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Speaker 1: It's a special Will and Woody podcast mini.

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Speaker 2: Look, this Will and wood is a fun, loving show, guys.

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Speaker 2: It is a lot of fun. There's lots of loves

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Speaker 2: to come. I think I'm not saying this doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 2: need to be not funny, but it's a pretty serious

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Speaker 2: issue right now. Compulsory vaccination thirty one oh six five.

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Speaker 2: Give us a call if you want to get involved

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Speaker 2: in the conversation.

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Speaker 3: Three CNN workers.

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Speaker 2: Were fired over in the US for entering the office

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Speaker 2: without being vaccinated. We know that the company SPC, which

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Speaker 2: is responsible forwards fruit, fruit and veg.

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Speaker 3: Very good, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Well remember those fruit salad yummy, yummy ads with a

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Speaker 2: little two fruits.

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Speaker 3: I'm too sure there was SPC might not have been, But.

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Speaker 2: Anyway that might have been, I might have gone for

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Speaker 2: the competitor there. But SPC workers are furious a lot.

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Speaker 2: The union's getting involved there saying you can't do this.

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Speaker 2: And look, I don't think there's necessarily a right and

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Speaker 2: a wrong answer here, but I really want to hear

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Speaker 2: from you, guys. Third one or six or five. Should

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Speaker 2: compulsory vaccination be a thing? There's obviously a difference to

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Speaker 2: being pro vax or anti vacs. Yes, there is forcing

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Speaker 2: people to get an injection woods.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree.

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Speaker 4: It's a completely different question, you know, yeah, because I

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Speaker 4: mean taking away someone's choice, yeah, I think is too much.

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Speaker 1: But is a company.

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Speaker 4: So if a company says that, you know, we're making

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Speaker 4: it mandatory.

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Speaker 3: A private a private company.

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Speaker 4: A private company. Should a private company have that choice

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Speaker 4: as well? Because the end of the day, it's the

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Speaker 4: same question, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Is there something to be said, because I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: just I'm just going to play the devil's advocate here.

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Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily kicking the hornet's nest unnecessarily. But at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, like let's just have a

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Speaker 2: look at the equation here, right, Yeah, So Australia, Australia

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Speaker 2: is not going to open its borders. We're not going

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Speaker 2: to get anybody here until I think they've said, let's say,

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Speaker 2: let's just throw a number out there and say eighty

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Speaker 2: percent of people get vaccinated, right, that's the idea. If

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Speaker 2: we don't get there, We've just had Melbourne has had

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Speaker 2: another lockdown, snap lockdown in post Sidney's been in lockdown

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Speaker 2: for six weeks, probably looking like it's going to be

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Speaker 2: at least another six weeks.

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Speaker 1: Queensland are in lockdown right now, Let's.

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Speaker 2: Face it, every other city is probably on the fringe

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Speaker 2: of facing another very quick lockdown. These will continue to

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Speaker 2: happen until a certain number of people get vaccinated. So

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Speaker 2: really the question is without making it compulsory, in what

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Speaker 2: other way can we get society to a point where

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Speaker 2: we have got enough vaccinations to actually start allowing flights

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Speaker 4: Well, what do you think about Labour's plan? In ALBANIZI

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Speaker 4: the lemon squeeze himself come out and say didn't he

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Speaker 4: come out and say why don't we give three hundred

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Speaker 4: three hundred bucks for a jab?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Not bad?

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Speaker 2: So that So you know, I think I'd prefer that

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Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, I think definitely that would work better.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's ask Dion, who's called thirty one and sixty five? Dion,

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Speaker 2: what do you reckon vaccine? Do you reckon it should

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Speaker 5: No, it shouldn't be compulsory. I think it should be

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Speaker 5: everybody's choice. For example, my family, my wife's vaccinated, my

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Speaker 5: son's going to get vaccinated. That's your choice. I don't

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Speaker 5: want to be vaccinated, you know, for obvious and logic reasons.

