Speaker 1: The Flex and Rooms Daily Podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh, welcome bast to the Clownhouse. Juggling is in session.
Speaker 2: Up next, we're going to get how to ride on
Speaker 2: a bike with no handlebars? Really amazing juggler, really at
Speaker 2: low so did I. Yeah, this dude juggled like five
Speaker 2: things at a time, literally a glass, glass, bottles, champagne glasses,
Speaker 2: like it's honestly very horny behavior. I really really enjoyed that.
Speaker 3: And imagine, like my thing is my hand eye coordination
Speaker 3: will not allow me to do that. Even my mind
Speaker 3: body connection, like having my mind control my limbs to
Speaker 3: do things. It's just not doing what it should be doing.
Speaker 3: You can change, yeah, but it's not priority.
Speaker 2: So I'm fine.
Speaker 3: Like all the things I want to be, I don't
Speaker 3: want to be a juggler. I want to be a
Speaker 3: carpenter like Jesus.
Speaker 2: Jesus is a second coming. Well today, guys who are
Speaker 2: talking about nudes, a little bit of revenge porn in there.
Speaker 2: What happens when you break up with someone you need
Speaker 2: to delete their notes. As you can tell it's late
Speaker 2: in the day. My voice is slurring. It's been a
Speaker 2: big week. Slurring. My voice is saying I'm trying to
Speaker 2: just demolish a little can of soda. Ready only got
Speaker 2: a few more SIPs left you okay for me? Honestly,
Speaker 2: I am fleck and frooms. A few weekends ago, I
Speaker 2: was having quite a party time. Oh I had a
Speaker 2: few Halloween parties. She's getting near it and a friend
Speaker 2: of mine we see from Melbourne. She works in the
Speaker 2: event space, works for a lot of like indie festivals,
Speaker 2: and she's like, you gotta come to Carriage works with
Speaker 2: me to a thing called rush and I thought, oh,
Speaker 2: what's that? I didn't google it? I show up obviously.
Speaker 2: Courage works in Sydney. Is this kind of like depot place,
Speaker 2: so they have fashion Week and all these other kind
Speaker 2: of things. Super cool and what this was it was
Speaker 2: a fake club, so a simulate. It's a simulation of
Speaker 2: a club but at art instaate. I already love this.
Speaker 2: So you walk up and there's someone at the door saying, hey,
Speaker 2: you have new drinks to tending to be a person
Speaker 2: And then they drew an R on your on your wrist.
Speaker 2: Yeah rush you and she's like eating a lollipop like classic, Yeah,
Speaker 2: door person. I was a door person. I do remember.
Speaker 2: I see that for you extremely to get your how
Speaker 2: do you say? What's it called? When you can discern
Speaker 2: a creature landed on the on the job on the tools.
Speaker 2: I walk in and there's a big DJ on a
Speaker 2: kind of like platform in the middle, like little litterings
Speaker 2: of people dancing, and then all around the perimeter of
Speaker 2: the venue there's little stalls with people that you go
Speaker 2: up to and you can talk to them to trade things.
Speaker 2: So the first time we went up to was a
Speaker 2: tarot reading people. So you came up and say I
Speaker 2: want my tarot read and this person would read the
Speaker 2: taro for you. And what's happening in the installation is
Speaker 2: everyone in the stalls has microphones talking to you, and
Speaker 2: then at any given time their microphones start going over
Speaker 2: the speaker having a tarot read, and then it clicks
Speaker 2: in and they're talking about you and then go to
Speaker 2: a different one. So's that we went a booth which
Speaker 2: was this amazing person saying what's your most intimate club experience?
Speaker 2: It was kind of club based, sex based. It was
Speaker 2: a queer space and you had to tell them this
Speaker 2: really intimate club story to win a sex toy. So
Speaker 2: on this big table, there's like a glass dill doough
Speaker 2: butt plug that your voice kind of broke for hour.
Speaker 2: Butt plug with a very little funny thing on the end,
Speaker 2: A whip, a gag, what else, A whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 2: I told a story. My story is so good that
Speaker 2: I want a butt plug. Nice. First of a butt plug,
Speaker 2: there's a kissing booth. The person gives you hand massages
Speaker 2: and kisses. I chickened out a bit and walked away.
