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Speaker 1: Well, what a week it's been, Hayler.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's been some very big news, of course, which

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Speaker 2: you would have to be living under a rock not

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Speaker 2: to know. But we will get to that. Let's start

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Speaker 2: with business as usual, David, because you're still here.

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Speaker 3: Good morning morning.

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Speaker 2: Melbourne up to stay in Friday night. Lost this time horrible,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it. They got you got one? They got one.

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Speaker 2: But what happened?

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Speaker 3: A lot of things happened.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Ultimately we played really safe, unrisk or risk free

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Speaker 4: football I guess, and Melbourne came out and we're playing

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Speaker 4: a pretty strong brand rock from the start. They hit

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Speaker 4: the contents really hard and we're able to score early

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Speaker 4: and put us on the back foot I guess, and

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Speaker 4: we weren't able to recover throughout the night.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty early scoreboard pressure, even though they were kicking

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Speaker 5: a few points early. You could see they're getting the

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Speaker 5: ball inside forward fifty a lot. They looked a bit

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Speaker 5: like they did on Grand Final night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they played they found some of their

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Speaker 4: best form again I feel, and they were able to

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Speaker 4: score particularly early, pretty easily. They got a couple of

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Speaker 4: to control the ball and the field position through some

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Speaker 4: you know, winning those contests down the line with their

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Speaker 4: some of their forwards and yeah, as I said, we

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Speaker 4: weren't able to adjust. And I think it's been a

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Speaker 4: really being a bit safe and not putting our position

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Speaker 3: So that's something we're looking at.

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Speaker 2: Is playing in the wet a factor?

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Speaker 3: It seems to be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's I think it played its part. I

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Speaker 4: don't think it is the reason, you know, we're having

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Speaker 4: those poor performances, but yeah, we've analyzed that. We've looked

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Speaker 4: at that and it certainly wasn't being wet and a

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Speaker 4: bit slippery wasn't the reason.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, how was the turf make because on the telly

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Speaker 5: I was looking after all the you know, the soccer

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Speaker 5: games the previous week in the Eagles game, and we could.

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Speaker 1: See the bits that were replaced. Is it just like

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Speaker 3: Was it?

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Speaker 4: We trained their midweek last week and it was not

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Speaker 4: and they were pretty ordinary. But I've just studium staff.

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Speaker 4: I think they replaced like a thousands square meters and yeah,

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Speaker 4: so the stuff they replaced was actually quite good, right,

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Speaker 4: certainly areas that are still a bit supering, a bit wet.

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Speaker 2: Does it get you know, they replaced like squares, don't

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Speaker 2: they does it get a bit lifty like I've tried

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Speaker 3: It's actually pretty it was pretty solid they replaced.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so even.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when I walked out there, my biggest concern is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure what they do exactly, but what

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Speaker 4: they did they did really well? Was just yeah, they're

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you see players get upset on a footy field. Now,

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Speaker 5: You don't see a player that upset for so long

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't much in that either.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they Melbourne had a tactic of getting after

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Speaker 3: I think, so you know, maybe they build themselves up.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, Christians certainly didn't respond to Sean's what he's

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we've got to be better in those situations

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Speaker 4: to help Sean as long as well.

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Speaker 5: But Sean being Sean sort of look like he's just

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was always a big voice, so hard to

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Speaker 2: But yeah, three must win games ahead, the first one

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Speaker 2: being the Bulldogs at Marvel Stadium this weekend, a game

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Speaker 2: it's going to rain in Melbourne. Do you think they'll

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Speaker 2: close the roof?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, they will.

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Speaker 2: Well that's good, yeah, yeah, very handy ahead, that's what

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Speaker 4: I think after Brad Scott's blow up many years ago,

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Speaker 5: They go, well, we could see the side slipping. We're

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Speaker 5: slipping down the ladder over the weekend. And then Carlton

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, and I think Geelong are the only team

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Speaker 4: a bit long.

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Speaker 2: This is why you never write your log off.

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Speaker 1: Kick a lot of goals, don't they.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're incredibly stacked in their fold half doing really well.

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Speaker 2: You held a press conference on Monday, Monday, Monday, and

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Speaker 2: well it took me by surprise announced you are retiring

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Speaker 2: at the end of the season.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now you said you didn't sleep for a week

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Speaker 4: The overwhelming sense for my wife and I is relief,

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Speaker 4: to be honest, Yeah, holding on to that. Last week

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Speaker 4: So yeah, relieve that it's kind of done and over.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, mate, there's me and I'm thinking about the timing.

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Speaker 5: You knew when you last spoke to Lisa, and I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, disappointed, Dave.

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Speaker 5: So you still got the ball a lot on the weekend, right,

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Speaker 5: thirty five disposals and there moments where you go maybe

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Speaker 5: next year. You know that once it was done and dusted,

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Speaker 5: the decisions made, You've chatted to family and counsel and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, mostly I still had I still have moments from

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Speaker 4: should I push try?

