1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Well, after several months on a rickety boat, we are 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: back back to civilization. It was nice. It's a nice trip, 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: a little bit of a cultural immersion. Well. Yeah, also, 4 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: after a recent trip to the doctor, I think I 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: might have copped a dose. 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: If you do a shoey. 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Shoey is a bit of a different thing. I think 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: it was drinking from the furry cup. So how are you? 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: What's going on? Did you want to do the intro 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: to this? Do you want to? I'm sick of being professional? 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: When did you start doing that? A long time? Yeah, 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 1: let's let's chat. Let's shat car stuff. So that'd be fun. 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: We're going to find out later this episode what you've bought. 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I bought a car. Yeah. Car. One thing 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: I did notice when we were in Croatia, in your 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: tiny village, there was a new car that I got 17 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: to see which was really quite an interesting one. I'd 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: never heard of it before, but it actually exists, The 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three goat car. That is good. The twenty 20 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: twenty three goat car. 21 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 3: For those of you watching at home, it's a goat 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: in a cage and a man sitting on the cage. 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the cage has wheels and it's actually got 24 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: a steering wheel and everything. That was a real actual 25 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: thing they used in nineteen oh nine. There you go, 26 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: judging by your village twenty twenty three, which is good. 27 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: But yeah, the goat was fun. That's probably explains why 28 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: a coop to dose. Yes, yeah, but nothing's nothing really 29 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: to report, apart from some new wheels coming up, which 30 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: is going to be in our car review. 31 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: Yes, well we actually we also checked out downstairs fresh 32 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: off the back of our big SUV comparison, the land 33 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: Rover Defender. Yeah, what did you think of that? That 34 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: was the ex Dynamic HC. 35 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, all the bells and whistles, end of top of 36 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: the line. I think they've always looked great. I said 37 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: to you when you came in that in a lot 38 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: of ways, that looks better than the top speck was 39 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: the vlaire La sorry VLA. Yeah, I just think I 40 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: think they look fucking great all black in tho yours 41 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: is white. In all black, it looks fantastic with the 42 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: sort of the gas can option at the side there. 43 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: I think they look amazing inside. Yeah cool, I don't know, 44 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: I just have this. I'll just have this thing there 45 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: are a lot of money for what they are, and 46 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: I know every sort of brand has their lemon. You 47 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: know that old saying of go into the desert with 48 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: a land Rover, come out with a land Cruiser, you 49 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I've always kind of thought there 50 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: are a lot of money, and every brand will have 51 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: a lemon. And you know, you could buy a BMW 52 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: and it could have nothing like it could have heaps 53 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: and heaps of stuff wrong with it over and over again, 54 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: or you know, but I just it's all too common 55 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: in these cars to me. 56 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: Yes, Well, for me, I like the fact that you've 57 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: got five year warranties, so if there are problems, it's 58 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 3: sort of all taken care of. I don't know, I 59 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: would prefer to have a car that I like and 60 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: enjoy and love sitting in that potentially has issues than 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 3: one that is just sort of boring. Like this is 62 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: the thing that people say about the Highlus right, you know, 63 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: you can't kill them, blah blah blah. 64 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: And the Ranger has had issues since it's. 65 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: Launched, including yours or TOBC. 66 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, to me, it's like, well, I don't want 67 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: to be bored to death for five years driving a highlugs. 68 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: I'd much prefer to drive something interesting that I like 69 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: that has problems rather. 70 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: Than something boring that I'll just never enjoy. 71 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. 72 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: I think it's a bit of a sort of catch 73 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: twenty two, but it was actually genuinely great off road. 74 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: This one has the off road pack, so it has 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: high adjustable suspension, It has a center and rear diff locks. 76 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: It is just an impressive vehicle off road, all trained tires. 77 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: So God, there's a bloody clap that he caught from 78 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: the showy. 79 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: It was the Danish that you forced down my throat 80 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: this morning. 81 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: Literally did not force that down in Australia. That was 82 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: my Danish. 83 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: I did not want to eat. 84 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: You literally stole my Danish. 85 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 2: You are a feeder. 86 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: I wasn't going to start this sh I wasn't going 87 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: to start the show because you stole my fucking day Diish. 88 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 3: I think it's for its purpose, it does well, but yeah, 89 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: you're right, I think with reliability there are question marks 90 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: over that stuff. 