Speaker 2: I can't close close. Then the other table, but like
Speaker 2: everyone's kissing. It just was crazy to me. And then
Speaker 2: the last bit was manned by this most beautiful person,
Speaker 2: like striking looking, and they were like, we just want
Speaker 2: to I just want you to ask me a question
Speaker 2: or I asked you a question, and we just have
Speaker 2: a really nice conversation and you can emerge like a
Speaker 2: lip gloss or a keychain or a bum bag. And
Speaker 2: it was just such a nice This sounds so cool.
Speaker 2: It was so cool. So it was by a place
Speaker 2: called Performance Space. Is like, oh yeah, I'm familiar, and
Speaker 2: it was called rush Still. It was for one night.
Speaker 2: It was part of the day Internight Festival. Okay, so
Speaker 2: this is my issue.
Speaker 3: I don't know when this happened, but there was a
Speaker 3: time where because of Facebook, we had access to events.
Speaker 3: Even if you weren't going to an event, your event
Speaker 3: calendar was booked because you could see what was happening
Speaker 3: in your vicinity, in your area, or what your friends
Speaker 3: were going to. When we mass, you know, the mass
Speaker 3: exodus away from Facebook, we didn't replace that tool, and
Speaker 3: so now it's so hard to know what is happening
Speaker 3: and when it's happening without trawling through time out broad sheet,
Speaker 3: being in the right place at the right time. Everything
Speaker 3: seems so unnecessarily secret, but I don't think it means
Speaker 3: to be, no, And I know it's really expensive to
Speaker 3: advertise digitally, so a lot of these events aren't, you know,
Speaker 3: putting any money towards boosting it on you know, Instagram
Speaker 3: or TikTok. But how I meant to know what's happening
Speaker 3: because these things sound right up my alley and I
Speaker 3: don't know, I.
Speaker 2: Know, and it could have been way more packed. I
Speaker 2: think it was on the night before as well, but
Speaker 2: I was like, this is I want to I had
Speaker 2: to put it on my story and just say everyone
Speaker 2: because it was on the next night, like you've got
Speaker 2: to go. There's something about marketing.
Speaker 3: It's a really it's a forgotten concept, hard to value
Speaker 3: concept because you need to be able to show people
Speaker 3: what it is before they attend.
Speaker 2: And knowing that, keep that in mind.
Speaker 3: You know, set up the space, you do a little mocks,
Speaker 3: set up do something please, but.
Speaker 2: You know not every space is safe.
Speaker 1: Flex and frooms FLEXI right.
Speaker 2: Off the that do you send nudes? Yes or no?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Cool? I was on Instagram obviously way way wait wait
Speaker 2: wait are we rushing?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 2: Why are we rushing? All? Get to it from Indy.
Speaker 2: Do you send nudes? Well, I won't tell you until
Speaker 2: after this. I keep you, keep you listening to the
Speaker 2: segment the cut posted this little tile, this infographic. Are
Speaker 2: you obligated to delete and excess nudes?
Speaker 1: Not obligated?
Speaker 2: Why are you going to phrase it like that? Are
Speaker 2: you obligated?
Speaker 3: So this says the way they phrase it is like,
Speaker 3: are you obligated to give a gift back once you
Speaker 3: break up?
Speaker 2: Like it's not. It's not an obligation. Should a written contract?
Speaker 2: So apparently a recent study revealed that one third of
Speaker 2: Americans have sent a nude photo in their lifetime, and
Speaker 2: of those, seventy three percent do it as often as
Speaker 2: once a month. The code of conduct around the receipt
Speaker 2: of nudes is pretty well established. The recipient of a
Speaker 2: naked photograph should neither pass it on nor show it
Speaker 2: to anyone. This, of course, does not turn anyone from
Speaker 2: breaking said rules. What public discourse is unpacked less exhaustively
Speaker 2: is the question of who has overship over a nude
Speaker 2: after the demise of a relationship, the sender or the receiver.
Speaker 2: This is some real twenty twenty two discourse. Is nude?
Speaker 2: Is this what Shakespeare died for? Is a nude given
Speaker 2: to us on loan, the duration of which correlates directly
Speaker 2: to the length of time of the relationship? Ha? Or
Speaker 2: is it like a present? Once you give it to someone,
Speaker 2: you forego the right to ask for it back. Does
Speaker 2: it belong to the recipient a token of lust lost
Speaker 2: tucked away in some misleaningly labeled folder for eternity? Or
Speaker 2: do the rules change when either party enters a new relationship.
Speaker 2: You definitely license the nude you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Period of time? Yeah, you license it for the duration
Speaker 2: of the relationship. Personally, have I ever sent a nude?
