1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Do you know if you get enough iodine in your diet? 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Do you know what iodine is or what it does? 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: On today's episode of The Nutrition Couch, which have all 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: things iodine, what it is, what it does and why 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: it is so important for women's health. Hi, I'm Susy 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Burrow and I'm Leanne Wood and each week we bring 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: you The Nutrition Couch, the weekly podcast that keeps you 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: up to date on everything you need to know in 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: the world of nutrition as well as iod We have 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: some new research that takes a closer look at meal 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: timing versus calorie intake and whether intimately fasting is a 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: benefit when it comes to weight loss. 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: Leah has a. 14 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: Nutrition Lisamart baking product that she wants to talk about, 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: and our listener question is all about snap bars and 16 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: specifically nut bars, So Leanne. 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: Out of interest. 18 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: It is actually National Thyroid Aware this month and on 19 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: The Nutrition Couch. We have talked about thyroid health before 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: almost a couple of years ago, but I don't think 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: that we've actually she's specifically taken a closer look at 22 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: the role of iodine and thyroid health, and specifically iodine 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: in our diets because Australians are actually at extremely high 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: risk of thyroid disease. 25 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: It's thought that there's up. 26 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: To a million people who have or have undiagnosed thyroid 27 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: disease in Australia, which is actually huge, and one of 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: the key reasons for that is that our intake of 29 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: the micronutrient iodine is actually pretty low because our soil 30 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: is very low in iodine as a whole country, and 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: specifically even people who live in rural areas are at 32 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: much higher risks than people in city areas. So again 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: that's to do with the environmental exposure that we have 34 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: to the nutrient. 35 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: And we've spoken about this before as well. 36 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: In the old days, they used to clean dairy equipment 37 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: with a solution that contained iodine, and so we would 38 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: naturally get it in our dairy food. But they've actually 39 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: changed some of those processing techniques and we don't get 40 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: as much as we did from dairy and hence we're 41 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: seeing this dramatic rise with thyroid dysfunction. Now, the thyroid 42 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: gland is basically our central regulator of metabolism and it 43 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: produces hormones that have very powerful roles in metabolic function, 44 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: and that's why people have thyroid issues. They can lose weight, 45 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: they can feel very cold, they can even be gainy 46 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: weight feel sluggish because it has this crucial role of 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: metabolism and the balance of these thyroid hormones dictates that 48 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: and those hormones require this nutrient iodine in very small 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: amounts that it's crucial. If that doesn't get it, basically 50 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: it doesn't function optimally. And hence the issue with consuming 51 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: adequate amounts of iodine in the diet is really really important. 52 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: And unlike nutrients like iron, where you think I need 53 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: to eat more meat or calcium, I need to have 54 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: more dairy. I did feel a little bit of a 55 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: tricky one because whilst we don't need a lot of it, 56 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: it's not in very many foods. So recently when I 57 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: pend aintical on bread, I had a response from an 58 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: expert in thyroid health and he said to me that 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: I should have mentioned that our bread in Australia is 60 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: fortified with id which has played a big role in 61 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: the health of thyroid for Australian women. And yes, bread 62 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: and actually milk is still relatively rich sources of that 63 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: key nutrient, but nutritionally, probably the foods that it's important 64 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: to know it's in richest amounts in is actually our seafood. 65 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: So that's why we're often recommending a diet that's hiring seafood. 66 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: So any kind of shellfish, fish itself, even seaweed are 67 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: very rich sources of ID. So if I'm sort of 68 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: talking to someone about thyroid health, I'll often be talking 69 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: about increasing the amount of seafood and aiming for that 70 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: seafood in the diet two to three times each week. Certainly, 71 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: if I've got clients who are choosing a plant based 72 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: diet and choosing plant based milks and oat milk, they're 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: they're milks that don't contain any so unlike dairy milk, 74 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: which may still have some in it through the processing techniques, 75 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: plant milks have none. And hence, if you're sort of 76 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: having a diet that you're adjusting for various reasons all 77 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: for example, have a gluten free diet or choosing sour 78 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: dough tope lives, they may not always have that fortified flour, 79 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: so you may also not be getting it that way. 80 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: So I do tend to save to my clients in general, 81 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: I like you to use an iodie salt that's like the. 82 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: Little one with the green. 