WEBVTT - The Epic Rebrand 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:07.680 Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:11.240 hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.920 Sophie Torba and coming up on today's show, Ash Bines 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:18.279 relaunches her podcast as her former bestie spills the Tea 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.280 Party and Spencer Pratt's careers Rise from the Ashes and 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:27.080 Abby Chatfield's shock name Revelation. But first, Matt Sakowski has 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:30.560 dropped some juicy details about his honeymoon with Tammy Hembro 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:34.320 in Lapland. After wowing their followers with stunning vision of 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.720 the northern lights on their tiktoks back in December, Matt 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:41.199 took things a step further on his podcast by revealing 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.839 what actually happened during their once in a lifetime experience, Ky, 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:46.920 can you tell us more? It was definitely a case 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.800 of TMI, so Matt revealed that he and Tammy had 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:53.000 sex under the northern lights. So on the first night 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.840 of their honeymoon, after traveling for over twenty four hours, 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.160 the couple got a wake up call from their tour 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.840 company at around ten pm letting them know that the 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.720 northern lights were visible, so they quickly got dressed and 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:06.000 they followed the lights around, and they stopped to take 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.280 photos in the middle of a frozen lake and other 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:10.400 scenic spots. And it's quite funny because Matt said that 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.800 Tammy started punching the lake to make sure that. 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:14.919 It was frozen, and it really freaked him out. 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:18.160 Anyway, So the couple ended up returning back to their 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.520 hotel in the early hours of the morning, where Matt 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:22.600 says they ticked something off their bucket list. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:23.640 Let's throw to what he said. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.240 We came back to the resort and we went into 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.440 the spa at like two thirty am, and we literally 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:35.160 watched the like the northern lights dancing above us. Yeah, 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.240 made love under the northern lights spa. That's a bucket 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:42.720 list from there to honeymoon. You're pray, So that's a 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:43.400 bucket list thing. 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:45.520 Only making love part we want to hear about. 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:49.040 Yeah, so under the northern lights, that's a cool thing. 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:50.680 To do, and that's pretty That's a pretty good way 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:51.680 to consummate the marriage. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.920 Yeah, it was cute. Yeah, it was nice. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.000 I feel like Anna said what we were all thinking 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:59.920 that it was a bit too much information. I think 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.840 Matt thought that it was okay because it was his honeymoon, 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.280 and that's what's expected on a honeymoon. I wonder how 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.880 Tammy feels about him sharing that personal story. 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.640 Has it made the Daily Mail yet? That's what I 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:11.880 want to know. I don't think anyone really. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.280 Listens to his podcast except us. 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:13.600 Now. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.920 Another thing that surprised me about their honeymoon was just 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.480 how little daylight there was in Lapland. So apparently the 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.400 sun rose at around ten am each day and set 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:26.320 by two pm, so by three pm it was pitch black. 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.800 I know, we were questioning whether the honeymoon was sponsored. 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.079 This doesn't sell Lapland as a location for me, particularly 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.800 for a honeymoon. The fact that there's such limited hours 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.000 when it's live h They did pack a lot into 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:38.880 the hours that they did have, so they went for 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:42.520 reindeer and husky rides. They also wrote on snowmobiles, they 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.000 did horse riding, and also went to a finish sauna. 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.120 It's funny though, because apparently it affected Tammy's body clock 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.919 a lot more than Matt, so she would be sound asleep. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:51.440 By six pm. 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.600 So how they would structure their day is they would 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.040 normally wake up at five am and have a sauna 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:57.960 and then they'd go and put on a Christmas movie 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.760 and play Christmas music, even out of Christmas tree, so 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:02.400 it was very Christmas. 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.480 Centric this honeymoon. I heard that Tammy's face almost got frostbite. 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.200 Yes, it did, so apparently they were I think it 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.960 was on the snowmer bills and Tammy's face was uncovered, 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.120 but Matt was actually wearing a full face ballet clava. 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:14.600 It's like, mate, you should have lent it to her. 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:16.600 I wonder if Matt was able to adapt to the 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.600 weather better because he's from Melbourne and Tammy's from the 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.280 Gold Coastly. He bore the wrong socks. He wore bamboo 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.639 socks when you have to wear thick woolen socks, so 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.200 he did feel it a little bit. I was surprised 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.040 to hear that they ate bear and reindeer, particularly when 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:31.000 this is at Christmas time. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:32.160 How could you eat Roodolph? 