WEBVTT - 🎙️ Mick Fanning - Surfing Legend Who Inspires Community 🏄

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Today we've got special guests. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>proper set up here, so you know he's a special guest,

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<v Speaker 1>A great man, one of the greatest men of Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to think from my time here, he is

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven twenty thirteen World Star League champion.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got role models in Australia, I think, and like

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<v Speaker 1>the people all over the world that I think represent countries,

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<v Speaker 1>I think of people like yourself, Ash Barty, people that

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<v Speaker 1>represent this country of Australia better than anyone else. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's credit to you and what you've done. We'll go

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<v Speaker 1>through some of it. Man, it's it's pretty phenomenal, seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll welcome in Nick Fanning, the absolute legend that is. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so good to have you. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on. We'll start off the cooly kids from

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<v Speaker 1>Kool and Gatta. Now you've got some of your great Mitess.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got Joel Parkinson, Dean Morrison and yourself grew up together.

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<v Speaker 1>You always told y'all this is literally what I was

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<v Speaker 1>told you waged school. Now, I didn't know what wag

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<v Speaker 1>miant right in, so I had to I had to

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<v Speaker 1>do a bit of deep diving into that and find

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<v Speaker 1>out that meant hooky an American language. But you essentially

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<v Speaker 1>skipped school together, used to sorry full time, obviously, traveled

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<v Speaker 1>the world, won championships and stuff like that. What was

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<v Speaker 1>it like? I guess having those people you grew up

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<v Speaker 1>with be part of your career throughout the time that

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<v Speaker 1>you were traveling overseas, and I can imagine like at

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<v Speaker 1>times it'd be so lonely being away from friends and

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<v Speaker 1>family and everything else, like to have those guys there

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to support you throughout those times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was amazing, you know. I guess going back

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<v Speaker 2>to the school days, they probably wagged a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>than me. I'd get in trouble. My brothers would tell

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<v Speaker 2>my mum that I had to go to school. But then, yeah, look,

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<v Speaker 2>those two guys were pretty much the reason why I

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<v Speaker 2>am where I am today. They were destined to be

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<v Speaker 2>pro surfer since they like twelve years old and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really know how to become a pro or how

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<v Speaker 2>to make the tour or anything like that. I just

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<v Speaker 2>followed them, and I was always getting like second or

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<v Speaker 2>third to those guys and just could never beat them.

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<v Speaker 2>And that just made me want to try harder and

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<v Speaker 2>just be better. And then yeah, we went through these

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<v Speaker 2>leap frog effects where you know, one month Joel would

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<v Speaker 2>be winning everything, the next month Dean would be winning everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I would go over the top of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll just keep doing that, and then before we

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<v Speaker 2>knew it, we're all top ten in the world. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it just happened so fast. And like I just said,

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<v Speaker 2>the tour can be a lonely spot at times, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when you've got two of your best mates

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<v Speaker 2>that you grew up with, anything happened, would all be there,

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<v Speaker 2>like supporting each other, especially our first year on tour,

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<v Speaker 2>always watching each other's heats, making sure that we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>from spot to spot. And yeah, and it's still still

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<v Speaker 2>like that today, Like we're always on the phone together,

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<v Speaker 2>we're always going surfing together, and yeah, it's more more

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<v Speaker 2>of a brotherhood than actual mates.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like, do you have a give a memory

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<v Speaker 1>of like something of someone winning a championship maybe at

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<v Speaker 1>a certain time that really just kind of jelled you on,

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<v Speaker 1>took you to the next level of that friendship.

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<v Speaker 2>Our first year on tour was was big, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>was really significant, you know, Joel won the first event

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<v Speaker 2>of the year for US. Joel to actually qualified the

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<v Speaker 2>year before us but sort of didn't do that well.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he won that event, and then yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>parted it his plays and then and then as we

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<v Speaker 2>went through the year, I won an event and Dingo

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<v Speaker 2>was sort of struggling, and there was a moment where,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he had a death in the family and

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like it was us three just sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there and trying to figure out the best plan for

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<v Speaker 2>for Dean and making sure that he was okay to

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<v Speaker 2>if he wanted to serve or if he wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>go home, that he knew that he had support there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that first year sort of really cemented

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<v Speaker 2>how strong our friendships were. And then Dinga had a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty bad accident in Hawaii and actually didn't qualify for

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<v Speaker 2>the following year, and he got a wild card, an

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<v Speaker 2>injury wild card, and then he came out the next

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<v Speaker 2>year and ended up winning the very first event, and

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<v Speaker 2>so it was a really big It was a big

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<v Speaker 2>win for all of us in that situation, and seeing

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<v Speaker 2>you may have a hard time and then come out

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<v Speaker 2>in triumph was really special. So they're the things that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of you know, carry on today and then even

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<v Speaker 2>now we're off to it. We've always got each other's backs.

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<v Speaker 2>We always know exactly what's going on in each other's lives,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, good, bad, ugly, pretty, We're there for every moment.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to have that kind of family feel I

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<v Speaker 1>guess of people, and it's so so important. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like in that inner circle of your mates that you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of do. Now I want to go We'll go

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<v Speaker 1>back into a little bit, but I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>into fanning. The fire video, the og like video. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're young at this point in your career, you're

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<v Speaker 1>traveling the world, simply filming yourself, hitting all these different

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<v Speaker 1>waves around the world. That would have been one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most exciting times of your life, surely filming everything

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<v Speaker 1>just like I feel like, there's no real restrictions whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like you're doing. I mean like at

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<v Speaker 1>one point in the video you were in a fighter jet.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of like just chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was. To be really honest, I was so

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<v Speaker 2>naive to the whole video side of things. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just I was all about just trying to qualify. I

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<v Speaker 2>was just trying to get on tour and see what