83 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: Now again, if people are using more natural salts, they 84 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: might be doing Himalayan salt, or they might be doing 85 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: different types. Again won't necessarily have the iodine in it, 86 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: which is why it can be sometimes good to actually 87 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: seek out the one that has the iodine in it. Now, 88 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: of course people will say it's not good to add 89 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: salt to food. Well, my opinion on that is, in general, 90 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: it's much better to have a diet that is nutritionally balanced. 91 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: And if you, for example, eat large amounts of salad 92 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: and vegetables in season you're dressing with a bit of. 93 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: Salt, the benefits out weigh the negative. 94 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: So a high salt diet's a problem when your diet's 95 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: packed full of ultra processed foods. But when the bulk 96 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: of your diet is fresh, natural, unprocessed foods that you're 97 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: cooking at home, using a little bit of salt for 98 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: seasoning once a day is no cause for concern. And 99 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: certainly for my women of child bearing age feeding trying 100 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: to get pregnant, because suboptimal id intake has profound effects 101 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: in pregnancy, you certainly want to go into a pregnancy 102 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: knowing that you're getting an iodine intake, which is also why, 103 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: of course a lot of pregnancy supplements have id in 104 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: them at the moment. But it's something I think just 105 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: to talk about because, as I said, if you're someone 106 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: who naturally ers towards plant based milks, if you're not 107 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: eating a lot of bread. 108 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: Or choosing a sort of Atesian loaf. 109 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: Not adding much salt, you know, it's quite possible you're 110 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: one of those many people getting inadequates amounts of this 111 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: important nutrient in your diet. 112 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. 113 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 4: Like you said, it's pretty prevalent in seafood, but I 114 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: have so many clients who just had a preference don't. 115 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 3: Enjoy seafood, particularly. 116 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 4: The ones that are really high in id in, such 117 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: as prawns and muscles and noises. Like I myself like prawns, 118 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 4: but I don't really ever cook with them. Like I'll 119 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 4: have some if I go out to like a beautiful 120 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 4: seafood restaurant or something like that, or if it's Christmas Day. 121 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 4: You know, I was these loved prawns on Christmas, but 122 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 4: it's not something that I regularly use as a protein 123 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: sauce during my meal prep. And like you said, I 124 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: tend to go for more of those beautiful artias you know, 125 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 4: loaded seed sourdo type loads. So it's an interesting, I 126 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 4: guess topic to consider because it is one of those 127 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 4: micronutrients that we don't really think about. But you and 128 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 4: I come across ladies all the time that have issues 129 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 4: with their thiroid functions. So it is something that is 130 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 4: talked about pretty heavily in pregnancy, but the minute, you know, 131 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 4: you pop the baby out, nobody sort of mentions it again. 132 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: But we do know that thiro dysfunction, particularly in that 133 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 4: postpart and period, is actually, you know, on the rise 134 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 4: in women. I actually myself had a bit of a 135 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 4: i would say issue with my thorough like it was 136 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 4: very overactive, that it was very underactive after my first 137 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: pregnancy with me, so I've had that fairly closely monitored 138 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: after my pregnancy with Tilly as well, So it is 139 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 4: something that is more on the rise. So good to 140 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: have these conversations. And I didn't even know there was 141 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 4: in time month dedicated to you know, thorough hotels, So 142 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 4: that's that's awesome as well. 143 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 3: You taught me something new today. 144 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: It is good because I think so many women going 145 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: through these years of small children working full time, our 146 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: health is often way down the list of priorities because 147 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: you're in survival mode, you know, so frequently. So I 148 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: think it's just always good as a bit of a 149 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: reminder to say, oh, hang on, you're right, I don't 150 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: have I. 151 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: Have almond milk, I don't need a lot of. 152 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: Bread, and I certainly don't add a lot of salt, 153 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: and hang on, I'm not feeling great and this is 154 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: something that affects our well being on a day to 155 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: day basis. So, as I said, we often talk about 156 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 1: thyroid health and people will email us and say, look, 157 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: I've got an undirective thyroid what diet should I be having? 158 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: But for all of us our general health, making sure 159 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: you're getting a server I would say, an id rich 160 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: food at least once a day. So if you're a 161 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: seafood in amazing, you know, reach for the shelf which 162 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: have your smoke choices or smoke muscles, or get the 163 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: garlet prawns in the supermarket. If you do like sushi 164 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: and sashimi, you know, get the seaweed snacks. They're fantastic sources. 