91 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: How it goes long term. I don't know. I'd like 92 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 2: to own one just to see what it's like. 93 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, which is annoy me if I had 94 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: to keep going back to the dealership to get stuff fixed. 95 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: I think the Defender is probably my favorite out of 96 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: all of them. I think it's the best looking one. Yeah, 97 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: but do you reckon he's pretty rugged looking. Well, I 98 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: think it's also a mixture of both. Yeah, it is 99 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: rugged looking, but it's also such a sleek and sexy 100 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: looking car. Like it's not that kind of it's not 101 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: rugged in the sense that it's like book moody, boisterous. 102 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: It's like it holds its own it's got a real. 103 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree. 104 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: Anyway, I did set you a challenge. I said, bring 105 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: in a car that bring in a car that is sexy, 106 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: and you said okay, and then you brought in your 107 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: goat Mobile and I said try again. And then you 108 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: brought in this, which was way cooler. So you know 109 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: what I was thinking, maybe at the end of this episode, 110 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: set a challenge and I'll come to the party. You've 111 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: done it before and I've come to the party, all right, 112 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: all right, see here you go. Anyway, Car News News, Oh, 113 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: the BNW concept touring coop. So this is sort of 114 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: a bit Z four looking. 115 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: But also very random and not expected, I thought, because 116 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 3: car companies have stopped kind of doing coupeys. It's just 117 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: been sorry, not coupe's concepts, and it's just been a 118 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: bit sort of you know, they just do a concept 119 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: but then it's actually a production car, whereas they don't 120 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 3: do this sort of stuff anymore. We have a coach 121 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 3: built a vehicle like this that that just looks out 122 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: of this world, and. 123 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: At the first glance it almost looks like fan art. 124 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: It does. That's what I was saying when I first 125 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: saw this. 126 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: I just somebody's sort of knocked something together three dai. 127 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: But to think they've actually created this in person and 128 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 3: like actually presented it to the public, I think is 129 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 3: pretty cool. They don't typically do that unless there is 130 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 3: some intention to potentially do something like this in the future, 131 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: and they're obviously not confirming anything, but you know, I 132 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: just think it'd be kind of cool. It's still a 133 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: two seater. All this does is just gives you a 134 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 3: little bit more load carrying capacity. But I just think 135 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: it's a really sort of fascinating look into what they. 136 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: Sort of might do. So BMW said. 137 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: The concept during Coupe shares its name and draws its 138 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: inspiration from the three two eight touring coupe from the 139 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 3: late nineteen thirties, which won the Millairmgli Meat Miglia Melair. 140 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: This is what happens when Paul does a shoeing gets 141 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: a tickley throat. 142 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a bit too far east from my 143 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: country to pronounce me race in nineteen forty. The concept 144 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: is also said to pay homage to the first BMW 145 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 3: to wear the touring badge, the two Shooting Break from 146 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: the nineteen seventies. 147 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you reckon? There's parts that I love 148 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: and there's parts that I'm a bit like, Ooh, I 149 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: think all in all, I think it's very cool. The 150 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: front looks a bit odd. The front looks weird. Yeah, 151 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 1: the front looks a bit sort of almost old. That's 152 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: what made me think it was possibly fan ar't I do? 153 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: Like the really aggressive The fact that they put such 154 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: big aggressive gills on the side on such a small car, 155 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: I think is actually cool. But then you go around 156 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: the back and you're like, whoa, what is this car? 157 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: It's like a completely that's a work of art. Yeah, 158 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: Like that looks like it's the back of one of 159 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: their M three wagons. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. 160 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: They didn't mention the Z three M coupe anywhere. That 161 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: was a thing that looked like a shoe that they produced. 162 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: And the other thing as well that I find you 163 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: interesting the fact that this was done basically on a 164 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: platform that's shared with the with the Supra, so the 165 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: Z four is obviously a super beneath the skin and 166 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: vice versa. I just wonder whether that means Toyota might 167 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: get a bite at something like this as well. 168 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: Hope, what do you think Toyota would do something like this? Well, 169 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. 170 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: If BMW has done it with that platform and they 171 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: share that platform, perhaps that's a thing that's going to happen. 