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Speaker 1: Amanda.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Jonesy and Amanda Podcast.

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Speaker 3: The Jonesy and Amanda Show.

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Speaker 2: Georgeous Amanda, Mistress Amanda is delivering discipline.

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Speaker 3: It hurts, but someone's got to do it.

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Speaker 2: Amanda Jones and the Virile Jonesy.

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Speaker 1: Heard them describe him as a drunken idiot, stay in

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Speaker 1: school and learned school.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Jones and Amanda, those are names that you

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Speaker 4: would never forget.

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Speaker 1: Shot Boom Thursday or Friday Junior.

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Speaker 3: Here we are. I'm going to start by admitting to

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Speaker 3: something pretty embarrassing. We've got an electrician at our house

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Speaker 3: today because the outside lights aren't working. The party lights

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Speaker 3: out the bank even when I'm home, is what they're called. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: well they weren't working, and I've tried them for the

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Speaker 3: last couple of weeks. No, they came on and booked

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Speaker 3: their off. I checked fuses, at least I check users,

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Speaker 3: did all of that. Anyway, I've just got a message

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Speaker 3: from the electrician they weren't plugged in properly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, three hundred dollars later.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, at least now I know I'm an idiot.

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Speaker 1: There with a garage moroller door. I brought a key

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Speaker 1: off eBay a lock for the roller door.

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Speaker 5: You know the what am I saying this to you for? Anyway?

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Speaker 1: The roller door has a lock and there's two anyway.

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Speaker 1: Got that from eBay. Doesn't work. Can't take the key

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Speaker 1: out of the door, so you can't put the door

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Speaker 1: up properly. So I rang the guy that told me

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Speaker 1: the thing, and I said, I'm going to leave you

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Speaker 1: bad feedback.

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Speaker 5: This is a croc.

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Speaker 1: This thing sold me Jones. He's patiently explaining to me,

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Speaker 1: what you got to do is you put you that?

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Speaker 5: So I did that.

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Speaker 1: I did it about three times. It wouldn't work. So

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden he went quiet. Didn't he hear

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Speaker 1: from him?

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Speaker 5: So I got a locksmith in locksmith two minutes, yeah, mate.

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Speaker 1: And I went, what what did you done? I put

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Speaker 1: it on upside down? Oh oh, and then he's got

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Speaker 1: his little tap and go machine. I did the like, yes,

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Speaker 1: you won't need anything then, and he said, no, no.

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Speaker 3: Why you have to pay? Have you have you apologized

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Speaker 3: to the person who brought it for because you made

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Speaker 3: them sound like they were dodgy?

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Speaker 5: I did.

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Speaker 1: I didn't leave them bad feedback. I did suggest though,

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Speaker 1: that maybe they should be better diagrams on their instruction. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's some better instructions.

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Speaker 3: You couldn't let it go without you saying I'm right.

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Speaker 1: Remember and on this day a man asked for instructions,

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Speaker 1: and would you read that? Because it was bereft of instructions,

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Speaker 1: there were none. Not like our show. It just flows along.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't it just a does? Indeed, speaking of which, we

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Speaker 3: have five questions. If you answered question five correctly, you

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Speaker 3: get some cash. Do you want to play?

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Speaker 1: I do like you fast?

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Speaker 3: Five?

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Speaker 1: Call us thirteen fifty five twenty two is our number

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Speaker 1: that's coming up on them Nation. God, you're listening to

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Speaker 1: Jonesy Demanda, I've crossed Australia. Good afternoon, faster Jonesy and

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Speaker 1: demanders five questions. Can you go all the way and

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Speaker 1: answer all five questions correctly? If you do that, Amanda

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Speaker 1: will sell.

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Speaker 3: I'm just still setting up the rules. You don't have

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Speaker 3: to answer all five. You win two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: dollars cash by answering question five correctly, And you've got

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Speaker 3: to be in it to win it, as they say.

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Speaker 1: Max is in Edgecliff. Hello Max, Hi, how are you

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Speaker 1: going very well?

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Speaker 3: Hello? Max? We're going to kick off with you. What animal?

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Speaker 3: What animal is featured on the Australian five cent coin?

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Speaker 6: An the kidnap?

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Speaker 1: That's another case.

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Speaker 3: It's a five cent still like legal tender.

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Speaker 5: Jeremi right seems to be waving his hands around.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I've got an interesting fact about the five cent coin.

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Speaker 7: So did you know if someone wants to pay a

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Speaker 7: merchant with five cent coins, they can only perhap to

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Speaker 7: five dollars worth of five cent coins, and any more

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Speaker 7: than that is not considered legal tender.

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Speaker 1: So they are legal tender, but there's a limit.

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Speaker 3: Because that's so it's not so irritating to receive a

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars in five cent coin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that wouldn't count.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you might remember that next time your table dancing

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Speaker 5: a man.

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Speaker 3: That's right, my gus, it's full. I'm afraid, but you

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Speaker 3: to write.

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Speaker 1: A check question two for you Max. In two thousand

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Speaker 1: and twenty two, that.

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Speaker 5: Sunds strange, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, Kate Bush had a song and

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Speaker 1: had a major resurgence thanks to stranger Things. What was

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Speaker 1: that song called?

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Speaker 6: Is it going down that road?

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Speaker 3: You're on the right path, but you've taken a side turn.

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Speaker 5: You've got a different path.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kate is in greensbrot.

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Speaker 3: H o Kate Hi. So this song came out well,

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Speaker 3: it was re released in twenty twenty two thanks to

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Speaker 3: Stranger Things. What Kate Bush song was it?

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Speaker 1: No idea?

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Speaker 3: Oh Kate, it's a big, big song, big big songs.

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Speaker 3: It actually Kate Bush I think made more money from

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Speaker 3: it second time round. Right, Well, let's say I give

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Speaker 3: him money for jam.

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Speaker 1: We'll put the flavor back on. We'll just google the.

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Speaker 3: Time, I'll dance if you want to throw some five

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Speaker 3: cent pieces my way.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, let's just still tap and go with me.

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Speaker 1: It's Jonesy Demander's jam Nations, jam Nation Gold. It's Jonesy

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Speaker 1: Demander across Australia with jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Which fast of La Jonesy and demanders.

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Speaker 3: Fie was just asking about whether the five cent piece

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Speaker 3: was still legal tender. So we don't have twos or

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Speaker 3: one cent pieces anymore, do we, no America? And that's

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Speaker 3: because it costs more money to produce them, yes, than

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Speaker 3: a value. What did America to stop production of was

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Speaker 3: that the dime?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: No, no, I think it's the penny.