165 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: But if you are not someone who likes any of 166 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: those foods or just doesn't eat overly well because you're 167 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: so busy with all your other commitments in life. One 168 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: of the best things that you can do is, you know, 169 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: season you're dressing once a day with an iidy soult 170 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: or take a general Women's Health multivider and that contains 171 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: id just to tick that box. And you know, you 172 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: and I are often sort of thinking or sharing with clients, Oh, 173 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: you don't need supplements. But in the case of you 174 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: know that your nutritions compromise just because there's a huge 175 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: pressure on your time, there's nothing wrong with taking a 176 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: general multivitamin even every second act to tick the box 177 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: on those nutrients. Particularly if you are maybe siliac, maybe 178 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: you are vegan, your plant based, you can't tolerate dairy. 179 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: They're all signs that you perhaps would benefit from a 180 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: general women's multi vitamin that contains nutrients like iodine, just 181 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: to tick the box on that. 182 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: You know, that's a lot of people. Add a million. 183 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: Australians with undiagnosed viral issues like that's a big problem. Now, 184 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: I wonder people aren't feeling overly great, particularly coming into winter. 185 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: Vitamin D will also suffer, so even though there's loads 186 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: of food around it doesn't always mean that we're getting 187 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: those key nutrients, and yeah, in Australia, it's interesting that 188 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: that is one that really pops up. So yeah, it 189 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: is Thyroid Health Awareness Month. If you know that your 190 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: yroil's been at risk in the past, get to your 191 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: GP to have a check. We always suggest gabbing an 192 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: add your check up if you're a woman anyway, for 193 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: your hormones and any signs of fatigue. 194 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: But it's a good reminder of all of us. 195 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: If you're not feeling your best, it could be a 196 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: thyrom and it's certainly worth checking out. 197 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: Particularly if you are in that postpartum period. 198 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 4: I myself have booked in my blood tests for a 199 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: couple of weeks time. I think it's a really depleting 200 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 4: time in your life. Why it's not just id in 201 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 4: and thyroid that you need to be aware of. There's 202 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: so many macro and micro nutrients that women are failing 203 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 4: to meet a during pregnancy, but also just due to 204 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: the demands of that postpartum period which can actually go 205 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: on years. 206 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 3: I did a little update on. 207 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 4: My postpartum fat Lost Journey online yesterday Susie and I 208 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: had so many women being like is nine month still 209 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 4: considered postpartum's two years postpartum my kids five? 210 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: Is that okay? 211 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 4: That postpartum period doesn't really have a you know, define 212 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: number on it in you know, what I would consider 213 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: as the postpartum period. I don't think it's you know, 214 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 4: only the first eight weeks or only the first six 215 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 4: months or anything like that. I think if you're tired 216 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 4: and you're rundown, you're not sleeping well, you're busy, you're 217 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 4: caring for everybody else, you're still in the throes of that, 218 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: you know, you know, postpartum slash early childhood period. So 219 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 4: you still need to be really considerate of those choices, 220 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: and particularly also if you have either a family history 221 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 4: of or you yourself have an autoimmune condition. Autoimmune diseases 222 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 4: are actually very closely linked with thyroid disorders, so really 223 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 4: be extra conscious of your idine intake if you, of 224 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 4: course have a thiroid issue, or if you have another 225 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 4: type of autoimmune disease, because once you've got one autoimmune disease, 226 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 4: you're actually more likely to potentially develop a further one 227 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 4: later on down the track. So between your gut health 228 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 4: and just trying to do things like reducing levels of 229 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 4: inflammation and that sort of thing in your body. They 230 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 4: are two of the best things you can do to 231 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 4: just support your body, to maximize nutrition awareness, to reduce 232 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 4: those risks of autoimmune conditions and potentially thiroid disorders later on. 233 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: All right, well, there's some new research lean all about 234 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: intermit and fasting that got a little bit of attention. 235 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: It was actually published in quite a significant journal. I 236 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: think it was in and Ailes of Turtle Medicine. A 237 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: close trial looking at time restricted eating windows and calorie 238 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: intake with a group of overweight and obese people. 239 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, very new research, hot off the press. As far 240 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 4: as research goes, it's pretty much as new as you 241 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 4: can get. So the research study was the effects of 242 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 4: isochloric time restricted eating on body weight in obese adults. 243 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 4: So it's a randomized control trial, which is a very 244 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 4: good quality of research. And yeah, it was published on 245 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 4: the nineteenth of April twenty fourth. 246 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: As we said, very very recent. 