WEBVTT - TULLY SMYTH TALKS BIG BROTHER RETURN 

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<v Speaker 1>streaming services today. On the podcast, I have Tully smythe

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<v Speaker 1>who this week re entered the Big Brother House. The

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<v Speaker 1>mother of all reality shows is now well and truly

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<v Speaker 1>into its second week of Mayhem on Channel seven. So

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I would catch up with my friend Tully

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<v Speaker 1>and get the inside scoop on her latest Soisrae back

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<v Speaker 1>on reality TV? I think fans of the show have

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<v Speaker 1>been rubbing their little hands together in anticipation of how

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<v Speaker 1>she will react to ex boyfriend Drew and his new

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with housemates Sam. The nation has been following Tully

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<v Speaker 1>over the last nine years since her Big Brother debut,

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<v Speaker 1>and while her on and off again relationship with Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Drew has well and truly been off for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>This kind of awkward stitch up is where Big Brother

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<v Speaker 1>really shines, as it's the fly on the wall human behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>which Tully does really well. On today's episode, we will

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<v Speaker 1>find out how she felt being asked to return to

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<v Speaker 1>the show, who surprised her the most, where her relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with Drew is now, and we'll also hear a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about her new man, Daniel Perezi. However, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>started with today's guest. I'd like to welcome Tully smythe

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<v Speaker 1>to TV Reload.

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<v Speaker 2>And I actually went in there really happy and excited

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<v Speaker 2>this year.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my twenty first birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Really truly did not think he was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in there.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've invinted housemates both new and legendary.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't make this shit up, Like as Johnson said

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<v Speaker 2>the other night, you can't bite this shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Will experience be enough to take on the next generation

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<v Speaker 3>of housemates.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember what went down back in the day,

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<v Speaker 2>but I knew we had some kind of beef and the.

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<v Speaker 3>New contenders, I wit Big Brother Royalty.

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa and Keeley and the producers must have been just

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there just being like yes, yes, like this is

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<v Speaker 2>all going better than we plan.

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<v Speaker 3>This is big Brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Tully, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi? I'm good man, how are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing really well, very excited to be talking Big

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<v Speaker 1>Brother as always, as you know, I'm always talking Big

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<v Speaker 1>Brother in my sleep, so this is coming very natural

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<v Speaker 1>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I bet you're doing what I was doing last year.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels bizarre to be on the other I really honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>when I did my little mini Big Brother series, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>too much Tully. There is no way to hell. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that I would be on the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>it in a year's time. It's mental.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start by saying something, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>that I've seen you with lots of different I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>you lots of different dates, let's say that, with different

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<v Speaker 1>boys over the last ten years. And I always met

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<v Speaker 1>these boys and thought, oh, there's just I just can't

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<v Speaker 1>see the connection. And then I was lucky to meet

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<v Speaker 1>you with Daniel not that long ago, and straight up

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<v Speaker 1>immediately I could feel the connection.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, very that was my first event back out in

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<v Speaker 2>the real world, so I was all like, oh shit,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the last person I want to see right now,

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<v Speaker 2>like you have this way of this like squeezing and

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<v Speaker 2>getting information out of people. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no no, keep that man away from me. I know

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to hone in on me and he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to know exactly where I've been and what I've been doing.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you met Daniel at some movie premiere, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah it was. It was nice. It was one

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<v Speaker 1>of those gold class ones where we got everything for free,

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<v Speaker 1>which was always really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we love free food.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, he really does bring out this amazing

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<v Speaker 1>quality in you which I've never seen before in the

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<v Speaker 1>ten years that I've known.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's really sweet. You're not the first person to

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<v Speaker 2>say that. He's just he's the biggest darling. He's just

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<v Speaker 2>such got such good energy. He makes everyone in the

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<v Speaker 2>room feel important and special. You know, he'll find at

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<v Speaker 2>a party, he'll find the person standing by themselves and

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<v Speaker 2>by the end of the party their best friends. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very, very lucky to have him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how I knew that you didn't like the

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<v Speaker 1>other boys that you were with that I met along

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<v Speaker 1>the way, was that you were always really mean to them,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you'd be like, oh, this is such and such,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'd say something kind of thing like oh, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then with this guy, you were so protective of

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<v Speaker 1>him straight away and he and likewise he was of you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's where I could see the real magic.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I probably be like that because I was

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<v Speaker 2>probably dating douchebags that deserve that kind of treatment. They

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<v Speaker 2>were probably all just cookie cutters of each other. And

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<v Speaker 2>I probably, yeah, I probably knew that I could do better.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's definitely been worth the way. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>real honey.