Speaker 2: I think if it was ten years ago. I haven't
Speaker 2: sent a nude, You're a liar. Never sent a nude
Speaker 2: with my face and it put it that way. Okay,
Speaker 2: but no, I don't really, I've never I've never sent
Speaker 2: a nude. That's like, yes, I've sent a nude. I'm
Speaker 2: just too I'm just too scared of it coming back
Speaker 2: to me. However, for me, I've got a terrytowel bags.
Speaker 1: What's in it?
Speaker 2: Terry Towell terrytel bag that my auntie Ma has made
Speaker 2: for me. I was walking on the street yesterday. Look
Speaker 2: what I came across. What's happening for Mini? What's happening?
Speaker 2: It's a newspaper piece that I found on the ground.
Speaker 2: It's not a plastic just one piece.
Speaker 3: Why are you.
Speaker 2: Bringing scraps from the ground.
Speaker 3: It's like this crumpled single newspaper with holes in it.
Speaker 2: It's definitely got dirt all over. It feels grimy. But
Speaker 2: I had written this down to talk about on the show,
Speaker 2: and then I come across Revenge Porn is on the
Speaker 2: Young is Rising Plan to fight trend. Now I'm going
Speaker 2: to assume this is Herald Sun. It's giving herold Sun. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Revenge Porn on Young is Rising plan to fight trend.
Speaker 2: I'll read us some of it. Reports a so called
Speaker 2: revengeborn on social media by young people has almost doubled
Speaker 2: over the past year, according to shocking new figures from
Speaker 2: the e Safety Commission that inspired a new campaign against
Speaker 2: the trend. Image based abuse is one of the several
Speaker 2: forms of harassment against teenagers and young adults online that
Speaker 2: will be targeted in a new campaign across YouTube, TikTok
Speaker 2: and Instagram. I have talked about it. You've heard about this.
Speaker 2: It's called We've talked about it. No, it's called Scroll
Speaker 2: and hadn't been formulated with input from six Gen X
Speaker 2: creators and was designed to help young Australians be more
Speaker 2: aware for when they experienced strife online. So yeah, revenge
Speaker 2: point is on the rise, but the government is looking
Speaker 2: at ways to try and mitigate it. But it got
Speaker 2: me thinking. Let's say you've sent a nude who's obligated
Speaker 2: to delete it, you or the recipient. If it was me,
Speaker 2: if I had a NEWD would I delete it? It'd
Speaker 2: be hard to delete, huh. I'm the kind of person
Speaker 2: that love I'm a nostalgic person, so I'd love to
Speaker 2: do the like Bi Yearly Sift through every Facebook photo
Speaker 2: that's ever been of me, just to like assess how
Speaker 2: I've changed. But I think if I'm being a good person,
Speaker 2: i'd delete it. But if they had one of me,
Speaker 2: maybe it's fair game. Sometimes it's good to keep ammunition.
Speaker 2: We need to ask people we regularly send nudes.
Speaker 3: There must be a whole code of conduct that that
Speaker 3: is existing.
Speaker 2: I just don't trust the internet, Like remember the fappening? No,
Speaker 2: I don't do you not remember the fappening phrase? But
Speaker 2: not what happened when a bunch of female actors got
Speaker 2: their ye clouds hacked and their stuff hacked or their
Speaker 2: nude photos That really shook me to my core. You
Speaker 2: can't trust hackers. No, you can't trust hackers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't have much to say on this one,
Speaker 3: but I feel like there's a whole etiquette, a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of social norms that.
Speaker 2: We don't know yet of the community. Maybe we should
Speaker 2: chat to someone about it. Somebod who do you send nudes?
Speaker 2: Brooks our producer sends nudes? Okay, come over here, Brookie Brookini,
Speaker 2: give us the flour one one bab.
Speaker 4: So my rule is if someone sends me a nude,
Speaker 4: I automatically save it to my phone, and I assume
Speaker 4: any nude I send to anyone else is the same.
Speaker 4: I'm not talking just partner. I mean like group chats
Speaker 4: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Like it's fair. We got group chat nudes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just like a casual one to your friends.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's funny.
Speaker 2: I mean Brooks grip, but like I also keep X's one.
Speaker 2: But would you ever send them on No.
Speaker 4: That you don't do. You just kind of keep it
Speaker 4: for yourself. And it's like in your y cloud storage.