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<v Speaker 2>I could do on tour and stuff like that, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so lucky. I get put in situations. Some are good,

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<v Speaker 2>some are really stupid, but just get put in situations

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<v Speaker 2>where I get to go and jump in a fighter

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<v Speaker 2>jet or you know, I get to go on these

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<v Speaker 2>trips where I'm just with a bunch of mates on

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<v Speaker 2>a boat or something like that, and it's like, there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing better. It was a really fun time. I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>you another funny story was when just after Fanning the

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<v Speaker 2>Fire came out. It was our first yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>our first year on tour, and we went to Brazil

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<v Speaker 2>and there was a blackout in this hotel and there

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<v Speaker 2>was fifteen hundred candles all around this hotel, like jeez, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like the whole place was just out of power. And

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<v Speaker 2>Dingo and I just rocked in that day. We're in

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<v Speaker 2>a room together and we were like, all right, he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to go and get some boards fixed from a

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<v Speaker 2>friend next door, and so we're like, oh, let's go

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<v Speaker 2>do that and we'll be back in like five ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we left the candle on top of the

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<v Speaker 2>TV and we essentially the candle went through, the TV

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<v Speaker 2>exploded and we went back in five ten minutes. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back in like four or five hours, because we

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<v Speaker 2>ended up just going to hang out with these guys

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<v Speaker 2>and we come back and people thought we were dead

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<v Speaker 2>in the room and this and that, and all our

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<v Speaker 2>boards were just covered in black silk. All our clothes

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<v Speaker 2>just ruined, gone, had no clothes, had nothing. Dingo traveled

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<v Speaker 2>home on a burnt passport. But yeah, it was just

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<v Speaker 2>like fanning the fire really stuck then, because yeah, me

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<v Speaker 2>and Dinga pretty much burnt down my hotel. From then on,

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<v Speaker 2>Dingo and I never stayed together over again, and I

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<v Speaker 2>moved in with Parkay.

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<v Speaker 1>Fire out in Brazil. Yeah, oh gosh, don't license. How

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<v Speaker 1>was that, like that video going out, like obviously kind

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<v Speaker 1>of how the publicity comes with it, Like that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>your first real, I guess, like experience of like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of being known everywhere and a kind of a global standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>like being young in that situation. How was that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how'd you end up handling that situation of having a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of fame now with that coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was different because I guess back then

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<v Speaker 2>was sort of before the Internet. It was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there was no social media or anything like that, just

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<v Speaker 2>DVDs then yeah, so yeah, I sort of probably didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get the same notoriety of what a kid would do today.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you do something good today and it's on

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<v Speaker 2>the news like that, it's on social thing like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So it sort of took probably a year or so,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's yeah, look, it's a learning curve, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you get trained to to become a process.

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<v Speaker 2>You get trained to talk in front of the media

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, but no one really goes through

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<v Speaker 2>and trained you how to you know, handle your biers

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<v Speaker 2>at the pub or not run around like an idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's yeah, look, as I said at the start

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<v Speaker 2>of it, I made plenty of mistakes and that's just

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<v Speaker 2>that's just learning. And but yeah, as you as you grow,

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<v Speaker 2>Like even when I became world champion, it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want that responsibility. All I want to do

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<v Speaker 2>is go surfing. But it just comes and you have

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<v Speaker 2>to learn to deal with it and you have to

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<v Speaker 2>learn to, yeah, just treat people the way you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be treated.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people don't know how to handle it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, treat them as you were treating anyone

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<v Speaker 1>else in life, and like obviously there'd be more people

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<v Speaker 1>that come into your life because of the fan that

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<v Speaker 1>you've kind of gotten. But that's a great, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>a great way of putting it. But now I will

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<v Speaker 1>move into this because you say, treat people the way

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be treated. Now the Gold Cost floods

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<v Speaker 1>recently here, I've heard some amazing stories about you and

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<v Speaker 1>what you've done. Even just walking in here. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys are saying, you're just rolling around Jesski throwing

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<v Speaker 1>beerd of people that needed it. But in all us

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a massive, massive floods rolled through got the Gold

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<v Speaker 1>Coast and a lot of people I need help. The

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<v Speaker 1>government can't reach everyone, and you've essentially come to the

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<v Speaker 1>realization you have the ability to get to these people

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<v Speaker 1>through launching jet skis off highways. Have been told it's

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<v Speaker 1>a credit to you. Is there any like looking back

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<v Speaker 1>at that time in life and when it happened, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what was going through your brain whenever you know this

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<v Speaker 1>is happening in your kind of your area that you

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<v Speaker 1>live and you're seeing these people being affected by something

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<v Speaker 1>that's just you can't plan.

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<v Speaker 2>For lack of better words, it was a shoot show.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was so wild. So it sort of

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<v Speaker 2>all came about Parker went down down the river on

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<v Speaker 2>his ski just to check things out, just to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that he went down the day before, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was at home. I was dealing with you know, rising

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<v Speaker 2>water where I'm at and and so I was like

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<v Speaker 2>concentrating on making sure my family was safe and making

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<v Speaker 2>sure that you know, the house wasn't flooding and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. And then to get a text probably about

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<v Speaker 2>seven pm that night and Parka is like, hey, boys,

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<v Speaker 2>we might need some help tomorrow. And instantly our community out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, our inner circle just went all right, we're on.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it wasn't just me, it was we had

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<v Speaker 2>this community that just everyone just dropped everything they were

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<v Speaker 2>doing and just went, let's go and help these people.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we had as many skis as we

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<v Speaker 2>could get out in the water. We had them, we

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<v Speaker 2>had boats, we had yeah, just trying to We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>to people like SeaWorld to bring down their boats. The

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<v Speaker 2>powerboat people came down from southward, just just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get as much resources to people. And then the other

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<v Speaker 2>part was probably the biggest heroes in all This is