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Speaker 3: How much is a penny worth a penny equivalent of

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Speaker 3: a consent, and a dime is ten cents, so it's

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Speaker 3: twenty five cents now dimes.

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Speaker 1: Five cents, nicols ten cents, quarters twenty five cents.

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Speaker 3: Which we wrap it up there.

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Speaker 5: We're going to talk about currency.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm interested in the dong.

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Speaker 1: While the currency always Vietnam, it always comes back to

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Speaker 1: dog Kelly's in Sunshine. Hello, Kelly, Hello, how are you?

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Speaker 1: We are great?

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Speaker 4: Kelly.

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Speaker 3: We've had two people who haven't been able to answer

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Speaker 3: this question. In twenty twenty two, which Cape Bush song

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Speaker 3: had a resurgence, a major resurgence thanks to Stranger Things.

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Speaker 8: Would it be running up that hill?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it would not walking down that farm as we

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Speaker 3: heard earlier.

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Speaker 9: And I just learned what this song is about, and

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Speaker 9: it's about swapping sexes with your partner or putting your

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Speaker 9: That's what it's about, the deal with God?

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Speaker 1: Did you not know?

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Speaker 3: I thought it was about swapping lives with somebody with

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Speaker 1: So this is what I'm going through, is what you're

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Speaker 1: going through. It's like Freaky Friday.

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Speaker 3: I didn't swap sexes, they swap generations.

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Speaker 5: Is this is what it's going to be like today?

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Speaker 3: Well, if you're going to throw out information and then

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Speaker 3: being correct, Kelly, I just want to go home.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 8: Well, I was going to say, I think there would

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Speaker 8: be plenty of women who would like to swap places

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Speaker 8: with their partners, and you know, first week of school.

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Speaker 3: That's what Kelly. Hang around because I am going to

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Speaker 3: be talking a little bit later about the mental load

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Speaker 3: that women take on that men don't. So you know,

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Speaker 3: Jones's face is already.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm loving this, loving haven't the streets just been

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Speaker 1: so quiet? No little kids on e bikes or anything.

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Speaker 1: Everything's clear except the traffic's coming back.

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Speaker 3: Now his question three, let's play the not so secret sound?

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Speaker 3: All right, Kelly, what's this sound?

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Speaker 5: Whoa?

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Speaker 8: Sounds like a little bit of tennis action?

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Speaker 3: It is that actual audio though, was taken from we Tennis.

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Speaker 3: You know, I thought it was interesting. During the lockdown

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Speaker 3: and everyone had to exercise at home, no one played

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Speaker 3: we Fit? Who hands up? Who's got we fit? And

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Speaker 3: hands up? Who's never used it? In the last note,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to know you got it.

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Speaker 1: My roof space.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course you do.

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Speaker 5: Have my kids set up my avatar to be a

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Speaker 5: pornchy bald guy.

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Speaker 3: Well, time is interesting, isn't it, Brendan, have a look again.

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Speaker 3: You might think that looks attractive.

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Speaker 1: Which country has the only flag without red, white or blue?

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Speaker 5: Kelly?

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Speaker 1: Is it a Do you want a multiple choice on

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Speaker 1: this or do you think you can do it?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Okay, go with a multiple choice. But I have an idea.

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, A Jamaica, B, Germany or C Egypt.

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Speaker 3: Which one doesn't have red, white or blue?

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Speaker 1: Jamaica, Jamaica. Mine. What's your favorite flag, Kelly? Outside the

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Speaker 1: Australian flag, that's a given.

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Speaker 8: Oh, there's too many to can't to pick? I think, yeah,

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Speaker 8: Canada springs to mind because my I remember doing a

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Speaker 8: flag project when I was very little and had to

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Speaker 8: recreate a flag of when our parent was born. And

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Speaker 8: it mine happened to be plain green, which was a

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Speaker 8: early iteration of a flag that where my mum was born.

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Speaker 8: I got it now, got very easy.

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Speaker 1: In Libya, Oh there you Libya is o Libyan flag.

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Speaker 4: It's all green what we used to be?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 4: What about when I was younger?

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Speaker 1: Well, there's Olivian flag up there. Good work, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's a bit less age. It looks like Palestine's

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Speaker 1: flag did I say.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think so. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not very good with flags. If I ever

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Speaker 3: I had to go on one of those TV shows

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Speaker 3: and I'd be great at pop culture. I'd be great

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Speaker 3: at trivia. Ask me a flag question.

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Speaker 1: No, I seeing the mog edition flag?

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Speaker 3: What's that?

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Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 5: Mozambique. It's got AK forty seven on it.

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Speaker 3: It looks great hanging up in front of a school

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Speaker 3: visit this like to states?

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Speaker 1: How many oscars Kelly has? Leonardo DiCaprio one, this is

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Speaker 1: going to get the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: One is he won for the Revenant and he's also

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Speaker 3: nominated for this year for one battle after another?

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Speaker 1: Was that with him and the Bear?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: The Revenant was? Yes, yeah, one thing after another. You're

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Speaker 3: back again to the Bear.

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Speaker 1: You're coming from the hunting do yar, Leonardo Kelly. Congratulations,

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Speaker 1: you've won the jam pack two hundred and fifty dollars

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Speaker 1: Gold it's Jonesy Demander's Jam Nation across Australia.

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Speaker 5: I like Thursday because it's Friday Junior.

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Speaker 1: And the podcast you do with your clinical forensic psychologist friends.

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Speaker 3: She's not clinical there says clinical psychology. She's a forensic psychologist.

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Speaker 3: Her, she does. She corrects you on everything you say.

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Speaker 1: The podcast that you do Double a Chattery is always

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Speaker 3: You'll find us there.

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Speaker 1: Please do this week's episode. The mental load is up

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Speaker 5: Do you like tales have come up?

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Speaker 3: And oh yes, of course?

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Speaker 1: What about that e byke thief? The god has come up?

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that next on Gold Jamation Gold, It's Jones.

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Speaker 5: You like tales have come up? And don't you what's happened?

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the show, have you seen Steve Jobs.

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Speaker 1: I know that he's passed away, But how he used

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Speaker 5: There's a thing that's come out. It's gone semi viral

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Speaker 1: Now by a miracle of recording, jones and.

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Speaker 3: Amanda, Amanda. Those are two great names.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a scatter. That's the chemistry between.

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Speaker 3: Them, but how much of that? Relind your own business

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Speaker 3: and shut your pile.