247 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 4: Now, what they did is they looked at time restricted 248 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 4: eating and whether that lowered body weight. So what they 249 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 4: did is they put participants into two groups. So these 250 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 4: were obese adults. These weren't children, they weren't teenagers. They 251 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 4: weren't healthy adults. These were adults with obesity and or 252 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: pre diabetes or diabetes. So these participants or adults were 253 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 4: randomly assigned into two separate groups. One group was a 254 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 4: time restricted eating group where they had a ten hour 255 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: eating window where eighty percent of their calories were eaten 256 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 4: before one pm. And the other group was like a 257 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 4: usual eating pattern, but they had to eat within a 258 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 4: sixteen hour window, which is very standard for the average adult, 259 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 4: but fifty percent of the calories had to actually be 260 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 4: eaten after five PM. And they did these two groups 261 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: in these eating patterns for twelve weeks, and at the 262 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 4: end of that it actually showed what I would consider 263 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 4: we already knew in regards to time restricted eating, but 264 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 4: I think it's just a really good update and another 265 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 4: study to confirm that really both groups lost weight, but 266 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 4: the timing of the food didn't so much matter. So 267 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 4: there were forty one randomly assigned participants across the intervention. 268 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: They did lose weight, but the timing of the difference 269 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 4: came down to the calorie loads. So both groups were 270 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 4: in a calorie controlled state, I guess, so they had 271 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 4: reduced the calories to achieve a calorie deficit, but the 272 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 4: timing of those groups didn't actually seem to matter when 273 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 4: it came to body fat loss. So really what was 274 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 4: saying is you can do into in fasting, but into 275 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 4: in fasting isn't anything magical. What's magical is the fact 276 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 4: that a lot of people are able to achieve a 277 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 4: calorie deficit better from dropping off. You know, most people 278 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 4: drop off kind of one or two meals of the 279 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 4: day and eat within a very tight eating window, and 280 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 4: that creates the calorie deficit. But we know it doesn't 281 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 4: work for you know, everybody. It is actually still very 282 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 4: easy to overeat within that restrictive calorie window, and you're 283 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 4: not obviously going to achieve the deficit or the weight 284 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 4: loss that you want to if you're overeating within that window. 285 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 4: So it's a good study to reinforce what we already 286 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 4: knew that there was nothing magical about into in fasting. 287 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 4: But the amount of calories you consume across the day 288 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 4: is very important, but if you have the bulk of 289 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 4: them at nighttime, or if you have the bulk in 290 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 4: the morning, that actually doesn't impact weight loss. 291 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was really interesting because it just 292 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: again reiterates how important calorie control is, and it's so 293 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: easy for extras to slip in all the time. You know, 294 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: a client actually just sent me a sup recipe and 295 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: you know it's pactful, a healthy ingredient. But when I 296 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: looked at have like sixty grams of carbohydrate perserve, you 297 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: know that's a significant load, you know, and again bumping 298 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: up the calories even in healthy food. But I guess 299 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: my observation with clients and my client base is generally 300 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: very busy working people juggling families or big jobs. So 301 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: they're routinely home late at night. You know, they're leaving 302 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: the office at seven, seven thirty, coming in eight thirty nine. 303 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: And what I noticed as a trend is the tendency 304 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: to just grab quick meals at night, whether it is 305 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: a takeaway, or whether it is leftovers from what the 306 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: kids have had, or whether it is just toast toast 307 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: or just cereal. 308 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: I'm having yoga and granola. 309 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: Now those foods, there's something wrong with any of those foods, 310 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: but if you look at the calorie loads, they tend 311 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: to be on the higher side compared to a. 312 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: Grill piece of fish and vegetables. 313 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: Or a salad or a tray bake of roast vegetables 314 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: and a grill piece of lamb, or even a soup. 315 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: So I don't know whether it's as we get later 316 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: into the evening we need more comfort food, or we're 317 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: looking for that carbohydrate because your sugar's gone low because 318 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: it's getting later. I don't know whether it's because you're 319 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: fatigued and you're looking for that hit of energy, or 320 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: I don't know lean if it's just programming that we 321 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: associate quick, later night dinners with things like toast. But 322 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: I think the key for my busy people who routinely 323 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: find themselves eating later is to know what your lighter 324 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: meal options that you can grab are. And you know, 325 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: quite often I might use a pre made meal from 326 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: the frozen or fresh section, which if you look at them, 327 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: you say, oh, it's not as good as fish and vegetables, 328 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: but it's still pretty good, and they're often really tight 329 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: calorie control. And I think that can really help busy 330 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: people because even if you pick up something healthy on 331 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: the way home, even if you pick up a barbecue 332 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: chicken and a salad from one of the local chicken shops, 333 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: it's still got quite a lot of calories late at night. 