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Speaker 1: I'm not so good at the rapid part. I get

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Speaker 1: too intrigued by the awesome answers. Now a new EPP

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Speaker 1: is going to drop every Wednesday, so enjoy this shorter

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Speaker 1: style episode of fearlessly Failing hot Seat. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the hot Seat. Matt Sofo aka my BF aka the

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Speaker 1: Boss aka brand new MacBook Pro owner, your current boyfriend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's how we did love that TikTok friend. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: just realized they're doing jack hammering outside. It might come through. No,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, okay, So we thought the pods turned six

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Speaker 1: years old. Actually is it in Australia? Today is the

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Speaker 1: actual birthday of the pot which are happy birth Happy birthday.

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Speaker 1: So I thought I'd just ask six questions. You can

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Speaker 1: answer them, then I can answer them.

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Speaker 3: How is it?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Perfectay? So four minutes done. Go question One biggest lesson

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Speaker 3: It is far more work than you ever think to

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Speaker 3: make a podcast.

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Speaker 1: I tell most people that I coach. It's a full

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is so much work, like all in all,

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Speaker 3: from booking guests to research to editing to post to promoting.

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Speaker 3: Its a twenty step process. Yeah that's yeah.

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Speaker 2: What about you?

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Speaker 1: I would say it's like something like lessons from guests.

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Speaker 1: I learn, like there's a lot of people that have

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Speaker 1: kind of like shared their failure and their success, and

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Speaker 1: they you know, talk a lot about like going after

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Like I think each guest gives me a different lesson.

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Speaker 1: Like the one that sticks in my mind from recently

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Speaker 1: And I was like, excuse me, I think I would

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're brave.

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Speaker 1: I overthink though, But I did a lot of work

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Speaker 1: We're evoking shark energy now, Oh we like that. He's like,

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Speaker 1: Anyway, favorite episode and it can just be what I know.

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Speaker 1: There's literally this is episode seven hundred and forty nine,

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Speaker 2: You can't put me on the spot like that boss.

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Speaker 1: Just a fave guest or a fave one where you're like, actually,

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Speaker 1: a hot seat boss. Yeah, but it's only six questions.

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