Speaker 1: Get a Peter Halley here.
Speaker 2: Welcome to you Ain't Seen Nothing Yet the Movie podcast,
Speaker 2: where I chat to movie lovers about classic and beloved
Speaker 2: movies they haven't quite got around to watching until now.
Speaker 1: In today's guest, Limo, surely you can't be serious.
Speaker 2: I am serious, and don't call me Shirley.
Speaker 1: Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
Speaker 3: I could have been a contender. I could have been somebody's.
Speaker 1: It couldn't be happening right now.
Speaker 3: We ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 2: I've known Limo for about twenty years now. First met
Speaker 2: him around the Adelaide comedy scene. He was doing gigs
Speaker 2: and I think organizing gigs around the stage whilst doing
Speaker 2: Breakfast Radio a FM dominating over there. And then a
Speaker 2: gig came up on the show that I was working
Speaker 2: on before the Game, and we flew Limo in and
Speaker 2: he became such a massive part of that show that
Speaker 2: ended up running for twelve years. He's a fantastic stand
Speaker 2: up also a fantasy broadcaster. Not only is he dominated
Speaker 2: undone A commercial airwaves, but also more recently on ABC
Speaker 2: with Sports brand Stand where he's done an amazing job.
Speaker 2: He also plays Jim in working Dogs, brilliant government, satire, utopia.
Speaker 2: But most of all, when I think of Lima, I
Speaker 2: just think of a cracking bloke. He is such great
Speaker 2: company like he's just joyful to be around. He's a
Speaker 2: natural storyteller. He treats everyone with the utmost of respect
Speaker 2: and warmth to just flows flows from the can want
Speaker 2: to flow. I'm not sure if warm flows that the
Speaker 2: right word is on the tip of my tongue.
Speaker 1: He will feel it in the home.
Speaker 2: But he is just one of those kind of guys
Speaker 2: who's just a pleasure to be around and really enjoyed
Speaker 2: this chat with my Matemo.
Speaker 4: Get my Name is Limo, and my three favorite films
Speaker 4: of all time The Blues Brothers, See the Police, No Man,
Speaker 4: We're Musicians, Pop Fiction, Den's.
Speaker 5: Dead, Baby Dead's Dead.
Speaker 4: And the Life of Brian Now.
Speaker 6: You listen here is not the fut is a naughty.
Speaker 4: But up until two nights ago, I had not seen
Speaker 4: with nail and I.
Speaker 7: Give it a look at that look at that accident,
Speaker 7: flat spot, He's hard accidents.
Speaker 1: They're throwing himself.
Speaker 6: Into the road.
Speaker 7: Plad there throwing themselves into the road escape while as
Speaker 7: idios und road darn it you haven't got a child.
Speaker 8: That is all along the watchtower Jimmy Hendricks and you
Speaker 8: may I know this. Jimmy Hendricks's family had to sing Whitnail,
Speaker 8: and I decided to tighten the use of his songs
Speaker 8: in movies. Discip point of these movies were becoming heavily
Speaker 8: associated with drug culture, and yes, there are plenty of
Speaker 8: drugs in Whittnail and I Drug with Your Beard, Gin
Speaker 8: and red Wine all feature pretty prominently in Bruce Robinson's
Speaker 8: nineteen eighty seven semi order biographical George Harrison produced cult
Speaker 8: classic about a pair of drunken, high unemployed actors in
Speaker 8: the sixties who go on an accidental holiday to the
Speaker 8: English countryside where things go unswimmingly Limo.
Speaker 4: Welcome.
Speaker 1: You ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 4: I hope it is a pleasure to be with you.
Speaker 4: And thank you for finally making me watch with Nla
Speaker 4: and I after all these years.
Speaker 2: What was it that made you choose this film? Was
Speaker 2: it the only film you haven't seen? Or what inspired
Speaker 2: you to watch this one?
Speaker 4: There's I mean, there are a few films that I
Speaker 4: haven't seen that I have to get around to, but
Speaker 4: I chose this one for a couple of reasons. One,
Speaker 4: it regularly appears at the top of all time comedy
Speaker 4: movie lists, certainly lists that come out of the UK
Speaker 4: with nol and I. If it's not number one, it's
Speaker 4: in the top three always. And some people who I
Speaker 4: really know and like and trust love this film, namely
Speaker 4: justin Hamilton, you know well, and Ross Stevenson is also
Speaker 4: a huge fan of this film, so I felt, right,
Speaker 4: I have to It's well regarded as a comedy. I've
Speaker 4: got some good comedy friends who love it, so I
Speaker 4: have to watch it.
Speaker 2: And I have an embarrassing confession as well that I
Speaker 2: had not seen this film until last night. This has
Speaker 2: happened occasionally already on this podcast, which I knew it would.
Speaker 1: This was almost for me.
Speaker 2: The joy of doing this podcast was the rewatch, you know,
Speaker 2: and introduce other people to films that I love, classic films,
Speaker 2: but also the seat films that I hadn't seen that
Speaker 2: I've maybe put on the back burner because it's hard
Speaker 2: to find time sometimes to watch a movie from nine
Speaker 2: and eighty seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is. And you know what I realized
Speaker 4: when I watched this two nights ago, I realized that
Speaker 4: I have actually tried to watch it a couple of times,
Speaker 4: and I've bailed out real early. I started watching it
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, I've seen this, and then
Speaker 4: then I went out, I've tried to watch this before,
Speaker 4: and I stopped, and I've got to be honest with you, it's.
Speaker 1: Kind of hard work. Yeah, well, let's get to whit
Speaker 1: nail and I soon.
Speaker 2: I just want to circle back because I think it's
Speaker 2: a really interesting point and I had a similar kind
Speaker 2: of vibe and it'd be interesting to see if the
Speaker 2: film kicked in eventually for you. But I I just
Speaker 2: want to go back, circle back to your other favorite films.
Speaker 2: So this is about the tenth one of these I've recorded,
Speaker 2: and I reckon half of the people who have guessed
Speaker 2: it on this show. Blues Brothers has come up, so
Speaker 2: a great pick. We're on a mess from guard pulp fiction.
Speaker 2: Tell us about pulp fiction. You love of pulp fiction?
Speaker 4: I you know me, I'm sure like you, And like
Speaker 4: tens of hundreds of thousands millions of other people sat
Speaker 4: in a cinema and were just blown away by that film.
Speaker 4: It was like nothing I'd ever seen before, and to me,
Speaker 4: it redefined what a movie could deliver and how a
Speaker 4: movie could make you feel. And to me, it was
Speaker 4: the ultimate cool movie. It was there was There was
Speaker 4: not a single scene in that film, or a single
Speaker 4: moment in that film that was uninteresting or boring or
Speaker 4: not incredibly freaking cool. And the music as well. I'd
Speaker 4: heard great soundtracks before. I remember loving the Big Chill soundtrack.
Speaker 4: That was one I listened to a lot when I
Speaker 4: was at Uni. But this, the music in this film
Speaker 4: was amazing, and then I was interested to find out
Speaker 4: later hearing Tarantino I talk about the film, he found
Speaker 4: the songs first, and the movies the movie came out
Speaker 4: of the music.
Speaker 1: It's one of the things I love about Tarantino.
Speaker 2: I love filmmakers and then people, you know, television makers
Speaker 2: who take music seriously. And I'm not just talking score,
Speaker 2: I'm talking soundtrack, you know, because it was a while,
Speaker 2: it was a while. For a while, soundtracks were a
Speaker 2: bit of a dirty thing. You know, some people wouldn't
Speaker 2: like the idea of putting soundtracks, you know. It was
Speaker 2: a bit of a scene as a bit cheap. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But the way Tarantino has almost I guess, redefined it
Speaker 2: has been staggering.
Speaker 1: And you know. I mean there were up until then.
Speaker 2: There are you know, a handful of movies that you
Speaker 2: might have the cassette of, you know, or your sister
Speaker 2: may have the Dirty Dancing cassette that was a pretty
Speaker 2: great soundtrack and a Ghost I remember being having a
Speaker 2: few bangers on it. But we had great songs. But
Speaker 2: they were introduced you to all these, you know, songs
Speaker 2: that maybe you'd heard your dad play and you kind
Speaker 2: of go, oh, maybe dad was under something.