334 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: You know, barbecue chickens still got the skin. You know, 335 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: you have to be really strict and only eat the 336 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: breast meat. The salads are ladened in dressing. So even 337 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: the healthier options that you grab tend to be hind calories. 338 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: So calorie control options, whether it's a pre made soup 339 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: or whether it's a pre made meal, can really keep 340 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: you on track at that time because even if the 341 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: dinner's light, then we have a glass of wine and 342 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: we have a dessert, and all of a sudden, you're 343 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: eating six eight hundred calories when for weight control. 344 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: You'd be closer to four or five. 345 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: So, you know, don't be scared to use some of 346 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: those convenient options that calorie controlled because they can really 347 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: keep your dyet on track. 348 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: And my go to late at night meals an omelet. 349 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's so delicious to have a couple of eggs, 350 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: grated veggies, a bit of goats cheese and it comes 351 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: in like three hundred calories and it's delicious. So if 352 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: you can find some lighter options that keep the calories 353 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: under control, it will in align with that research, not 354 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: matter that you're eating late at night. But it will 355 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: ensure that you're keeping that area tight rather than letting 356 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: the peanut. But a toast slip in, which is you know, 357 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: significant number of galleries and got up hydrates and fat 358 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: relatively late in the evening. 359 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a good point because you know, 360 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 4: often on the podcast we say, look, try not to 361 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: have the bulk of your calories at nighttime. And we 362 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 4: know the science shows us that as long as your 363 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: calories are in checks throughout the day, it doesn't matter 364 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 4: if you're eating late at night. But what tends to 365 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 4: happen is that our food choices aren't as good quality 366 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 4: at nut time. I mean, I don't know anyone sitting 367 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 4: on the couch eating some carrot sticks and a little 368 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 4: bit of say salsa. 369 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: Or anything like that. 370 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 4: Luck you might do during the day to try and 371 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 4: get some more veggies in or really try to prioritize, 372 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 4: you know, a couple of boiled eggs and some veggie 373 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 4: sticks and maybe a small handful of nuts. These aren't 374 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 4: the types of foods that we tend to gravitate towards. 375 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 4: If we're feeling a little bit of the munchies at 376 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 4: nine or ten pm. You know, we tend to grab 377 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 4: a handful of potato chips, or a bit of ice cream, 378 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 4: or a bit of leftover cake or cookie or whatever's 379 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 4: hanging around the house. It tends to be those ultra 380 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 4: process high calorie foods. Where Again, if it's in line 381 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 4: with your total calorie deficit for the day, you'll lose weight. 382 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 4: It's not a problem. But most of us, that's what's 383 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 4: actually throwing us out of the deficit is the after 384 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 4: dinner or late night snacking that's derailing the rest of 385 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 4: the hard work that we're doing throughout the day. So 386 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 4: interesting research, nothing that we already didn't know about. Intimate fasting. 387 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 4: I don't use it'd say a lot for my clients, Susie, 388 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 4: but I certainly have a handful that do very well 389 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 4: with intimate and fasting. 390 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: But what I tend to do is push back. 391 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 4: Their meals if they're going to skip something like breakfast, 392 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 4: and then give them lunch, breakfast dinner, or breakfast lunch 393 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 4: dinner just a lot later. Versus what most people do 394 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 4: with intimate fasting is lunch snack, snack, dinner snacksnack. So 395 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 4: the calories might be slightly reduced all the same, but 396 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: they're dropping out breakfast, which if you're being focused, breakfast 397 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 4: can actually be a wonderfully nutritious meal of the day. 398 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 4: For some people, it can be pretty poor choices, but 399 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 4: for some people that can really get in a lot 400 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 4: of different types of fiber and whole grains and healthy 401 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 4: fats and proteins. So depending on what your breakfast is, 402 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 4: for a lot of my ladies, I like to keep 403 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 4: it in their diet because it can really give us 404 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 4: some great additions of nutrients. Versus when people tend to 405 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 4: skip it, they will oversnack on more of those ultra 406 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 4: processed foods later on. So we're not against intimate fasting, 407 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 4: but I think a lot of people think it's a 408 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 4: lot more magical than it actually is. When it comes 409 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 4: to palloss. 410 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: True, I always say it's convenient diet theories for you, 411 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: like people take out of it what they like but 412 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: ditch the rest. So they are very happy to have 413 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: the late breakfast and skip that, but then they forget 414 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: that also needs calorie keep the calories controlled late at night. 415 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you've got to do any kind 416 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: of regime in entirety, and if you're actually going to 417 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: really intimate. 418 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 2: And fast for the benefits. It's actually the lower cow 419 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 2: approach which. 