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<v Speaker 2>that probably didn't get the recognition was all our partners

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<v Speaker 2>were back at the oat ramp and they're just texting

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<v Speaker 2>us addresses and telling us where food's got to get to,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're dealing with the calls, They're dealing with Instagram messages,

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook messages, and they were just around the clock, just

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<v Speaker 2>NonStop like some some some moms didn't even see their

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<v Speaker 2>kids in four or five days, and we're just like

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<v Speaker 2>just putting their life on hold to go and help others.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were just in a pressure cook of the

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<v Speaker 2>whole time. I guess my role sort of as things

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<v Speaker 2>went on, my role changed through just you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out where I could place myself to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that everyone got the best benefit. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, first first day, I was on the

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<v Speaker 2>skis and I was going up and down streets, well

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<v Speaker 2>they were rivers, they were meant to be streets, and

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<v Speaker 2>just making sure people were okay, transporting people to dry land,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, making sure that people could if they needed food,

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<v Speaker 2>we would flag houses, make sure that food water to

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<v Speaker 2>get through the night. And then the next day I

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<v Speaker 2>went down to Mwoolembar flew down and I was on

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<v Speaker 2>my way down, and that's when a woman by the

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<v Speaker 2>name of Sky, she was a pharmacist down in Murbile,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like, I need to lift down, and she

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<v Speaker 2>was in this tiny would have taken her hours and

0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I was like, get on, let's go. So she got

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<v Speaker 2>to open up the pharmacy down there, make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>people got medication they needed, you know, everything to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that they were healthy mentally and physically. And I

0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.600
<v Speaker 2>stayed in my wombar that day and we sort of

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<v Speaker 2>had we had house boats coming down. We had we

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<v Speaker 2>had a fleet of probably about ten fifteen boats that

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<v Speaker 2>would come down and they was just dropping food, water

0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.040
<v Speaker 2>because these people were all just cut off, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're trying to help out the hospitals, the recovery centers.

0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:14.200
<v Speaker 2>I had the local police just filling up their paddy

0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.559
<v Speaker 2>wagons and they're just going out places like Yukai and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to make sure that people have food and water.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was coordinating that at Murbile was pretty hectic.

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<v Speaker 2>We're running out of resources, and so I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to be the face of this. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to attract media attention or anything like. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not who I am. But it was like, I'll do

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<v Speaker 2>a media run just so we can get more money,

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<v Speaker 2>we can get more food and get more water and

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<v Speaker 2>get more help because we're run in nothing. And so

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<v Speaker 2>that's how that went in. And then and then and

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<v Speaker 2>then the next thing, I know, I'm organizing choppers to

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<v Speaker 2>go out speaking to the premiers and you know, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to help these people that you know, the people who police,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to sort the rescues out, and so it just

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<v Speaker 2>kept evolving. And but yeah, I was just I was

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<v Speaker 2>just part of a team. Man Like for me to

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<v Speaker 2>take all that credits, I probably it was. Yeah, our partners,

0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.960
<v Speaker 2>the people out in the water, the people going and

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<v Speaker 2>knocking on doors making sure people were safe. Like everyone

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<v Speaker 2>was hugely, hugely affected, and we just tried to do

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<v Speaker 2>our best to make sure that our fellow neighbors were

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<v Speaker 2>and fellow communities were safe.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an amazing thing I've learned about Australia is like

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<v Speaker 1>whenever people on dire diar need, the community comes out

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<v Speaker 1>and does their best. I've never seen anyone be as

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<v Speaker 1>charitable of a country as Australia whenever people are in need,

0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:51.800
<v Speaker 1>like whether it be just doing a good Friday appeel

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<v Speaker 1>like today is good Friday, and like doing something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>people just are so willing to give now would have

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<v Speaker 1>probably in that situation think of like you and you're

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<v Speaker 1>very selfless man, like you don't like to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the front of the media, you know, and have that

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<v Speaker 1>you obviously we just spoke about it, and you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the people and the community that made it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just yourself. Was it good? Though? To be

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<v Speaker 1>able to have the ability of being a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>an icon and a bit of a model, like a

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<v Speaker 1>role model in society, to be able to use that

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<v Speaker 1>platform to actually get their supplies and like be able

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<v Speaker 1>to use that in such a beneficial way for those people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was great. Like to be able to get

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<v Speaker 2>more food, more water, more first aid, more all that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of stuff. That was that was our goal, you

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<v Speaker 2>know when we started to help and then and then,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, like when we started hearing stories about

0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.600
<v Speaker 2>people trapped out the back of a woolen bar and

0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:52.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, hadn't had any contact for five days, no food,

0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.480
<v Speaker 2>no water, and we're like, how do we do that?

0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:59.920
<v Speaker 2>And then you get people like just started donating how

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<v Speaker 2>helicopters and then all of a sudden, we're coordinating where

0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:09.800
<v Speaker 2>helicopters go, like people like Mick Dollon, another guy, Paul Gideon, Like,

0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.200
<v Speaker 2>there were so many people that came and just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to help in one way or another, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>just trying to figure out ways to help these people

0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:23.600
<v Speaker 2>so they could you feel safe and you know, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to worry about, you know, where they're going to sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>or if they were going to be able to feed

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<v Speaker 2>their kids or putting appies on and all that sort

0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:37.240
<v Speaker 2>of stuff. And it was, it was. It took a

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<v Speaker 2>big toll though on especially our partners and the people

0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:48.040
<v Speaker 2>that were in on all that, you know, just to

0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.960
<v Speaker 2>seeing these people in need. It really affected everyone. And

0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:57.320
<v Speaker 2>the community is still picking up the pieces and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you walk down the street of some of these towns

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, they're still trying to get their lives back together,

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<v Speaker 2>which is tough. And so that's why, you know, we're

0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.280
<v Speaker 2>not forgetting about it. We want to keep helping. And

0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.879
<v Speaker 2>that's sort of while we got other different things in place.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we'll go on to another person that's helped you

0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.280
<v Speaker 1>out quite a bit in your life. Your mother yeah. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's true, she was your agent.