Speaker 4: Maybe dad was cool. You're right though that almost some
Speaker 4: of those genres of music were completely new to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah at the time, because I was I was a
Speaker 4: South Australian kid who grew up on a farm and
Speaker 4: had lived in Adelaide. That's all I've done in my
Speaker 4: life up until that point. So there were loads of
Speaker 4: really cool songs. And one of my favorite stories is
Speaker 4: that the scene with with Z and the Gimp in
Speaker 4: The Young Chop, Tarantino initially wanted the music he wanted
Speaker 4: for that scene. Down there was my Sharona by the
Speaker 4: Knack and there were four members of the NAT and
Speaker 4: one of them was a really committed Christian and he said,
Speaker 4: I don't want our song to be played over which
Speaker 4: is essentially a rape scene down in that cellar. So
Speaker 4: they said no and he ended up using it busting
Speaker 4: circles or something. Anyway, whatever the song was they used.
Speaker 4: But how would you be one of the other three
Speaker 4: members of the nat game because at the time I
Speaker 4: probably went here whatever and that it's the highest selling
Speaker 4: soundtrack of all time. Do you owe us? I'm gonna
Speaker 4: medevoo on your.
Speaker 2: And your third or film which also has featured the
Speaker 2: Life of Brian, And there is a connection between these
Speaker 2: two films. It was both produced by George Harritt handmade
Speaker 2: films George Harrison saved. Basically, Life Brian doesn't get made
Speaker 2: without George Harrison. But tell us about Life of Brois.
Speaker 2: Were you raised Catholic? Are you Catholic?
Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent. I was
Speaker 4: raised in a very committed Catholic household.
Speaker 1: So what what did like Brian mean in the Lehman house?
Speaker 4: Uh? You know what, It was never really discussed in
Speaker 4: the house in terms of its commentary on the church.
Speaker 4: Funnily enough, my dad took me to set it at
Speaker 4: the driving in Loxton in Countries out Australia, and Dad
Speaker 4: thought it was hilarious. He laughed from start to finish,
Speaker 4: So I don't know if that was him secretly telling
Speaker 4: me through his laughter that he thought all this Catholic
Speaker 4: was bullshit. But I when I first saw it, I
Speaker 4: was about nine or ten, and it was just stupid
Speaker 4: and funny to me. Then I didn't see any made
Speaker 4: any of the political meaning to it or the religious
Speaker 4: meaning to it. That only came clear to me years
Speaker 4: later when I watched it for the thirtieth fortieth time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was with the same I kind of.
Speaker 2: I was raised Catholic, and it just for me introduced
Speaker 2: that you could be a little bit silly with religion
Speaker 2: with that it necessarily demeaning what it means to yourself
Speaker 2: or the people around you, you know, like my my
Speaker 2: grandparents were, you know, very committed. For me, it just
Speaker 2: meant that you didn't you could have fun with religion,
Speaker 2: and it didn't necessarily have to mean that, you know,
Speaker 2: be offensive to people around you, although it was really
Speaker 2: considered offensive at the time. When we interviewed Eric Idol
Speaker 2: on the project recently I did I went back and
Speaker 2: watched old clips of Life of Brian and some of
Speaker 2: the interviews they had done last Stumbledore on one with
Speaker 2: John Please and Michael Palin and they're talking to two
Speaker 2: like archbishops you know of the time it was, and
Speaker 2: it goes about forty minutes or so, and I was
Speaker 2: just gripped by it, like then, this is basically the
Speaker 2: week it was released, and having you know, this discussion
Speaker 2: about life of Brian with these two guys who just
Speaker 2: were you know, offended, and they it was really funny
Speaker 2: because often in the interview they were saying, this is
Speaker 2: a tawdry piece that we won't Yeah, people won't remember
Speaker 2: this in six weeks alone, you know, six years, and
Speaker 2: knowing it's probably become the comedy you know, I would
Speaker 2: probably say the greatest comedy film of all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's a lovely interview to watch in hindsight.
Speaker 9: And our guest to you as a march and migration
Speaker 9: Mervin Stockwood, the Bishop of Salik'd like to ask you,
Speaker 9: Bishop first, what was your review of the film?
Speaker 10: We penncefull I was big there to think that it
Speaker 10: was we can't get rid of Jesus in Europe today
Speaker 10: Esco Robaina, who I think thought most Communists that they're
Speaker 10: going to get rid of religion very quickly find that,
Speaker 10: as he said, it's going to hang around with us for.
Speaker 4: Quite a long time.
Speaker 10: And certainly when you think of what's the god the
Speaker 10: greatest attractions on the stage, both films and I am
Speaker 10: enacting ever since Jesus greatest Superstar, that's what's drawing the crowds.
Speaker 10: I mean, Jesus is the most disturbing influence. You can't
Speaker 10: get away from him. You may worship him, respect him,
Speaker 10: commit your on act him, or just ridicule him and
Speaker 10: lampo on him, but you simply can't get rid of him.
Speaker 4: I would love to watch that interview, and particularly with
Speaker 4: the context of what we know now about what the
Speaker 4: Catholic Church was up to in the seventies and they
Speaker 4: were critical of these guys making a film, but also
Speaker 4: also they couldn't find funding for the film for this
Speaker 4: very reason, which is why George Harrison stepped in. And
Speaker 4: there's that great line where George Harrison read the script
Speaker 4: and said, I have to see this film, so I'm
Speaker 4: going to fund it. And I think it was Terry
Speaker 4: Gilliam said it's the most expensive movie ticket ever because
Speaker 4: it costs four million quid.
Speaker 2: Because you know, at the end of Life of Brian
Speaker 2: when they're on the cris fixes and there it kind
Speaker 2: of pans out to like a massive wide shot and
Speaker 2: you can still hear him on the cross kind of
Speaker 2: saying this will never work, this will never work. And
Speaker 2: I forget the specific lines, but it's actually in reference
Speaker 2: that there was a particular executive at I think it
Speaker 2: was so and that's basically talking directly to him giving
Speaker 2: a big buck you on the way.
Speaker 4: Out, big plays for money, I earnie, I said, I
Speaker 4: never make that money. So that's that's a movie. That's
Speaker 4: a movie version of Mark Chuck o' williams holding his
Speaker 4: tie up like this, yelling Alan Scott you were wrong.
Speaker 4: After Paul won the flag.
Speaker 1: Finally somebody has made Life of Brian.
Speaker 4: The connection is there, but that talking about the comment
Speaker 4: on religion. There's just so many sweet moments in the film,
Speaker 4: but one of my absolute and this really connects with me.
Speaker 4: And I think about this a lot, especially with in
Speaker 4: things in areas like art, where artists always encourage through
Speaker 4: that music or their art people to be individuals, right,
Speaker 4: and where they all gather around Brian in Life of
Speaker 4: Brian and they're asking him what they should do next,
Speaker 4: and he says, you're all individuals. You don't need to
Speaker 4: follow me, do your own thing, and they all go, yes,
Speaker 4: we are individuals, and I just it reminds me of
Speaker 4: the big day out and watching Rage against the Machine
Speaker 4: and then singing, fuck you, I won't do what you
Speaker 4: tell me, while ten thousand people are doing exactly what
Speaker 4: rage against the machine and telling them to do.
Speaker 1: The connection is there.
Speaker 2: So George Harrison produced both Life of Bryant and Whitnay
Speaker 2: and I, and so good on him for supporting comedians
Speaker 2: out of it.
Speaker 1: Just how did you watch the film? You're cozy up?
Speaker 1: You did?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: Sometimes and I've asked make to do this podcast.
Speaker 2: They've basically watched it on a you know, on a
Speaker 2: night padding bed, or they've they've set it up their
Speaker 2: home cinema.
Speaker 1: How did you watch it?
Speaker 4: I was in the land room at home, so just
Speaker 4: nicely snuggled up on the couch. I've got my couch,
Speaker 4: my wife has her couch, and kel who you know,
Speaker 4: of course, and we got it up on SBS on
Speaker 4: demand and we decided to have our own little movie night.
Speaker 4: Only one of us was there at the end though. Pete,
Speaker 4: which will form part of my review of the film.
Speaker 2: That's interesting because I watched it last night on SBS
Speaker 2: Underman Yeah plug it, and my wife Bridge was, you know,
Speaker 2: she often goes about early you know, she enjoys an
Speaker 2: early night. And I said, are you want to watch
Speaker 2: this film with me? Thinking she'll say no, and she goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll give it. I'll give it a go, and she
Speaker 2: lasted minutes.
Speaker 4: Kel lasted a little bit longer because I had lured
Speaker 4: her in with the idea of this podcast, so I
Speaker 4: thought i'd be I said to her, I'm going to
Speaker 4: talk to Pete about it. Be nice if we could
Speaker 4: talk about it together before I talked to Pete. So
Speaker 4: so she had a little bit of skin in the
Speaker 4: game there, so that kept her connected to it for
Speaker 4: a little bit longer. But she lasted about twenty five minutes.