420 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: Has the cellular benefits really, and that's that's a pretty 421 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: tricky one for busy women who need their calories. So yeah, 422 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: I think makes you much better overall to keep calories 423 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: controlled than think that fasting is necessarily the answer to 424 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: all of your nutritional issues. 425 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 3: All right. 426 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: Nellyanne has been begging me to do this product in 427 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: our product review segment for weeks and I have been 428 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: a bit oh yeah, But she's going to dazzle us 429 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: today with why she loves this low fodmat flower so 430 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: very much, aren't. 431 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 3: You, lien. 432 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 4: It's better than your breakfast cookie that you had a 433 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 4: few weeks ago, Susie, I will say, look, we can 434 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 4: actually use this to make a good this cookie, right, Okay, 435 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 4: let me get so it is it's in coals. I'm 436 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 4: not actually sure if it's in Wi West. I did 437 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 4: eat in coals in the baking section. It's the low 438 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 4: low float. 439 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a low faux pantry. 440 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 4: That's a mouthful pantry low fodmap plain flowers. 441 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: So it's in a like a plastic container. 442 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 4: It's got a little blue lid and it's the world's first, 443 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 4: Australia first anyway, Now it's this world's first low fodmap 444 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 4: wheat flour. So this is for my sensitive gut girlies 445 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 4: who don't do well with wheat. Now, if you have 446 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: sea like disease, unfortunately you still cannot have this product. 447 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 4: But if you have IBS, if you have an irritable 448 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 4: about a sensitive stomach, you know that after you eat 449 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 4: normal wheat containing, say baked goods, you struggle with perhaps 450 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 4: really you know, potentially gut distress, bloating, gas, diarrhea, or 451 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 4: all of the above. This could be a really good 452 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 4: option for you because honestly, on the market, like if 453 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 4: you were wanting to bake, if you had a sensitive tummy, 454 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: most of the time your only option is either using 455 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 4: something like you know, buckwheat flour or almond meal, which 456 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 4: they make very dense products. If I'm being blunt, like 457 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 4: very dense, like they're not nice. They're not you know, 458 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 4: they're not like a typical wheat banana bread using wheat flour. 459 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 4: So I was really excited to see this foremost sensitive 460 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 4: gut listeners because I think I will definitely haven't used 461 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 4: it yet, Susie, but I will definitely be giving it 462 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 4: a go because I do have a lot of clients 463 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 4: who aren't great with high foudmat based foods, and particularly 464 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 4: are very sensitive to the fructons that are found in 465 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 4: typical wheat flour used in baking, so I'm very. 466 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 3: Excited about it. 467 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 4: You will have to pay the cost for it, obviously, 468 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 4: it's a novel product within a specific category. It's five 469 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 4: dollars for a kilo, so compared to normal you know, 470 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: wheat flour, it is a lot more expensive. But if 471 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 4: it helps a lot of people with their gut issues, 472 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 4: I'm all for that. It's made from nine to nine 473 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 4: percent Australian ingredients, so we're supporting local, which I love, 474 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 4: and the three ingredients are wheat starch, wheat gluten and 475 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 4: vegetable gums, so definitely still contains gluten, so unfortunately not 476 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 4: for our Celiac listeners, but for our other sensitive tummies. 477 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely give it a whirl. 478 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 4: Maybe start with a small amount in your baking and 479 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 4: then substitute from there. And I believe that you would 480 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 4: use it just like you would use normal wheat flour 481 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 4: versus when you're cooking with things like almond meal or 482 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 4: buckwheat flour or chickpea flour. There's nothing wrong with those things, 483 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 4: but it's very hard to get the consistency that you 484 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 4: would get from a normal you know, cookie or a 485 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 4: normal cake, because it does tend to need a lot 486 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 4: more liquid and it is a lot more dense cooking. 487 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 4: So I think that this is a good little find 488 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 4: in the market. I'm not really going to go through 489 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 4: the nutritionals because it's very similar. It's not necessarily a 490 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 4: healthier product. It's just a product that a lot of 491 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 4: people may be able to tolerate a lot easier if 492 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 4: you did have a sensitivity to wheat, or if you 493 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 4: did have a little bit of a funny tummy when 494 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 4: you consume typical quote unquote normal baked goods. 495 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: True, and it's even something that you can use well, 496 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: you're right, like there's a lot of listeners who are 497 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: interested in digestive health or have a sensitive to FODMAPs. 498 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it's great that there's more in 499 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: these products. 500 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: Obviously there's demand for them, you know, if you're making 501 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: your own pizza base or even like when I make 502 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: King pies or lasagnas coming into the cooler months, you know, 503 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: using a flour to thicken to make a cream sauce. 504 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: You know, these are things that might really upset your stomach. 