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Speaker 4: But yeah, my overwhelming sense is yeah, as I said, relief,

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Speaker 4: how I judge my games. But then going in and

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Speaker 4: I think will really pop and made me really comfortable,

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Speaker 2: We've been trolling through all the social media posts to

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Speaker 2: do with your announcement, and there has not been I

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Speaker 2: warn you, we're going to fall over you. There hasn't

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Speaker 2: been a single bad word about you or your career.

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Speaker 2: Even the premiere posted a dedication.

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Speaker 4: My mother in law sent me that Actually, yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: been incredibly overwhelming, to be honest. Yeah, my phone and

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Speaker 2: This is exactly why this did not be a bad word,

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Speaker 2: just turned everything off and just sat down, and you know,

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Speaker 2: but you're straight onto returning people's messages.

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Speaker 4: I tried, yeah, trying to raise right, I guess, But yeah,

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Speaker 4: as I said, it's been the response has been incredible,

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I guess. I'm really thankful to be able

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of squads too. You had a lot

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Speaker 5: of mates along the way. Yeah, fineen seasons.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was actually asked about some of the people who

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Speaker 3: Plenty more so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, those relationships and connections and friendships are what our

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Speaker 2: You say you don't know obviously, Yeah, what, Well, you've

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Speaker 2: said you don't know yet exactly what you want to

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Speaker 2: do post footy. Clearly media is one option, because we've

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Speaker 2: heard your calling games and so on. Would you coach?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Possibly, This is not me hiding a secret from you guys. Again,

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Speaker 4: I honestly have no concrete pathway out open to exploring

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Speaker 4: multiple possibilities. It's something I've really turned my mind to

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Speaker 4: over the last five years about what could possibly happen,

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Speaker 4: and trying different things and commentating you've mentioned. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: so we've got a period of time now where I

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Speaker 4: can explore these opportunities I guess, and have a think

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Speaker 4: about it and ultimately discussed with my wife and figure

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, big bash.

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Speaker 1: You've got a bit of a cricket background.

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Speaker 3: As well I do, but very media Okay. Yeah, there's so.

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Speaker 5: Many chances this time next year you'll be a marine biologist, mate,

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Speaker 5: because you have said to us so I probably never used.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have studied, I have, Yeah, I'm yeah, there

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm actually just finishing up a process to have

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Speaker 4: a manuscript published, so it might be a published scientific.

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Speaker 3: Author pretty soon. It's pretty cool. But yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you go to the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Man, yeah just think so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they need a marine biologist for this woman.

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Speaker 4: As I said, open to anything, open to discuss and

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Speaker 4: think about anything, but that decision will be down on

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Speaker 4: the track of it.

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Speaker 5: When Sydney came to town Rest, you see Den Cox

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Speaker 5: getting off the plane with the Sydney colors on. It's

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Speaker 5: always a bit weird because it was such an integral Eagle.

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Speaker 5: But it's a job now, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you look at most guys who go from

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Speaker 4: playing to some form of clubland job. Yeah, and they've

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Speaker 4: all spent time at other clubs and all that kind

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Speaker 4: of stuff, and they might come back to the original

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Speaker 4: like Justin's done for us and Josh Carr and Peter

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Speaker 4: Bell and yeah course, yeah, but it's not necessarily the

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Speaker 2: Well, nineteen seasons. Have you ever been suspended? I think

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Speaker 2: you might have been reported, But have you been suspended? No?

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Speaker 3: I have not.

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Speaker 2: You about Tim Tim Watson, I mean.

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Speaker 4: I've had to pay a few fines for bumping into

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Speaker 4: umpires accidentally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah sorry, yeah, but no I've never been suspended.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well that's quite we do know, gentleman Dave Monday.

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Speaker 5: Here, like the Bradman and footage is apologized to a

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Speaker 5: few blokes when you've actually flicked them in the eyeball

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Speaker 5: or sorry, straight up.

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Speaker 4: There have been a few erran arms and the things

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Speaker 4: over the journey, but not too many, and certainly none

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Speaker 4: with malicious intent.

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Speaker 1: Not many apologized David, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Well we do have you for a couple more weeks,

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Speaker 2: so that is good. As you know, I don't know

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Speaker 2: meet one, and you are a legend, Dake Monday. So plus,

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Speaker 2: as I said, do you say congratulations you have to.

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Speaker 5: That careers, Well, thank you, Thank you to you next

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Speaker 5: week though, before you go, what if flag mantle happens

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Speaker 5: this or next year? So it doesn't happen, an I

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Speaker 5: want to ask the question if if the boys want

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Speaker 5: a flag and you weren't there, David, how did you feel?

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously be very.

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Speaker 3: Pleased to the boy.

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Speaker 1: I want to be it for the man himself.

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Speaker 3: No, i'd be I'd feel incredibly proud.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I've invested as much as almost anyone

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Speaker 4: to get this group to where they are. They win

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Speaker 4: it next year or the year after or the year after,

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Speaker 4: I would still feel an ownership and a part of that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, truly part of it. Mate, you won't have it

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Speaker 5: everyone in the history of.

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Speaker 2: Good luck in Melbourne this weekend. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 2: next week.

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Speaker 1: So get