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Speaker 1: I wish you were with your Joel Oler Jonesy demand

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Speaker 3: I think I say gen Z. It says that gen

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Speaker 3: Z doesn't like watching sex scenes in movies and TV.

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Speaker 5: Is gen Y Rye?

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Speaker 7: Hello, I'm actually jen Z.

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Speaker 1: You say gen Z or gen c I think gen Z.

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Speaker 3: And how would you have answered that question if you

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Speaker 1: I probably don't know. Should we send Ryan out into

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it's interesting that this is a

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Speaker 3: new survey that's asked gen Z this time. I don't

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Speaker 3: think anyone likes watching that stuff. When in the movies

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Speaker 1: It is too much smoking, too much swearing, and too

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Speaker 3: Absolutely was You couldn't see a film without any of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was just me in the audience.

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Speaker 5: That was you in the cinema.

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Speaker 5: Jim Ry, I were not changing your name to gen Z, right,

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Speaker 5: it makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough also have Steve Jobs. His way of interviewing

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Speaker 3: Maybe talk about that mess.

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Speaker 1: On jam Nation Jam jam Nation Gold. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: Jonesy the man across Australia with the jam Nation. The

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Speaker 1: late Apple CEO Steve Jobs.

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Speaker 3: The skivvywear quirky man.

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Speaker 5: He was a quirky guy. Invented the apple.

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Speaker 1: The not the apple, the fruit, but the.

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Speaker 3: Computer you've been into? Is that how that goes?

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Speaker 1: You've got to get a different charger for every year.

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Speaker 1: But he had a novel way of interviewing subjects when

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Speaker 1: they came to work for him, because no doubt a

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Speaker 1: lot of people would.

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Speaker 5: Be star struck when they spoke to Steve Jobs.

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Speaker 1: So to break the trend of interviewees showing it with

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Speaker 1: a memorized list of answers giving basically scripted responses.

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Speaker 5: He'd say, Hey, Dario, that's you and.

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Speaker 1: Me, Dario, I've just made that Yes, Darry, unless you

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Speaker 1: and me and we'll go and have a beer and

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Speaker 1: we'll shoot the breeze.

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Speaker 3: Steve Jobs did because he was famously socially awkward.

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Speaker 1: Well, I find are you having a beer with.

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Speaker 3: Your boss when he's socially awkward already in Australia.

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Speaker 1: You'll have a beer with anyone, it doesn't matter, Sama,

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Speaker 1: Bin Lad and Joe Mate, Let's go have a beer.

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Speaker 5: What's with the turban?

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Speaker 3: Do I get the job? Do I get it?

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Speaker 1: What do I have to do? But think it's a

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Speaker 1: good way of doing because what would happen You go

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Speaker 1: for a walk to get the beer. So as you're

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Speaker 1: walking to get the beer, that loosens the subject up

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Speaker 1: a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Also takes away.

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Speaker 1: Them being starstruck about hanging out with Steve Jobs, because

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Speaker 1: it would be intimidating. He's there in the office with

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Speaker 1: the skiving.

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Speaker 3: What if you're not a drinker? What if you want

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Speaker 3: a beer drinker? What happens then? Because that you know

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Speaker 3: behind the eight ball already.

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Speaker 1: Then he'd ask them questions, you know, what did you

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Speaker 1: do last summer? What did you do last summer?

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Speaker 3: You're accusing me of murder? What a weird question? What

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Speaker 3: did you do last summer?

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Speaker 1: Because what do you wanted to move?

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Speaker 3: Went to the shop?

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Speaker 1: Steve Jobs would get all the A players together. What

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Speaker 1: he said was, if you get enough A players together,

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Speaker 1: when you go through the incredible job of finding these

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Speaker 1: A players, it's really like working with each other because

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Speaker 1: they've never had that chance to do before.

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Speaker 5: So you get an A team.

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Speaker 3: And they do a human pyramid in the office before.

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Speaker 1: No, that's eight is enough. Think of the A team,

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Speaker 1: mister t B. A. Braracus is in.

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Speaker 3: There he has to make sure someone's got the jewelry.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you've got the face, man, you got the I can't.

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Speaker 3: Remember the job interviews. Have you had many job interviews?

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Speaker 1: Many, many, but none of them are very weird. You

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Speaker 1: would have had some.

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Speaker 5: I've had a lot of job interviews where I've never.

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Speaker 1: Got the job. Yeah, except for radio. Radio has always

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Speaker 1: worked for me.

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Speaker 3: When I was a researcher at Simon Townsen's Wonder World,

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Speaker 3: which is that kids show that was on many years ago,

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Speaker 3: hugely popular show. It was the first magazine style show

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Speaker 3: of its kind and particularly for kids. Four o'clock in

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Speaker 3: the afternoon, everyone watched Simon Townsend's Wonderworld. It was my

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Speaker 3: first ever job and it was thrilling, and I was

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Speaker 3: a researcher. I had to find two stories a day

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Speaker 3: for the reporters to go out and cover brilliant.

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Speaker 1: Largely the paddle Pop factory.

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Speaker 3: Every day it was the Paddle Pop Factory. And then

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Speaker 3: they were auditioning for a reporter, and it was everyone's

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Speaker 3: dream to be a reporter this. There'd be stories on

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Speaker 3: the night news, nightly news of how far the queue

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Speaker 3: snaked around the book. People would line up all kinds

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Speaker 3: of famous people. Andrew Denton applied to be a reporter

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Speaker 3: on Simon Townsend's Wonder World. Yeah, people of all kinds

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Speaker 3: would applies to be a reporter on a kids show.

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Speaker 3: And so I turned up because I'd already worked there

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Speaker 3: for a year, and I thought, oh, this would be

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Speaker 3: my dream to get in front of the camera. What

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Speaker 3: a dream. And we had to wear pants. We weren't

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Speaker 3: allowed to wear a skirt or anything. I had to

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Speaker 3: wear pair of pants, and we had to jump and

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Speaker 3: squeal like a rank and Sister, remember the Rankan Sisters

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Speaker 3: who were aerobic heroes. And then we had to do

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Speaker 3: star jumps. So I had to tell a joke I think,

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Speaker 3: and I had to do some star jumps. And even

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Speaker 3: though I'd worked there for a year, I didn't get

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Speaker 3: the job because I'm not a squeally star jump kind

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Speaker 3: of person. I still Simon said years later that he

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Speaker 3: regretted not giving me the job, but at the time

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Speaker 3: I was horrified and mortified and really disappointed. And the

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Speaker 3: word came down I don't know whether it was from

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Speaker 3: Simon or an executive producer whatever, that I was a

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Speaker 3: bit too broad across the beam to host a kids

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Speaker 3: to be a reporter on a kids show, and that

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Speaker 3: stayed with me for so say you're fat. That stayed

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Speaker 3: with me for years.