Speaker 4: I reckon and she just said, I just she said,
Speaker 4: I can't take these two self obsessed, fucking morons any longer.
Speaker 4: And the bet.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, Bridge has a particular dislike as well of the
Speaker 2: London gray but she really really these English TV programs
Speaker 2: or movies that are just gray and dull as far
Speaker 2: as the landscape go.
Speaker 1: You know, she she loves the office.
Speaker 2: But even when she was got in the office, the
Speaker 2: original office, she would go, Jesus, London's gray and miserable,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 1: That part of London?
Speaker 4: There is a real there is a real bleakness to London. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you think like all those classic Yeah, even even Faulty Towers,
Speaker 4: there's kind of there's a bleakness to the setting, you know,
Speaker 4: on the butters. I'm trying to think back of those
Speaker 4: old English sitcoms down but yeah, there's a real whereas
Speaker 4: the Americans know how to inject the popper color.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've most mostly they've moved on. I think you know,
Speaker 2: Richard Curtis helped move them under the show like a
Speaker 2: more vibrant London. But it is, it is certainly a
Speaker 2: miserable It's it's I should point out the film debuts
Speaker 2: of Richard E. Grant and Paul McGann tell you that,
Speaker 2: and I also tell you that both. I must have
Speaker 2: you Normals for your doctor who fan. I'm not on
Speaker 2: a bike.
Speaker 1: I don't watch it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not much of a door. I
Speaker 4: was as a kid. I loved it as a kid,
Speaker 4: but I just haven't gone back to it for years.
Speaker 2: Well they both end up being doctors. Paul mcgah was
Speaker 2: doctor number eight and Richard E. Grant was doctor number nine.
Speaker 4: I had no dear Richard E. Grant was a doctor.
Speaker 1: Well there, yeah, there you go. So okay, So it
Speaker 1: starts off and it's leek. How did you what did
Speaker 1: you like it?
Speaker 4: You know, I watched this film with way too much expectation.
Speaker 4: As I said, it's always rated as one of the
Speaker 4: top comedies. Ever, it's I almost feel it's like a
Speaker 4: It's a Citizen Kane, where I get annoyed by the
Speaker 4: predictability of it being number one on all these lists,
Speaker 4: and I just, you know what, it's a comedy, and
Speaker 4: it just didn't make me laugh heaps like it really,
Speaker 4: it really didn't. And I found it difficult to really
Speaker 4: like the character as much. You know, you had this
Speaker 4: both kind of raging alcoholics who were just useless on
Speaker 4: every single front, and I just didn't see them as
Speaker 4: having many redeeming qualities, and I struggled to warm to
Speaker 4: either of them much through the film.
Speaker 2: It's really interesting that often the conversations I've had on
Speaker 2: this podcast, we will look at you know, the even
Speaker 2: like you know, the honor amongst criminals, for example, even
Speaker 2: like the horrific characters, and we're you know, we've done
Speaker 2: some films, we've covered those things, even like I said,
Speaker 2: like a clockwork orange like to see, there's got to
Speaker 2: be a redeeming feature.
Speaker 1: Yes, there might be in James Dean in where we
Speaker 1: had a.
Speaker 2: Cause he you know, he's in the police station at
Speaker 2: the start and he's being on drump and he puts
Speaker 2: a coat around a young kid and that's just okay.
Speaker 2: There's an act of kindness that you know that he's
Speaker 2: you know, he's got a soul. And there's just there's nothing.
Speaker 1: About these characters.
Speaker 2: And this is almost not a criticism. This is almost
Speaker 2: a compliment that the fact that this has it is
Speaker 2: a classic. You know, whether we liked it or loved
Speaker 2: it or not, it is a classic. And it's it's
Speaker 2: two characters that you don't necessarily warm to. There's no
Speaker 2: there's no features about them that you make you warm
Speaker 2: to them particularly.
Speaker 1: Uh. And then there's no plot. There's no there's no plot.
Speaker 4: I was watching it going thinking to myself, what is
Speaker 4: the point of this film? It's understand why anything's happening.
Speaker 2: It's basically a couple of drunk you're high actors who
Speaker 2: grab a river tree change and and like you think
Speaker 2: of the most shows, you know, movies, your characters will
Speaker 2: have a want and a need, and that they can
Speaker 2: be two different things. Often they are two different things.
Speaker 2: They start off with a want and then they find
Speaker 2: out their need is something different. They've got a purpose
Speaker 2: of motivation, you know, And like like Marlon and finding
Speaker 2: nem A crosses the oceans that these guys you're not
Speaker 2: as you're really besides just getting out of their awful situation.
Speaker 2: You're not sure they're leaving or what they're trying to achieve.
Speaker 4: Oh exactly. And I found myself, yeah, as I said, wondering,
Speaker 4: what is the point. I don't get why they're doing anything.
Speaker 4: I don't get what I'm supposed to be engaged with
Speaker 4: in this story. And then later I kind of when
Speaker 4: I read a little bit about the film and it's popularity,
Speaker 4: I get that it's set against this dreary English backdrop,
Speaker 4: so they're trying to highlight the fact that there's two England's.
Speaker 4: Basically there's the England that these guys live in. And
Speaker 4: I guess that is that perhaps if you lived in
Speaker 4: that England, you'd find a connection point in that with
Speaker 4: these characters and if you understood that England. But yeah,
Speaker 4: everywhere they go, there's just they don't offer anything to
Speaker 4: any show of warmth on any level. So I was
Speaker 4: trying to think about moo movies that this is similar
Speaker 4: to to help me try and understand it. So I'm
Speaker 4: going to give you three movies, okay, and I want
Speaker 4: you to tell me which one you think is most similar.
Speaker 4: Two with Narla and I all three American films leaving
Speaker 4: Las Vegas. And I say that because Nicholas Cage's character
Speaker 4: tried to drink himself to death, and I feel like
Speaker 4: Richide with Narola is trying to drink himself to death.
Speaker 1: Sideways, I love Sideways, one of my favorite films, which is.
Speaker 4: A great film. So you have the two guys go
Speaker 4: away together, yep, and then at the end they realize
Speaker 4: they shouldn't be together. Yeah, right, which is kind of
Speaker 4: a you know, loose connection to with Nayla and I.
Speaker 4: And the other one is Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, I would say Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas,
Speaker 2: which I've only seen the ones again. I found the
Speaker 2: bit pointless body pointless. I think what they're trying to
Speaker 2: do is survive, you know. I think that's what these
Speaker 2: characters are really trying to do. That that's there, that's there.
Speaker 2: You know, they're they're they're freezing their houses off in
Speaker 2: their fact, they've got nothing to eat. They're drinking, you know,
Speaker 2: a light of fluid. The line don't make you drink that.
Speaker 4: Was that was a funny line. I'd den'tmand to have
Speaker 4: some booze. I wouldn't drink that. Why not because I
Speaker 4: don't advise it. Even the wankers on the side wouldn't think.
Speaker 3: That that's worse than myth nonsense.
Speaker 9: This is a far superior drink to myths. Wankers don't
Speaker 9: drink it because they can't afford it. H we've got him,
Speaker 9: what's in your tool box and we have nothing. You've
Speaker 9: got anti freeze, you fool. You should never mix you drinks.
Speaker 4: I did love with the other already have the cigarette
Speaker 4: and led to gather around the cigarette.
Speaker 2: I thought that I thought there were some great lines,
Speaker 2: and we'll come back to some of the lines soon.
Speaker 2: But to get back to your point, I think Sideways
Speaker 2: has more of a.
Speaker 1: Purpose. And the thing that I love about Sideways compared.
Speaker 2: To Whitnaal and I is that Paul Gimati, the comparison
Speaker 2: we can make of them both Paul Giamati often ringing
Speaker 2: his agent he's got this, he's waiting for word on
Speaker 2: his book, and Whitdale and mar Wood is his name
Speaker 2: is his creditors as and I in the credits, but
Speaker 2: his name is actually mar Woods. It's seen upside down
Speaker 2: on an envelope addressed to him, and I only know
Speaker 2: that because I researched it, so we're referred to him
Speaker 2: as Marwood. As Paul McGann's character that they're waiting to
Speaker 2: find out if they've got any work. The thing that's
Speaker 2: interesting about Another Night, we don't know if they're any good.
Speaker 2: Having regeeming features. You could see a temptation to have,
Speaker 2: you know, do a really good audition, but then at
Speaker 2: the start of the movie and then told, nah, you're
Speaker 2: not quite right. You know, these guys are good, that
Speaker 2: we're batting for these guys because they're good, but that
Speaker 2: opportunity we're not.
