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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families Podcast. It's the podcast for.

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Speaker 2: The time poor parent who just wants answers.

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Speaker 1: Now, I love Fridays.

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Speaker 3: Hello, this is doctor Justin Coulson, the author of a

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Speaker 3: bunch of books.

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Speaker 1: About how to make your family happier.

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Speaker 3: I'm here today with Kate Mead, who has joined me

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Speaker 3: for a week of podcast fun. Kate, thanks for joining

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Speaker 3: me for the final time this week.

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Speaker 1: This has been such a treat to have you.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's been fabulous and a happy Friday. And don't worry,

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Speaker 2: beautiful Kylie will be back again on Monday.

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Speaker 4: So programming as normal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right now.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, it's been really great to be with you,

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Speaker 3: but I am looking forward to being with my wife again.

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Speaker 2: I think it's I'm not offended by that at all.

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Speaker 1: So glad, but this has been such a great week.

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Speaker 3: I think that as we go through this move and

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Speaker 3: make the transition to our new home, and I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if Kylie's ever sick, or maybe if I'm sick,

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Speaker 3: we'll need a replacement, maybe you can do the Happy

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Speaker 3: Families podcast with Kylie. I'm nervous about that thought, so Kate.

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Speaker 3: Every Friday on the Happy Families podcast, we do this

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Speaker 3: thing called I'll Do Better Tomorrow. The idea is that

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Speaker 3: we reflect on the week that was and we consider

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Speaker 3: what we've done well or maybe what we haven't. It's

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Speaker 3: about being intentional and reflective and thinking, how can I

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Speaker 3: our favorite segment, and I'd love to know is there

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Speaker 3: anything that really strikes you about what you could do

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Speaker 3: better tomorrow based on either what you nailed this week

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Speaker 2: Well, this one, for me is something that I think

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Speaker 2: I'm still processing in that I guess it's about thinking

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Speaker 2: had some challenges in the meadhousehold. We've had a child

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Speaker 2: being able to catch up with family. That's my Victorian experience.

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Speaker 2: But this week, justin I had to have a mumcation

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Speaker 2: you've heard about a mumble case.

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Speaker 3: not to mention the physical load that mums carry in homes.

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Speaker 3: Research tells us really clearly that they carry an enormous,

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Speaker 3: enormously disproportionate load in most homes. Even if we're not

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Speaker 3: following the traditional patterns of division of labor, mums do

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Speaker 3: your mumcation.

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Speaker 2: I booked a little hotel in Melbourne, ordered the big

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Speaker 4: And it was just peace.

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Speaker 2: And if I reflect on this week of sharing with

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Speaker 2: one or which was Monday, I'd said to you, we've

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Speaker 1: So there was all this guilt.

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Speaker 4: So not only am I about to.

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Speaker 3: right Yeah, yeah, nice work, Kate.

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Speaker 1: You're doing very well here. Yeah, but yeah, no judgment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I come back happier, I come back rested, and

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Speaker 1: It was so important. So I think that I think

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Speaker 3: In fact, while you're there, why don't you all your

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Speaker 3: I'm really glad you shared that one, thank you, and

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Speaker 3: I hope that inspires a whole lot of parents to

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Speaker 2: It's the Happy Families Podcast. The podcast for the time

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Speaker 2: poor parent who just wants answers now with Justin and Kate.

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Speaker 3: So I'll do better tomorrow is were we reflect on

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's probably a very silly question for me

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the correct answer to that. Cape Mead Radio

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Speaker 2: Well, it was perfect if you asked me and Justin,

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Speaker 4: And yeah, it's just been a wonderful week. So thank you.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's been great to have you.

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Speaker 3: I think that anyone who's listened to the podcast this

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Speaker 1: And if the need arises again, we'd be glad to

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Speaker 4: Back and I would be honored. Thank you, Justin, Hey.

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Speaker 3: I hope you do get to spend some really high

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