1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nason. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: Imagine, imagine you're on a plane and someone passes away 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 2: on that plane, which is terrible, terrible. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: It happened. 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: The news last night had this story. 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 3: It was supposed to be the trip of a lifetime, 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 3: but it very quickly became a holiday from hell. Mitchell 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 3: Ring and his wife Jennifer Colin were on a Cutter 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 3: Airlines flight from Melbourne to Doha when a passenger died. 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: Cabin crew put the woman's body in the seat next 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 3: to the couple for the remainder of the flight. 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: They just said to me, can you move over? 13 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: And I just just said yes, no problem, and then 14 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: they placed the lady in the share that I was in. 15 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: I was really shocked and I said, are they going 16 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: to put her there? 17 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 3: A couple say things got worse when the plane landed. 18 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it got worse because the plane landed. What's the 19 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: last thing you want to do when the plane lands 20 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: is sit around wait for ages. They had to wait 21 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 2: while the cops and the ambulance people came on the. 22 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: Plane because I think what from between the lines. What 23 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: happened is they had four seats between two of them. 24 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: When this person passed away, they said, can you move 25 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: up and put her in the aisle seat? So they 26 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: were trapped with her in the aisle seat. I don't 27 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: understand the four hours of their flight. They imagine, I 28 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: had to go to the loom and. 29 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: The poor lady that passed away and her family condolence 30 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: is there. But also just like WHOA, come on, guys, 31 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: the people are on the plane, Well, there are other 32 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: vacant seats, that's what they're saying. 33 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: If there were other vacant seats, they were going to 34 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: put this woman's body into business class. But they couldn't 35 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: because I think she was a bigger person. Why not 36 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: put those two people in. 37 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: Business class and put you know. 38 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: There must be a protocol for this if you're if 39 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: you were in an airline business, if you're a flight attendant, 40 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: you must have to deal with this all the time. 41 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: Give us a call and tell us what the protocol is, 42 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: because this obviously is traumatic, traumatizing for everybody. That's not 43 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: how you deal with it. 44 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: Thirteen ninety seven thirty six is that a number we'd 45 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: love to hear from you, an insider, And that's a 46 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: good thing. We have Steve flight attendant with us right now. 47 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: Who heard us talking about this. 48 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 4: Early, how I see, Yes, good morning guys. 49 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: Very well. Is it uncommon or common for someone to 50 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: die on a flight. 51 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 4: Well, as passenger loads increase, it's more common. In my career, 52 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 4: I've had three deaths on board the aircraft. 53 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 5: So we have procedures. They may very. 54 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: Slightly actually from different airlines, but certainly the airline I 55 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 4: work for. We have our procedures what to do. 56 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: And what was that? 57 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 4: Well, if it's a full aircraft, and you know, I 58 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 4: had you seen the story on the current affair, but 59 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 4: if it's a full aircraft, it's not as fair set. 60 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 4: We leave the person who passed away, We leave them 61 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 4: in their seat with blankets not over their head, our procedures. 62 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: It just looks like they're asleep, you know. And it 63 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 4: caused seat belts on and everything. If we do have 64 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: spare seats, well they can be moved, you know, but 65 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 4: always there must be like in the sitting up position, 66 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 4: not laying down. If there's spare seats across the say 67 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 4: a row of three or four seats, is. 68 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: That a medical thing that they remain sitting. 69 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 4: Up to a point yet that they remain upright? But 70 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: you know, I had one where a gentleman collapsed in 71 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: the laboratory and we had to pull him out the laboratory. 72 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: We had to work on him, you know, CPR on 73 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 4: the floor of the aircraft. Unfortunately that was coming into 74 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: landing in the Sydney, so we had to leave him 75 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 4: on the floor. And we have our procedures if that happens. 76 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 4: You know, all doors of the aircraft must be manned 77 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 4: and as we're landing, as always in case there is 78 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 4: an emergency and doors have to be opened and slides 79 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 4: deployed or rafts deployed. 80 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: We had to leave him where he was. 81 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 82 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a large gentleman and we lost in him. 83 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: It was very unfortunate, but I imagine it were very 84 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,839 Speaker 4: from different airlines, different procedures. 85 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: So do these guys do you think that these guys 86 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: followed the protocol correctly or not? Or was the people 87 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: on the plane you know the old saying the squeaky 88 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: wheel gets the grease. If these people pushed back and 89 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: said look, I'm. 90 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: Not saying here, where are the space seat. 91 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: Because they said, oh, not fair enough, will sit there 92 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: if they pushed back. But if they move those people. 93 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 5: We can move people. We can move passengers to if 94 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 5: they're feeling uncomfortable, you know, we can move them and 95 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 5: someone who's willing to sit beside them, say ablebody passenger 96 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 5: who would be like somebody from the military or from 97 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 5: an airline, passengering from the airline or a different airline 98 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 5: that they're used to these procedures, or someone you know, 99 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 5: police or somebody who in their in their civilian line 100 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 5: and we get them to sit beside with other passengers. 101 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 5: Feeling uncomfortable with that, you know, or if there's doctors 102 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 5: or nurses on board, will make a PA saying could 103 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 5: you please assist us, we will put it to them. 104 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 5: But that is Yeah, the protocols they did that passage 105 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 5: of that crew on Qatar would be pretty normal. You 106 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 5: have to wait to the end, so everybody else gets 107 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 5: off the aircraft when it's when it's landed at the port, 108 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 5: and those you know, the deceased and the relatives would 109 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 5: stay on board. Paramedics ambulance would come and yeah, and 110 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 5: then reports have to be done about what happened the. 111 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: Actual what is just unusual that there were spare seats 112 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: and they weren't getting them. 113 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 5: Well, that's another airline, so I can't say really what 114 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 5: they what their procedures are. 115 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: With that. 116 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: They may have their reasons, but like I said in 117 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: the beginning, their procedures might vary slightly, but that'd be 118 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 4: pretty much common procedures. What what would have to do? 119 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: Well, Steve, thank you, thank you very good. 120 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: You're most welcome. 121 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: It's good to get a bit of insight. It would 122 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: because it'd be very confronting having someone passed away on 123 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: your flight. But inevitably people are going to die. 124 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: That's what happens. 125 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: You buck for it up great. 126 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, if there's a seat in business you take it. 127 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: I'm happy to do it. That's the sort of guy. 128 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get someone from the military to sit with 129 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: the deceased person, and you might meanwhile banging on the 130 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: door of business class 131 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: Thank you for your service.