172 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: But you never know. 173 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: It does look cool, doesn't it. Yeah. I like the 174 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: fact that I like them. I like how they've kind 175 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: of rounded the back on the inside yep, so you 176 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: can really load this thing up. But it does look 177 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: like it's even the back has been kind of like 178 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: the load space. You look at it and go, that's 179 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: actually a work of art. Like they've really concentrated on 180 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: how that looks, whereas a lot of generally it's like 181 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: not many people pay that much attention to how the 182 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: boot looks. Do you know what I mean, though generally 183 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: they'll put boot like fucking nets in or. 184 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: Well it uses Italian leather for that rear section, oh handcrafted. 185 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: I like Italian leather in my rear section. Lit. So yeah, 186 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: let us say what you reckon. I'll put that up 187 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: on socials as well as the goat car up on 188 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: socials and you can let us know what you think. 189 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: I'll switch one you'd buy, yeah, goat car or the coupe. Oh. 190 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: You know what I saw during the week was one 191 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: of the old Volvo station wagons. I can't remember the 192 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: actual number of it, but you know the ones I'm 193 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: talking about, right, like the old school wagons. I think 194 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: they came generally in a blue or whatever whatever. There's 195 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: a guy over in the UK, like this dude is 196 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: fucking loaded, right, but he's he's like the old aristocrat 197 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: looking guy. He's got one of these cars and he's 198 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: put it. He's colored in like a almost like that 199 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: racing green British green, Jaguar green, and he's redone the 200 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: seats in it tan. Fuck. It looks so good. I 201 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: must find that. I'll send it to you. But I 202 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: just saw an old Volvo ad volver. I just saw 203 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: an old Volver. Is that Donna? Is that leather Draymoor? Well, 204 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: I know Paul likes a lo lip Jesus. So moving 205 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: on to the next one, which I just caught my eye. 206 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: An ex Apple engineer has been charged for stealing self 207 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: driving secrets for China. China, Yeah, so what's happened here 208 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: is the US Justice Department of Justice has filed charges 209 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: against a former Apple software engineer for allegedly downloading and 210 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: passing on large quantities of the American companies technology in 211 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: relation to self driving cars to a Chinese company. 212 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: And Apple was or is still working on a long. 213 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: Overdue self driving car which was dubbed Project Titan. So 214 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: the former Apple engineer has been identified by the charges 215 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: as thirty five year old Wabo Wang, and was Agape 216 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: was a former Mister Wang was a former resident of 217 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: Mountain View, California, who began working for Apple in twenty sixteen. 218 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: So I'm just having a look here at this story. 219 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: So only a few months later, mister Wang accepted a 220 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 3: job with a Chinese company that was developing self driving 221 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: car software, but according to the indictment, he didn't inform 222 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: Apple of his new role. For more than four months, 223 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: and then he proceeded to access large amounts of data 224 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: on Apple self driving car project before his access was 225 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: cut off on his last day with the company. So 226 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 3: I obviously would have had a notice period of three 227 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 3: or four months or something. 228 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: That is so dodgy. That is so dodgy. 229 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: Apple then reported the theft of the FBI. 230 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: And when the discovery was made, the US federal agents 231 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: raided his home in June twenty eighteen, finding a large 232 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,359 Speaker 3: quantity of data. 233 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: Stolen from Apple. Wow. 234 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: Crazy, and then it goes on to saved. I thought 235 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: it was fascinating. It was alleged that shortly after the raid, 236 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 3: mister Wang departed on a flight to China. 237 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: Went straight to the motherland. 238 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so not typically on China, But this is what 239 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: governments and companies around the world are concerned about when 240 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: it comes to this sort of corporate espionage. You get 241 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 3: these people employed in these car companies and companies in 242 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: general stealing information that they then feed back to countries 243 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: that want to fast track development of these technologies. And 244 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: you can imagine the amount of money that Apple is 245 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 3: tipped into this to then have some bloke just download 246 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 3: it all and away they go is just crazy, isn't it. 247 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: It's interesting, isn't it. It's like data bridges of like 248 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: this have been going on for a fair while lately. 249 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: How do they stop it? 250 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: You can't really, I mean, you can have people you know, 251 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: and again, this is what governments around the world are 252 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: frightened of. When you become, you know, someone who is 253 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: blackmailed by another country or something like that, you are 254 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: then forced into stealing this information. If you're smart about it, 255 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 3: they would never know because if your job there is 256 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: driverless car technology, you can hoard data over a long 257 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: period of time secretly and have it vanished without anyone 258 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: ever knowing. 