0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.160
<v Speaker 2>She was hod that work.

0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I was the dynamic of your mother being your agent.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever have any conversations the same mom put

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<v Speaker 1>a few few zeros at the end of that contract

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<v Speaker 1>or asked for more here, asked for more there.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, it was funny, it was funny. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. I think I was around sixteen seventeen at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and you know, I started getting larger contracts

0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:50.720
<v Speaker 2>and and you know, my mates were having agents and

0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:55.120
<v Speaker 2>managers and stuff like that, and and I went, oh,

0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.280
<v Speaker 2>that sounds like a pretty good idea. Saved me working.

0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:03.080
<v Speaker 2>And so I went home and my mom's she was

0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.679
<v Speaker 2>the managing director of a whole bunch of different hospitals.

0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:11.680
<v Speaker 2>She's mental health. And I went home and I was like, hey, Mom,

0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.720
<v Speaker 2>what do you think if I got a manager or whatever?

0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:20.560
<v Speaker 2>And She's like, no, you're smart enough to look after

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<v Speaker 2>your own stuff. And you know, I'm going to help you,

0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:27.520
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to teach you the ins and outs

0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:33.439
<v Speaker 2>of your business. And I'm like, okay, yeah, well, I

0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:37.680
<v Speaker 2>guess I don't I guess I don't have a choice

0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:41.960
<v Speaker 2>on that one, because yeah, like mom's stuff like she's

0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.960
<v Speaker 2>the nicest woman in the world, but she's a fiery

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<v Speaker 2>lines and when and you know who better to to

0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:56.320
<v Speaker 2>protect you in that situation than your mom pretty much

0:19:56.440 --> 0:20:00.520
<v Speaker 2>guide me and teach me about my business. And yeah,

0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:01.399
<v Speaker 2>here we are today.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she ever think you'd accomplish what you've accomplished? She

0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:06.600
<v Speaker 1>still just got this is insane.

0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so. I think, you know, I pinched

0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:15.960
<v Speaker 2>myself too, like like you know, a kid born in

0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Penrith to two migrants, you know in English, and that

0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:25.439
<v Speaker 2>never swum. I think if you push my dad in

0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:29.400
<v Speaker 2>the poorly drown you know, to become a pro surfer,

0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.479
<v Speaker 2>it still blows my mind. And I think that's the

0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:34.720
<v Speaker 2>beauty of it is that we all just learn on

0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.520
<v Speaker 2>the fly. We all just learned as we went. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there was probably probably situations where we could

0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.920
<v Speaker 2>have made more money, or there could have been situations

0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:47.280
<v Speaker 2>where probably a deal didn't go right. But you know,

0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't change anything.

0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.800
<v Speaker 1>It seems like the people you like to surround yourself with,

0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.560
<v Speaker 1>like giving them that experience also and doing it as

0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:57.199
<v Speaker 1>a group means a lot. And like I think, like

0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I said, that inner circle and having them be part

0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:02.800
<v Speaker 1>of your career and sharing the successes and sometimes help

0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:05.159
<v Speaker 1>you through the failures and things like that. It just

0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:08.640
<v Speaker 1>makes it feel like such a more wholesome experience overall.

0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, for sure. And you know there's not

0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:18.160
<v Speaker 2>dissing managers or anything like that. But yeah, if something

0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:22.919
<v Speaker 2>went wrong, hang up the phone and throw it in

0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:27.400
<v Speaker 2>the ocean because the lioness is coming for it was Yeah,

0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I remember she lost it at my bosses so many times.

0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:35.640
<v Speaker 2>You know. I have a great relationship with my old

0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:38.960
<v Speaker 2>boss at Ripke or a Ridgeway, and he remember getting

0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:44.879
<v Speaker 2>on the phone's on stuff and that learnt for me too,

0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Like it was like, you know what, if I don't

0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:50.439
<v Speaker 2>like something in the contract, I'm happy to get on

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.600
<v Speaker 2>the phone. So we're not doing this or let's change this.

0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:57.960
<v Speaker 2>And it's it's a good way to learn doing and

0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:00.680
<v Speaker 2>throwing as well, Like there are things that you don't

0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:02.800
<v Speaker 2>want to do but you have to do, and then

0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:07.359
<v Speaker 2>there's other things that I think the people that I

0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.040
<v Speaker 2>work with trust that if I say I'm going to

0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 2>do something, I'm going to do it.

0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we want Brie. Now you've got little Xander, two

0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:19.600
<v Speaker 1>year old retired life. How is it now? Being a

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:20.200
<v Speaker 1>family man.

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love it. There's nothing better. As I said,

0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:26.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to I try not to work just

0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.680
<v Speaker 2>to be at home. And I love just learning each

0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:35.159
<v Speaker 2>and every day from him, like not one day's saying

0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 2>it's crazy. But we have so much fun, Like even

0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:42.320
<v Speaker 2>just walking down the beach last night, you know, we

0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.439
<v Speaker 2>were just running and laughing for like two hours and

0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:49.679
<v Speaker 2>it was just that's what you live for, you know.

0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:56.680
<v Speaker 2>And Breeze. Seriously, she's the most caring, patient, mum person

0:22:56.800 --> 0:23:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I've ever met. And yeah, I'm so lucky too that

0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:06.200
<v Speaker 2>she came into my life. And Xander's the luckiest kid

0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 2>on earth to have her as a mum, because if

0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 2>she wasn't around, his life would be a bit different

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 2>with me.

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Dropping on jet skis where everyone's yeah yeah and.