Speaker 2: And what about if you got hacked and they got
Speaker 2: leaked out? Is that your fault?
Speaker 4: Well, my snapchat did get hacked, and I'm pretty sure
Speaker 4: stuff got out there, But I mean it happens, so
Speaker 4: I'm not ashamed.
Speaker 2: Of its slagh queen, our sex positive queen. That's booky.
Speaker 2: I love it. Thanks, Thanks honey.
Speaker 1: This is Flex and Frooms on Kita.
Speaker 3: Everybody knows Flex and Frooms are on their quest to
Speaker 3: be Jeff Bezos's seconds quadrillionaires.
Speaker 2: You know, we're a little bit away, but.
Speaker 3: Tides could change, the luck could turn at any given moment,
Speaker 3: and every now and then people send me damn so
Speaker 3: little tips and tricks get my money on. You know,
Speaker 3: this one in particular sounded fun, but I'm like, I
Speaker 3: need the fact check, and I also need you to
Speaker 3: explain how it's gonna work. So remember how I was
Speaker 3: telling you that Soldier Boy back when LimeWire existed, came
Speaker 3: to prominence because he would wait until you know, someone
Speaker 3: famous releasing a song, so like Kanye West, Britney Spears,
Speaker 3: and then he would upload his song onto LimeWire, rename
Speaker 3: it to be the same name as the new Kanye
Speaker 3: West song. People would download it and not realize they
Speaker 3: were downloading solo Boy.
Speaker 2: So annoying genius. I love it well.
Speaker 3: Someone said that that show reminded them of this podcast
Speaker 3: they listened to didn't drop the name, or maybe they
Speaker 3: did and I forgot I don't know where. Recently, a
Speaker 3: guy has been renaming his songs on Spotify to common
Speaker 3: phrases you might say on Siri or Alexa or whatever,
Speaker 3: so it'll naturally stream his songs when you're asking for something,
Speaker 3: So like he might name his songs can you take
Speaker 3: me home?
Speaker 2: Or can you call Mom?
Speaker 3: And so then maybe Siri gets confused and it's like
Speaker 3: playing can you call Mom now? And then another stream
Speaker 3: and that works well allegedly.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 3: So not that we make music or getting any X
Speaker 3: back from Spotify, but I feel like there must be
Speaker 3: someone out there right now who could definitely capitalize on
Speaker 3: this today.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean you can't knock the hustle with that, can you.
Speaker 2: It's an amazing hustle.
Speaker 3: Some people are just smarter than other people, and it
Speaker 3: really shows and instances like this, and I just wish
Speaker 3: my brain would work in that way. Some people are
Speaker 3: just like they got the hustle built in them, like
Speaker 3: the quick get rich quick schemes ready to Like like
Speaker 3: this other guy, uh he said he got rich, not rich,
Speaker 3: but he made like a bit of a stack during COVID,
Speaker 3: selling these plastic clippies that you could use to pull
Speaker 3: your key cart out of the ATM so you didn't
Speaker 3: have to touch it.
Speaker 2: Now, very niche and also very American.
Speaker 3: But he said he made like six figures, so not
Speaker 3: bad and they were like a dollar or something. Anyway,
Speaker 3: more get rich quick schemes coming soon. Maybe we'll start
Speaker 3: a pyramid scheme.
Speaker 2: I think that's the natural procreation of people. I'm not
Speaker 2: above it.
Speaker 1: This is flex and froomes.
Speaker 2: FLEXI so I was on the talk and I carame
Speaker 2: across this video you know those ones, which is like
Speaker 2: they're playing Robolocks or something or Minecraft, while a AI
Speaker 2: voice is telling a story from Reddit. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: that's yeah amazing. So this one was, what is a
Speaker 2: really intimate thing you and your partner do that is
Speaker 2: interesting for a relationship that you didn't think would be
Speaker 2: an intimate thing you deal with someone. Then the AI
Speaker 2: voice reads out in an answer from Reddit, and this
Speaker 2: person says, this is a bit funny and silly and
Speaker 2: very intimate. My partner and I had been dating for
Speaker 2: a year and we get back from a night out
Speaker 2: and we both are busting. So we're in the car
Speaker 2: home and saying, oh my god, I'm busting. I'm busting,
Speaker 2: but we both need to y go and pee. And
Speaker 2: then he's like, I had this crazy idea that we
Speaker 2: both pee at the same time. So she sits down
Speaker 2: in the toilet, she stands a bus, she spreads the leg,
Speaker 2: she spreads the leg, and he's peeing in between the
Speaker 2: legs into the toilet. And he said, yeah, it was
Speaker 2: a really intimate moment. It was quite funny, and it
Speaker 2: was a nice mile stren in a relationship. I like people.