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Speaker 1: Well, rage, yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: That was the job interview, and you know other people

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Speaker 3: got the job and went on to do this and

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Speaker 3: that and whatever.

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Speaker 1: Job.

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Speaker 3: I think it was Melinda Rutter, Blonde, gorgeous, and she's

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Speaker 3: a very funny, feisty, nice person. So I've got a

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Speaker 3: lot of time for her. So it wasn't that she

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Speaker 3: wasn't a great person. But I after that, I thought,

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Speaker 3: I don't think I can keep working on this.

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Speaker 1: So you showed him Manny's little dog too.

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Speaker 3: And that big slathering dog too.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think this is something the tribal drum.

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Speaker 1: Would be for.

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Speaker 3: Do you think I'm fat?

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Speaker 1: Is Amanda brought across the No, don't do that the

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Speaker 1: tribal drummer's beating for. Well, that was a weird job interview.

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Speaker 6: You've charmed me, you've.

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Speaker 1: Got the job.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's David Brent being a creep.

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Speaker 1: Whyted you give us call?

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Speaker 5: We'd love to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen fifty five, twenty two on Gold Jonesy and Amanda

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Speaker 1: listen to the.

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Speaker 2: Podcast whenever you want with the free iHeart app Gold.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. You're listening to Jonesy Demander across Australia for

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Speaker 1: Jam Nation. Steve Jobs. The Apple guy used to take

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Speaker 1: potential candidates out for a beer instead of an interview.

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Speaker 1: This would work for him.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of most s?

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Speaker 5: Givy and then.

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Speaker 1: It's a good way of doing it.

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Speaker 5: Doug Moray, famous Australian radio broadcast.

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Speaker 1: He told me a great story once about when they

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Speaker 1: were wooing him from the ABC. Was wearing a triple J.

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Speaker 3: They want trouble J I think it was.

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Speaker 1: Then they wanted him to be a part of commercial radio.

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Speaker 1: So the big boss there took him out for some

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Speaker 1: a boozy lunch and they're drinking beer. It ended up

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Speaker 1: with a broken pinball machine and they're both getting thrown

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Speaker 1: out of the pub.

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Speaker 3: Did he get the job?

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Speaker 5: And Doug was thinking, well, what's happened here?

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Speaker 1: Because the boss was a big fan of pinball machines

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Speaker 1: and it's quite innocent, your honor.

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Speaker 5: The ball got stuck at the top of the pinball machine, so.

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Speaker 1: The bosses said tilt Doug, give me a hand with this,

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Speaker 1: will tip the pinball machine over and Doug didn't have

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Speaker 1: good back support, and the thing's gone on.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a story about alcohol.

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Speaker 1: And smashed the crap and thrown out of the park.

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Speaker 3: Timber a woman once we spoke two years ago. She

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Speaker 3: said she'd gone for a job interview, and she'd borrowed

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Speaker 3: her friend's shoes, so when she got to the building,

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Speaker 3: there was a tree out the front, so she took

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Speaker 3: off her runners, put them in the tree, put on

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Speaker 3: her friend's shoes, and they were too big, so she

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Speaker 3: stuffed the toes with leaves. So she goes in as

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Speaker 3: the interview. As she's walking out, she realizes she's leaving

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Speaker 3: a trail of leaves through the foyer. Mortifying, she gets

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Speaker 3: down to the tree, takes off these shoes she was wearing,

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Speaker 3: puts on her runners, and looks up and sees the

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Speaker 3: woman who's just interfewed her looking out the window, looking

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Speaker 3: at her like she was insane.

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Speaker 5: Did you get the job?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think she did. Did you

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Speaker 3: got No, that wasn't me. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: The tribal drama's beating. Well, that was a weird job interview.

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Speaker 3: You've charmed me.

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Speaker 1: You've got the job. Caroline in Hornsby Heights. Hello Caroline,

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Speaker 1: good morning.

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Speaker 10: How are you going?

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Speaker 5: Good afternoon now?

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Speaker 10: Oh afternoon?

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Speaker 8: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, yeah, at different times.

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Speaker 3: We're adjusting as well. So that's about the job interview.

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Speaker 10: Yes, okay, So back in the eighties, I just finished

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Speaker 10: my enrolled nurse training looking for a job on the

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Speaker 10: loan or shore, went for a position. In the interview

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Speaker 10: a very nervous and first question and why do you

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Speaker 10: want the job? Second question it was, so have you

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Speaker 10: seen a dead body?

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Speaker 2: Oh? What?

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Speaker 10: And I went, well, I have actually my father passed

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Speaker 10: away not that long ago, and I have actually, yes,

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Speaker 10: I did see one. They said, oh great, So when

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Speaker 10: can you start? And I said, give me a minute

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Speaker 10: to think about this and old wine, and I thought, well,

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Speaker 10: I don't really want to work just reliant on people

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Speaker 10: dead people, people dying all the time. And they said,

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Speaker 10: well that's probably is part of it. And I said, oh,

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Speaker 10: I think I'll give it a miss thak through it.

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Speaker 10: What was the job, Caroline, Well, well, it was working, well,

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Speaker 10: it was working in a facility like a clinic for

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Speaker 10: older people. So I think they just thought that you know,

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Speaker 10: if you could, you know, if you've seen it dead

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Speaker 10: and I was all of nineteen, and they said I

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Speaker 10: think they aimed at as the fact, Well, most nine

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Speaker 10: year olds may not have seen a dead body, so

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Speaker 10: I think they thought that was a shortcut. If you've

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Speaker 10: seen one, then you don't have to be alarmed by

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Speaker 10: seeing one.

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Speaker 5: Caroline at a eardly home, you're going to see.

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Speaker 3: Some dead I know, but imagine that being question number two,

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Speaker 3: have you seen a dead body? I was asked that

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Speaker 3: when I came to it with you, Jonesy smelled a few.

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Speaker 1: Okay, more of your course coming up thirteen fifty five

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Speaker 1: twenty two Gold. You're listening to Jonesy Demount across Australia

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Speaker 1: for jam Nation. Steve Jobs, that's the Apple guy. He

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Speaker 1: used to take potential candidates out for a beer instead

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Speaker 1: of an interview. It's a good way of doing How

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Speaker 1: might do that in the future when we're interviewing people?

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Speaker 3: Can I keep you out of the pub?