505 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I think it's a good product. No 506 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: one knows digestive health better than you do. And if 507 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: Leang gives it a thumbs up, I think it's one 508 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: to pay attention to. So yeah, simples and collars, which 509 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: is great for all of our people with tummy troubles, 510 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: all rightly, And this is a question to end the 511 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: potty today that came through on our Instagram, and the 512 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: question was the cheaper nut bars, say, for example, the 513 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: no name ones or the ones available at Audi as 514 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: good nutritionally as some of the more boutique brands that 515 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: might retail for six eight dollars per box, which I 516 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: don't disagree is not inexpensive for a snack. So I 517 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: thought it lent itself to a good discussion on nat 518 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: bars as a snack in general compared to nuts, because 519 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: of course nutbars are more process now, the biggest difference 520 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 1: in nutbars in supermarket is the proportion of peanuts. So 521 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: you will notice if you take a look at ingredient list, 522 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: the cheaper bars, whether it's Audi or supermarket brands or 523 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: just different brands. In general, they will have a higher 524 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: proportion of peanut generally, and often very few other nuts, 525 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: so things like almonds, walnuts, p pedas seeds. They are 526 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: a lot more expensive than peanuts, and as such the 527 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: more boutique brands tend to have less peanut, a greater 528 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: variety of nuts in general, and often less sugar to 529 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: bind them up. So you know, for example, some of 530 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: the better quality nut bars will have five grams of 531 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: sugar or less, whereas some of the heavier ones will 532 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: be closer to ten, whether they've got a chocolate coating 533 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: or just more honey in general. Now, the reason I 534 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: like a nut bar as a snack is that I 535 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: find that they're portion controlled and as such you're more 536 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: likely to be able to have one as opposed to 537 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: start opening a packet of nuts and just keep eating. 538 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: But certainly I think that my preference is for whole 539 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: food as opposed to a bar, because what I find 540 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: is that whether it's the more expensive bars or whether 541 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: it's the cheaper just more peanut based product, particularly if 542 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: they've got like a chocolate coating, is that everyone loves them. 543 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: The first thing written down on the diet diary is 544 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: everyone loves a nut bar, whereas I would much rather 545 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: my client had a yogurt with some fresh fruit and 546 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: a sprinkling of nuts with it, or made themselves some 547 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: crackers with cheese and tomato. Because to me, what the 548 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: brain registers as a snack is something that it's like 549 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: a mini meal that you have to sit down and eat. 550 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: You prepare it. It's going to keep you full for 551 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: a significant amount of time, as opposed to a bar, 552 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: which at a minimum will contain one hundred and forty calories, 553 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: if not closer to two hundred, which is not insignificant. 554 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 2: And sometimes I need five grams. 555 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: Of protein, whereas ideally a bar at least will have 556 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: closer to ten grams of protein. And that's the other sign. 557 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: The higher protein nut bars are more expensive than the 558 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: lower protein ones, so I think that they fit somewhere 559 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: in between, like a snack on the go when you're traveling, 560 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: if you're doing a hike, But they're certainly not my 561 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: go to dating snack. I'd much prefer my clients, as 562 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: I said, to actually have a prepared snack that registers 563 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: as something substantial than just grabbing a bar that you 564 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: can eat one forty one eighty calories in literally two 565 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: or three minutes, and then you go that tastes bread, 566 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to have another one. So I do use them, 567 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: but I prefer to use them as a snack on 568 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: the run when there's nothing else, when traveling, or when 569 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: doing a lot of exercise, whereas I would prefer snacks 570 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: to be something they actually make. On that note, though, 571 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: I do think they're a very good snack for children 572 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: after school, particularly older children, if there's no issues with 573 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: NA allergy. Obviously after schools, of course, we can't have 574 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: nuts at most schools, but for teenagers who have very 575 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: high energy demands, it's a million times better they have 576 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: a nutbar, even if it is a cheaper one with 577 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: peanuts that it is. They eat biscuits, cakes, and all 578 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: the other jump food that they like to eat. So 579 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: I think the other market that I think they're very 580 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: smart for is people with high energy demands and teenagers 581 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: because they're much more nutritious than most kids packaged snacks 582 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: that are out there. 583 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 3: A hut a percent. 