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<v Speaker 4>So this time round is definitely about redemption. This is

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<v Speaker 4>my chance to come back to show people who I

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<v Speaker 4>really am, older, wiser, I'm here to play my own game,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm here to win.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here to take it home.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're back on Big Brother nearly ten years later,

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<v Speaker 1>at nine years to be exact, what made you say

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<v Speaker 1>yes to coming back to this show that obviously you're

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<v Speaker 1>so familiar with.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the exact same thing that would have made

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<v Speaker 2>you say yes, Like, I think that if you live

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<v Speaker 2>and breathe Big Brother like people like you and I do,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've watched the show every single season. Then you

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<v Speaker 2>know you have continued to watch it after our seasons,

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<v Speaker 2>like I know that we've both continued to watch the

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<v Speaker 2>new Channel seven edition. Why Like, why would I ever

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<v Speaker 2>say no to that? Like there was not a part

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<v Speaker 2>of me despite everything that went down the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>despite you know, maybe the possible risks. I was never

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<v Speaker 2>I was never gonna say no about question, and I did.

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<v Speaker 2>It took me three seconds, you know. Lisa Farty said

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<v Speaker 2>we'll give you some time. You're gonna need some time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, no, I don't need any time, Like

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<v Speaker 2>why the hell not? Why when I go back and

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<v Speaker 2>do it again? Like there are so many reasons why

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<v Speaker 2>I would go back, you know, like the first time

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<v Speaker 2>didn't exactly go according to plan, and I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>forgot what I was doing and that I was there

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<v Speaker 2>to win some money. And plus also you know, in Melbourne,

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<v Speaker 2>we were smackifying the middle of like, oh, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know seventy fourth lockdown. We were in lockdown when

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<v Speaker 2>I got the call, and so I didn't have any

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<v Speaker 2>other work stuff happening. I wasn't traveling, you know, work

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty slow, and my manager was like, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>could either stay in your house in Melbourne and be

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<v Speaker 2>bored and be stuck in lockdown, or you could go

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<v Speaker 2>stay in a house in Sydney and have an awesome

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<v Speaker 2>fucking time and you know, possibly win a quarter of

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollars. She's like, why would you not do it?

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I was never I couldn't You couldn't you

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<v Speaker 2>get it? Like I how could I have lived with myself?

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<v Speaker 2>How could I have lived myself? If I said no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be for the rest of my life. I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 2>but what if? But what if I'd got in? But

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<v Speaker 2>what if I'd done it? But if what if? I

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<v Speaker 2>would have so many regrets? So yeah, I was never

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<v Speaker 2>going to say no.

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<v Speaker 1>And at what point did you know that it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be an All Star is did you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of know that with inside yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Or when yeah, well, I mean similar to you, like

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<v Speaker 2>that it wouldn't make any logical sense to just invite

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<v Speaker 2>me back. That is such a random housemate to bring

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<v Speaker 2>back on their own, Like, I'm not if you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do that, If you're going to have some like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know, secret intruder or royalty intruder

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that, you'd go for Reggie you go

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<v Speaker 2>for Tim Dormer, you wouldn't bring you know, a B grade,

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<v Speaker 2>C grades housemate back. So I knew when they asked

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<v Speaker 2>me back that they were cooking something up. They obviously

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't confirm or deny. So I had two options in

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<v Speaker 2>my head. One was that it was complete all stars,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a bunch of ex housemates and you know

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<v Speaker 2>I'd probably seen you in there. Or the other option

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<v Speaker 2>was that it might be half half. That they were

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<v Speaker 2>the only two possible options in my head. And then

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<v Speaker 2>it was confirmed when we were doing all the pre

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<v Speaker 2>show stuff that you know we do where we film

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of poses, you know, like the cranky you know,

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<v Speaker 2>folded arms like I'm nominated, and like the cheering, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to challenge you know what I'm talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>And they did this like quick five question game thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the social media and the questions were all around

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<v Speaker 2>past housemates, all of them. They were like name with

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<v Speaker 2>three Big Brother winners. I said, you who said game

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<v Speaker 2>on moles? And I was like you, why are you

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<v Speaker 2>asking me? Why are you asking all this historical stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is so obvious now that I won't be

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<v Speaker 2>the only one. So yeah, there are a few little hints,

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<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't confirmed until I walked into the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Who out of these returning housemates though, that you've now

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<v Speaker 1>just lived with, surprised you the most, Like now that

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the chance of living with them, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they've been in previous seasons, or you've may have been

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<v Speaker 1>in they in the house with them before, But who

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<v Speaker 1>surprised you the most this time? Right out of the

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<v Speaker 1>returning housemates?