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.240 I wasn't shocked about the reindeer because I've heard that 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.480 that is all that is on the menu over there, really, 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.040 because yeah, what I found particularly unusual was how the 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.400 bear was served. So they had it on pizza and 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.040 it was bear salami with blue cheese, and Matt even 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.800 ended up taking home a can of bear meat. 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:50.440 How did that get through customs? 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.160 And that's what I was thinking, And he and his 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.200 step son Wolf tried it on camera and there are 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.360 a lot of Finnish people in the comment saying I've 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.600 never heard of anyone eating bear here, which is that 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.119 seems to happen when people go overseas well. People get 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:03.960 shocked when they come to Australia and they hear that 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.680 we eat kangaroo. Being vegetarian, I find it hard to 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.240 get my head around people eating kangaroo. It seems clear 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.240 to me that Matt and Anna now have a producer 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.640 involved in their podcast, because this new episode seemed a 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.440 little bit different to what they normally put out, because 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.080 it seemed quite obvious that they'd been tasked with talking 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.000 about how Christmas can be quite. 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:24.120 Difficult for couples. 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:28.279 However, Matt didn't really want to elaborate on anything. 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:28.880 To do with the topic. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.400 So Anna was like, oh, you know, we always see 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.760 these perfect Christmas and New Years on Instagram, but the 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.120 reality is that a lot of couples fight over that period. 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.200 Matt, did you have any fights? And He's like, no, 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:39.719 we didn't. 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:41.880 You could tell he had been instructed by Tammy to 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.480 be like, don't say anything about any of our Ya'd 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.120 be pretty stupid to actually divulge any of their arm 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.680 He said, oh, nothing out of the ordinary. So it 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.200 sounded like they had a very quiet Christmas in New Years. 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.280 I mean he did pop back to Melbourne to visit 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.080 his family I think on Christmas Eve, but then caught 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.240 a night flight back so that he could be of 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:01.080 the festivities. 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:01.960 It was a little bit. 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:03.520 Of a last minute decision though he said he was 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:04.160 getting fomo. 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:04.640 Yeah. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.360 He seemed to be handing out a bit of parental 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.160 advice also to Anna macavoy, because we found out over 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.240 the weekend that she is expecting a baby boy. So 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.560 she did a gender reveal on her Instagram and they 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.159 did a segment on their word of the Year, which 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.680 they said that they copied from Mom and mea and 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.720 they wasn't quite the same. And basically part of her 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.359 year is that she wants to go traveling. Oh e 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.400 a newborn, and Matt was like, I don't think you're 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:30.200 going to be doing much traveling. It's like you can't 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.760 even go traveling with kids up to ten years of age. 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:34.840 It's difficult I did have a laugh when I was 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.120 listening to the podcast in the car about that, because 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:38.880 I mean, you only know what you know, and I'm 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.160 not trying to be that person that's like, oh just wait, 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.920 oh oh my god, that is your word to Amy 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.200 and I all the time, and it is annoying as 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.440 someone who is pregnant. A TikTok popped up the other 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:49.800 day and they're like, the worst thing you can say 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:50.840 to a pregnant woman. 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:51.640 Is just way. See. 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.440 I was talking about that with one of my friends 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.000 who's just had a baby as well, and we said 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.760 we hated it when people did it to us, but 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:58.240 now being on the other side of it, we can 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.960 see why just comes across as so smug though, because 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:02.640 you need to let people learn on their own. 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.960 Let them be a bit delusion. Let Adda travel overseas 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:07.159 with her trucks. Some people do. 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:10.040 Yeah, there's been a few influences of podcasters. I know 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.880 Victoria Devine took her baby to Europe. She had no 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.160 trouble and Michelle Battersby were talking about last week how 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.200 she traveled with her six month old son. She's got 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.400 an upgrade. Yeah, I mean, maybe you're doing it wrong. 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.640 I cannot believe some of the that has been spun 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.640 and the lengths that people will go to to just 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:30.360 act like everything is rainbows and sunshines. It's like why. 