0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Things, you know, tantrums probably wouldn't wouldn't happen.

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:23.560
<v Speaker 1>She's got patience, She's got so much. And Xander getting

0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 1>into swimming and everything else.

0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Loves it. He loves the beach. He had a year

0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:30.720
<v Speaker 2>where he hated the beach and I was just thinking,

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:36.800
<v Speaker 2>oh no, I'm going to have that kid that doesn't Yeah,

0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 2>So I was thinking, maybe you might steer him into

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:42.879
<v Speaker 2>golf or something like that. But he's loving the beach.

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:47.160
<v Speaker 2>He's going, Yeah, he's almost pulling us down the beach

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 2>more often. And just like there's times where you know,

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I could go surfing or whatever, and I'm just I'd

0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.359
<v Speaker 2>rather just hang on the beach with those two just

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 2>have so much fun. And it was pretty classic. Just

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 2>the other week, I asked him if I could go surfing.

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 2>He's like, no, you can't go surfing. Mummy, go surfing.

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, well, you know, three, you're off by yourself.

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.399
<v Speaker 2>And and she went and caught her first of a

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 2>wave by herself. Wow. And me and him just sat

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 2>on the beach playing trucks.

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Two year old's running the house already pretty much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what's going on. Have you got him

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 1>onto the surf forward?

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:31.560
<v Speaker 2>He's caught a few waves, yeah, yeah.

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Like over the back or you put him on the

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 1>front of the surfa.

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 2>At the moment, were sort of just putting him on

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 2>the front. He's caught a couple where he's been laying

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 2>on my back. Like, but yeah, I don't want to

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:47.399
<v Speaker 2>push him too hard, just because you know, I'm scared

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 2>that if I scare and then he's not going to

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 2>want to go back, so I'm doing everything at his pace.

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll get into a little bit of this. We

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.400
<v Speaker 1>haven't actually really talked about your surfing career too much yet,

0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:00.639
<v Speaker 1>so we'll get into a little bit of the rivalryes

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 1>you've had with some of these people, Right, You've got

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Kelly Slater, Gabrielle Medina Andrel Dezusa, Andy Irons, like some

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>of these amazing surfers that have come through the system.

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 1>How do you like obviously, whenever you travel around the

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>world doing these different surf competitions and stuff like, you

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:17.120
<v Speaker 1>would almost feel like a family. I feel like within

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:18.639
<v Speaker 1>a family of other people that throw up with the

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>same competitions and stuff. It was it tough to separate

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>whenever you go out there friendship from competitiveness. Is it

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:27.479
<v Speaker 1>like that whenever you get into the water, as soon

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:29.119
<v Speaker 1>as your feet hit the water, it's like, you know what,

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>friendship goes to the side. This is purely business. Can't

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>like get into the into the competition.

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:40.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's how I Yeah, like that's how I always

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 2>looked at it, Like I always tried to leave it

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:47.439
<v Speaker 2>out in the water. You know, sometimes someone might be

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 2>a dick in the water, but you know, use the

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 2>rules or whatever. But there's always I guess the same

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:55.879
<v Speaker 2>in footy, where there are some gentlemen rules and like

0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.479
<v Speaker 2>if someone takes a cheap shot or something like that,

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:00.640
<v Speaker 2>you're going to be like, all right, I remember you.

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 2>And there were times like that, but a lot of

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 2>the time I would always just try and leave it

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:10.679
<v Speaker 2>in the water. You know, if you play by the

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:13.480
<v Speaker 2>rules and you give it your best, we're good. Yeah,

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 2>So that that was the way I was went about it.

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, as you said, you're traveling with these guys

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 2>traveling with you, seeing their families and you know, helping

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 2>each other through airports, and some people just see sports.

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's their team and they'll do anything for

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 2>their team. But at the end of the day, guys

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:37.680
<v Speaker 2>and girls actually get along with people from other teams,

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 2>and that's the way it should be. Like I still

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 2>talk and hang out with some of my biggest rivals,

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Like probably my biggest rival, Parker is like one of

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 2>my best mates. So so yeah, you have to you

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 2>have to be able to separate it.

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>It's funny because the people you compete against the people

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>you have to actually go out there and try to

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>be probably the most compatible to you as far as

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>your friendships. You do the same thing, the same stuff.

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.199
<v Speaker 1>You go to such different places around the world. Like

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.680
<v Speaker 1>after an event, did everyone go to the same pub

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:07.680
<v Speaker 1>and like have beers together and like hang out or

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:09.639
<v Speaker 1>was it like everyone went their own ways, went to

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 1>their own families or was it just kind of like yeah,

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>we're WSL, like we're all here together or just enjoy

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the time.

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:20.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, there's after parties and everyone comes together and

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:24.679
<v Speaker 2>has way too many beers and and that's the beauty.

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Like we as as Ozzie is too. We had different

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 2>traditions in different areas, you know, Like probably the most

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 2>well known one is in France, we had the Cafe

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 2>to Parry, which is this little pub right on the

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 2>corner and they sell giraffes like the two liter beers

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 2>in a tube, and we would have, Man, we don't

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 2>have anywhere between twenty to one hundred people there, or

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 2>just celebrating like depends who won. And that's that's hilarious though,

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Like I go through photos now and I see those

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 2>things and it's it's like they're the memories that you

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 2>remember more than actually you know, round three heat lead

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 2>up competition. Say yeah, and that's where you build your friendships,

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 2>and you know it's that's the memories that you last forever,

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 2>and they're the ones that will carry on with you

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 2>because also too, as a sports person, you're only got

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:34.360
<v Speaker 2>a last span of say fifteen, you know, ten to

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 2>twenty years maybe unless you're Kelly Slater and it goes

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 2>on for four hundred and thirty years. But they're the

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 2>times that you keep carrying on and you find out

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 2>who you like and who you don't like, and who

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 2>you like have a beer with.