259 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,599 Speaker 1: This guy you know a little bit too much about this. 260 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: This could explain why why we've seen the court system 261 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: of late Yes. 262 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 3: So yeah, I just think it's really fascinating and I 263 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 3: reckon this. This isn't the first time, won't be the 264 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: last time. Data breaches will keep happening, and it's it 265 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: really is up to companies to better manage the data 266 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 3: and make sure that it doesn't go bye byes. 267 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: Would surprise me if this happens quite a bit. Maybe 268 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: it's just catching a lot of press because it's going 269 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: back to China. There's a lot of bad press about China. 270 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: You won't hear me saying a bad thing about China. No, 271 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: I will welcome our overlords with open arms byd and 272 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: I will quite happily drive whatever they're are putting on 273 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: the table and play the guitar doors and whatever they want. 274 00:13:54,640 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: By the way, our next story. I instantly thought to 275 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: you when I saw this sere we go, Was it 276 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: a man with a giant penis? Close? Was that documentary 277 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: that you and your wife man with the biggest penis 278 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: with the world's biggest penis? I thought, can you guys 279 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: stop watching my home videos? Yeah? 280 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: So this one is driver of rented lambeau flees scene 281 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: after running out of talent and crashing into a dealership. 282 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: So close. 283 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: But so this happened in Sydney, and you know Sydney 284 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: better than I do. But apparently a bloke was driving 285 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: a rented Lambo Huracan and somehow lost control of it. 286 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: And the footage has come out since then of losing 287 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: control of it. 288 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: And this just happens to be right near my house. 289 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: And venient thing is that this all keeps stacking up 290 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: and pointing towards you. Mmm, just because I remember you 291 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: promoting some of this stuff. 292 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: Oh look, I might have made a TV appearance about 293 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: something like this recently. I wasn't going to I wasn't 294 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: gonna bring it up. Thanks for bringing up. It seems 295 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: like you endorse all this sort of stuff, which is good. Yep. 296 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: So look if the next episode of The Driver shows 297 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: a little bit late, I'm just doing five to twenty 298 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:14,479 Speaker 1: in Pentridge. 299 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: That's not a strip club. 300 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: That's not a strip club. But well someone's getting fucked. Yeah, 301 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: very good. 302 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought, just as an aside to the 303 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: moron that was driving this car, I thought it was 304 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: really cool to see the images from the firefighters who 305 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: published all of this, and their attents at rescuing the 306 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 3: vehicle and making everything safe. It was really cool to 307 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: see them hard at work here getting it all set up. 308 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: They had these frames and ratchet straps just to make 309 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: the scenes safe before they could remove all the cars 310 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: because it was quite an awkward position. The Lambeau crashed 311 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: into it, sort of flipped the falcon up onto its side, 312 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: and then the hurricane was mounting it effectively. 313 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: So have you got have you got this your little website? Yeah, 314 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: so it's a car Experts dot com. Are you okay, well, 315 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: let me just cli yes wow. 316 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 317 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: So it's it's quite a remarkable achievement that I've been 318 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: able to make it all safe. So it shows you 319 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: that all the training they actually go into, sometimes in 320 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 3: the most random ways, actually pays off for them, which 321 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: is good to see. 322 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, as opposed to the training that that Lambeau driver 323 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: had zero of very little by the looks of it. 324 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: By the way, where he's where he's driving. I actually 325 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: know I know that car yard, that actual car yard 326 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: I bought when I first moved to Sydney. I needed 327 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: like a car just to last me sort of six months, 328 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: and I bought a car from that car yard. And 329 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: it was a it was a bloody oh my god, 330 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: it was a friggin' Kya. Remember the coops with the 331 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: k Yeah, yeah, and this black thing and oh my god, yeah, 332 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: smell like cigarettes. It's good car though, you go far back. Yeah, 333 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: So it's interesting I crashed a Lambeau into it also. 334 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: From Yeah, but look, it's well, I don't know if 335 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 3: they've found the driver, and I don't know if anyone 336 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: has any more information on this. If you do get 337 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: in touch, contact at the Drivers Show dot Com today. 338 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 3: You'll be curious to know whether they found the driver, 339 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 3: because if it was rented, surely you would have their details. 