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<v Speaker 2>You? What is Stelle? I was dreading that, I really was,

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<v Speaker 2>and she knows this. I've told her. I was really

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<v Speaker 2>dreading that. I can't remember what went down back in

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<v Speaker 2>the day, but I knew we had some kind of beef.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I blocked her on Twitter. I couldn't remember why,

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<v Speaker 2>one of those silly things, you know, And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know about her. I don't know about her.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also knew that I'm an EmPATH as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I'm a bleeding heart, and so I almost

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<v Speaker 2>initially and I told her this after the fact, but

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<v Speaker 2>I almost initially for the first week two weeks just

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<v Speaker 2>avoided her. I was like, because I was worried that

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<v Speaker 2>if I spent too much time with her, I'd fall

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<v Speaker 2>in love with her, and I didn't know whether I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do that. Does that sound weird? I knew

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<v Speaker 2>that if she I knew that if she opened up

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<v Speaker 2>and was vulnerable. And you know what Estelle's like. She's

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<v Speaker 2>raw and she's vulnerable, and she has a heart and

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<v Speaker 2>a sleeve, and she's unapologetically herself and she believes in

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<v Speaker 2>strength and vulnerability. And you know, I love so much

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<v Speaker 2>of what she stands for. We don't have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the same views on a lot of other topics,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, politics, stuff like that. But yeah, she's got

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest heart in the world. And as expected, the

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<v Speaker 2>minute I spent more than three seconds with her, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, God, damn it, you're really and I just

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<v Speaker 2>I feel for you. We've got a lot in common.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've both lost our mums. But Estelle, and

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<v Speaker 2>she is a fucking challenge beast. You wait, you wait,

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<v Speaker 2>she looks scrawny. You think the weird little horse girl

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<v Speaker 2>can't take it home, but she might surprise you.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you immediately think that Drew would be back in

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<v Speaker 1>the house? And when did you start to think producers

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<v Speaker 1>must be setting up a whole history repeating itself sort

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<v Speaker 1>of situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew for a fact that ask they'd be dumb

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<v Speaker 2>not to, But I really, truly, in my heart of hearts,

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<v Speaker 2>thought there's just no way he'd do it. And for

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<v Speaker 2>the same reasons that you know, I know that you

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<v Speaker 2>know Drew personally too, He's just always shied away from it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just always he's never lent in, he's never enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>anything that came with the first time round. He's got

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<v Speaker 2>a great new career in a completely different world, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought there is no way he'd say yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I really truly People think, oh, of course you knew,

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<v Speaker 2>really truly did not think it was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in there, like, really truly was flawed. And I'm kind

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<v Speaker 2>of in a way glad that I didn't know, because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that would have changed my decision.

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<v Speaker 2>It would have at least made me a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>anxious going in there, And I actually went in there

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<v Speaker 2>really happy and excited. So I mean, well played by them,

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<v Speaker 2>like they you can't make this shit up, like as

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson said the other night, you can't bite this shit

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<v Speaker 2>like Plly and Drew back together Sam this girl Sam

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<v Speaker 2>her ex boyfriend Josh, he gets the boot. Sam and

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<v Speaker 2>Drew a hook up. Then I arrived at her birthday,

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<v Speaker 2>like Lisa and Keeley and the producers must have been

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<v Speaker 2>just sitting there just being like, yes, yes, like this

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<v Speaker 2>is all going better than we planned. Like I can't

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<v Speaker 2>even imagine their faces when it all started up to unravel,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, look it is what it is. Can't change

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<v Speaker 2>it now, can I not?

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<v Speaker 1>At all? How do you think this would have played

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<v Speaker 1>out if Drew wasn't already in this relationship with Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to think I assumed that once I

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<v Speaker 2>realized that there were three of us from the one season,

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<v Speaker 2>like there's me, Drew, and Tim from twenty thirteen, that

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<v Speaker 2>is a huge advantage. That should have been a huge advantage.

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<v Speaker 2>We should have bounded together, being impenetrable work together, even

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<v Speaker 2>if we acted as if we all weren't getting along,

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<v Speaker 2>or Tim and I had our bickering brothers sister thing,

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<v Speaker 2>even if we played that out in public that secretly

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<v Speaker 2>were actually you know, water tight, That was a no

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<v Speaker 2>brainer for me. I mean, they're fragile, masculine egos. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what it is that they need. They want

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<v Speaker 2>the spotlight. I don't know what it was, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was very clear to me from day one that

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<v Speaker 2>they had no intention of sticking together, at least with me.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was disappointing because I was like, no one

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<v Speaker 2>else in the house has the connection and the history

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<v Speaker 2>that we three of us have. You're not gonna take

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Really at that point, though, well, I'm quite far into

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<v Speaker 1>the show, so I've seen quite a lot and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really impressed because I know you from watching you the

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<v Speaker 1>first time round, and then I know you as a

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<v Speaker 1>person in the outside world. But I'm watching you on

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<v Speaker 1>the show and I really do feel like and this

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like, really, I don't mean this to same condescending.