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Speaker 1: That's the problem. I took you out for a few

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Speaker 1: beers when you came to work for me, and you're

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Speaker 1: still here.

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Speaker 3: You had the beers I didn't. Steve is notoriously was

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Speaker 3: notoriously quirky, so it'd be an awkward interview either way.

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Speaker 1: The tribal dramas beating. Well, that was a weird.

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Speaker 5: Job interview and charmed me you got the job in Armstrong.

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Speaker 3: Creek Andrew, good afternoon, How are you GOODA Have you

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Speaker 3: had a weird job interview?

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Speaker 6: I've had numerous weird job interviews actually, but this one's

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Speaker 6: actually about Steve Jobs. One of my friends in America.

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Speaker 6: His name is Andrey Grignan. He is one of the

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Speaker 6: people who worked on the very first iPhone under Steve Jobs.

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Speaker 6: And he had a number of stories to tell me.

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Speaker 6: A couple, let us say, for radio, and many that

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Speaker 6: probably are not. But one thing that Steve used to do,

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Speaker 6: which was really interesting, very early on when they were

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Speaker 6: building iPhone and other products, was he used to ask somebody,

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Speaker 6: really promptly and abruptly, are you an idiot? Are you

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Speaker 6: an idiot? So he'd asked them that, and based on

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Speaker 6: their response, he would either hire them or push them

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Speaker 6: through to the next round or not. And if they

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Speaker 6: were sort of really you know, offended, and they were like, no,

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Speaker 6: I've got this, you know, GPA average, and I've done

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Speaker 6: this course and I know these things and I achieved this,

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Speaker 6: and they got sort of angry, he'd be like, forget them.

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Speaker 6: But if they took a few seconds and you know,

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Speaker 6: constructively thought about the question and what was he trying

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Speaker 6: to get to and you know, what's the purpose, he'd

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Speaker 6: just look at them and go, yep, you're okay, and

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Speaker 6: he'd move forward. So he the question was really all about,

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Speaker 6: you know, are you someone who can actually have a

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Speaker 6: bit of a thought pattern?

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Speaker 3: Are you an idiot?

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Speaker 5: And what have you?

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Speaker 1: Just went yes, yes, you're high.

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Speaker 6: Well I probably would have said that. And the other

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Speaker 6: thing that this person did as well. He got on

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Speaker 6: Steve's bad side one day and Steve gave him the

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Speaker 6: nickname F Chop. I can't mention the first word on radio,

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Speaker 6: but he gave him the nickname F Chop And so

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Speaker 6: whenever he would be in and around the office, you know,

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Speaker 6: that's what he would call him. And it was kind of,

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Speaker 6: you know, obviously something that originally started offensive but then

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Speaker 6: all of a sudden went to something that was, you know,

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Speaker 6: quite alluring. And yeah, he's ever since then, you know,

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Speaker 6: carried that with him. Obviously after Steve's casting as well, Steve's.

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Speaker 3: Going to call you that, that's it's the guy from

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Speaker 3: HR calls come.

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Speaker 1: On, Andrew, that is fascinating.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Leslie has joined us.

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Speaker 3: Illo Leslie, if you had a weird interview? Have you

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Speaker 3: been called f chop?

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Speaker 4: No? No, I don't know what I was called, but

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Speaker 4: it didn't end very well. Yeah, but look, I just

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Speaker 4: want to say, first of all, I'm listening to you

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Speaker 4: guys at this time for the first time in my

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Speaker 4: whole life, because I've always had to listen on Catch

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Speaker 4: Up in Ballarat at four o'clock in the morning and

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Speaker 4: never been able.

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Speaker 3: To bring in and drilled Leslie.

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Speaker 4: This it's a big deal. And at Bunnings and I've

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Speaker 4: stopped everything Bunnings in Bellarat. Yes, well, my interview was

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Speaker 4: at a convent and I came from a very fairly

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Speaker 4: atheist family, but there was this job going in the

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Speaker 4: office at this convent, so mum took me to this

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Speaker 4: interview and the nun that interviewed me, I think, hated

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Speaker 4: me on the spot, even though I was only seventeen.

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Speaker 4: She told me that my sleeves were pushed up and

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Speaker 4: that I was slovenly and my mum told her to

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Speaker 4: get stuffed, and we went home and had a nice

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Speaker 4: cup of tea and I think I dodged a bullet.

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Speaker 3: So your mother told me nun to get stuffed.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and my mum had gone to a convent as

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Speaker 4: a child. She thought she was a complete old bag

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Speaker 4: and yes, and we just walked out.

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Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I went to school with

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Speaker 1: nuns and they could be complete a whole. So are

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Speaker 1: pretty mean? Yeah, it's not all just mother to reason.

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Speaker 1: She was nice, but some of them were pretty.

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Speaker 3: It's at all the sound of music.

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Speaker 1: Lelie, Leslie, thank you, thank you, and thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us from Ballarat Punnings. Coming up, we've got the

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Speaker 1: pub test Sex scenes in movies. Jen Wires don't like.

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Speaker 3: It, jen Zas don't like it? The latest recent anyone

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Speaker 3: like sex scenes? Any one like it?

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Speaker 1: We'll put it to the pub test. Next on Gold

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Speaker 1: Gold It's gem Nation across Australia. The Jonesy Demanda, Let's

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Speaker 1: get on down to the Jonesy Amanda Arms four.

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Speaker 2: The pub test top test does not past the pub Test,

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Speaker 2: hub Test Test pub Test, the pub test doesn't pass.

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Speaker 5: The swift test.

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Speaker 1: Stop it.

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Speaker 2: It's not apful.

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Speaker 1: Sex scenes in movies do they pass the pub test?

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Speaker 1: Seems that the kids the gen zs don't like sex

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Speaker 1: scenes in you flash.

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Speaker 3: For Hollywood executives, and it's interesting that they don't even

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Speaker 3: want particularly romance in movies either. This report shows that

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Speaker 3: fifty one point five percent a narrow margin of adolescence,

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Speaker 3: would like to see more content depicting friendships and platonic relationships.

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Speaker 3: They feel that romance in media is overused, and they've

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Speaker 3: said that someone here is saying, I don't like that

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Speaker 3: every time a male and a female character together on screen,

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Speaker 3: studios feel the need to make them fall in love.

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Speaker 3: There's a complete like of platonic relationships in American cinema.