Speaker 1: We're not given any of that, although though we are.
Speaker 4: But oddly it's the final scene in the film when
Speaker 4: with Now perfectly recites a Hamlet and does it and
Speaker 4: does it beautifully and it's a it's the perfect I
Speaker 4: can't remember exactly what the line is. It's perfect for
Speaker 4: the film and for him, and then he walks off.
Speaker 4: So that's the that's the moment where you go, oh, ship, okay,
Speaker 4: here's you can But it's almost like it's too late. Now, guys, you.
Speaker 2: Can tell us to start listen like the people who
Speaker 2: might love with Now and they're listening to this and
Speaker 2: this is not These are the two blows responding to
Speaker 2: the film that we watched for the first time two
Speaker 2: nights ago.
Speaker 1: So we're not we're not telling anyone how to suck
Speaker 1: eggs or the Tampa with a classic.
Speaker 2: But I wonder if if you had have started with
Speaker 2: to address our concerns in an audition trying to recite
Speaker 2: that monologue and kind of not quite nailing it or
Speaker 2: forgetting it, and then at the end you come back
Speaker 2: to it and he actually nails it. I think that
Speaker 2: would have been kind of really powerful. I think it
Speaker 2: was a beautiful way to end the film, and I
Speaker 2: must if you know. But in the book is based
Speaker 2: on a book by Brice Robinson, who wrote and direct
Speaker 2: the movie.
Speaker 1: He goes he's got a different ending.
Speaker 2: He does that, he does the speech and then goes
Speaker 2: back to his apartment by himself, and he I think
Speaker 2: lights cigarette, pulls himself a whiskey, grabs a.
Speaker 1: Gun and blows his brain. So I may I must
Speaker 1: London get really making the book.
Speaker 4: I'm glad they didn't roll with that in the film.
Speaker 4: That would have really me over the edge if he'd
Speaker 4: blowed his brains out at the end. Although perhaps Pete
Speaker 4: to play Devil's advocate, it's clear that he's very smart
Speaker 4: in the film. Perhaps that is a clue to the
Speaker 4: fact that he's or to the argument that he's good
Speaker 4: what he does.
Speaker 2: Maybe intelligence is different yeah to talent. And I just
Speaker 2: I just found myself wanting to know, are these guys
Speaker 2: actually any good at at acting? Are they living in
Speaker 2: a dream world? Or are they unlucky?
Speaker 11: You know?
Speaker 2: And I thought that would have been something to potentially
Speaker 2: play with. Interesting fact about Richard E. Grant, he is
Speaker 2: obviously playing an alcoholic in this. I thought he did
Speaker 2: a really good job of the drunk actor. Have you
Speaker 2: ever drunk actor?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 1: I haven't.
Speaker 4: I've drunk voiced I did ree Reese Darby got drunk
Speaker 4: and did drunk history, and as part of it, he
Speaker 4: was very far up story. He did a Mexican race caller,
Speaker 4: so I had to voice drunk Rece Derby, so calling
Speaker 4: Farlap in a race in Mexico. Yeah, so drunk res
Speaker 4: Derby doing a Mexican accent. That's what I've done.
Speaker 1: That's great. It's tougher than people would suspect. And Richard E.
Speaker 2: Grant is a Teachotel didn't. I don't think he drinks anymore,
Speaker 2: but well, but he certainly that stage he had never drunk,
Speaker 2: and so he had had The director made him have
Speaker 2: a like a pint of vodka just to give him a.
Speaker 1: Chemical memory. He said he drunk. Turns out that Richard E.
Speaker 1: Grant's allergic to alcohol.
Speaker 4: And really, I said, well, he did do a very
Speaker 4: good job of acting drunk. And another thing you've just
Speaker 4: reminded me that turned my wife off is the relentless smoking.
Speaker 4: She said she found it really hard to watch basically
Speaker 4: chain smoking for the whole night, where she left after
Speaker 4: twenty five minutes, but they changed smoked pretty much for
Speaker 4: the entire film.
Speaker 1: Is that is this Kale smoke or is a nex smoker.
Speaker 4: No, she's never smoked and she's not a smoking I
Speaker 4: just found it hard to watch, and I still have
Speaker 4: the occasional dart and even I looked at it and went, oh,
Speaker 4: that's just just someone. Can we go for two scenes
Speaker 4: without a cigarette?
Speaker 1: It was really wearing me down. That's interesting. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about some of the lines because this movie.
Speaker 2: What I knew about this movie coming into it, there
Speaker 2: was it was very quotable. The people loved particular lines
Speaker 2: and and you know scenes in the film were there
Speaker 2: lines that, Yeah, ou.
Speaker 4: There's a few I liked. I can't get my boots
Speaker 4: on when they're hot. I mean that might me. That
Speaker 4: did make me smile. That's that's pretty funny.
Speaker 1: Was was very funny. When I just placed the chicken
Speaker 1: on the little seat, What are you supposed to do
Speaker 1: with that?
Speaker 3: He did?
Speaker 4: Is alive?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that you've got to kill it the
Speaker 3: fire after on fuel collector. Yeah, I know that. I
Speaker 3: got the lugs in hut looking at it. It doesn't
Speaker 3: I'm starving. I can make a die. You've got a
Speaker 3: throat that I think you should strangle it instantly. In case.
Speaker 3: It's not strying to make friends with all right, get
Speaker 3: hold of it, you hold it down, strangled. I can't.
Speaker 3: It's dreadful, beating eyes this day. It's a bloody chicken.
Speaker 3: Just think of it, bacon across its back. Quite do
Speaker 3: this if you love to get its gut side it.
Speaker 4: There is something I guess relatable about their general hopelessness
Speaker 4: these two. You know that about them running away from
Speaker 4: the guy in that bar.
Speaker 3: I have a heart condition. I have a heart condition.
Speaker 11: You hit me.
Speaker 3: It's murdered.
Speaker 4: I am murdered, A perious.
Speaker 3: My wife is having listen.
Speaker 5: I don't know what my acquaintance did to upset you,
Speaker 5: but it's nothing to do with me. I suggest you
Speaker 5: both go outside and discuss it sensibly in the street.
Speaker 4: Ah okay, so you go. Okay, these are not these
Speaker 4: are not men's men. Okay. These And then they get
Speaker 4: to the farm and they can't do a goddamn thing.
Speaker 4: They cannot They can't light a fire, they can't look
Speaker 4: a chicken. They can't even go shopping and keep the
Speaker 4: shopping in the freaking bag. The scared of a cow.
Speaker 4: There's not there's just no redeeming feature at any point
Speaker 4: with these guys so so, and the yeah, the boots
Speaker 4: being in the oven and being hot, and the chicken
Speaker 4: my thumbs have gone weird.
Speaker 1: That was weird. Yeah, that comes up as a bit
Speaker 1: of a classic line of people love you have weir.
Speaker 4: I'm in the middle of a buddy those and this
Speaker 4: is I did really like this line. Those are the
Speaker 4: kind of windows faces look in at those old windows,
Speaker 4: and I thought, yeah, they are the kind of windows
Speaker 4: that people stare through.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, they're great.
Speaker 2: My favorite is the one I've mentioned in the in
Speaker 2: the in the start is We're gone on holiday by mistake.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a yes, are you the farmer?
Speaker 1: With this We've gone holiday by mistake? When in this
Speaker 1: cottage here are you the farmer?
Speaker 11: Stopped saying that with passing the fucking farmer?
Speaker 1: And when I mentioned earlier as I'll never mix your drinks.
Speaker 2: And by the way, I should actually say what I
Speaker 2: got to the point where I liked this film, like
Speaker 2: I found the early the first twenty minutes tough, but
Speaker 2: what it felt.
Speaker 1: You know, when there's a scene when they get up
Speaker 1: to the farm and they go you see.
Speaker 2: Mar would go for a walk, and it feels like
Speaker 2: the first space you get in that film, and it's
Speaker 2: about twenty minutes in and actually I was breathing in
Speaker 2: the country air because you had the really shitty apartment
Speaker 2: in Great London, and I thought, oh, this is actually
Speaker 2: quite nice. And then finally you go to a house
Speaker 2: and the woman comes to the door and she's just
Speaker 2: as nasty and mean as everyone back in London say, okay,
Speaker 2: we haven't completely that life behind.