0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean this in the nicest way possible. You seem

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<v Speaker 1>like you've grown up quite a lot, and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>express that to you enough with as much generosity as

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<v Speaker 1>as I am right now. And it's quite nice to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Ben. I mean, that's kind of you know.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the big reasons why I wanted to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to prove that, yes, I'm emotional and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not apologe with that anymore. I went in there so

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<v Speaker 2>shook and scarred. Riddle with PTSD to not be the

0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:34.760
<v Speaker 2>crying girl. You know, I say to Tim on my

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<v Speaker 2>first night in the mezzanie, I say, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to cry this season at all. I was so determined

0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.160
<v Speaker 2>to not shed a single tear because I did not

0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.160
<v Speaker 2>want to give all the trolls who say, oh, here

0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.439
<v Speaker 2>we go, she's crying again, typhoon, talie, she's a mess,

0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.040
<v Speaker 2>what a train wreck. I was so paranoid that I

0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:54.360
<v Speaker 2>would just reignite the trolls, and then going through the

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<v Speaker 2>show and watching it back, I'm like, no, you know what,

0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.040
<v Speaker 2>screw you guys like I am? How I am? I

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<v Speaker 2>am emotional. I'm emotional in real life too. I you know,

0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.400
<v Speaker 2>I see a little old man carrying some flowers and

0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I burst into tears. Like I celebrate. I cry for everything.

0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I cry for good things, bad things, other people. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>That's just who I am, and I can't change that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to pretend to me anything different. So

0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.840
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't really, you know, I'd like to think that

0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:25.320
<v Speaker 2>I've grown a lot in the last nine years. I've

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<v Speaker 2>done a lot of work in myself. I've spent a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money on therapy. But that place, it makes

0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:35.360
<v Speaker 2>you regress. Like I went in there being like, I'm strong,

0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm not letting Tim affect me. That's going to be

0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.880
<v Speaker 2>water for Duck's back. But then you get there and

0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:42.840
<v Speaker 2>he's coming for me. He's poking me, he's poking me,

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<v Speaker 2>and suddenly it's like I'm back in twenty thirteen. We

0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.120
<v Speaker 2>keep saying, you know, when like you go home and

0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.880
<v Speaker 2>you use your family house for Christmas, and even though

0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.400
<v Speaker 2>you're a grown ass fucking adult, you go home and

0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.960
<v Speaker 2>suddenly you're like, Dad, make me eggs. I can't make

0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.360
<v Speaker 2>my own eggs. You know, you just regress. I feel

0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.920
<v Speaker 2>like we just regress back then. And maybe that was

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<v Speaker 2>because they had Tim around me, you know, repeating behaviors.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe if I didn't have the boys, I could have

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<v Speaker 2>shown more of that. But I'm glad because I know

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<v Speaker 2>you have seen quite a bit of the show. I

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<v Speaker 2>obviously haven't. I'm glad that that's coming across. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>how it felt. But you just never know what they're

0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:14.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna you know, show.

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<v Speaker 1>But even still, the manusa I mean is that I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the right term, the manusa of the love

0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.680
<v Speaker 1>of you on this show, the love and that you know,

0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:24.400
<v Speaker 1>the lovers and haters of you in the show, but

0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:29.400
<v Speaker 1>even everyone in that category makes you great television. So

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<v Speaker 1>as much as we say we don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we are, sometimes that's just what has

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<v Speaker 1>made us connect with an audience.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, I remember, I'll never forget. It's so

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<v Speaker 2>bizarre that it's so clear in my head. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why. It's such a you know, light bulb moment.

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<v Speaker 2>But Tardy Anderson, who was in my series, who at

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<v Speaker 2>the time of going to the show, was already working radio.

0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.360
<v Speaker 2>She was already kind of doing what I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be doing. She'd had a bit of media training, she'd

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<v Speaker 2>kind of, you know, done that thing a little bit beforehand.