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Speaker 3: But when we were growing up and younger, every single

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Speaker 3: film has full on nudity and sex. My favorite sex

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Speaker 3: scenes have been scenes with let's list them, mister Ed

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Speaker 3: where you actually don't see that much. Kevin Costner and

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Speaker 3: an actress called Sean Young in having it off in

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Speaker 3: the back of a limo, fully clothed in no way out.

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Speaker 3: And there's also a great sex scene in The Big

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Speaker 3: Easy Dennis Quayd and Ellen Barkin full of Ellen the

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Speaker 3: sexiest thing of the scene.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember in the movie in Trapman, I had

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Speaker 1: seen it before. There's a there's is that again, it's

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Speaker 1: Sean Connery Catherine z and.

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Speaker 3: There's between them. I'm sure he's one hundred years older

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Speaker 3: than her, but still younger than her husband.

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Speaker 5: In trap I'm just googling it now.

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Speaker 1: In Trapman nude scenes, naked scene she does she get

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Speaker 1: a gear of in Trapman porn videos. Okay, Ryan, like,

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Speaker 1: it's locked in up to you. Anyway, I was watching

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Speaker 1: I was watching it, but I'd seen the movie before,

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Speaker 1: so I knew what was going to happen. And I

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Speaker 1: was up at my in law's place and We're sitting

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Speaker 1: around watching this Entrapman movie.

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Speaker 5: Everyone's enjoying it.

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Speaker 1: Then Ryan and my wife ron Is her father decided

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Speaker 1: they go, wait, we got to bed, so they go.

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Speaker 1: So it's just me and May, my mother in law.

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Speaker 1: We knew that the film, but I knew it was

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Speaker 1: coming and went, oh, that's right, this is a great movie.

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Speaker 5: And then May was constantly saying he's a bit old

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Speaker 5: for her?

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Speaker 1: Is he for Catherine? Wait? Does he? What's coming? And

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, well, Michael Douglas, he's an old coup two.

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Speaker 5: Anyway. Then they're having so then I'm saying, maybe.

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Speaker 1: Would you like a cup of tea, but you kept

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Speaker 1: asking me questions.

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Speaker 5: Like what just yea question?

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Speaker 3: Yes, awkward question?

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Speaker 1: Any questions from my mother in law? From me, I'm

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Speaker 1: watching Sean Connery and Gavin Say Jones go to town.

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Speaker 3: Sex scenes in movies. What do you think do they

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Speaker 3: pass the pub test?

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Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from you. Thirteen fifty five twenty

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Speaker 1: two will have that for you coming up in the

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Speaker 1: next hour. Also may hints return Munse's science wrap. That's

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Speaker 1: what Amanda puts the lab coat on. Yeah, that's right, sexy.

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Speaker 3: And we also have two thousand dollars to give away

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Speaker 3: with Instagram on gold.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Jonesy and Demanda podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in a request for them to do it again.

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Speaker 3: Jenz and crack me up, lay off the moonshine.

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Speaker 8: Always knocking a man, it's so weak.

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Speaker 1: Thursday or Friday Junior, as we like to say, when.

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Speaker 3: I say the word Neanderthal or Neanderthal, what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Primitive man?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, primitive man and you sort of. I think the

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Speaker 3: reputation of the Neanderthal is that they were sluggish and idiots.

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Speaker 3: Would you agree? Look, I look at the face you pulling.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at one right now, they don't insist anymore.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even know what they saund Well.

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Speaker 3: The thing is we're learning new things constantly about Neanderthals

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Speaker 3: and maybe we've misunderstood them. I'm going to talk to

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Speaker 3: you a bit later, Brendan. Pay attention. I'm over here

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Speaker 3: with some science information.

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Speaker 1: You just start flashing lights at me. Get the Neanderthal

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Speaker 1: out of the mood. That's coming up. Also, the pub

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Speaker 1: test Apparently gen zs don't like sex scenes. He who

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Speaker 1: dies and something is that's sexy on a Thursday? Tell

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Speaker 1: me two thousand dollars.

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Speaker 5: That's right?

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Speaker 3: Would you like to in two thousand dollars as well?

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Speaker 1: Instagram? That's all coming up on jam nations Old you're

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Speaker 1: listening to Jonesy Demander across Australia for jam Nation. You

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Speaker 1: can join us at anytime Facebook, Jonesy Demanda, on the

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Speaker 1: Inn Jonesy Demanda, or on x Jonesy Demanda, Jonesydemander dot com,

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Speaker 1: dot a you. It's all there and we have big

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Speaker 1: issues to talk about. We go down to the Jonesy

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Speaker 1: Demand of arms four.

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Speaker 7: The pub Test.

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Speaker 1: Top test does not past the pub Test hub Test

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Speaker 1: tests test.

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Speaker 5: The pub test doesn't pass the Stift test.

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Speaker 1: Stop it, it's not helpful. It seems that sex scenes

839
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Speaker 1: in movies people don't want them anymore.

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Speaker 3: The young people don't want them. They want to see

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Speaker 3: platonic relationships and friendships, or they're not even that keen

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00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 3: on seeing romance. Are the older generations even more? Are

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00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 3: they comfortable? Are we comfortable watching sex?

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Speaker 1: Every time I watch my wife is watching Outlander, there's

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Speaker 1: some raucous sex scenes going on, and I say, and

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Speaker 1: it's always.

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Speaker 5: Where my son and she suppressed pause, walk into the room.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: That show was very, very raunchy. Even I thought I

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Speaker 3: had my forehead curtains closed during a lot of it,

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Speaker 3: and I was there on my own. That's next talk, No, no,

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Speaker 3: What do you think sex scenes in movies? Do they

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Speaker 3: pass the pub test?

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Speaker 10: One hundred percent?

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Speaker 1: Jose Dean Manny, You are missing starting big time basic instinct.

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Speaker 9: Michael Douglas, Sharon Stone, the beckever, I certainly do.

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Speaker 6: The thing is if you don't like it, turn it off.

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Speaker 4: For the cinema.

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Speaker 6: Born what it exists.

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Speaker 10: It absolutely does not.

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Speaker 4: They should be excluded and.

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Speaker 10: It's completely unnecessary and detract from the story's true.

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Speaker 1: I guess in the old days, just Born wasn't as

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Speaker 1: available as it is now.

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Speaker 3: We're not talking about porn really, We're just talking about

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Speaker 3: sitting in with a group of friends watching television or

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Speaker 3: a movie and then sex appears.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it just appears.

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Speaker 5: What you do on the weekends is your own business.

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Speaker 3: I have to wait for ages for it to appear.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for all your call.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next, I'm a heaps wicked scientist in that

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Speaker 3: and I'm going to tell you the latest information about Neanderthals.