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Speaker 5: You know, the government doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Let's not let's not throw around obvious and logic when

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Speaker 3: But it is your choice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, so done.

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Speaker 4: If you were working for a for a place and

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Speaker 5: I'll we're pretty upset about it because in all companies

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Speaker 5: go to work. You can be held liable if you've

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Speaker 5: pass it on to everybody else. It's always been in

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Speaker 5: the past with us. And that you purposely name that

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Speaker 5: are how liable for that?

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Speaker 5: I mean same as that brooke in the Lauara that

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Speaker 5: He's how liable for it? And it's always worked at.

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Speaker 2: So down if you're held liable for it, then surely

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Speaker 2: like the right thing to do is to get vaccinated

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Speaker 2: so that you're not rocking up to work ill.

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Speaker 5: But who the same with the other diseases who are

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Speaker 5: putting at risk the people that's that work that's not vaccinated.

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Speaker 5: So if you worry about yourself that you're going to

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Speaker 5: get the illness, well then get vaccinated. It's your choice.

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Speaker 2: But you're not But you're not living on an island

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Speaker 2: by yourself. You're living in a society. You're working in

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Speaker 5: Enough, and that those people that's concerned that if they

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Speaker 5: get the virus, you know that they you know that's

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Speaker 5: the secret place for any illness, isn't it? You know? Yes,

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Speaker 5: I mean when it comes to winter, Yeah, when it

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Speaker 5: vaccine there that do you want to It's not going

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Speaker 5: puts up to caution and measure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you've confused because I you're back with you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I agree, I agree with saying that

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Speaker 4: you shouldn't have to make compulsory but I think he's yeah,

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Speaker 4: his reasoning of if you're worried about getting.

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Speaker 2: That, you gave us an argument for our side at

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Speaker 2: the end, where it's like, you know the flu vacs.

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Speaker 3: You know you can get the flu vacs and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, although it protect everybody else, it's a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And we're not going to get the It's a

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Speaker 4: People do get a lot of but very emotional about

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Speaker 3: People calling up about it. Thirty one or six, five

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Speaker 2: And compulsory vaccination right up next will and right now

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Speaker 2: we are talking compulsory vaccinations though should it be a thing.

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Speaker 3: France recently made it compulsory.

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Speaker 2: To have a COVID passport, so you have to have

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Speaker 2: to continue working in healthcare. Controversially, though, SPC, the Fruit

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Speaker 3: Huge issues. And the big tension that we're feeling here,

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Speaker 2: Can hear it through the Cause Woods, is we've got

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Speaker 2: this tension between living in a liberal democracy, between your

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Speaker 3: And I just I.

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Speaker 2: Feel like we're all very quick to point to the

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Speaker 1: Pre speech baby.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And that's one hundred percent a part of being

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Speaker 2: If you're going to be part of society, you have

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Speaker 2: And I wanted to bring this up because, and this

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Speaker 3: To happen so that we could live harmoniously.

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Speaker 2: If we're in a situation right now where we can

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Speaker 2: Now I'm not for pro I'm not pro compulsory vaccination,

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Speaker 3: Of the population in lockdown and it's not a way

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Speaker 4: It probably gets a bit blurred though as well, where

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Speaker 2: There's always going to be exceptions to the rule. Always

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Speaker 2: they need to be allowed for It's not Nazi Germany. No,

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Speaker 2: you know, let's go to Ali on thirty one or

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Speaker 3: Ali. What do you reckon compulsory vaccination?

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Speaker 5: Compulsory?

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Speaker 1: Bang, So why do you think that, Ali?

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Speaker 7: Because you know, we're dealing with a global pandemic right now,

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Speaker 7: so it's not just about us, it's about everyone else.

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Speaker 7: It effects not just family, friends, but like the whole country,

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Speaker 7: the whole world. Actually, because when borders open up.