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<v Speaker 2>And she said to me one day, She's like, tells,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be polarizing. People are either gonna love you

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<v Speaker 2>or hate you, but they're the people that will do

0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:07.880
<v Speaker 2>the best, the people that will do well. You will

0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:10.080
<v Speaker 2>have so much love and yeah, you'll have hate, but

0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.640
<v Speaker 2>you're going to be great regardless. And it was funny

0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.960
<v Speaker 2>because it was this really kind of like moment of

0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:16.840
<v Speaker 2>self awareness, and I was like, wait, people are gonna

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<v Speaker 2>hate me? Why people gonna hate me? And you're like.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, why wouldnone hate me? I'm an ape,

0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm a darling, Like, why would anyone hate me? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you're also a polarizing character.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I will never forget, Alex Meverdyke is saying to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Before it even gone on stage to do the finale,

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<v Speaker 1>I was still in the house and they put me

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<v Speaker 1>in a car with Sonya Krueger, and Sonya looked at

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<v Speaker 1>me and was like, you know, I'm not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you yet. And so we're in this car

0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.200
<v Speaker 1>together and Alex Medverdyke is the producer, turns around and

0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.400
<v Speaker 1>says to me, Ben, you are not Reggie the Fish

0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:50.840
<v Speaker 1>and Chip ship Shop winner. You are just as hated

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<v Speaker 1>as you are liked. So when you get on stage,

0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.000
<v Speaker 1>don't be all like, hey, I'm amazing, because he's like,

0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.360
<v Speaker 1>there's people out there that are really pissed off that

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<v Speaker 1>you've won.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta love Alex mav and he's like tough love,

0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.240
<v Speaker 2>don't you like? He just gives it to you straight,

0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Like I remember when I came out the first time

0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.280
<v Speaker 2>and he you know, he's he's giving you a speech

0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.120
<v Speaker 2>and you're getting miked up. I had some guy put

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<v Speaker 2>his hand down my dress and you know, loop something

0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.720
<v Speaker 2>around my head. And all I said to him was,

0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.959
<v Speaker 2>is Tylia here? And he said, fuck Tali, I who

0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.920
<v Speaker 2>does the fuck about Tarli tonight? You're not You're a star,

0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.320
<v Speaker 2>you were a star and there you go out on

0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.920
<v Speaker 2>that stage and you fucking own it. It is your night.

0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.040
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, yeah, yeah, okay, right, all right,

0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:30.960
<v Speaker 2>yeah I go do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's a little champion of the evils though, isn't he.

0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Don't you think he's a champion of the evils?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just love that man so much, Like I

0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.280
<v Speaker 2>wish he could have been involved this time round, Like

0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.160
<v Speaker 2>he's obviously very very busy doing Love Island and I'm

0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.119
<v Speaker 2>a celeb. But yeah, he's he isn't always will be.

0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:48.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, he's the actual big brother. He's our dad.

0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, he has Zaddy.

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<v Speaker 1>For all of us. Did you think it was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit cruel?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.600
<v Speaker 1>And I'm finding a bit cruel to watch you having

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<v Speaker 1>to watch Sam and Drew's relationship evolve. I mean, at

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<v Speaker 1>this stage of where I am up to in the show, Oh,

0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel sorry for you. I'm like, you know, this

0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:06.760
<v Speaker 1>is almost mean. I mean, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just awkward. Like, it's just awkward. I'm not hurting,

0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sitting there like crying into my pillow. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not jealous, I'm not bitter, I have no feelings towards through.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, if anything, living with the guy full time

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<v Speaker 2>just really reinforced why we didn't work and how much

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<v Speaker 2>better my current boyfriend, Daniel is like, I can't even

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<v Speaker 2>tell you it was. It was the cheapest form of

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<v Speaker 2>therapy they've done in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>What poun does it feel living with your ex boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I'm not gonna lie, it's a bit awkward. I

0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.119
<v Speaker 2>think they're actually very well suited and it's quite sweet

0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:45.560
<v Speaker 2>most of the time, but being all cute, romantic.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally directly opposite me, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like I feel like a creep. But it's just awkward.

0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.360
<v Speaker 2>It was awkward for them, it was awkward for me. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said the other night, I felt like that

0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.800
<v Speaker 2>crazy ex girlfriend it doesn't get the message, and like

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<v Speaker 2>it's just hanging around. Like I would wake up and

0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:05.199
<v Speaker 2>come out to the kitchen to try and make some

0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.400
<v Speaker 2>breakfast and they'd be like making out on like the stovetop,

0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.919
<v Speaker 2>and I'd be like, sorry, guys, don't mind me just

0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:15.280
<v Speaker 2>trying to eat my breakfast in our share house we

0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:18.200
<v Speaker 2>all live in. And as you know, and as you

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<v Speaker 2>know my now I haven't only seen a lot of

0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.040
<v Speaker 2>the bedrooms, but my bed was the last bed left.