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Speaker 1: Moncey's science rapp is coming up on jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: You can see a whole lot more of Jonesy and

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Speaker 2: Amanda on our socials Lewis on Instagram and Facebook.

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Speaker 1: Go Clarence a Big Bad Gold. It's Jonesy Demanda's jam

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Speaker 1: Nation across Australia. That's pretty on the Life's Good Saxophone,

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Speaker 1: that's Sir Clarence Clemons.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think the younger people wanted to see that anymore.

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Speaker 5: People, young kids, they don't want sax anymore. What the hell?

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Speaker 1: For those that don't know, Amanda used to present on

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Speaker 1: a science show was called Beyond two Thousand, which she

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Speaker 1: and a bunch of other clean cut presenters in colored

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Speaker 1: knits would present gadgets that we.

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Speaker 5: Might see in the future. None of those actually came true.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen anyone riding around on a bike that

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Speaker 1: goes on the water.

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Speaker 3: Well, give it time.

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Speaker 5: There was always a strange There might.

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Speaker 3: Have been a small car in a suitcase here and there.

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Speaker 3: How often do you see that every day?

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Speaker 1: I didn't see Wi Fi, didn't see the internet, didn't

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Speaker 1: even see the mobile phone.

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Speaker 3: I did a lot of stories on superconductors without knowing

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Speaker 3: what they were, and you asked me, now, I still

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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 1: Having said that, though it was a great show and

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Speaker 1: you've kept your finger in the science.

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Speaker 3: Pie, people don't want to see it. Brendan. We've spoken about.

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Speaker 1: That, and that's why we've put it all together for

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Speaker 1: a science watch. I like to call it a science

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Speaker 1: rap and it's called Munsie's Science rapt Speed. The science.

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Speaker 5: Muncie is my affectionate name for you.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about Neanderthals. Remember the chart that you saw

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Speaker 3: when you were at school of the ascent of Man?

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Speaker 3: Is that what it was? There'd be a hunched over chimpanzee,

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Speaker 3: then gradually standing slightly more upright, until eventually you saw

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Speaker 3: the Homo sapien, and there was chromagnum man, chromagnum man,

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Speaker 3: and the Homo sapien. The Neanderthal was somewhere in the

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Speaker 3: middle of all that, and the Anderthal was a slight,

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Speaker 3: heavy browed, crouched over, hairy creature. Yep, what they are

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Speaker 3: saying now. I heard an interesting podcast is in The

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Speaker 3: New York Times did a podcast on this. Is that

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Speaker 3: when they found the skeleton of the Neanderthal and then

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Speaker 3: sort of put it together shonkily, they kind of didn't

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Speaker 3: put it together correctly, then just drew it with hair

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Speaker 3: on it. And that's the image we've had of the

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Speaker 3: Neanderthal or neanderthol as some people say. But apparently the

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Speaker 3: one skeleton they had they've discovered now was an old

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Speaker 3: one that had osteoarth writers. So to be like taking

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Speaker 3: someone who is suffering terribly from arthritis and all stoopid

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Speaker 3: and saying that's what all human beings look like. Ah,

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Speaker 3: So we have attributed a lot of imagery to Neanderthal

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Speaker 3: that isn't necessarily true.

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Speaker 1: You just don't have been drinking the A two milk and.

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Speaker 3: Take your tablets for God's sake, take your calcium.

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Speaker 1: Has he been at a chemist's warehouse?

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Speaker 3: But what they're saying now is that other studies have

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Speaker 3: also shown that Neanderthals were, as they say here, robust, clever,

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Speaker 3: They used.

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Speaker 1: Tools, well, they invented fired.

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Speaker 3: They may have been the first ones to harness fire.

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Speaker 3: There's evidence I don't know how they found this evidence

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Speaker 3: that maybe they kissed Amah written in the tree Kiung,

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Speaker 3: that they held funerals for each other, which shows that

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Speaker 3: they had empathy and family community relations with an emotional

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Speaker 3: kind of component to it. So not the caveman stereotype

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Speaker 3: that we've all fought. So they're going back now and

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Speaker 3: looking at that. And of course the way the chain

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Speaker 3: goes is that where most of us would have maybe

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Speaker 3: up to two percent maybe more than that of Neanderthal

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Speaker 3: genes DNA, So at some point we splint it off.

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Speaker 3: The Homo sapiens went towards Africa, I think, and the

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Speaker 3: Neanderthals maybe went through Asia. But having said that, over

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Speaker 3: the intervening years there was co mingling, which is why

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Speaker 3: we share some DNA. But let's talk about what they're

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Speaker 3: constantly finding out about the Neanderthals. So they're not dumb,

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Speaker 3: they move, they're not all that stuff that we've attributed

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Speaker 3: them to them. But they have been able to study

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Speaker 3: the voice characteristics of the Neanderthal, how the voice box

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Speaker 3: would work, how the bones in the throat would work,

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Speaker 3: how their vocalizations would sound. This is a historian and

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Speaker 3: to help them recreate the sound of the Neanderthal, we

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Speaker 3: have a voice actor called Eliot. Imagine getting this call

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Speaker 3: from your agent, right, and you've done a lot of

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Speaker 3: great voice over work. How do you feel about learning

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Speaker 3: to recreate the voice of.

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Speaker 5: Voice over agency? So what did they ring up?

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Speaker 1: Eight? Kid?

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Speaker 5: We've got a big gig.

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Speaker 3: For you, maybe, right? How would you feel afterwards? Anyway,

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Speaker 3: this is Eliot being taken through the steps of how

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Speaker 3: to speak like a Neanderthal.

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Speaker 1: And most of all, a huge nasal cavity.

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Speaker 11: Let's just add a.

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Speaker 3: Bit of nasal now.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 11: The other thing that would be happening, which would actually

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Speaker 11: increase that quality is a very heavy skull that seems

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Speaker 11: to pull down into the throat there. Now, add to

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Speaker 11: that the fact that they had a fantastic chest, which

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Speaker 11: is a support system of breath which can produce enormous

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Speaker 11: chess resonance and tremendous power. So I imagine that they

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Speaker 11: wouldn't have subtle sounds. It would be loud, old, very

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Speaker 11: loud or very very loud. And we can try and

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Speaker 11: get that by I'm now going to engage Elliott by

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Speaker 11: pushing to me. This is actually getting him right into

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Speaker 11: his body. Now speak, Hey, now let's make a sound.

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Speaker 3: Just let's make a huge r and again. Now it's

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00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 3: off to do a macasade.