Speaker 4: I did. I have the same thought place when I
Speaker 4: saw him walking on his own I had a real
Speaker 4: sense of relief. I was like, ah, right, okay, now
Speaker 4: this is what you this is what you wanted, this
Speaker 4: is why you went away.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think the English are so good. I think
Speaker 2: that the best by far at putting cerebral, the cerebral
Speaker 2: alongside the absurd and the filthy. And I think Money
Speaker 2: Python do a bit like there's a respect for silliness
Speaker 2: and we get away from that in uh, you know,
Speaker 2: reviewing comedy or looking at comedy, or embracing comedy or
Speaker 2: taking comedy in.
Speaker 1: The silliness is so important and even the filthy.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a movie that you know, talks
Speaker 2: and makes you know, whimsy comments about you know, Chekhov's
Speaker 2: The Seagull and then has lines like I feel like
Speaker 2: a pig shat in my head.
Speaker 4: That's funny, that's fine, that's a great line. That is
Speaker 4: a great line, and I may, I may will use
Speaker 4: that line. You can see, you can, I mean, which
Speaker 4: is typical of a cult film. There's loads of great
Speaker 4: lines that you know that groups of friends are regularly
Speaker 4: reciting these lines to each other and have done for years. So, Pete,
Speaker 4: if we lived in London when this film came out,
Speaker 4: I just know that we probably would have loved it,
Speaker 4: and we and our friends would all be reciting lines
Speaker 4: from the film on a regular basis. Still to this day.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I can absolutely see why it's a classic. You know,
Speaker 2: you get to the point when you know you're watching
Speaker 2: films that are much loved and so yeah, sometimes you
Speaker 2: kind of go, this wasn't for me, But you know,
Speaker 2: I think you appreciate why they're a classic. And and
Speaker 2: I've got to say, when I watch The Clockwork Orange
Speaker 2: with Christopher Pane, the first twenty or so minutes, again
Speaker 2: we're tough, you know, and then it starts the branch
Speaker 2: out and you're going to go, Okay, now, I understand
Speaker 2: that the themes start revealing themselves and you start thinking
Speaker 2: about when this was made. And I think I had
Speaker 2: a similar thing with Whitnail, and I just I found
Speaker 2: the first fifteen twenty minutes pretty tough, but once I
Speaker 2: got to the country, I felt, no.
Speaker 1: This is good, and I think I'll watch it again
Speaker 1: and a couple of whiskeys. I must say I got
Speaker 1: halfway through it.
Speaker 4: I yeah, I didn't feel like drinking a whiskey, but
Speaker 4: I think I will go back and watch it again
Speaker 4: now that I've read a little bit about it as well,
Speaker 4: because you think about that. You mentioned the timing nineteen
Speaker 4: eighty seven. This is Thatcher's UK back then, and a
Speaker 4: lot of people during that period were feeling like they
Speaker 4: were slipping through the cracks and there was nowhere for them.
Speaker 4: And then you look a look at this film. There's
Speaker 4: a great imagery of them driving off with a wrecking ball,
Speaker 4: wrecking ball knocking a building down behind them. Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: almost like saying, yeah, this you knew of, this place
Speaker 4: isn't for you anymore, and this is where and developers
Speaker 4: are going to come in and you won't be able
Speaker 4: to afford what's going up here, and then they get
Speaker 4: to the country and everyone in the country hates them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, where do we belong?
Speaker 4: Where's our place? Where do we fit into all of this?
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 2: And then there's there's the Uncle Monty played by Griffiths,
Speaker 2: who has just the most incredible face. Really, he's only
Speaker 2: thirty nine in this movie.
Speaker 4: That is unbelievable. He looks he looks sixty.
Speaker 1: So if you don't know the name Richard Griffin, you
Speaker 1: know him. He's in the Harry Potter films.
Speaker 2: He's lots of stuff, and he's such a great presence,
Speaker 2: and he's often over the top and in a really
Speaker 2: lovely way. And so this character was based on a
Speaker 2: French director that Bruce Robinson worked with when he made
Speaker 2: a production of and Juliet that kept on kind of
Speaker 2: coming onto him, and a lot of the lines in
Speaker 2: the movie are based almost verbatim from this French director.
Speaker 1: How did you did you enjoy Uncle Monty? Did you
Speaker 1: get for you?
Speaker 5: It?
Speaker 11: Did?
Speaker 4: It did get a bit uncomfortable for me, Uncle Monty. Look,
Speaker 4: I was angry at with now for setting him up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The starts like putting Uncle Monty onto onto him just
Speaker 4: to get him out of his own hair. I mean
Speaker 4: that really made me. Thank God, not only do you
Speaker 4: not have any redeeming features, you have characteristics that make
Speaker 4: me actively not like you about with Nail, And then
Speaker 4: I just I just wanted Marwood to properly tell him
Speaker 4: to get stuff that was annoying me that he kept.
Speaker 2: It's almost a common English politeness, isn't it, Like even
Speaker 2: when you were yeah, yeah, they've been come on to
Speaker 2: buy this, you know, like, let's face it, pretty filthy
Speaker 2: kind of dude that you still can't just say fuck off, mate.
Speaker 2: I'm to an extent I felt like Uncle Monty. There
Speaker 2: were times where I laughed, and there were times when
Speaker 2: I went, oh, it's a real rollercoaster, like the scene
Speaker 2: where with Nail goes and sleeps in his own bed
Speaker 2: and then my uncle Monty locks the door and says,
Speaker 2: you know, trying to the very lightest, trying to seduce him.
Speaker 2: Really it's I just literally two nights ago finished Rodan
Speaker 2: Pharaoh's book Catching Pill, and I know you're bad as well.
Speaker 1: I was in a headspains and going, oh, yes, this
Speaker 1: isn't right, this isn't.
Speaker 4: And he also had Marwood had on the classic massive
Speaker 4: white Bob catches that I think were the only underpan
Speaker 4: on sale for ever until about the mid nine nineties.
Speaker 2: I don't mean the vicdom blind, but I already had
Speaker 2: two experiences downstairs with Uncle Monty.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll be sleeping in the andes. I
Speaker 1: think I would have been jeans.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeah, but again it it just further highlighted
Speaker 4: how defenseless and futile Marwood's existence was.
Speaker 3: I had to come.
Speaker 1: I tried not to.
Speaker 3: Oh, I tried not to, said Monty, something I have
Speaker 3: to explain to you.
Speaker 6: You needn't explain. He's told me everything. He told me
Speaker 6: that first day you came to Chelsea. You told me
Speaker 6: about your arrest on the top of the Court Road.
Speaker 6: He told me about your problems, how you feel, your desires, problems, problems.
Speaker 6: You are a toilet trader. He told me that you
Speaker 6: mustn't blame him, You mustn't blame yourself. I know how
Speaker 6: you feel, how difficult it is, and that's why you
Speaker 6: mustn't hold back. Let it ruin your youth, as I
Speaker 6: nearly did over Eric.
Speaker 1: It's like a tide.
Speaker 4: Give into it.
Speaker 11: It.
Speaker 4: It's society's crime, not ours. I'm not on a sexual
Speaker 4: Yes you are, you are. He couldn't, he couldn't nothing,
Speaker 4: he could make nothing work, Nothing could ever work for him.
Speaker 4: And the one time that you found yourself kind of
Speaker 4: cheering for them, and I can see, I can imagine
Speaker 4: this would be a very loved scene in the UK
Speaker 4: because it highlights the class differences. Is when they went
Speaker 4: into that cafe with all those up themselves. People were
Speaker 4: all dressed very nicely and they got kicked out of
Speaker 4: the cafe and they were basically telling everyone to get stuff,
Speaker 4: and they called the police on them, and I thought
Speaker 4: I could see people would love that scene. Yes, they'd
Speaker 4: be surrounded lots of people in who enjoyed this film
Speaker 4: would be surrounded by those we're not surrounded by, but
Speaker 4: they have interactions with those types of people and they'd
Speaker 4: want to tell them the funk off, but they wouldn't,
Speaker 4: So that would be a really enjoyable scene.
Speaker 2: And what I enjoyed about that scene was was probably
Speaker 2: the only, possibly the only time you saw Whitnail just
Speaker 2: genuinely just crack up laughing like this seemed like he
Speaker 2: was having a really good time, which I when I
Speaker 2: over enjoyed that, And then I was reading a bit
Speaker 2: about the film afterwards, and that was he was actually
Speaker 2: a corpse in he couldn't literally Grant couldn't hold us straight.
Speaker 2: There were dogs barking off in the distance and it
Speaker 2: was making him laugh and the director so but I
Speaker 2: thought it was a really lovely moment because you know,
Speaker 2: again these little moments we can get, like, you know,
Speaker 2: make a character and deeming, they're they're few and far
Speaker 2: between with wit nail, But that was a nice That
Speaker 2: was a nice moment.