0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.360
<v Speaker 2>I didn't really have much of a choice. And it's

0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:29.520
<v Speaker 2>next to sound opposite Drew, So you know, I to

0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.040
<v Speaker 2>say I was up against it from day one would

0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.960
<v Speaker 2>be an understatement, and so you know, it was a

0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:38.040
<v Speaker 2>difficult time. It was. It was so much fun, but

0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:41.720
<v Speaker 2>it was also hard and isolating, and you know, I'd

0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:43.520
<v Speaker 2>go and I was already coming in late, and I

0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:45.320
<v Speaker 2>was trying to make new friends, and the newbies were

0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.639
<v Speaker 2>so strong and so impenetrable, Like I just felt like

0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I was never going to crack them. I really did,

0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I was. I remember crying one tame shock in the

0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:54.840
<v Speaker 2>dining room, saying, I'm never going to be able to

0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.600
<v Speaker 2>get through to them. They're just like stone walling me.

0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:00.320
<v Speaker 2>I'd go outside and try and start a conversation, but

0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Sam and Drew would be there, and then so it's

0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:05.840
<v Speaker 2>in what would not be weird for any other combination

0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.320
<v Speaker 2>of people. I suddenly thought like maybe I shouldn't sit

0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.359
<v Speaker 2>down maybe I should give this some space. Am I

0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.119
<v Speaker 2>allowed here? Am I welcome here? All that kind of

0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.399
<v Speaker 2>dynamic on top of everything else that you're dealing with

0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.200
<v Speaker 2>in the house, which is awkward.

0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:19.560
<v Speaker 1>What is your relationship then, like with dr I mean,

0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:21.320
<v Speaker 1>do you reckon that going back into this Big Brother

0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:23.600
<v Speaker 1>experience and having it be what it is like? Is

0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:25.520
<v Speaker 1>it changed the way in which you two interact in

0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:27.600
<v Speaker 1>the outside world now? I mean no spoilers, we don't

0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:29.480
<v Speaker 1>talk about you know, where you or Drew come in

0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:33.960
<v Speaker 1>the competition. But has that therapye in your words, changed

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship now outside of that show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean we don't really talk a whole lot

0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:41.359
<v Speaker 2>generally when we're both dating other people, the coms just

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<v Speaker 2>naturally die off, just naturally. You know, he's very happy,

0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm very happy. So generally they've we don't really talk

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<v Speaker 2>as much as we did beforehand. But I think and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much have seen, but we go

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<v Speaker 2>through a full like you know, three sixty. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not getting along. They haven't shown him very much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was not very nice to me in those

0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:06.000
<v Speaker 2>first two weeks. I'm going to say we're not getting along.

0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:08.959
<v Speaker 2>We're constantly bickering. It gets to the point where like

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<v Speaker 2>I felt sorry for the other housemates because I'm like,

0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry you having to deal with us just

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<v Speaker 2>constantly coming for each other. And then we have a

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<v Speaker 2>chat and I'm just basically like, look, we're friends, We've

0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:21.040
<v Speaker 2>been friends for nine years, Like, can we not just

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<v Speaker 2>get along? Like this is embarrassing, this is ridiculous. I'm

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.119
<v Speaker 2>not you know, we're on the same team. Can we

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<v Speaker 2>just any stupid? Yeah? And we did, and we did

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<v Speaker 2>and honestly got better from there. So we Yeah, we've

0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:36.960
<v Speaker 2>come full circle. But yeah, we don't really chat as

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<v Speaker 2>much as we used to anymore, just because we're both

0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:41.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, happy and doing our own things.

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<v Speaker 1>You call him by his real name on the show, Anthony,

0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:46.400
<v Speaker 1>which is you know, well I call him in real

0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:48.280
<v Speaker 1>life as well. And when I saw it happening on

0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 1>the television, I was eating and I went, like, what

0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>I do that? Like, no, probably not, I probably not.

0:21:57.920 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I never got pulled up for it, but I think

0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:01.439
<v Speaker 2>I do that when he's to get it, like when

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<v Speaker 2>he's in trouble, and I also kind of do it.

0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:08.040
<v Speaker 2>I also kind of do it to be like you

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<v Speaker 2>might be able to bullshit and smise and smooth your

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<v Speaker 2>way around everybody else in here. But I know you,

0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I know you, Anthony Douglas Drew, and your shit ain't

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<v Speaker 2>gonna fly here. I think it's just more like, just

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<v Speaker 2>remember that you can't pull your usual bullshit on me.