Speaker 3: And when I said he, any man don't have the
Speaker 3: best aim at the best of time, So why all
Speaker 3: of a sudden you have direct aim in this moment.
Speaker 3: Imagine his pea droplets grazing. I mean, I think it's funny.
Speaker 3: It's like a funny bit. I like little funny bits,
Speaker 3: but also really horrifying.
Speaker 2: Would you do it if I was dating? Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think I would do it if it was hot enough. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, have you ever peed on someone in the shower? No,
Speaker 3: but I pee in the shower if I need to.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting, I thought I was cute and funny. I
Speaker 2: do it if you're going to get into the shower
Speaker 2: after it's just some little gag ha.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but don't make it a habit. Don't get too
Speaker 3: comfortable because you start fighting around me. It's a chop
Speaker 3: if you go to the bathroom do a number two
Speaker 3: and it starts wafting into chop or the waft. But
Speaker 3: you can't help the waft FLEXI, you can definitely help
Speaker 3: the waft. You help the waft poo drops number one.
Speaker 2: That's I don't think that cuts through a hot steam
Speaker 2: of a big It doesn't cut through.
Speaker 3: But but if you time it well enough, just know
Speaker 3: my movements.
Speaker 1: If you don't, you need to go let me know.
Speaker 2: It's like sort myself FLEXI. You've not experienced a disgusting
Speaker 2: scent of someone doing a fat log and then using
Speaker 2: the ashot poo poo drops and then I walk in,
Speaker 2: I'm smelling like Pope, like naturally Australian ingredients with sweet shit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's terrifying. Poo drops, abolish poo drops.
Speaker 3: No, it depends because some some I'm using this one
Speaker 3: that's called number two, great brand, great, good brand name,
Speaker 3: but that one does a really good job when you
Speaker 3: put them after, But then you get the other ones
Speaker 3: you put before creates a seal on top, and when
Speaker 3: the poop goes under the water, the seal traps scent.
Speaker 2: See, I never know one of the shit's gonna come.
Speaker 2: I sit down, I start being open. There's still time,
Speaker 2: there's a window.
Speaker 3: Yeah, disgusting, but sweets disgusting.
Speaker 1: More of that.
Speaker 3: Disgusting and sweet. It's a very like hard line to figure.
Speaker 3: But once you find it, like calling someone a pet
Speaker 3: name like bushpeak, it's disgusting and sweet one banshee vibes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're listening to Flex and Frooms on Kada mis.
Speaker 3: Remina has a theory for us, and I am ready
Speaker 3: to dispute it, but for now I have my listening
Speaker 3: ears on and my seeing eyes open.
Speaker 2: So when we first started doing this radio show, I
Speaker 2: told you a story about how I like to take
Speaker 2: up both arm rest when I'm sitting in the middle
Speaker 2: of the seat on the plane. I tell that story often.
Speaker 2: It seems to have become a defining feature of my personality,
Speaker 2: according to Flex, and honestly, I've not done much to
Speaker 2: dispute it, so I will wear it. But I came
Speaker 2: across this article I think it was in Sydney Morning Harold,
Speaker 2: part of their Traveler offshoot, and it was about how
Speaker 2: this is an opinion piece, flying economy class turns us
Speaker 2: into selfish, angry and clueless people. You know, I don't disagree.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree, and I've said it before.
Speaker 3: I feel like nobody has a leg to stand on
Speaker 3: flying economy. So when we come onto the plane, we're
Speaker 3: talking about this is my middle seat, these are my
Speaker 3: arm rests. I want this, babes. Fuck you just made
Speaker 3: the cut for this flight. If it was really popping,
Speaker 3: you'd be in the front getting you know, table service.
Speaker 3: But at the back here we're all one and everyone
Speaker 3: needs to do their bit to be an upstanding person.
Speaker 2: If anything, people should turn it on. I guess well,
Speaker 2: essentially they were saying that we're all stuck in the
Speaker 2: fire box. All of the general niceties of gen pop no,
Speaker 2: keep going, keep going, all the general niceties of everyday society.