340 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: But mind you I had. 341 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: I saw this story on Reddit about a guy who 342 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 3: when Turo launched in Australia, he rented out his M 343 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 3: two on Turo. Oh, guy came valid license, everything was okay, 344 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: came time to return the car. Car never came back 345 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 3: at all. Yeah, it was just stolen. And obviously Toro 346 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: has insurance and all that sort of stuff. But it 347 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: just shows you that even if someone turns up with 348 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 3: the driver's license to rent a vehicle like this, if 349 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: they're driving like that, they crash it and they run away. 350 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're running away, you clearly probably know. 351 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: That you're not going to get caught otherwise, or just 352 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: come straight to your house unless they were intoxicated or something. 353 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 3: I don't know, but yeah, I'll be curious to see 354 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 3: how this one actually ended up. 355 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: Interesting mob, good people, good people. Can you remember on 356 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: a preview this is let's go. I just want to 357 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: go off cars for two seconds because I think it 358 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: would be of interest. We've brought this up before. Can 359 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: you remember a while ago, we were talking about we 360 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: both like watches, right, and we were talking about I've 361 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: got an Amiga Speedmaster the Moonwatch, right, and then Swatch 362 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: brought out like an Amiga collaboration, which I thought was 363 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: just crazy. I mean I think it was they watches 364 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: at retail for like three hundred and eighty bucks. It's 365 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: basically a piece of plastic and I was like, why 366 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: the fuck would anyone buy a piece of plastic watch 367 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: because what they were doing was reselling them for like 368 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: eight hundred, nine hundred bucks. Well, I'm that fucking idiot 369 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: who bought that Moonwatch, and I'm wearing it right now. 370 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 2: There you go. I didn't notice that earlier. 371 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I basically bought it just because I thought 372 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: it was a fun watch. And to be honest, I 373 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: got a pretty good price on it. So it just 374 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: eight thousand dollars yeah right, I actually paid less for 375 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: my actual Amiga Speedmaster and your new car. Yeah yeah, 376 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: I just thought it was like a fun daily But 377 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a bit. I don't know, what 378 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: do you what do you make of these sort of 379 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: collapse I don't know. 380 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 3: I just think that given the demand, I mean, you 381 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 3: saw the lines they had and the resale obviously it's popular, 382 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 3: so I mean, I think we'll see more of that. 383 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 3: That's probably going to pave the way for them, because 384 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: I think those collaborations tend to cost a lot of 385 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: money to set up, but if you can get an 386 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: investment return, and they're obviously high margin as well. Well. 387 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: The guy that sold this to me is like a 388 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: professional reseller, so he's got like a a shop if 389 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: you like, but he'll fly all around the world. Not 390 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: all around the world, but he'll fly generally. He will 391 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: he'll fly rationally, but he'll fly around Sydney, Melbourne wherever 392 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: these are launching and whatnot, and he'll sort of resell 393 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: them because he's basically puts price on. Say you buy 394 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: the watch is retailing at four hundred bucks, and he 395 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: sells it for eight hundred. He'll justifire going, well, you 396 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: can't really get them. Plus I had to wait in 397 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: the queue for half a fucking day, so you kind 398 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: of save. But yeah, no, it's interesting, like they even 399 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: the version of this they did like a it's called 400 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 1: like moon Dust or some crap. It's basically just a 401 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: gold hand on it and they're selling for like twelve, 402 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred bucks. It's like, anyway, this is my version 403 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: of an NFT. How are your en? He's going all right? 404 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 3: Next news story? Oh god, that was the last news story. 405 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: So let's talk about our car review. Oh yeah, let's 406 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: talk about that. 407 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: The twenty twenty three Subaru Outback Sport XT Prices start 408 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: at forty six thousand, six hundred ninety dollars for the 409 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 4: Entry all wheel drive to fifty five nine hundred ninety 410 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 4: dollars for the XT Toury. 411 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: Gordy, this is the car you bought, isn't it? Yes? 412 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: Go on Q for some underwhelming responses. The twenty twenty 413 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: three Subaru Outback or Will Drive Sport X team. Never 414 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: thought I'd own one, but here we are. Yeah, girls, 415 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: go girl, look out, elite dad bod coming through. 