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Speaker 2: The social that's the social contract I was talking about

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Speaker 7: That's right. So the government says at the beginning, right,

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Speaker 7: it's voluntary. You know, we expect everyone to do the

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Speaker 7: general public, they need and the government has to make

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Speaker 7: compulsor We've.

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Speaker 2: Got to keep moving mate. I'm sorry, sorry, there's so

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Speaker 2: many calls coming through. You've got to go to Callum. Callum,

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Speaker 2: what do you reckon about compulsory vacs?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, my idea, I don't think compulsory is a way

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Speaker 6: it's the only ones to supply suld hear the demand,

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Speaker 6: so you can just go out and get it. I'm

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Speaker 6: only on that condition because at the other day, you

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Speaker 6: are a free individual. You can make your own choices

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Speaker 6: and assess the risk. That's all it's about. You can't

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Speaker 3: I mean we're a free country, so yes, we are

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Speaker 2: No, no, And this is the tension that I'm talking about,

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Speaker 2: Like you should be able to make your own decisions

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Speaker 2: be a free country.

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Speaker 3: Like Callum, here's a question for you.

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Speaker 2: Is a free country a country that's in forced lockdown? Like,

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Speaker 2: that's not a free country for me.

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Speaker 6: I mean technically not, as it's slightly tyrannical, but it's

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Speaker 6: only temporary. But you can argue if you're were to

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Speaker 2: You can see the tension here, like you know, how

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Speaker 1: Which I mean, would you before the carrot approach? Calum So?

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Speaker 4: I mean Alban Easy the opposition leader Lemon Squeeze is

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Speaker 1: He said three hundred bucks per jab. He wants to

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Speaker 6: No, definitely not. I't to waste the money because the

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Speaker 3: Or lockdowns forever for you?

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Good not I'm joking.

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Speaker 3: It's good to have a conversation about this.

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Speaker 1: Is it would waste a lot of money, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the best way to do it personally

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Speaker 1: What's that?

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Speaker 2: Just everyone who gets a vaccine immediately goes in a

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Speaker 2: lottery every week to win a million dollars. The vaccination

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Speaker 2: goes through the roof. They've done it before for all

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Speaker 2: sorts of illnesses. It works. Let's go to sam Hay

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Speaker 2: doctor kiss from Kyle and Jackie O.

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Speaker 3: Dr sam Hay, you get mate.

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Speaker 6: How are very good guys.

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Speaker 8: I'm glad you're spreading the words.

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon about a compulsory vax.

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Speaker 8: the bottom line is we need to get people vaccinated.

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Speaker 8: There's one thing that was mentioned before that the reason

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Speaker 8: And that's because not everyone who gets the vaccine will

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the other thing to mention here as well

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Speaker 3: Death rates go through the roof.

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Speaker 2: That's the other thing that we're forgetting here as well,

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Speaker 2: Like we're not just doing this so that we can,

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Speaker 2: you know, all go out in freedom. It's also to

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Speaker 2: stop people dying. So that's the end game. That's the

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Speaker 2: end game. It kills people. Someone brought up the flu

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Speaker 2: shot before. Yeah, sure, like the flu kills people.

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Speaker 3: This thing.

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Speaker 2: What we had five deaths in two hundred or five

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Speaker 2: and two hundred or whatever. It was one in two

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Speaker 2: recent New South Wales out break. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 2: thanks for calling. Appreciate it. Doctor Sam had have a

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Speaker 2: wonderful Friday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: Gee whiz, that has lit up the phones. Now now

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Speaker 2: I know why talkback radio gets such high ratings.

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Speaker 1: We could do that.

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Speaker 3: How can we just do this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bloody, what's.

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Speaker 3: The next topic?

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Speaker 1: What's something controversial? Yeah? Is that that? That's talkback? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Public transport? Should it be free?

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Speaker 4: I think I missed the mark, I missed the monk.

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Speaker 1: More of the boys on the four Chaff cast.

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Speaker 5: You know, you want to