Speaker 2: Flies out of the window, out of the window, into
Speaker 2: the air. But I also learned that have you ever
Speaker 2: wondered where the flight attendants sleep? No? Do you ever
Speaker 2: think attendants sleep? Yeah? Don't they have a little bunk bed?
Speaker 2: Where is it? Though? Somewhere in the front. The bunk
Speaker 2: beds were above us. So when you're in the air
Speaker 2: and you think, oh my, I'm flying from Europe to Australia,
Speaker 2: this is taking eighteen hours. Where are the flight attendants?
Speaker 2: They're sleeping in bunk beds in ahead of our head.
Speaker 2: I love that, or in front of us, but mostly
Speaker 2: above our heads. How cool is that? That is really cool? Secily,
Speaker 2: I say this aord to say we are ban she's
Speaker 2: in the air. It's not just me.
Speaker 3: Maybe it should be a little psa though, because I
Speaker 3: feel as though something about flying makes me more accommodating
Speaker 3: than I usually would be, and I'm not an accommodating person.
Speaker 3: I don't really care so interesting, But something about us
Speaker 3: as being on that space, It's like we have our
Speaker 3: own little community for the next two hours, three hours,
Speaker 3: eight hours, and our experience here is as good as
Speaker 3: the rest of us make it. So you start getting,
Speaker 3: you know, getting antsy with the flight attendant. Now she's
Speaker 3: not nice to me. Okay, you know you leave a
Speaker 3: big hunker chunker in the bathroom.
Speaker 2: Now it's terrible for everyone. Hunker chunker.
Speaker 3: So if we all do our little bit, then we
Speaker 3: get off this scott free. But that being said, if
Speaker 3: I'm in the emergency, if I'm in the if if
Speaker 3: I'm in the emergency exit row and there is how
Speaker 3: do you say an incident, I'm not helping anyone.
Speaker 2: That's the real one.
Speaker 3: You're the one to be worried about, literally, because I've
Speaker 3: been doing my please and thank you. Do you want
Speaker 3: to grab your your luggage from off the top, I'm
Speaker 3: always doing one of those. Do you know the bathroom
Speaker 3: you just tap me. I'll be napping, all good or good.
Speaker 3: When push comes to shove and there's a bit of turbulence.
Speaker 3: I don't care who you are, You'll have to fend
Speaker 3: for yourself. And if the plane crashes and we somehow
Speaker 3: find our way to land, I'm raising everybody's suitcase first thing. Ah.
Speaker 3: Then I'm going a little stash a kilometer, a click
Speaker 3: that way, a little stash for the medicinal items, a
Speaker 3: little snacks like all of it.
Speaker 2: You know, I would stay with you if I was
Speaker 2: on a deserted so you should, because I'm serious. Everyone's like,
Speaker 2: we're gonna get saved. We're gonna get saved.
Speaker 3: I've already I've already started a new colony, and my
Speaker 3: frooms is my VP, who's CFO.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now I'm the jest because we're living in a
Speaker 2: monarch anyway.
Speaker 1: And I've talked to.
Speaker 3: Lot about my observations on how TikTok is ruining not
Speaker 3: only celebrity culture, but how we relate to celebrities, musicians,
Speaker 3: what we expect from them, how we expect to, you know,
Speaker 3: orient ourselves in their spaces, the whole thing. I've seen
Speaker 3: some real kooky stuff from gen Z Okay, I've seen
Speaker 3: them sit down at concerts when the main actor is on.
Speaker 3: I don't understand, but more recently, there's something about having
Speaker 3: not only your device at festivals, concerts or whatever, but
Speaker 3: being able to publish your content to a broader audience.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So, let's say, back in the days, if I wasn't
Speaker 3: at Splendor in the Grass or Falls festival or Lane
Speaker 3: Way and I wanted to see what was happening, I
Speaker 3: just had to hope that my friend was going to
Speaker 3: be there and I could see they're behind the scenes maybe,
Speaker 3: or that the artists.
Speaker 2: Would post, you know, one or two cute little.
Speaker 3: Stories about their experience, or you know, a publication would
Speaker 3: do a little photo gallery of what it was like,
Speaker 3: and then you just kind of have to feel in
Speaker 3: the gaps yourself. Thanks to TikTok, there's no gap filling.