416 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 3: I actually really liked the Outback. I recommended my in 417 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 3: laws by one. 418 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: They bought one. They do sort of caravanning and stuff 419 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: with it. 420 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, I just think it's a It's a good 421 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: compromise if you don't want an suv, which some people don't, 422 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 3: but you still want all the space and a higher 423 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 3: ride height, so it ticks all those boxes. And finally, 424 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: it's turbo charge, which means it's not slow like the 425 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 3: old one was. 426 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there was a few reasons why I bought 427 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: it too. Was one because I did I wanted an SUV, 428 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: but there's none I really liked. I think for the 429 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: price and for the stats of this fifty eight thousand 430 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: roughly drive away one hundred and eighty three kilos three 431 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty meters of talk. Those numbers make me cry. 432 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: But whatever five year warranty on this look. I think 433 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: for me personally, I wanted a car that I can 434 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: chuck the kid in, chuck the wife in the boot. 435 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, chuck the family in the car and go 436 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: to places like the snow or whatever, and do road 437 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: trips and stuff like that and it come out in 438 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: a reasonable nick. I think they're a great car. I mean, 439 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: they're built really well. They just feel quality from the 440 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: moment they sort of jump in. And I didn't want 441 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: the top spectauring on purpose. I actually think this looks 442 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: better with the black rims and black font. 443 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 2: Highlight and highlights. 444 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: Makes me feel sporty, even though when I get out 445 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: of the car, I'm clearly a man that sits in 446 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: a studio with another bloke and eats danishes. Yeah, look, 447 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: I think And look also the sport trim on this. 448 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: On the inside, it's kind of like a it's weird. 449 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: It's like a leather but it's not and I like that. 450 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: I wanted it to be something I can durable wipe 451 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: down when when you let the wife out of the 452 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: boots I was going to say, when I have a 453 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: midnight wake. But all right, But they're kind of renowned 454 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: as being a bit of a daggy car, but for me, 455 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: I think they're great. They look really good too, and 456 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, they do have a bit of go anywhere, 457 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: like if I wanted to drive it to the side 458 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: of the country. In this it's quite a capable car. 459 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: It's quiet too. That was the one thing that surprised me. 460 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: There's a fuck all road noise in this. I will 461 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: say the things I do love about it too. The 462 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: infotainment's really good on it, and I think it's like 463 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: the screen's nice and big, and I am going to 464 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: miss the physical climate control. I do sort of you know, 465 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: you've kind of got to go into the screen a 466 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: bit for that, which is a bit annoying. 467 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: But it's very roomy. 468 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 3: I was surprised by how much room there is in 469 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 3: the second row and in the boot, Like it is 470 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 3: enormous for what it is. 471 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: And that's the one thing I've noticed since having a 472 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: kid too, is kids with them carry a lot of baggage, 473 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: like more than my wife, and they just carry a 474 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: lot of stuff. And so yeah, we just wanted a 475 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: big boot for that. There is a reason there's a 476 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: I think price point wise too, this is great because 477 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: what roughly fifty eight thousand drive away, and I think 478 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: for that price, what you're getting is I don't think 479 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: it's a bargain, but I don't think it's it's overprized 480 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: at all. I think the fuel economy was a bit Yeah, 481 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: what are you averaging? It's it's sort of higher than 482 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: the naturally aspirated one. Well, I think they was saying 483 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: in the stats, I think super is claiming around about 484 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: I think it's yeah, well, I think they're claiming less. 485 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: I think they're claiming like eight nine. I was doing 486 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: more like twelve. 487 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 3: About twelve is what you'd expect to get out of it, 488 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 3: because yeah, well the second you turbo charge it, yeah, 489 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: here we go. So nine with the turbo but yeah, 490 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be more than that. 491 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, it really is. But look, I think 492 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: it's a solid car. It looks good. The paint looks 493 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: I've got the I don't know what the official color 494 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: for the dirty looking green is, but that's the one 495 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: I've gone for. 496 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: So do you get yours from a dealer? What was 497 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: the wait time? 498 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: Like? Yeah, shout out to suber Ud Chalora, big shout 499 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: out to those guys, because the wait isn't too long, 500 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: Like I'm getting this as we record, I'm getting it 501 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: in July. 502 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: Yep. Okay, it's not too bad. 503 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. 504 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeap, Yeah, that is good. 505 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: I think the wait time is excellent. God, considering my 506 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: brother has been waiting for his Toyota Brado, Yep, he 507 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: has waited. At the moment was speaking yesterday, he's waited 508 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: eighteen months for that. Oh my god, that's insane, isn't it. 509 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: Like that is ridiculous. My dad bought a land Cruiser 510 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: and was waiting like that sort of time for it, 511 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: And I remember just seeing them. He was one of 512 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: the first I reckon around to order them. And I 513 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: remember seeing heaps of them on the road in Sydney. 