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Like, what's your favorite place to compete? Actually, what's your

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>favorite place in the world to serve? I want to

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>compete because that's going to limit you a bit.

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 2>It's probably the same thing. Look, I love home, you know,

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I live here for a because life's easy, amazing ways,

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 2>climate's great. Probably the best places I love to compete

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>where Fiji. We got to stay on a small little

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 2>island and it was just the competitors and the crew

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 2>and it's like almost camp vibes. And then obviously South

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Africa is a big one for me. I just love

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 2>how raw it is and how you know you could

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 2>be in the ocean, then you're going to see you know,

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 2>wild big five animals within an hour. It's just still

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 2>trips me out to this day. But it's just beautiful

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 2>place and the people are amazing. So they're probably my

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 2>two favorites that I would go to.

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>You say, like, like surfing's properly shaped. Obviously it's been

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>such a massive part of your life, Like is it

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>now Like you obviously have the competition side of things,

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>but now you go surfing and it's probably more of

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>an enjoyment thing now than anything of You don't feel

0:29:57.840 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 1>like you need to prep for the next competition or

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. Is it Is it really your escape

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 1>now to just go out there and you just feel

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>totally one hundred in your own environment whenever you're on

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the water.

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's funny, like I go surfing. I really

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 2>enjoy just going surfing, even if it's for like ten

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 2>to fifteen minutes. But as I've gotten older, I've really

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 2>noticed that if I don't surf, my mental health goes down,

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 2>and so it's a good reset for me each and

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>every day. And I know that briandsand to notice it

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 2>too when we're at home, like if I haven't served

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 2>in a few days. I'm a little bit snappier, and.

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>They tell you to go for a sec.

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 2>They're like, piss off, go to the beach, and so yeah,

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 2>I the thing about surfing is that I go there

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 2>and I concentrate one hundred percent on me. Yeah, you

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 2>know what wave to catch, what turn to do, and

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I can right now, I can ride any board I

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 2>want or you know, I'm not practicing for that next event.

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 2>So that's that's the beauty of surfing. And you know,

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 2>as I was saying before, like to be able to

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 2>take my family down the beach and create memories is

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 2>it's priceless.

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>So special advice or anyone that's out there and trying

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>to do what you've.

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Done, it's okay, aything, it's hard work, but you've got

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 2>to enjoy it. Like, sure, there's days that absolutely suck,

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 2>but you know that might be one in ten, it

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 2>might be one in twenty. I was blessed to essentially

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 2>like everyone, everyone says that their jobs are best in

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the world, but yeah, man, surfing is one of those

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 2>things where you're not only going surfing for your job,

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 2>you're going and doing surf trips for your companies and

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>it's just Yeah, we're just spoiled.

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>It's a phenomenal life you be able to live. Like

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>in Look, there's two massive Red Bull Jess kids behind me.

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that would be pretty fun to take out.

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 2>No lie for it.

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>You've been fortunate enough not only in the surfing well,

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>now that you've retired, you've got into a bit of

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the business world.

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people have known that you've been involved

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>in the beer company that you've now sold. Like, do

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 1>you look at yourself as a businessman now?

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Nah?

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>No, Look, I think because you started Balta ber you've

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>got like you and Joel obviously you talked about that

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.239
<v Speaker 1>friendship and it would have been pretty special to have

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>a company like together that you started. Yeah, and like

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>have that together as a friendship. People say, don't get

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>into business with like family or friends sometimes, but I

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.239
<v Speaker 1>think it's so special that you were able to have

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>that obviously like life experience with them and then even

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>post career be able to continue to do stuff with them.

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was amazing, Like Balta's probably been the most

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 2>amazing experience for a whole lot of different reasons. You know.

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 2>I guess when we started Balta. We sort of all

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>knew that our careers were coming to an end soon.

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 2>And and as you learn to go through your career,

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 2>you start figuring out that you don't need to be

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent on point every single minute of the

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 2>day to be the best. So you start learning that

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 2>you can do other things. And that one was just

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 2>bolted was just one of those ones where, like, to

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 2>give you the background the story, be derbych was on

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 2>tour with us as well. He just hit me up

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:35.719
<v Speaker 2>in the Cornics club and goes, hey, do you want

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 2>to start a beer company? He's like, yeah, what's the

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>worst can happen? Your free beer? And then Be He's

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 2>like looking at me, goingreaking Joel get involved. I was like,

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:48.959
<v Speaker 2>I can only ask and he loves me more than anyway,

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 2>and so we asked him, and then Bed already talked

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 2>to Josh Kerr and then and then it sort of

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 2>just started from them and the four of us got together,

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>and then there was another guy, Sean Ronan from the States,

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 2>and we all sort of caught up and we're like,

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:12.399
<v Speaker 2>all right, what's what do we need? Like, what's what's

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.839
<v Speaker 2>the plan? Bad had this big idea to start it

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 2>on Straty and I was like, mate, that's not going

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.839
<v Speaker 2>to work because one it costs way too much on

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 2>that ferry and all the rest, and so yeah, we

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 2>all decided to try and figure out if we get

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 2>it here in Corumbon and and then yeah, and then

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 2>it was like, all right, what do we need? So

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>we need one someone good in marketing, so we hit

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 2>up Sterling Holland, who used to do their marketing for Billibong,

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 2>so I already worked with Joel and all that, and

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:50.879
<v Speaker 2>then and then it was like, all right, we need

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 2>a good CEO. And I my my favorite of all

0:34:56.239 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 2>time team managers is a guy called Anthony McDonald. He

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 2>was my red bull athlete pretty much for the first

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 2>ten years of our relationship, and I asked him and

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 2>it all just sort of fell into place here and there.