Speaker 3: Every single minutia of every single outdoor event has been
Speaker 3: well documented, especially if it's a big artist.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So, when Harry Styles is touring as he's been for
Speaker 3: the last sixteen thousand years, every single day I see
Speaker 3: his outfit, I see him doing the same little you know,
Speaker 3: shimmy on the stage, the same little routine like I
Speaker 3: know he's set by now because everybody, I don't know
Speaker 3: who's posting it, but it's any it on my feed
Speaker 3: every single time. More recently, though, Steve Lacey, who.
Speaker 2: Bing bang, I'm saying the bits of his concert. Everyone's
Speaker 2: putting like, oh yeah, yes, yes, context please, He's sorry,
Speaker 2: ing bong.
Speaker 1: Steve Lacey.
Speaker 3: You all know him, alternative indie singer. But also he
Speaker 3: was in an R and B band called The Internet.
Speaker 3: He's been touring recently and he has a massed bit
Speaker 3: of extra fame from a few viral songs on TikTok
Speaker 3: so be it now. The thing about him is we
Speaker 3: don't know much about him, you know, And I kind
Speaker 3: of like that about celebrities. And thanks to all this
Speaker 3: concert footage coming out, what we're seeing isn't ideal. He's
Speaker 3: a bit of a rager. Didn't see that coming for him.
Speaker 3: There was an incident where a fan wanted to take
Speaker 3: a photo.
Speaker 1: Here's how.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen.
Speaker 3: It before, but there are a lot of fans will
Speaker 3: give their phones or their cameras to the artists to
Speaker 3: take a photo from their vantage point. Harry Styles, is
Speaker 3: it all the time? Megan thee Stallion's done it. It's
Speaker 3: quite common. In this instance, there was a bit of
Speaker 3: a gap between the barrier and the stage. So a
Speaker 3: fan throws their disposable camera at Steve Lacey kind of
Speaker 3: pegs him in the groin a little bit to the side,
Speaker 3: to the side. Steve Lacy stops his fan, stops his
Speaker 3: DJ and says, stop throwing things on my stage, gets
Speaker 3: pissed off. He walks off. He comes back right now.
Speaker 3: In that instance, people like he overreacted. I don't know
Speaker 3: if he did already didn't. All I know is that
Speaker 3: like he's upset cool. Another video comes out, there's a
Speaker 3: lull in the show some he says, can you say
Speaker 3: hello to my mom? He yells out can you be quiet?
Speaker 2: And then he goes straight into.
Speaker 3: Straight into singing, And it's like, I like knowing that
Speaker 3: celebrities and musicians and famous people are multifaceted, but it
Speaker 3: does nothing for their career, nothing at all. Thames, if
Speaker 3: you're aware, she's featured on Drake's track, She's written music
Speaker 3: for Beyonce. She was featured in a very famous TikTok
Speaker 3: series with this guy does outfits outfits of the day.
Speaker 3: So he asks you, like, hey, you know what are
Speaker 3: you wearing? Where did you get it from? And he
Speaker 3: starts Every video the same way, doesn't matter if he's
Speaker 3: talking a Doge Cat or Solan.
Speaker 2: She says, hey, what's your name?
Speaker 3: And every time the artist says hey, my name is
Speaker 3: Doja Cat, he asks Thames. Tames is someone you probably
Speaker 3: know by voice, not by face as well, right, like
Speaker 3: really famous, but like not that visibly noticeable, not so
Speaker 3: easy to discern.
Speaker 2: What she looks like, He says, hey, what's your name?
Speaker 2: She goes, I mean looking promise and looking good. And
Speaker 2: I think, like, you know, there's something.
Speaker 3: There was something about being able to curate your celebrity
Speaker 3: persona to like such a specific point, and people are
Speaker 3: missing that and they're allowing themselves to be seen too closely.
Speaker 3: And I feel like it's all gonna backfire because one
Speaker 3: things that fent one thing that fans claim.
Speaker 2: To like but they don't.
Speaker 3: It's authenticity one hundred percent, and I want your authentic self.
Speaker 3: You're looking grumpy, it's a chop. You're looking ungrateful, it's
Speaker 3: a chop. You look like you want to be somewhere else.
Speaker 1: It's a chop.
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, I don't know if it's gonna
Speaker 3: be like a death of celebrity or something, but like
Speaker 3: then it's gonna be some kind of revolution. I know
Speaker 3: what it is, but it's coming and it's coming quick,
Speaker 3: and I'm scoorrid for.
Speaker 2: Me, for them. Guillotine vibes, guilt, gillotine, guillotine, guillotine, guillotine.
Speaker 2: When the truit off.
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