514 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, Dad, where's your car? I'm seeing heaps of them. 515 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: What's going on? He goes, Oh, I've seen one or two, 516 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: Like nah, send them everywhere? Yeah, yeah, So I don't know. 517 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: I thought. I thought the wait time is really good, 518 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: and that's kind of what got me over the line 519 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: as well. I think times in general are starting to improve. 520 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 3: Obviously you've got your edge cases like Toyota, which can't 521 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: seem to get manufacturing right, but everyone else is getting 522 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: much better now with weight times, especially the Chinese brains. 523 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 3: You've got stacks of those cars available now without having 524 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: to wait at all. So the taype I was two years, 525 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: which I was like, well, they're now improving that because 526 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: they've got an extra stock allocation. 527 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: So I think they've shaved like a year off the 528 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: wait times. That's good, yeah, which pretty good. Twelve months 529 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: to wait for one of those, not bad, not bad, 530 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: I'll do that good size. Yeah, So what do you 531 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: think of this car? 532 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: Look? 533 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: I really like it. 534 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 3: I think that it is just the way to go 535 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: if you don't want an suv, and I think that 536 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 3: it is a good all rounder. 537 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: So I ca't to see what you think about the 538 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 2: infotainment system. 539 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 3: Longer term, because I find it fine, but it was 540 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: just a little bit fiddly at times. So I'll be 541 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: curious to see how that goes for you. 542 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, the climate control really is the big thing. I 543 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: mean once, once you've got car playing this, it's fine, 544 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think, I just I 545 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: think it works good. The wireless Apple car play too. 546 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: For some people, it's neither here or there. For me, 547 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: I love it. I think it's where we should be. 548 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: I can't believe we're not. It's such an easy thing 549 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: to just jump in, not think about happy, very happy, 550 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: very good question. What would your Camakazi car be? So 551 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: if you could have one car, that is probably the 552 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: worst financial decision ever, but you didn't care, what would 553 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: you do? What would you go? Ooh that is a 554 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: hard one. Yeah, that is a really hard one. Unlimited money. 555 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: I think that would defeat the purpose of a Kamakazi car. 556 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. 557 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 3: Just looking at the resale of them, I think the 558 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 3: Defender would be fun because the resale isn't great. 559 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: Really, I'd go something a little bit more Porsche. 560 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 2: That Caman GT four was great, but why is that. 561 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: A Kamakazi car because basically I can't afford it. 562 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 3: Oh okay, So the title of the segment is tell 563 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 3: me about a car you can't to forward. 564 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: Tell me a car that you know I shouldn't buy, 565 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: but I really want to buy that I probably could. 566 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 2: I think it needs to be a classic as well. 567 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, So for me, if we're not doing just new cars, 568 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 3: mine would be something like a Lambghina Kuntage because you 569 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 3: know that it would be so much fun to drive 570 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 3: and just so cool, but probably very expensive to run 571 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 3: and maintain and highly unreliable. 572 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: Yes, I think that'd beat me. 573 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: Actually, I've always wanted a Toronto XU one. I mean 574 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: the resale there's so ridiculously overpriced. 575 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: Yep, especially for a good one. 576 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, for a good one. And there's so many like 577 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: tribute or replicas out there. But I'd just have a 578 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: genuine x U one GTR And it's like they're even 579 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: in the door cards They've got like the it's almost 580 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: like a checkerboard. Look, it's such a cool car as 581 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: time goes on, and something like that would be a 582 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: bit of a massive pain in the ass to maintain 583 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: and actually, to be honest, saying this out loud. I 584 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: don't think it would actually drive that great. Probably wouldn't. No, No, 585 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of those older cars wouldn't. If 586 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, if I'm being completely honest, it would. It 587 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: would just be upsetting to drive. Yes, you know when 588 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: you've got like a hero car and you get into 589 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: it and you're like, yeah, this does drive like nineteen 590 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: seventy two. Yeah, but I would I would probably buy that. 591 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, fair enough. 592 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: Well, anyone listening contact at the Driversshow dot com today 593 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 3: you let us know what your camera Carzi car would 594 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: be over the socials as well. 595 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: Do you have any socials to read out? 596 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: Let's have a little There's a guy who writes to 597 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: is on our Instagram, dms, every single app. 598 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: I think it's Is it Trevor? 