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 2>And then the next thing, we're like, well, we have

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:18.839
<v Speaker 2>to find someone who actually made really good beer so

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 2>people actually come back. Yeah, you know, we could, we

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 2>could do this gimmick of like surfers trying to make

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 2>beer and it's going to taste like crap and no

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 2>one's going to come back for a second. But yeah,

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:36.279
<v Speaker 2>when we found Scotty Hargrove, it was like all the

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:42.240
<v Speaker 2>pieces came together and then Yeah, it was the beauty

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 2>of it was that because everyone had been so successful

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 2>in all their fields, no one had any ego. Yeah,

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 2>everyone was learning off each other. And that's how it is.

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, you walk into Bolta today and if anyone's

0:35:57.480 --> 0:35:59.760
<v Speaker 2>got an ego, they don't really last that long because

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 2>it's like you just don't fit. You know. When talking

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 2>about our CEO and McDonald, he'd learned the whole industry

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 2>just from going and doing things and learning on the

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 2>fly and and and you know, really immersing himself in,

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:22.879
<v Speaker 2>you know, meeting different brewers, meeting different companies and all

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 2>that sort of stuff. And for me it was great.

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I got to sit in the marketing side of things,

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 2>I got to sit alongside the board, and you know,

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 2>learned people like David Ginjo who used to be the

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 2>CEO of Channel nine. You know, just just sitting in

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:45.240
<v Speaker 2>these circles and just learning. Was just like, Wow, I've

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 2>got lessons that I still carry on today. And and

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>the other really cool thing is that I'm going to

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 2>work my ass off for my mate, and I know

0:36:57.600 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 2>my mate's going to work his ass off for me,

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 2>and that's why we just we just yeah, it worked

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:07.239
<v Speaker 2>really hard and trying and do our best for even

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 2>our staff as well. So that's that's how it all

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 2>came together, and I think that's how it became so successful.

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>So call you get a bit of a crash course

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 1>in business from because of you and what you've been

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:19.240
<v Speaker 1>able to do. Obviously, a lot of people they've finished

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 1>their athlete career and they feel as though you're in

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 1>it for all. Let's say like ten years. You know,

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you go, well, I've lost ten years of experience in

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the real world. It's almost because you've been able to

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>surround yourself with good people throughout it. It's like you

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>almost got a crash course probably within like a year

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:33.319
<v Speaker 1>or two. That would have been ten years worth of

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 1>experience probably outside of it, just because of what you did,

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:37.799
<v Speaker 1>and it would been like it'd been so cool, I

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 1>think because you had been so focused on surfing for

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:42.840
<v Speaker 1>so long that now you had like a different outlet

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>that was like totally new and totally exciting and had

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 1>a massive like bell curve to try to you know,

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 1>understand what you're doing and to do it with friends too.

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 1>It would have been like awesome, just to have that

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 1>experience for first like year two and be like, oh

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.919
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I'm just soaking in everything that's coming my way.

0:37:57.000 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, soaking in a lot of alcohol. Yeah, look, it

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 2>was it was just it was just amazing. Like you

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 2>can't you can't get that from a course exactly. You're

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 2>in the real time. You have to you have to

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 2>make like big decisions and you know, pressure cooker moments

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 2>where you know, we're dealing with other people's money and

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:22.759
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, trying not to lose it. And but

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 2>I sort of see the business world very similar to

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.919
<v Speaker 2>the sporting world as well, is that you know you're

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:33.799
<v Speaker 2>going to make quick decisions and if something goes wrong,

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 2>you have to let it go. You have to just

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 2>keep going and moving forward and maybe evaluate after the

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 2>game or something like that. And I think business is

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 2>similar in that sense, but also too, it's like if

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:52.320
<v Speaker 2>you're working hard and you're giving it everything, then results

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 2>will come one day. You know, it might not be

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 2>a billion dollars here or something like that, but something

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 2>will come out of it. Somewhere down the track. Someone

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 2>might see and go, hey, this person is perfect in

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 2>this role. So it's not just working for today, it's

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 2>working for tomorrow as well.

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>There's a whole persistence is kist gets you a long way? Well,

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 1>we'll getting to the end of this. I've got a

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>few people who wanted to ask you some questions now.

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 1>One of them was, what's the most coveted thing you have?

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:24.839
<v Speaker 1>Is it a surfboard, the trophy? Is it just something

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:26.839
<v Speaker 1>you look back at as like if you if something

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 1>were to happen, like you would want to make sure

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:30.880
<v Speaker 1>that's the one thing you take out of the house.

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh, definitely the family.

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Materialistic yeah, actual person.

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Look, I've got some incredible things, you know,

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 2>obviously probably because Bells is on my bells. It's something

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I really love. I've got some surfboards. I've got one

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 2>from Emma, I got to Jerry Lopez there. You know,

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:11.799
<v Speaker 2>there's just different heirlooms that are sort of collected over

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 2>the years. But yeah, I don't know, I'm sort of

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:19.880
<v Speaker 2>sort of not like crazy materialist. You've got anything, really,

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like you've.

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Got the experience. I feel like you're a man that

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 1>like knows the importance of the experience rather than the

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 1>actual like materialistic thing that comes out of it.

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I'm hopeless of taking photos because I want

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 2>to leave in the moment. And then I gave it

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 2>home at the end of the trip and I'm like,

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 2>so I didn't take that. What did you do?

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.439
<v Speaker 1>It's awesome, tell the great stories the photos, like, don't

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>have any.

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully hopefully someone else took some.

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't want me to ask you about the pipeline.

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:50.280
<v Speaker 1>And while who obviously one of the biggest, most coveted,

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, competitions of the year, and you had to

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 1>win that to win the whole competition for the year

0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:00.760
<v Speaker 1>and like be the champion, and they it was phenomenal

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>the way you handled it, the way it all happened,

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 1>the pressure he was under it to be able to

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>perform at that level. Going back to that day, do

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you remember did you just kind of let it, like

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 1>what offer Doc's back As far as pressure, did you

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 1>feel it on the day of feeling like you really

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:16.760
<v Speaker 1>needed to live up knowing what was on the line.