584 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 4: I completely agree with everything you've said. I use them 585 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: regularly for my clients, but like you said, I've always 586 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: got my clients to shove one at the bottom of 587 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 4: their handbags if they're out there running around, they're going 588 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 4: to the kids soccer game. I would one hundred percent 589 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 4: rather they eat at the nutbar and an apple in 590 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 4: their handbag, then go and get a thing of hot chips, 591 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 4: because you know, training ran late and they're hungry and 592 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 4: they're not going to get home for dinner for another 593 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 4: kind of you know, hour or something like that. So 594 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 4: I've I've always personally got one on myself as well, 595 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 4: just as a bit of a quick snack, And so 596 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 4: I'm not against them either, but I do feel like 597 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 4: the quality does differ. I do think you pay for 598 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 4: the qualities. So I mean, the listener question was are 599 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 4: the cheaper nut bars as good as the more expensive ones? 600 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 4: In simple answer, I know they're not. The cheaper ones 601 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 4: are not as good because the quality of the ingredients 602 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 4: is nowhere near the quality of the ingredients in some 603 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 4: of the more expensive ones we're not going to name. 604 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 4: In Shane brands, you absolutely need to read your labels 605 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 4: and read the ingredient list. But even some of the 606 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 4: more expensive ones Susie will contain just better types of 607 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 4: say like five or more gentle on this me things 608 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 4: like cillium husk and a little you know, a little 609 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 4: less rice brown oil to bind it. 610 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 3: As you said, better quality of nuts. 611 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 4: So from a gut health perspective and a diversity perspective, 612 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 4: that is certainly better for your health long term. And 613 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 4: you know, I think too many of us are getting 614 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 4: into probably too many peanuts compared to the other types 615 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 4: of nuts. We know, the health benefits from things like 616 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 4: almonds and walnuts and pistachios are one hundred times better, 617 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 4: not one hundred times better, but far better nutritionally than 618 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 4: some of the other you know, just eating peanuts regularly, 619 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 4: and I think a lot of people use peanut butter 620 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 4: in a lot of their breakfast options that we don't 621 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 4: potentially want to throw more and more peanuts into the 622 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 4: mix because other types of nuts, particularly things like walnuts 623 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 4: with the plant based in MiG its reason they're offer 624 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 4: really good anti inflammatory effects to the body. So if 625 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 4: you have the budget, I would one hundred percent always 626 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 4: advocate buying the more expensive nut bars because I think 627 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 4: quality wise they're better. But you KNOWISUZI both love a 628 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 4: budget and I've never paid full price for a box 629 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 4: of nut bars whenever they're twenty thirty forty percent off, 630 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 4: I'll grab like five six boxes, leave them in the pantry, 631 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 4: and then I'll set me through a couple months. So 632 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 4: really look out for those deals. Try not to buy 633 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 4: one a week in your weekly shopping. Wait till they 634 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 4: are on sale, and snap up a couple of boxes 635 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 4: because I think they're certainly worth it from a nutritional, 636 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 4: better quality perspective. 637 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: And I can't agree more. 638 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: Because I do trolleys every week on my Instagram, I 639 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: get all this feedback too. 640 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: Much packaged food, like how much does that cost? Now? 641 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: I just want to be very clear that I don't 642 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,239 Speaker 2: shop like that at all. 643 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm like you when it comes to any kind of 644 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: process food, Like at the moment, I buy hot chocolates, 645 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: but we of course are formulating our own so that 646 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: will stop. But whether it's hot chocolate, whether it's snacks 647 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: for the kids for school, whether it's not bars or 648 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: fish even I only ever buy it when it's the 649 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: forty to fifty percent off, and dumplings is the other one, 650 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: and I super load it in the cupboard because. 651 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: Why pay double when you can get it for half? 652 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: So I scour those catalogs each week, and that's a 653 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: really smart way to budget. If you find that you 654 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: can pack them away in the house, you can save 655 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: a lot of money feeding the family. 656 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: So Leanne and I certainly not big packaged food eaters. 657 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: We sort of pick our key products and then stop 658 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: them aut because I don't like to waste money like you, 659 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'd much rather use that for fresh food. 660 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: And so when they are on sale, things like nutbars, 661 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: which can be usually I think they get to about 662 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: forty percent off when they're on a great sale, that's 663 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: the time. Absolutely I stop up as well. 664 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 3: And they got a good use by date too. 665 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and just I pack them away though because 666 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: of course at home, if they're insight, everyone eats them, 667 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: whereas I pack them away and like a tub in 668 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: the pantry, so you don't just eat them on an 669 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: autoque because they're right in front of you. 670 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: That's another trip, all right. 671 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: Lean Well, that brings us to the end of the 672 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: Nutrition Couch podcast for another week. 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