599 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: No? Oh god, don't get me started. What's Trevor? Do 600 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: you know you and Trevor have this fascinating thing in 601 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 1: common when when you call me and you're at the studios, 602 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: you both say I'm down stairs. I remember picking up 603 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: the phone to fucking Travelong and I'm just like hey mate, 604 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: and he just goes I'm downstairs, and I go down 605 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: there and there's this guy disheveled guy with like speed 606 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: dealer Sonny's on and he's got his T shirt tucked 607 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: in and he's got these real like wrap around blind 608 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: men's style fucking sunnys. He just like he just makes 609 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: me laugh. Yeah. No, there's a guy called George Moore. 610 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: Shout out to Georgie. He always goes, Yeah, another episode, 611 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: and you didn't answer my question that I've been asking 612 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: every single episode. And the funny thing is, I just 613 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: we're not going to answer it today either. 614 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: What is the question? 615 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I've got to go that far 616 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: back in the every fucking look at this. What was 617 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: the first thing people? I think it was there was something. 618 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: I think he was the one. He was probably the 619 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: original one who asked about merch. It's probably Daniel. We 620 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: get a lot of stuff sent to us, which thank 621 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: you for that. By the way. Actually here's a little 622 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: bit of a who from Intrigued Coop. Shout out to 623 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: Intrigued Coop off road Ford Mustang raptor rumored. 624 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: Oh and it's no joke. 625 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 3: Ford Mustang Raptorm of the Electric ond or the normal 626 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: one report in the US. 627 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: Oh I don't want to read, Oh I don't want 628 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: to read this because of the article of who it's by. 629 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: Oh oh, then it's not true. I don't want to 630 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: get sued again. 631 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to get sued again. In fact, 632 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to read that article. I'll read the headline. 633 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: That's enough. I haven't heard anything about it. Have you 634 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: heard anything about it? Yes, And you have a car website, 635 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: a legitimate, good one, so I'm not going to read 636 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: the competition. So anyway, mate, thanks for your email, but 637 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: that's bullshit. There's a famous classic car garage in Sydney. 638 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: I got this sent a lot and we've talked about 639 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: them before because they had a BYD at oh three, 640 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't remember that yet, and they had that for 641 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: sale for like seventy thousand dollars. 642 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: Seventy million dollars something. 643 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: Like that, which I thought was the oddest thing ever, 644 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: considering you can buy one brand new for forty five. 645 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 2: Right. 646 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: This one is someone sent me a BYD I forget. 647 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: I think it's like the E six or something like that. 648 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, I remember that sort of old school 649 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: BYD and they've got it. They've got one for sale 650 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: and it's never been I saw that that was it 651 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: never been new in Melbourne? Yeah? I was it in Melbourne. Yeah, 652 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: this this particular one was it had like no kilometers 653 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: on it, zero kilometers? Why would I buy that? 654 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 655 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: You are looking into it, aren't you. Yeah, that's that's 656 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: my Chemikazi car right there. I answered the question sponsored 657 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: vehicle to the day I die. There is nothing wrong 658 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: with the car with guitar strings in the doors yep. 659 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: And you know I mean that would to my contractual agreement. Sorry, 660 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm just getting word from China emperors. E. Yeah, you 661 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: want me to take the shot, I'll take the shot. Okay. 662 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: So if let's wrap this sucker up. 663 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to get in touch with us, 664 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 3: contact at the Drivers Show dot com today. 665 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: You as the email address, give us a yell. We'll 666 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: read out anything you said. 667 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: Also, get in touch with us on social media at 668 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: the Drivers Show dot com today you and if you can, please, 669 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 3: as soon as you've done listening to those or even 670 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 3: while you're listening to this, leave us a five star 671 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 3: rating on whichever platform you're listening on as well. 672 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: That would help us immensely. 673 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: Yes, there is a video on our socials of the 674 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: Subaru XT sport. There is one of the Corolla. The 675 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: gr Corolla have a bit of a sticky beg. Let 676 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: us know what cars you want to review next. Oh, 677 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: you know how last week you got the Cayman GT four. Yes, 678 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: next week got a oh look at you excellent doing 679 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: some deals. Yes, probably trying to stay off the news 680 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: again it was going to be a hurricane, but just 681 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: to bump that one, yeah into no one's on hold 682 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: in the factory, Just having a a bit of a detail. 683 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, everyone,