Speaker 4: It was great and you were talking about lines in
Speaker 4: the film. I did think Kell and I did so
Speaker 4: this is when Kurl was still watching it at the start.
Speaker 4: It was interesting to watch that opening sort of fifteen
Speaker 4: minutes in the apartment whilst having been in isolation ourselves,
Speaker 4: because that was like that version of living in isolation
Speaker 4: in that apartment. It was like it was like isolation
Speaker 4: hell in that apartment.
Speaker 2: It's one of the points I wanted to make and
Speaker 2: it's it's it's a little trick of art design, which
Speaker 2: I think is a really cool thing to look out for,
Speaker 2: and I think people watching films would take this in
Speaker 2: subconsciously absolutely, and that's what it's designed to do. But
Speaker 2: I'm going to point of that, because I think it's
Speaker 2: almost a metaphor for the environment in COVID nineteen. So
Speaker 2: you see the apartment with nails and Marlbor's apartment at
Speaker 2: the start, and it is an absolute hellhole. And then
Speaker 2: they go away and they they have you know, it's
Speaker 2: not a great experiences face, it goes pretty much bong shaped.
Speaker 1: But they come back.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they've grown own a tiny bit
Speaker 2: as people, and all of a sudden the apartment this
Speaker 2: seems nicer, it seems seems yeah, and no reason they
Speaker 2: would have gone home and cleaned up.
Speaker 1: But it's just that nice little thing that art departments do.
Speaker 2: Are this going You see it often and you may
Speaker 2: not take it in I think so constantly you would
Speaker 2: where their world has just gotten a little bit better,
Speaker 2: a little bit better. I think it's I think it's
Speaker 2: the metaphor for the environment COVID nineteen is if you
Speaker 2: take people, you know, out of the out of the environment,
Speaker 2: the environment might just clean itself up a little.
Speaker 4: Are you You know what You've made a very good point. Well,
Speaker 4: the environment is cleaning itself up, an't there dolphins swimming
Speaker 4: around Venice at the.
Speaker 10: Moment and.
Speaker 4: There's dolphins in the Yarra, there's got the tigers. Are
Speaker 4: no lines sleeping on the road to Kruger National Park anyway.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you're right, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 4: take that in watching it. I was too distracted by
Speaker 4: the drug dealer in the house and his mate, who
Speaker 4: was I don't know, trying to make some sort of
Speaker 4: connection with that globe he was rubbing again again.
Speaker 2: How time time has changes certainly some some certain racial
Speaker 2: terms that we probably wouldn't use.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, very foolish works man.
Speaker 2: Danny's an interesting character in a way because it makes
Speaker 2: me like, so often when you are scripting either a
Speaker 2: movie or TV series, you are I feel sometimes I
Speaker 2: haven't worked overseas, I've only worked in Australia for as
Speaker 2: you know, writing, but sometimes we overthink how to introduce characters,
Speaker 2: and I think Danny's just there. We don't know how
Speaker 2: they really know Danny. Yeah, we don't know if they
Speaker 2: like Danny, are they friends or you know, it seems
Speaker 2: like they're put upon by Danny. But I think the
Speaker 2: character it kind of works. He's funny, he's got some
Speaker 2: you know, space out theories. Yeah, but others and the hair.
Speaker 4: And oh yeah, hair is hair is how aliens can
Speaker 4: get messages into you.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's that's one of these theories that there's
Speaker 2: the first things I think he says when we when
Speaker 2: we're meeting him.
Speaker 1: So, so you think you will watch it again?
Speaker 4: You know now that I get this, You know, now
Speaker 4: that I've read more about it and I understand a
Speaker 4: bit more about the commentary on politics and the commentary
Speaker 4: on class, I might go back and have a look
Speaker 4: at it again. And now that I've got one viewing
Speaker 4: out of the way, there's a lot of expectation on
Speaker 4: that viewing, which is why I always say that I
Speaker 4: love seeing My favorite way to see a film is
Speaker 4: to know nothing about it, but not even having seen
Speaker 4: the trailer, in fact, not even really knowing the genre.
Speaker 4: I love just to go bang and everything is a
Speaker 4: fresh experience. Whereas this, I'd heard too much about it
Speaker 4: too many years, so the expectation was too high. But
Speaker 4: I think I will go back and watch it again.
Speaker 4: And Danny the drug Dealer, doesn't he have the great
Speaker 4: libraries refers to the sixties as the greatest decade ever. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and it's it's late in nineteen sixty nine, So you know,
Speaker 4: that's over the decade. Ever, that's nearly over. We're about
Speaker 4: to move into some really bleak period in our lives.
Speaker 4: And the other way to look at that is to go,
Speaker 4: he goes, it's the greatest decade ever and the lives
Speaker 4: are fucking terrible. So gee, how would you be going
Speaker 4: if it was the worst decade ever?
Speaker 2: So we know, and I I think we've covered that
Speaker 2: has been. Has it been in a thing you have
Speaker 2: seen recently that kind of has whether it be on
Speaker 2: TV or or the movies that they've blown your way?
Speaker 4: Umm, now you're only talking about movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be TV. Well, you know, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 4: I'm watching the Michael Jordan documentary. That's just yeah, that's
Speaker 4: really blowing my mind. I've watched in while in lockdown.
Speaker 4: I've watched season three of Ozark's, which I love, but
Speaker 4: which I love, but I feel like it's Breaking Bad light,
Speaker 4: you know that's.
Speaker 2: I watched the first episode or two of those actually,
Speaker 2: you know, a year or two ago, and and I
Speaker 2: thought the same thing. I'm not even through the entire
Speaker 2: series of Breaking Bad yet, but I should watch Breaking
Speaker 2: Bad for a start. Ozark because I think I think
Speaker 2: I'm watching an inferior version.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, but it's but it's good, but it's no,
Speaker 4: it's no Breaking Bad. And speaking of Breaking Bad, I'm
Speaker 4: watching Better Call, Saul. I've watched the first three and
Speaker 4: a half seasons, right a Better Call, which I'm loving.
Speaker 4: It's it's got heart and it's funny and it's you know,
Speaker 4: just just beautiful characters and it's cool as well, and
Speaker 4: you can see the connection with Breaking Bad. I'm really
Speaker 4: enjoying that.
Speaker 2: Well, Breaking Bad certainly got better when Saul came into
Speaker 2: that world. Yeah, yeah, and just befroreably let you go
Speaker 2: aften ask people what your first film you saw was?
Speaker 2: What was at least your first memory of a film
Speaker 2: you saw.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I reckon. So there's two answers to this. Because
Speaker 4: I got up in country South Australia, we only had
Speaker 4: two television channels, and so movies that felt like movies
Speaker 4: were repeated a lot. So I remember, specifically, I don't
Speaker 4: know why, watching The Bridge over the River Koi, which
Speaker 4: got replayed a lot for some reason, and also the
Speaker 4: sound of music as well. So they were just movies
Speaker 4: I remember from my younger childhood but going to the
Speaker 4: drive in with dad. Dad, the one that took us
Speaker 4: to the drive in. I remember seeing Rocky at the
Speaker 4: driving with Dad and that was a real and I
Speaker 4: I loved it so hard. So that's a really clear,
Speaker 4: great memory for me. It's better than my memory about
Speaker 4: six years later of seeing as a thirteen year old
Speaker 4: boy seeing Flash Dance at the cinema with my mum. Now,
Speaker 4: that is a sexy film and a thirteen year old
Speaker 4: boy doesn't need to be said it with his mom.
Speaker 1: I reckon, what your dad did? You to see Rocky?
Speaker 1: He would have felt like Dad of the year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: As you may have thought, I reckon, I've messed up here.
Speaker 4: It was a very quiet walk out of the cinema
Speaker 4: and car trip home after that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was Movies were a big part of
Speaker 1: the Lehman household, like growing up.
Speaker 4: Not really to be honest, because because we only had
Speaker 4: the twoelevision channels and we got a video recorder I
Speaker 4: think in nineteen eighty two, but the vi closest video
Speaker 4: store was a one hour drive away and we don't
Speaker 4: go to Loxton once every two weeks, so when we
Speaker 4: hired a video we had to have it for two weeks,
Speaker 4: so we had one. We'd watch it heaps. So I
Speaker 4: remember when we first The first three movies we got
Speaker 4: when we got our beout chess recorder were Class of
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty four, which is a really violent sort of
Speaker 4: school film, Young Doctors in Love which is hilarious, and
Speaker 4: Life of Brian.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 4: They so those three films I remember being so excited.
Speaker 4: They were the first films we watched on our video recorder.