0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Your charm doesn't work anymore. Honey, You're not that attracted this,

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's why I would drop the Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>I still think he's really hot. Honestly, I don't know

0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.680
<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with me, but I feel like I subscribe

0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:40.480
<v Speaker 1>to like some sort of Anthony Drew a fan club,

0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:43.399
<v Speaker 1>and I can't stop myself so weird. And he's not

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<v Speaker 1>even nice in this series. Like I'm watching him and

0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you know what is going on? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen a bad thing come out of this

0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:54.640
<v Speaker 1>man's mouth. I've never seen anything problematic about him at all.

0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:57.720
<v Speaker 1>And then he's still jarring on me this he's now

0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:00.359
<v Speaker 1>jarring on me, and I still think he's really I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's wrong with.

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<v Speaker 2>It, do you know what it is? I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>just we're all just old and cranky. We're just getting old.

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Our patience is wearing thin. You know, we don't have

0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:12.000
<v Speaker 2>we don't have the innus anymore to you just smile

0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:14.080
<v Speaker 2>and pretend everything's funny. I think he just has a

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:16.160
<v Speaker 2>short views and a short temper, you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they didn't do as straight. All Stars was

0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:21.639
<v Speaker 1>because most people, if they did it, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>like a retirement village, big Brother, like everyone's too old.

0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:27.760
<v Speaker 1>So they're like, we have a whole bunch of newbies

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<v Speaker 1>in there to balance the age out.

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<v Speaker 2>Richie was quite often in bed at about three PM,

0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:34.960
<v Speaker 2>and that's where she'd stay for the rest of the night.

0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Like I felt like I was visiting my parents, you know,

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:39.880
<v Speaker 2>WILLI walcome chocolate factory like we were like we would

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<v Speaker 2>bring her dinner to bed. She would be lying in

0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:45.879
<v Speaker 2>bed with her donner right up to her, just just

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:47.120
<v Speaker 2>watching everything like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we would all take.

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 2>You to turn to bring her either her dinner a

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:53.160
<v Speaker 2>water bottle of tea, and she'd just stay in bed

0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 2>for the rest of the day, obviously because you can't sleep,

0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:59.520
<v Speaker 2>but just in bed.

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I did that from Christy's one, though apparently Christie's one

0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:04.919
<v Speaker 1>and Reggie spent most of their time in that the

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>original time that they were in the series. They spent

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 1>it in bed together just talking absolute smac so you know,

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's on brand for her.

0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:16.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she had a lot like us oldies. Oh.

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:20.360
<v Speaker 2>In fact, yeah, we were injured. There was some serious injuries.

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 2>We were having the physiocome quite regularly, poor Reggie, so

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 2>probably also added to it. But yeah, she's it's there

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<v Speaker 2>the best.

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<v Speaker 1>The relationship between you and Tim is quite interesting. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting dynamic, to say the least. What do you

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 1>think is the driving force behind your problematic relationship?

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:43.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's such a long question, such a broad question.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I think that I am the same person

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.119
<v Speaker 2>outside the house and inside the house, whereas Tim flips

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 2>the switch and goes in the game mode.

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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised watching back how many people didn't like you.

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were in with we all. I thought

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I was the only person. Wait for the punchline, there

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>isn't one.

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 2>He's just been Tim in the real world. It can

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.879
<v Speaker 2>be a really beautiful, loving, thoughtful friend. And we've got

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 2>on holidays together, we've had dinners together, we've traveled together.

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 2>And so I thought, going back in the house this time,

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.199
<v Speaker 2>after everything we've been through together, in our private lives,

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 2>we would be tight. And then as everyone saw last night,

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 2>no no, apparently not apparently, no, no, nothing's changed. Honestly,

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:40.400
<v Speaker 2>it's fine. Similar to the trolls. By this point, Tim,

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 2>and he's poking and his you know, jabs and the manipulation.

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 2>It's white noise to me. It literally goes in one

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:51.400
<v Speaker 2>ear and out the other. You saw with me last

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:53.680
<v Speaker 2>night with the bats. He was trying to like, he

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 2>was trying to poke some more and trying to and

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, Tim, there's no point talking to you.

0:25:57.640 --> 0:25:59.439
<v Speaker 2>There's just no point talking to you. So I'm not

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:03.160
<v Speaker 2>going to talk to you. So look, if people find entertaining,

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't bother me, it doesn't upset me. It's never malicious,

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 2>it's there's always love behind it. So let Tim be Tim, like,

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, if it makes him, if he's enjoying himself, like,

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 2>let him do what he wants to do. I just

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 2>it would be nice if he could be as kind

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 2>to me in the house as he is in the

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 2>outside world. That would be nice. Like just just be real, dude,

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:26.919
<v Speaker 2>Like do you like me? I think you like me?

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Can you just be nice to me? I don't know

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 2>sound's going on.