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Speaker 1: Elliott's one step away from Home and away. Thank you.

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00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: That was very good.

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00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: Interesting, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: What the science wrap? Please Instagram is he Do you

986
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Speaker 1: want to play? There's a few ways you can do this.

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Speaker 1: Jonesy Demanda dot com, dot a you if you're in

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Speaker 1: another time zone, or you can call it thirteen fifty

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Speaker 1: five twenty two.

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Speaker 5: It's happening next on Gold Gem Nation.

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Speaker 1: All right gold It's Jones and a live across Australia

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Speaker 1: with jam Nation.

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Speaker 8: Everybody that's money, extra cash.

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Speaker 2: Jones and Amanda's.

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Speaker 1: Robert Elliott saw ten questions and sixty seconds on the clock.

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Speaker 3: That sound Neanderthal in practice.

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Speaker 1: You can pass if you don't know an answer, will

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Speaker 1: come back to that question at the time. But that

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Speaker 1: you get all the questions right, you win one thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: You do, you can turn it into two thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: by answering a bonus question, but it is double or nothing.

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Speaker 1: Craig is on the Sunshine Coast. Hell I, Craig, good,

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Speaker 1: here you go on?

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Speaker 3: Susn't it?

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Speaker 5: We are going?

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00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 10: Well?

1007
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Speaker 3: Will you mad? We're still giggling, Craig about what a

1008
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 3: Neanderthal might have sounded like. Did you hear it earlier?

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00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: Ah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I reckon, Now that's pretty much spot on.

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Speaker 1: Yep, really.

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Speaker 3: That you know? Actually you you are probably like most

1013
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: of us are two percent.

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Speaker 1: I always thought that a Neanderthal would sound a bit

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Speaker 1: more og once mut.

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Speaker 3: No, it sounds like this. That's fair enough to sounds

1017
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 3: like a two can Craig away from it, bronk as

1018
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 3: I will always know. They sound like, let's see what

1019
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: we can do here. We've got ten questions, We've got

1020
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Speaker 3: sixty seconds. If you're not sure, say past, because we

1021
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Speaker 3: might have time to come back. Okay, okay, no worries,

1022
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Speaker 3: all right, Craig, here we go. Question number one? What

1023
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 3: is a quarter of one hundred twenty five? Question two?

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Speaker 3: What fruit or vegetable is a pickle made from gurkin?

1025
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Speaker 1: Keep going?

1026
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Speaker 5: Have another crack.

1027
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 6: A col yep?

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00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 3: Question three? Who sings that? Don't impress me much?

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Speaker 6: Fine?

1030
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: Question four? Which planet is known as the blue planet Earth?

1031
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 3: Earth is the blue planet home of the Neanderthal.

1032
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Speaker 6: Ah, there we go on, come grug after all.

1033
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 3: You know, we probably shouldn't have let you play on,

1034
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Speaker 3: but we liked you create.

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Speaker 1: We like the gate.

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00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 3: Thank you, no worries, thank you, Thanks Craig.

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Speaker 5: It'll be back again tomorrow. Instagram.

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00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: It's a tricky tricky thing, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Jonesy and Demanda podcast.

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00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: Gold It's jam Nation around the country Thursday afternon Elliott.

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00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: I think what I've loved about the show today is

1042
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: you bringing Elliott to the table.

1043
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I wanted to do an update on Neanderthals.

1044
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: It's only been a few million years. What are they

1045
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: up to? And I heard this podcast on the New

1046
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 3: York Times and they were talking about how all the

1047
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: ludite kind of big head, big brow stooped over stuff

1048
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 3: and they're actually more family oriented, emotional smart, and we've

1049
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 3: given them credit for And then there was a footage

1050
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 3: I found of a voice actor, Elliott talking to a

1051
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: historian and her trying to help him replicate through their

1052
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: research into the vocal cords and vocalizations of Neanderthals, what

1053
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: they would have sounded like his video.

1054
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: It's just it's so great because he's a voice actor.

1055
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: He's a voice actor. His agents, Hey, kid.

1056
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 3: What are you doing Wednesday? Because I've got a gig

1057
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: for you. He goes, what about history?

1058
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 5: Are going to be in your background at Summer Bay.

1059
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: No, this stuff is going to be interesting. It's all

1060
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Speaker 3: about history, is about Neanthals. It's really educational. So he

1061
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: turns up and then this happens.

1062
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Speaker 11: Now speak, now, let's make us sound.

1063
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Speaker 10: And again.

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Speaker 3: And the comments the poor guy, the comments on the

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Speaker 3: internet and behind that underneath it. One of them was saying, see,

1066
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Speaker 3: his teachers thought to be flipping burgers, and he's shown them.

1067
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Speaker 5: But I think that one of the things I did, because.

1068
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Speaker 3: You've never had to do voice over stuff like that.

1069
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Speaker 1: I think the thing most far away from my wheelhouse

1070
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Speaker 1: was I had to do this like it was a

1071
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Speaker 1: demonstration of the Toyota Prius. I'm the least Toyota Prius

1072
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Speaker 1: person in the world. But the money was good, and

1073
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Speaker 1: they said, we don't want it to look like we

1074
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Speaker 1: want to look like a TV show. It's an ad

1075
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Speaker 1: for prayers, but it's not an ad. So it was

1076
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Speaker 1: me just talking about how great the toys that last

1077
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Speaker 1: week we showed the technology that enables the hybrid car

1078
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Speaker 1: to dramatically reduce fuel consumption and harmful exhaust emissions. But

1079
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Speaker 1: what's it actually like to drive. We're about to find.

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Speaker 3: Out, right, Au two, that's enough.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, I was young, I needed the money. Don't

1082
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Speaker 1: judge me. Well, we'll be back again.

1083
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Speaker 3: We'll be back again tomorrow. Jimmy Carr, our favorite comedian,

1084
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Speaker 3: is on the show Toro.

1085
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Speaker 1: He's got a new show act called backham Hall.

1086
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Speaker 3: But he's got a new movie called That's a movie called.

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Speaker 3: He also is doing a stand up too. There's lots

1088
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Speaker 3: to chat to him about.

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Speaker 5: He's a funny guy. Have a safe day, have.

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Speaker 3: A safe date.

1091
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Speaker 1: Won Can we get can we get Elliott back?

1092
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Speaker 3: He's not making you sound better?

1093
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Speaker 1: Good to you? Well, thank go, that's over.

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Speaker 2: Catch up on the Jonesy and Demanda podcast. Download the

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Speaker 2: every second of Jonesy and Amanda on demand. Search for

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