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:35.520 Ashi Bynes has relaunched her self improvement podcast two months 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:40.279 after her co host, Kiara Durrow left under controversial circumstances, 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.119 as she is back with a new podcast co host 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:47.000 who also happens to be her new bestie. Kiara approved, 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.719 though she's not going to go away, quietly dropping some 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:53.919 juicy details about the friendship breakdown on YouTube. Now before 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.599 we get into it, can you refresh our memory? Sophie 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.279 on what went down well, as she and Kiara hosted 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.040 the Grow and Globe podcast together for around two years 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.080 before they decided to pull the pin, and it was 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.599 clear that something major was going on behind the scenes 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:09.200 because the timing was really off. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:10.120 They were set to. 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.840 Release a new product, but on the day of the launch, 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:16.120 they said that something suddenly came up very Marsha Brady 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:17.440 and the product was delayed. 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:18.760 The pair then. 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.160 Unfollowed each other on social media and released an episode 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.440 announcing Kiara's departure on the show. 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:25.000 Now. 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.080 Kiara claimed she was leaving to focus on her family, 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.360 but it was clear there was more to it after 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.960 she made a bunch of not so subtle digs at 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.600 Ashley on social media. Now, ash went out swinging, saying 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:40.000 she was shocked by Kiara's behavior, and Kiara then pulled 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.640 the ace card organizing a dinner date. 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.720 With all of Ashey's ex best friends. 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:46.720 It's been a lot of fun seeing this all go 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.120 down on social media, and in the new year, ash 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.600 rebranded the podcast with a new co host. So to 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.520 add insult to injury, the show was appearing in the 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.280 same feed that Grow and Glow did, and also the 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.440 social media channels are the same, they've just been rebranded. 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.840 So the new podcast is called She Rises, which seems 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:06.960 to be a bit of a potshot. 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.160 At Kiara Now. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.760 Apparently it took Ashy in her new co host days 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.920 to brainstorm the name. They even went on to chat 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.480 GPT to see what they thought. Well, it's always useful, 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.400 I feel like everyone does, and even if they're in 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.440 marketing now. I mean, while Ashy is calling it a rebrand, 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.120 it really is just the same self improvement style of 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.320 content with a new label slapped on it. 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.120 So the first episode dropped. 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:32.280 Last week and they're releasing three episodes a week, so 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:33.920 on Fridays they're doing something a. 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:34.640 Little bit different. 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:38.040 They're calling it Freaky Friday, and it just seems to 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.800 be a ripoff of Life on Cut segment where they 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:44.719 read out really unfiltered things. To be fair, every podcast 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.040 has an element where they copy something, I mean from 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.360 radio shows. I mean there's so many podcasts now it's 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.160 really hard to be completely original. 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.520 Inspiration, isn't it? Yeah calls it in marketing now. 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:56.960 It's clearly a good format and if Ash is going 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.440 to divulge personal things about her life, I think it 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:00.600 could be a bit of a winner. 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:02.160 So who is the new co host? 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.920 Her name is Tiana, and funnily enough, she's not only 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.800 the co host, but Ashey's new best friend. So she's 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.800 a life coach who has around twenty nine thousand followers 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.280 on Instagram. So that has made me not want to 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.199 tune in to listen to a life coach. I can 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.320 just imagine what the content is going to be like. Well, 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:19.640 that's why I took one for the team and I 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.560 listened to the forty five minute episode. I did have 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.760 her on fast forward, but the pair actually met at 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.920 the gym around six months ago, and they immediately clicked, 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.200 which seems quite similar to the story that Ashi and 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:35.559 Kiara used to tell about their friendship. So apparently they 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:37.559 really bonded over the fact that they were both going 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.800 through relationship breakdown. So for Ashey it was with Kiara 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.480 and for Tiana it was with her boyfriend. It was 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.000 really clear to me listening to the podcast. So Ashy 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:49.000 is very keen to change the image that's out there 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.240 at the moment about her being a really bad friend, 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.839 because there was a lot of talk from Tiana's side 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.800 of things what a great friend Ashy is. And also 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.480 ash kept dropping that she has had the same group 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:00.800 of girlfriends for twenty years. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:01.640 Yeah, because didn't. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.439 As She put up a post where she was out 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:05.960 socializing with all of her school friends, and that came 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.720 after Kiara uploaded the post where she was out with 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.640 all of as She's ex best friends. I can really 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.920 see why, because it's not really the best image to 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.000 be painted in that you can't keep friendships. It's a 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.280 bit of damage control for her. I'm seeing a few 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.439 red flags. Oh the fact that Tiana and as She 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.880 have only been friends for six months now. I don't 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.480 know if I would be diving into a business with 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:27.480 someone I barely know. 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.960 What is clear though, is there's probably been a written 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.240 up arrangement. This is Ash's podcast. At the end of 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:34.040 the day, she's. 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.560 Giving Tiana an opportunity to grow her social media following 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.160 to get her name out there. She knows she has 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.640 to play the co host role. That became very clear 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.880 in this first episode because they were discussing what to 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.520 expect this coming year from the podcast and the need 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.000 for the rebrand, and not only have they increased the 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.320 number of episodes that they're releasing a week, but they 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.520 talked about how they're planning a national tour and that 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.600 they're also holding what they called these intimate events where 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.480 they're going to invite say, twins people to come to 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.560 this very unique event that will never happen again, Like 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.240 each one of these small. 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:07.840 Events are going to be so different from. 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.640 Each other, and they're also going to be releasing their 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:14.280 own online course of course, And to me, seemed like 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.800 they were getting a lot of inspiration from Georgie Stevenson 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.120 because she's got a podcast called Rise and Conker, where 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.120 so the names are quite similar and she has a 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.000 very successful online course. So I think as she's looking 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.079 at this and thinking this is a really good money 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.760 making skill, I think it's normal to take inspiration from 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:32.240 other podcast as, particularly someone like Georgie Stevenson who's been 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:35.680 very successful by launching all of her courses. I also 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:37.319 think it comes down to the fact that her new 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.560 co host is a life coach and a lot of 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.040 life coaches launch courses as well. Just had a bit 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.320 of those MLM vibes to me, and it was quite 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:48.240 funny because they kept referencing the uniform that they now 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.600 wear on the podcast. So before when it was Ashy 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.600 and Kiara, they used to wear like dress up a 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.199 bit and wear suit jackets and try and look a 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.920 bit corporate, whereas now they've gone for the tact to 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.000 call their daddy and they were branded tracksuits. But they 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.000 were kind of talking about it as if it was 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.600 this new, wacky idea, and I'm like, it's. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.000 Just what Alex Kuper does. 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.560 I love that Kiara chose the week of the podcast 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.319 rebrand to share her own juicy Q and A where 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.720 she answered a lot of follow up questions, and of 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.199 course most of them had to do with the fallout 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.560 with Ashy. It's funny because a lot of people have 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.200 been talking about how she's allegedly been slapped with a 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.480 gag order, but it seems like she's a lot more 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:27.480 confident to share what happened. 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:27.880 Well. 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.880 To begin with, Kiara's spoken code a little bit about 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.200 how much better she's feeling now that she doesn't have 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.959 as much pressure on her. So she said the pressure 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.840 made her have raging anxiety, and when asked what her 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.199 biggest lesson of the year was, she said. 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:46.720 This, don't underestimate what people will do with malicious intent. 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:48.600 That's all I have to say. 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:54.400 Don't underestimate. Yeah, and that if you feel like you 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.920 can't be yourself around people, then they're not your people 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.800 and just listen to your guard Like I know I've 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:05.320 said that, but far out, like I knew, my body 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:06.400 showed me signs. 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.320 The image that Kiara is painting of Ashy is in 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.040 complete contrast to what ash is trying to paint of herself. 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.719 And it's funny because I actually watched Kiara's YouTube Q 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:18.959 and A before listening to the podcast, and I just 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.600 kept laughing because it seems like Ashy is so keen 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.440 to push this image of herself that again might not 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.040 be the person that she is behind the scenes. Then again, 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.320 there's two sides to every story as well. Of course, 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.200 someone you have a bust up with, you're gonna not 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.880 paint in a very nice life. I enjoyed how pointed 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:38.400 the answers got as they went along, because Kiara revealed 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.319 that she felt like she was very much on a 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.400 high horse when she was on the Grow and Glow podcast, 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.000 but she said this caused her to lose a lot 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:46.760 of her followers. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:47.040 Yeah. 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.680 I noticed a lot of people in the YouTube comment said, Oh, 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.560 I've actually only started re following you after you left 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.439 ashe Bines's podcast, and I unfollowed you because you were 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.880 on it. So it's quite interesting the detrimental impact that 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:00.560 pairing had on Kiara. 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:00.880 Yeah. 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.240 Well, she even labeled her friendship with Ash as being 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.080 full on and for Kiara, the podcast was meant to 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.720 be this fun side project, but she said that as 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.520 she took it way more seriously. This is what she said, 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:13.840 what really went down? 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:17.000 Do you miss the friendship? I'll just kind of answer 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.800 that second question there. What really went down? Probably more 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.040 than you would think. Yeah, they got very very nasty 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:30.880 at the end, Yeah, hm, I feel like, you know, 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:32.840 obviously we're going through a lot of stuff with Miller. 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.640 And as soon as I started to take a step back, 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:37.400 I'd quit and I said, like I'm done, like I 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.840 want to focus on my family, Like yeah, things just 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.760 started to hit the fan. And I decided from that 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.040 moment on with like, I'm not putting work before my 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.680 family and I'm not caring what other people think or 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.840 who I let down or who I upset, because like, 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:51.720 make kids need me. 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:55.280 My favorite bit of the Q and A was when 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.320 Kiara's husband Kirk came in. He had just got out 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:02.080 of the shower and he gave to ashe's husband Steve. 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.680 Let's throw to what he said. I hope the kids 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:06.240 are well. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.320 And are you still friends with Ashy? 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:09.240 Absolutely not? 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:11.360 Who's that girl? 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.440 Don't know? Not friends with Ashy and definitely not step 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:20.200 friends with Steve either. Friend of you guys could read 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:21.880 the text messages between Curt and him. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:24.920 Oh that was some pretty ruthless things. 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:31.520 Yeah, don't you love when the husbands just say it 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:32.120 how it is. 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.120 When your house burns down, you have nothing in your parents' 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:39.200 house burns down and they have nothing. There's only one 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.680 thing that could maybe make you feel better a bag 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:47.480 of vegels. Obviously, I'm in shock and my brain's not functioning, 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:51.760 so I think this is the most unhinged first you've seen. 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:55.760 Over the last week, the world has watched on in 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:59.160 horror as wildfires have ripped through LA. At the time 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.080 of recording, it's sixteen people have lost their lives and 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.920 more than five thousand homes have been destroyed. The wildfires 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:10.479 have not discriminated, decimating the multi million dollar homes of celebrities, 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:14.560 including Paris Hilton, Adam Brody, and reality stars Heidi and 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.320 Spencer Pratt. Now one of the biggest pop culture stories 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.480 to come out of the fires has been the shock 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:23.240 career resurrection of Heidi and Spencer, who have managed to 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.240 turn their devastation into success. 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:25.600 Yeah. 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.600 I can safely say that one thing I didn't have 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:30.520 on my bingo card for this year was Heidi Montag's 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:34.440 twenty ten album Superficial, being number one on the iTunes 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.880 charts in the US, Canada and Australia. I've actually had 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.160 her single Body Language on a Spotify playlist for years now, 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.040 so I feel ahead of the time. 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.240 It's very nostalgic hearing her old songs. 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.080 I mean it is super techno like, I mean, it's 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.040 barely her voice at this stage. It's a fucking banger though. 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:52.320 And she perform at. 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:55.880 The Victorious Secrets runway show years ago. Yeah, I think 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:57.000 that would have been in twenty ten. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:57.840 And we'll explain in. 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.560 More detail how this has charted so highly. But for 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.360 those gen zeas wondering who the hell are Heidi and 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:07.440 Spencer Pratt Spidey, Yeah, Spidey as they're better known. They 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.879 are from a hit reality show called The Heels and 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.960 this was loved by millennials all around the world. You 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.280 were either team Heidi or Team Lauren. I was on 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.359 Team Lauren at the time. But there's a lot of 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.720 people coming out of the woodwork saying, I think we 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:21.960