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Speaker 1: Dumb mission with Jonesy and Amanda. Well, doctor Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: of BONDI is here bad face around here? Well, you

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Speaker 1: know my rules around only showing my face. And that

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Speaker 1: music is playing, so I'm glad to know it was

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Speaker 1: queued up and ready to go. It's like the Gurkha's sword.

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Speaker 1: Once the sword comes out, it's got to draw blood. True.

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Speaker 1: I've been hearing a lot of the a lot of

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Speaker 1: the interesting stories, and and I think this is a

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Speaker 1: really fascinating time of year because where we are right

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Speaker 1: in the in the middle of peak swooping season, and

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Speaker 1: it's happening not just because of a disdain for Egger

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Speaker 1: letter sandwiches. It does go, it does go much deeper

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Speaker 1: than that. Did you guys know it's actually only the

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Speaker 1: males that swoop. It's a male thing. It's almost like

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Speaker 1: a rite of passage for the males to keep us

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Speaker 1: away from their nests so that they're they're essentially just

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Speaker 1: doing what what Instinctively, their their mind is telling me

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Speaker 1: to do which is which is, and keep you away

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Speaker 1: and keep their nests safe. But what do we do?

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Speaker 1: How can we survive it? Well? The problem in many

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Speaker 1: respects and if you look at the people who are

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Speaker 1: getting swooped, and you look at that video that has

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Speaker 1: gone viral. What happens is when we ride bikes, we

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Speaker 1: run into their little bit of territory where the nest is.

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Speaker 1: They all of a sudden they look up and there's

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Speaker 1: something running towards them or screaming towards them. They immediately think,

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Speaker 1: oh geez, there's there's a quick threat that's coming in.

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Speaker 1: So that's what actually triggers the swooping is the sudden

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Speaker 1: movement into their area. But what makes it worse is

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Speaker 1: once they swoop, we tend to ride or run away,

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Speaker 1: so they feel like they've been successful. So that almost

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Speaker 1: amplifies amplifies the swooping behavior. But the key to actually

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Speaker 1: actually finding diplomacy and settling this is to actually stand

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Speaker 1: your ground. So if you can do it safely, what

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Speaker 1: will happen is the makeplie will see someone who just

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Speaker 1: stops there, and if you show them your face safely,

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Speaker 1: so kick sunglasses on, actually take your hat off, cover

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Speaker 1: your eyes if you're not sure if they're if they're

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Speaker 1: incoming at that point, but they need to see your face.

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Speaker 1: And if you stands ground, don't try to raid their nest.

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Speaker 1: Don't threaten them, just stand your ground for a few

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Speaker 1: seconds and then walk off. They actually remember your face

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Speaker 1: and they know that you're not a threat, and after

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Speaker 1: that point they shouldn't swoop you anymore. It's a quirk

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Speaker 1: of their behavior. They can actually they're very intelligent and

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Speaker 1: they'll actually remember your face. They can remember up to

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Speaker 1: about a thousand different faces. Jeez. It takes a brave

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Speaker 1: person though, to stand there and let the magpie come

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Speaker 1: at your face. Well, if you can see where if

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Speaker 1: it swooped you, if you can see where it's gone

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Speaker 1: and perched, then you're usually okay. You can look up

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Speaker 1: at it and try and make like genuinely make eye contact.

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Speaker 1: Say I'm not bringing any eggoletta sandwiches into your into

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Speaker 1: your space. Everything's going to be okay, and then walk off. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: if you have some mints or something like that, which

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Speaker 1: they do, they do really enjoy it. You can, you

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Speaker 1: can really bite them off. Yeah, they're like they're like

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Speaker 1: a US government at election time. They can be bought off.

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Speaker 1: And if you've seen Jonesy walk as well, you think anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so they're a very intelligent animal. They're just doing what

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Speaker 1: comes naturally for them at this time of year, only

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Speaker 1: the males and and you can reach a truce with

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Speaker 1: them if you if you show them off your face

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Speaker 1: that that's the only thing they ask in return, And

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Speaker 1: you know you could ask them what is it you

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Speaker 1: can't face. I don't know, I don't know what. We're

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Speaker 1: getting advice and we're going to get a show as well.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what do we owe you for this, Chris?

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Speaker 1: This is extraordinary just I mean, it's just been enough

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Speaker 1: to hear my song being played and then to hear

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Speaker 1: your voices. It's more than enough to make reference to

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Speaker 1: Eggan letters Sam. We've all had what we need from this. Brannie.

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Speaker 1: Once again you have helped us measurably. A Manda will

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Speaker 1: fix you up later. Sure, I'll pay the invoice as

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Speaker 1: I always do. Thank you, every circles fixing up means

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Speaker 1: something very different with a cone of shame. Thank you, Chris,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. With join Z and Amanda,