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I love that you and Laila had a connection inside

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the show, even though we didn't see it, but over

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>the history of me being friends with you both. Sometimes

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 1>people try and rewrite history and you guys forget the truth.

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:43.119
<v Speaker 1>And so when Tim said to you last night, you know,

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>he didn't realize how many people in the twenty thirteen

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.160
<v Speaker 1>series didn't like you. That wasn't true because I interviewed

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 1>everyone that came out of the show and I and

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I just don't remember anyone saying anything that bad. I

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:56.479
<v Speaker 1>thought you were very popular inside the house throughout your

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 1>time and that.

0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:58.479
<v Speaker 2>I think what he was trying to do in that

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:01.400
<v Speaker 2>moment is undermine me to the newbies. I think he

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:04.119
<v Speaker 2>was putting out a warning, like just in case you

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 2>got because if you notice, I was actually having some

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 2>really good chats with Gabby and Estelle in that time.

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I think what he was doing was out loud so

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 2>everyone could hear I'm still top dog, don't you know.

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Don't fall in love with Tully too much. People didn't

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:21.679
<v Speaker 2>like her last time, so maybe you shouldn't. You know.

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 2>He was just trying to create doubt and suspicions.

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:28.360
<v Speaker 1>It's trying to fill your boat a bit.

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was trying to fill your mind with insecurity

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>about you know, I guess, And that's a good tactic

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:35.679
<v Speaker 1>to have him. Mean, he's still he's great television, Like,

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 1>no matter what happens inside or outside of the world,

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I still love watching him on television.

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:43.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he is hands down one of, if not

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 2>the best Big Brolla players in the history. And I

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 2>say that as someone who has had to live with

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.360
<v Speaker 2>him both time rounds, so that is a truly compliment.

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So something I ask everyone who joins the podcast

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:55.959
<v Speaker 1>is what something from behind the scenes that we as

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>an audience didn't see that we won't see from behind

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>the scenes of your experience on the latest Big Brother.

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I hope you do see this. I don't think

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 2>you will because we're singing and as we know, we're

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 2>not allowed to sing. But my favorite best memory night

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.880
<v Speaker 2>it was so much fun. It was late at night.

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 2>We often, you know, with the brother would tend the

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 2>lights off to try and make us better sleep, and

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>we would often not be ready to go to sleep,

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 2>and we were all on my side of the bedroom,

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 2>so the OG's side of the bedroom, and we just

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 2>started getting into like a queen sing a lot, and

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 2>we were just giving it out all Someone jumped up

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 2>on like the closet the wardrobe space and was like

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 2>we were just all screaming and singing and dance in

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 2>complete darkness. Sorry Reggie had a flashlight. It was like

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 2>creating like a disco ball kind of effects and we

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 2>were just having the best time. And then Lulu, who

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 2>is just such a character, Lulu who loves karaoke, loves it,

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 2>talks about it all the time, has a karaoke machine

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 2>in her house, you see it in her backstory. We

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 2>all just sort of stopped for a bit, like all

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 2>like sitting around like laughing and so, and out of nowhere,

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Lulu goes, okay, okay, one more song. I'll do one

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 2>more song. No one had asked her to do another song.

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 2>And she gets up and starts singing Mallorie by Amy

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Whitehouse and it was just the funniest moment. Were like, Lila, literally,

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>no one's asking you to sing, But it was just

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 2>it was one of those really pure war moments where

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 2>nobody was on teens. There was no newbies, no OG's,

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 2>there was no stratch chat. We were all just people

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 2>human beings living in a house having fun, and that's

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 2>the kind of stuff that they're, you know, the real

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Diehabby Brother fans want to see more of. They're the

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 2>memories that are my favorite from both seasons and they

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 2>probably can't show it, but my god, I hope they

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 2>do because it was just it was. It was the

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 2>funniest best night, absolutely highlight.

0:29:57.480 --> 0:29:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, your boobs are back. Let me tell you that

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a little teas for you coming up in the

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>next few episodes. And it wouldn't be a season of

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Big Brother without Tully's boobs.

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, I funny lose six kgs and

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 2>let go they disappear.

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, no, no, they look good.

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Pack My rig was suddenly really great. It was amrosing.

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I was living on apples and eggs anyway, Ben, so

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 2>nice to chat. Thanks so much for having me on.

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. You were fantastic. It's great to

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>have you back on Big Brother. It wouldn't be a

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Big Brother without you. So I'm in your audience and

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to watch and see how it all

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>plays out.

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Thanks man, I appreciate it. Good luck with the part

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I could want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen okay, amazing, look after yourself, enjoy Darwin.

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<v Speaker 2>Hkay no thanks, bye bye,