Speaker 1: I remember the first three films we got.
Speaker 2: And this was from a friend who had a video
Speaker 2: for years and basically was a basic video pirate, and
Speaker 2: they they had this massive cabinet. I used to love
Speaker 2: going over the house and the scene, the titles and
Speaker 2: these were just like very neat with the way they
Speaker 2: wrote it. And so they said, I just take a
Speaker 2: few videos, and we took Return of the Jedi. And
Speaker 2: this is like a little bit later on, so this
Speaker 2: is about eighty seven or so. Yeah, we got Return
Speaker 2: of the Jedi. We got mask Eric Stoles, yes, beautiful
Speaker 2: film we share, and a film called Dusty which was
Speaker 2: like almost a prototype for Red Dog. It was a
Speaker 2: strange film, a red copy which it was pretty good.
Speaker 1: Actually.
Speaker 2: Mamphis no River might have been in there as well,
Speaker 2: which we'd already seen. But the damn any change you
Speaker 2: got the watch of MAMSONO River.
Speaker 1: You took it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you took it absolutely so.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So the films I watched as a kid, I watched
Speaker 4: a lot. Yes, we had had we had them for
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks before we took them back to
Speaker 4: the video store.
Speaker 1: And now you have a son, laddie, how to movies
Speaker 1: play a role in your relationship?
Speaker 4: If at all that they played, they play a babysitting role.
Speaker 4: So when he likes one, when that is a major win.
Speaker 4: So he so films he has, He's three and a
Speaker 4: half films he's loved so far, Nemo and all the
Speaker 4: other films that come with it, Toy Story one, two, three, four, Uh,
Speaker 4: the recent Cat and the Hat with Mike Myers. He's
Speaker 4: really into that for whatever reason. And then it's all
Speaker 4: just things like you know, poor Patrol, Shawn, the Sheet,
Speaker 4: Peter Rabbit, et cetera. Curls yelling one out to me.
Speaker 4: Monsters inc A.
Speaker 1: University was pretty too.
Speaker 4: Actually, I don't think he's seen my dad might if
Speaker 4: they get him onto Monsters University. And and he's and
Speaker 4: my wife is really into Star Wars, which.
Speaker 1: You might already know that, God bless yes.
Speaker 4: And so we've got all these Star Wars bath toys.
Speaker 4: So he keeps banging on about seeing Star Wars. So
Speaker 4: he's watched the beginning of Star Wars quite a few times,
Speaker 4: but it starts getting a bit much for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he might want it might be another year
Speaker 2: or so away, but yeah, start work is pretty innocent,
Speaker 2: like the only thing that I would want about Star Wars.
Speaker 2: But if he's already, if he's seen the start of it,
Speaker 2: he may have already seen it. The scariest thing when
Speaker 2: I watched Star Wars at first was Darth Vader entering
Speaker 2: the you know with the Stormtroopers and the sound of
Speaker 2: his you know, the breathing, and I found out and
Speaker 2: then outside of that, I don't think Embi Strikes Back
Speaker 2: is darker, but I reckon Star Wars.
Speaker 1: You might be able to get away with it reasonly soon. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I like.
Speaker 4: My favorite thing to come out of it is if
Speaker 4: I'm playing with him and we're doing whatever. Let's say
Speaker 4: there was yesterday we had just two drumsticks and we
Speaker 4: were pretending to fight monsters, he will just randomly out
Speaker 4: of nowhere. He'll grab a drumstick and he would go
Speaker 4: Daddy Darth Vader, and he'll jump up like he's a
Speaker 4: Stormtrooper and hold the drumstick like it's a gun. And
Speaker 4: then I'll have to do the opposite and stand opposite
Speaker 4: him and hold my drumstick like it's a gun, and
Speaker 4: we pretend Darth Vader walks through in between us.
Speaker 1: That is awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's but when movies really connected for me.
Speaker 4: I went to boarding school. We used to get one
Speaker 4: movie every Saturday night that all the borders could come
Speaker 4: and watch. And the one the one I really remember,
Speaker 4: watching His Trading Places that I love out of films
Speaker 4: we watched there. But when films went to the next
Speaker 4: level for me is when I went to UNI and
Speaker 4: I was at a residential college, and me and my
Speaker 4: group of friends were just in love with all of
Speaker 4: the Monty Python film so we used to watch them
Speaker 4: over and over and over, and we knew every line
Speaker 4: from every film, and we would go out and we
Speaker 4: were terrible company for anyone who was in us because
Speaker 4: we would just recite the lines over and over and
Speaker 4: over again and do the voices and everything else.
Speaker 1: They given me my first erection. Yes, the Meaning of Life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the sex education, yes, yes, you know, with his
Speaker 2: wife in front of the classroom.
Speaker 1: I just remember thinking, why is why are my pants
Speaker 1: feeling funny?
Speaker 4: It's a really, it's a really it's kind of hard
Speaker 4: to watch, but very that one. It's funny. That film
Speaker 4: The Meaning of Life, for some reason hasn't ever quite
Speaker 4: got the same love that Quest for the Holy Grail
Speaker 4: and Life of Brian have got.
Speaker 2: But it's just I prefer it more than Holy Grail,
Speaker 2: to be honest. And maybe because I watched it more,
Speaker 2: maybe because it just random have it on tape. We
Speaker 2: taped it off the television and we end up watching
Speaker 2: that more than Holy Grail.
Speaker 1: But I I really, I really like it. I think
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's got the restaurant scene with the
Speaker 1: you know, the vomit, and that's which is.
Speaker 4: Just one of the great just see that that line
Speaker 4: just another way for I still say that line to
Speaker 4: this day. Right if I'm out to dinner with friends,
Speaker 4: or even if I'm at home with kel and She'll
Speaker 4: go on full and I go we just a with her,
Speaker 4: just you know, there's there's a hand you know, there's
Speaker 4: a handful of movie lines. It's just stick with it.
Speaker 4: There are on a high rotation through your whole life,
Speaker 4: and that's one one of them. For me and John Clice,
Speaker 4: who I'm sure you've met. You've met John Plice, right,
Speaker 4: you would have.
Speaker 1: I interviewed him recently this last year, like last year, so.
Speaker 4: I interviewed him on the project. So it must have
Speaker 4: been a night that you went on. And I was
Speaker 4: talking to him in the green room before the show
Speaker 4: and I said to him, I mean, I just shake
Speaker 4: my head at myself when I think about this. We're
Speaker 4: talking about month, we're talking about Faulty Towers, which, let's
Speaker 4: be honest, is one of the most beautifully crafted pieces
Speaker 4: of comedy ever. And he spent him and Penny Cook
Speaker 4: spent years on these scripts, years and they are watertight.
Speaker 4: And this goes to Sheldon lovely bloke he is. I
Speaker 4: said to him, and I can't even remember what which
Speaker 4: episode it was, but I said to him, Hey, you
Speaker 4: know the such and such episode. I always thought it
Speaker 4: would have been great if this character had done this right.
Speaker 4: Can you believe if I said that?
Speaker 1: Can you believe it?
Speaker 4: Right? And he goes and he laughs and says, oh,
Speaker 4: what a great idea. I wish i'd thought of that,
Speaker 4: and then I thought about it later on. I thought,
Speaker 4: what a sweet, beautiful man when he when he really
Speaker 4: should have turned around and said, you're you're telling me
Speaker 4: that the greatest comedy ever has got a few holes
Speaker 4: in it?
Speaker 11: Is that what you want?
Speaker 4: Is that what you're me?
Speaker 1: And yeah, George Harrison's number, I've got a few.
Speaker 4: Yeah, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for chatting movies and now night
Speaker 2: and taking the effort to watch the film. I notice
Speaker 2: is the podcast it asks a little bit more than
Speaker 2: just rocking up. Well, I'm glad you know that you
Speaker 2: may watch it again. And I'm glad you finally said
Speaker 2: me go back to Russ Stevenson and Justin hab On
Speaker 2: and say, you know.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think appropriately with Nola and I could be
Speaker 4: like a fine wine. It will improve in my mind
Speaker 4: with time, and I'll go back to it again now
Speaker 4: that I understand some of the themes and characters a.
Speaker 1: Little bit better.
Speaker 4: So absolutely so thanks for putting me onto it, and
Speaker 4: thanks for making me watch the whole thing, because if
Speaker 4: I didn't have the pressure and expectation of this podcast,
Speaker 4: I may well have bailed on it again.
Speaker 1: Wow, job done, Thank you so much, and and we'll
Speaker 1: catch you around.
Speaker 4: Thank you mate.
