news for the northern territory. 111 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, there's a couple of shoots on the tree, 112 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: so to speak, Katie that we met with Minister O'Connor 113 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: over the weekend and have the opportunity to have that conversation. 114 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: There is a strong focus on building resilience in the 115 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: workforce and that includes activities particularly on the migration side 116 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 3: of things. So the Chamber is part of an arrangement 117 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 3: with Master Builders and also the Minerals Council is looking 118 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: to starting some overseas recruitment drives from next calendar year. 119 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: That'll see very active overseas looking to actively recruit for 120 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: territory businesses. So there'll be some upsides coming. It's just 121 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: a matter of again keeping everything heading in the right 122 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: direction as we head towards the twenty thirty forty billion 123 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 3: dollar economy. 124 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 125 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: Right, So how many staff are sort of looking for 126 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: through that campaign and how quickly could they get started. 127 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: Well, there'll be people in country from early next year 128 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 3: and then they'll be actively looking. There'll be a staged 129 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 3: approach to that particular program, but in the short to 130 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: medium term, two hundred and fifty to five hundred people 131 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: potentially pushing up towards one thousand over the course of 132 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: the program, so pretty significant activity in that space for 133 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: territory business. 134 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: Yeah right, it does sound that way, and Greg, I 135 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: know that. You know, there's been quite a massive investment 136 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: we heard last week of course through the federal budget. 137 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: When it comes to infrastructure spending here in the territory, 138 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: there are still some concerns so when it comes to 139 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: trying to make sure that we've got the workforce to 140 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: carry out some of that work, you know, is that 141 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: something that the Chamber is keeping an eye on too, Lork. 142 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely, we're very keen to make sure that everyone's got 143 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: access to resources that they can. It's going to be challenging, 144 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: but we'll keep working in that direction. 145 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: Hey, Greg, before I let you go, I know that 146 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: crime has been something everybody's been keeping a really close 147 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: eye on. You know, it's always sort of there in 148 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: the background. How things going from your perspective and the 149 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: feedback that you're receiving from local businesses. 150 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, it's certainly still a very high on everyone's 151 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: frustration list. We've seen the formation of a committee down 152 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: in our Springs. It's got a very strong focus on that. 153 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: Meeting number two for that committee is today and I'm 154 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: hopeful that we'll start to see some real flow and 155 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: effects in terms of positive outcome. So certainly watch this space. 156 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: We'll keep as active as we can. 157 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah right, we'll keep an eye on that too. Keen 158 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: to find out how that second meeting goes today. Well, 159 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: Greg Ireland from the Chamber of Commerce, the CEO. Always 160 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: good to catch up with you. I appreciate your time 161 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: this morning. 162 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 3: Thanks very much, Katie, Thank you