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 2>If you don't feel the pressure, then you don't really care. Yeah,

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's like streaking into a GF or something

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 2>like that, Like you know what's at stake and you've

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 2>worked your ass off to get there. You've sort of

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 2>built yourself all the way to get to that moment

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 2>in your career, and you know, I was. I guess

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 2>for me, it was like I wanted to go out

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 2>and create my own history. I wanted to be the

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 2>one like, Okay, if I'm going to do it, I'm

0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:50.720
<v Speaker 2>going to do it to the best of my ability.

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to go out there and hope because

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 2>that's not going to get you. No, So I'm like,

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:57.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to if I get an opportunity to do things,

0:41:57.920 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to try and do it the best of

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 2>my and and I think that's sort of where you know,

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 2>it all came down to. It was like, you know,

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like eminem you get one shot at situations

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 2>like it's like you can't rewind it, so just do

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 2>it right the first time. And sort of leading up

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 2>to that day, I had I had feelings I almost

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 2>could have won the World titled of the event before

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:36.400
<v Speaker 2>and I stuffed up and and I got the emotions

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 2>got too much for me, and I just crumbled, and

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 2>so I was like, all right, we're going in that

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 2>final day, We're not doing that again. I've felt these

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 2>feelings and I know what came out of it, and

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 2>I was not happy, So that's why I just yeah,

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 2>And you know, if you put your best foot forward

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 2>and you do your absolute best, then that's all you

0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>can do. It might be the right result, might not,

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 2>but you just go and at least if you know

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 2>you've gone and done your best, you can put your

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:09.319
<v Speaker 2>head on the pillar at night and you don't have

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 2>those two A M nightmares. That's how I look at it.

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Did you have like a feeling of relief like I

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.799
<v Speaker 1>think of whenever big games have happened, when I lose

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, like whenever you win those big games, and

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 1>in this case, whenever you won that big competition, like

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 1>whenever you finished and you were given that the title.

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Was it just like the sigh of relief of like

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I've done it.

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't look at myself as I'm the best surfer.

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I look at it as I was the best competitor. Yeah,

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 2>you know when you got Kelly Slater there, like you

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 2>can't really say you're the best surfer, So yeah, I

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 2>was just the best competitor that year, yea. And yeah,

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 2>like that relief, it's like it's heavy when you walk

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 2>into those situations and you've got not only the pressure

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 2>of yourself. You try not to look at media or

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 2>anything like that, but it gets in. And then you've

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:05.240
<v Speaker 2>got your family and your family sort of tiptoeing around

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 2>you and you can feel it everyone everyone's tense, and

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:15.919
<v Speaker 2>I think that's what makes those moments so special as well.

0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like everyone sort of comes together and you're not

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:21.319
<v Speaker 2>only doing it for yourself, You're doing it for your

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 2>family and your friends and you yeah, you just it's

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 2>just it's like, I don't know, it's almost going to war.

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's on, and that's that's the beauty of

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:39.279
<v Speaker 2>it is just yeah, just what are you going to

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 2>do when when when the time comes, it's like all right.

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 1>It's always chasing that feeling again.

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 2>To you feel like oh yeah, yeah, well some people don't,

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 2>like you know, you meet people that you know, they

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 2>work so hard to get one more title or one

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:58.760
<v Speaker 2>championship or one Grand final, and it's like I'm.

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Good, I'm done. Yeah did the dream.

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I'll see the pub. But yeah, for me, it

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 2>was always like, you know, after my first World Tole,

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I was almost that person, and it was because I

0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 2>just put so much into that first year. It was

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 2>just like I was just exhausted and you have like

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 2>a hangover a fan almost and and then and then

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:28.360
<v Speaker 2>after the you know, you get your energy back and

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 2>you're like, shit, I don't really like being fourth or

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 2>fifth in the world. It's like, I'm going I'm going

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 2>to fight to get myself back to where I want

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 2>to be. And and that's I enjoy the preparation and

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 2>all the stuff that comes along with it. And yeah,

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:52.240
<v Speaker 2>just testing yourself in those situations against the best people

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 2>in your world.

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Persistence is key. Well finish out, mate, what's next? Because

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:01.400
<v Speaker 1>you do you do a lot of things, Mate, you

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 1>do a lot of things, And is there anything that's

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:05.799
<v Speaker 1>spoking your passion at the moment that you are really

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 1>going to launch into?

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Family always comes first in my world, you know, making

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:15.240
<v Speaker 2>sure that you know, only work when he's little fellows

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:17.279
<v Speaker 2>at school. I try and try and be home as

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 2>much as possible. But yeah, at the moment, the probably

0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:24.839
<v Speaker 2>the biggest thing I'm working on is the charity golf

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 2>day that I started last year. So that's that's going

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 2>to be a giant headache coming into that, but it's

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:34.319
<v Speaker 2>it's so rewarding it and people have so much fun

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 2>and last year was just such a great success. So

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 2>that's that's the biggest thing. And then after that under name,

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 2>we'll see Dombleto.

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 1>There'll be something big on the horizon. I can almost guarantee.

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh, who knows, maybe it's just the sun.

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much. I appreciate your time. I seriously an

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 1>absolute icon of this country. You should be so proud

0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:56.360
<v Speaker 1>of what you've been able to do. I know a

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are proud of you and what you represent.

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, just a massive thank you for coming on

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people would have learned something.

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Good, fine, good fine, good chat man and all the

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:08.319
<v Speaker 2>best thing you're created too. Thanks Jon

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:10.800
<v Speaker 1>M.