Speaker 11: I have a lad wherefore I know not lost all
Speaker 11: my mirth, And indeed it goes so heavily with my
Speaker 11: disposition that this goodly frame there seems to me a
Speaker 11: step promen True, it's the.
Speaker 7: Most excellent canner heavy look you it's brave or hay fermament.
Speaker 7: This majestical frajet with golden far Why it'd appear it's
Speaker 7: nothing to me but a far and pestilent congregation of
Speaker 7: vapor us. What a piece of work as a man,
Speaker 7: How noble in reason, how infinite and faculties, How like
Speaker 7: an angel and apprehension?
Speaker 1: How like a god?
Speaker 7: The beauty of the world, pagan of animals?
Speaker 1: Yet to me, what is this quintessence of dust man?
Speaker 7: The lights?
Speaker 1: Not me, no nor women neither No women know.
Speaker 9: So there you go.
Speaker 1: That's another episode of you Ain't seen Nothing yet in
Speaker 1: the can That reminded me of.
Speaker 2: The episode where I chatted the Regil core. But about Castaway.
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed Castaway. Rachel was less infused, And then
Speaker 2: the more we spoke about it, the more she I
Speaker 2: think enjoyed in hindsight Wknail Nafe and Lean myself was
Speaker 2: a bit like that, but both of us were kind
Speaker 2: of like talking each other around a bit on that.
Speaker 2: So I look forward to to watching it again. Thank
Speaker 2: you to everyone who has helped this podcast together. Derek
Speaker 2: Myers from Casways Studios dot com, my podcast manager. You've
Speaker 2: done a great job, Derek. We're doing a great job.
Speaker 2: Dan Movies dot com dot Au, Jimmy and Tom at
Speaker 2: Circustry Sounds, and everyone who has just reached out to
Speaker 2: say how much they're enjoying the podcast. I've just got
Speaker 2: a couple of letters to just read parts of the
Speaker 2: first one is from Lindsey Keipwait, and she contacted us
Speaker 2: at Yasney Podcast dot com Yasney Podcast dot com, and
Speaker 2: Lindsay says, hey, Pete, I really enjoyed the podcast.
Speaker 1: I watched the movies before. I listen to it fun
Speaker 1: right now when I need it, when we need it.
Speaker 1: I'm a fellow.
Speaker 2: Victorian, and yes, hello, particularly to the Victorians in a
Speaker 2: pretty hard lockdown.
Speaker 1: Numbers look pretty good today, so hopefully we'll be out soon.
Speaker 2: Lindsay goes under say, I don't expect every podcast to
Speaker 2: be a feminist deconstruction, but discussing Casablanca as problematic without
Speaker 2: mentioning that Bogart walks off at the end, all ready
Speaker 2: to become BFF for the serial rapist Captain Renault, was
Speaker 2: pretty gross.
Speaker 1: The racial issues didn't get to mention either.
Speaker 2: Bergmann refers to it to the fully grown man Sam
Speaker 2: as a boy until she recognizes him.
Speaker 1: I hope that's helpful feedback.
Speaker 2: I'll still listen, but I think it makes it more
Speaker 2: interesting when you discuss the questions that are raised when
Speaker 2: you view an old movie with today's eyes. I hope
Speaker 2: you're your family. Well, miss you are the best. Lindsay,
Speaker 2: Thank you, Lindsay. I tell you what I love about
Speaker 2: your email. We are so used these days when people
Speaker 2: have a gripe or an issue they want to raise,
Speaker 2: it is done in a often a vitriolic, sometimes irrational fashion.
Speaker 2: This was a really considered email, and you know and
Speaker 2: I will take it under an absolute advisement.
Speaker 1: Oh. I will point out that when we're often.
Speaker 2: We watch these movies the night before, and that's how
Speaker 2: I encourage my guests to do it. So it is
Speaker 2: not at all supposed to be a full movie review
Speaker 2: where we kind of really completely deep dive into all
Speaker 2: the facets of the movie. It is really it's about
Speaker 2: at least at least the guests and often me as well.
Speaker 2: And this is the case with Catablanca, really processing a
Speaker 2: classic film that we just saw. So sometimes we don't
Speaker 2: catch capture or the essence or all the issues of
Speaker 2: the day. But with that said, thank you for your email,
Speaker 2: and I will endeavor to be across more of that
Speaker 2: stuff down the track. I think we can, you know,
Speaker 2: and I think the podcast where is Sincere is genuine
Speaker 2: and funny, and I think all these things can co exist.
Speaker 2: So thank you Lindsay for that email. I hope you're
Speaker 2: well to the next correspondence I got.
Speaker 1: Is it really touched me? And this is going to
Speaker 1: be the final of this season.
Speaker 2: If you ain't seen nothing yet, We're just going to
Speaker 2: take a short break and lune be a few weeks
Speaker 2: just to record a few more just.
Speaker 1: To get ahead of the curve, and then we come back.
Speaker 2: We've got great people lined up, Naked Belbo, Sam Mack,
Speaker 2: my good friend from Canada, Adam, Christie Ross, Noble, Matt Preston,
Speaker 2: Tony Martin are a few people who have confirmed for
Speaker 2: season two, but we're going to release a special one,
Speaker 2: an additional episode on Sunday with Bob Murphy watching watch
Speaker 2: Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. One is because it's the
Speaker 2: buye for the before the AFL final, so we thought
Speaker 2: it would be a nice time to sort of that.
Speaker 2: I was going to hold it off for season two,
Speaker 2: but I got this letter from Annil Warren and it
Speaker 2: really touched me. When I released this podcast, I was
Speaker 2: hoping that it would be something that would give people
Speaker 2: something to do because they're bored in Lockdown, and you
Speaker 2: know a lot of people I sense might be into
Speaker 2: the idea of watching classic movies and catching up on
Speaker 2: those the gaps, filling in the gaps in their filmography.
Speaker 2: For this one really touched me. Hi Pete, She says,
Speaker 2: I just want to say thank you for making your
Speaker 2: Yasni podcast. I'm sure you've had a lot of great feedback,
Speaker 2: but I just wanted to say it has helped get
Speaker 2: me through a really tough time. I was diagnosed with
Speaker 2: a very encanced the week we went into Lockdown two
Speaker 2: point zero in melbody and now going through chemo.
Speaker 1: It is so good to have something easy to listen
Speaker 1: to that makes me think and laugh.
Speaker 2: I really love movies, so I knew I would love this,
Speaker 2: but I didn't realize that you knew so much. I
Speaker 2: just love listening to you talk about your knowledge of
Speaker 2: the industry and the people you know with such warmth
Speaker 2: and fondness. My favorite episode so far was the Shrek
Speaker 2: episode with Dave O'Neil. I love listening to you guys
Speaker 2: talk about the castle and take away, and she says,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for the long message. It wasn't you can
Speaker 2: keep writing for as long as you want, Adelaie. There's
Speaker 2: a lovely words. I love watching you on the project
Speaker 2: and hope you know how much joy you bring to people.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Aili, and I did respond personally to Anilae.
Speaker 2: I hope you're doing well, and I just wanted to
Speaker 2: let you know that this episode on Sunday with Bob.
Speaker 1: Murphy, which we recorded little while ago, but we're releasing
Speaker 1: it for you.
Speaker 2: I want to take a couple of weeks off to
Speaker 2: get more episodes recorded, so we're not chasing a tale.
Speaker 2: But when I got that, I just thought, let's get
Speaker 2: one more, at least one more out, and I will
Speaker 2: will endeavor to keep the break short so we'll be
Speaker 2: back with more movies.
Speaker 1: For you to watch. So thank you so much, and
Speaker 1: good luck, stay stay strong.
Speaker 2: I can only imagine it's a horrible time to be
Speaker 2: going through chemo during lockdown. My wife who was in
Speaker 2: hospital for only a couple of days with a flag flight,
Speaker 2: it was frightening for a few days and.
Speaker 1: Not being able to be there by her side to
Speaker 1: being in the hospital was tough. And that was literally
Speaker 1: a couple of days and everything turned out to be fine.
Speaker 2: So it gave me a very very small insight into
Speaker 2: how hard it must be for those who have loved
Speaker 2: ones in hospitals and and fighting the good fight.
Speaker 1: So Amalie, I hope you are doing as well as
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 2: And Sunday's episode of Bob Murphy and I discussing Bushcasing
Speaker 2: and the Sundance Kid will be for you until then,
Speaker 2: love you all, see you next time.
Speaker 4: And so we leave Old
Speaker 6: Pete see Mansel, and to our friends of the radio audience,
Speaker 6: we've been a pleasant good name.