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<v Speaker 1>The Flex and Rooms Daily Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, welcome bast to the Clownhouse. Juggling is in session.

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<v Speaker 2>Up next, we're going to get how to ride on

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<v Speaker 2>a bike with no handlebars? Really amazing juggler, really at

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<v Speaker 2>low so did I. Yeah, this dude juggled like five

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<v Speaker 2>things at a time, literally a glass, glass, bottles, champagne glasses,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's honestly very horny behavior. I really really enjoyed that.

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<v Speaker 3>And imagine, like my thing is my hand eye coordination

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<v Speaker 3>will not allow me to do that. Even my mind

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<v Speaker 3>body connection, like having my mind control my limbs to

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<v Speaker 3>do things. It's just not doing what it should be doing.

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<v Speaker 3>You can change, yeah, but it's not priority.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Like all the things I want to be, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to be a juggler. I want to be a

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<v Speaker 3>carpenter like Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus is a second coming. Well today, guys who are

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<v Speaker 2>talking about nudes, a little bit of revenge porn in there.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens when you break up with someone you need

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<v Speaker 2>to delete their notes. As you can tell it's late

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<v Speaker 2>in the day. My voice is slurring. It's been a

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<v Speaker 2>big week. Slurring. My voice is saying I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>just demolish a little can of soda. Ready only got

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<v Speaker 2>a few more SIPs left you okay for me? Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I am fleck and frooms. A few weekends ago, I

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<v Speaker 2>was having quite a party time. Oh I had a

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<v Speaker 2>few Halloween parties. She's getting near it and a friend

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<v Speaker 2>of mine we see from Melbourne. She works in the

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<v Speaker 2>event space, works for a lot of like indie festivals,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like, you gotta come to Carriage works with

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<v Speaker 2>me to a thing called rush and I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>what's that? I didn't google it? I show up obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>Courage works in Sydney. Is this kind of like depot place,

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<v Speaker 2>so they have fashion Week and all these other kind

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<v Speaker 2>of things. Super cool and what this was it was

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<v Speaker 2>a fake club, so a simulate. It's a simulation of

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<v Speaker 2>a club but at art instaate. I already love this.

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<v Speaker 2>So you walk up and there's someone at the door saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you have new drinks to tending to be a person

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<v Speaker 2>And then they drew an R on your on your wrist.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah rush you and she's like eating a lollipop like classic, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>door person. I was a door person. I do remember.

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<v Speaker 2>I see that for you extremely to get your how

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<v Speaker 2>do you say? What's it called? When you can discern

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<v Speaker 2>a creature landed on the on the job on the tools.

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<v Speaker 2>I walk in and there's a big DJ on a

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like platform in the middle, like little litterings

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<v Speaker 2>of people dancing, and then all around the perimeter of

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<v Speaker 2>the venue there's little stalls with people that you go

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<v Speaker 2>up to and you can talk to them to trade things.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first time we went up to was a

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<v Speaker 2>tarot reading people. So you came up and say I

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<v Speaker 2>want my tarot read and this person would read the

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<v Speaker 2>taro for you. And what's happening in the installation is

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<v Speaker 2>everyone in the stalls has microphones talking to you, and

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<v Speaker 2>then at any given time their microphones start going over

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<v Speaker 2>the speaker having a tarot read, and then it clicks

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<v Speaker 2>in and they're talking about you and then go to

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<v Speaker 2>a different one. So's that we went a booth which

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<v Speaker 2>was this amazing person saying what's your most intimate club experience?

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of club based, sex based. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a queer space and you had to tell them this

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<v Speaker 2>really intimate club story to win a sex toy. So

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<v Speaker 2>on this big table, there's like a glass dill doough

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<v Speaker 2>butt plug that your voice kind of broke for hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Butt plug with a very little funny thing on the end,

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<v Speaker 2>A whip, a gag, what else, A whole bunch of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I told a story. My story is so good that

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<v Speaker 2>I want a butt plug. Nice. First of a butt plug,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a kissing booth. The person gives you hand massages

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<v Speaker 2>and kisses. I chickened out a bit and walked away.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't close close. Then the other table, but like

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's kissing. It just was crazy to me. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the last bit was manned by this most beautiful person,

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<v Speaker 2>like striking looking, and they were like, we just want

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<v Speaker 2>to I just want you to ask me a question

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<v Speaker 2>or I asked you a question, and we just have

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<v Speaker 2>a really nice conversation and you can emerge like a

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<v Speaker 2>lip gloss or a keychain or a bum bag. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was just such a nice This sounds so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so cool. So it was by a place

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<v Speaker 2>called Performance Space. Is like, oh yeah, I'm familiar, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was called rush Still. It was for one night.

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<v Speaker 2>It was part of the day Internight Festival. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>this is my issue.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know when this happened, but there was a

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<v Speaker 3>time where because of Facebook, we had access to events.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if you weren't going to an event, your event

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<v Speaker 3>calendar was booked because you could see what was happening

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<v Speaker 3>in your vicinity, in your area, or what your friends

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<v Speaker 3>were going to. When we mass, you know, the mass

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<v Speaker 3>exodus away from Facebook, we didn't replace that tool, and

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<v Speaker 3>so now it's so hard to know what is happening

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<v Speaker 3>and when it's happening without trawling through time out broad sheet,

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<v Speaker 3>being in the right place at the right time. Everything

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<v Speaker 3>seems so unnecessarily secret, but I don't think it means

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<v Speaker 3>to be, no, And I know it's really expensive to

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<v Speaker 3>advertise digitally, so a lot of these events aren't, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>putting any money towards boosting it on you know, Instagram

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<v Speaker 3>or TikTok. But how I meant to know what's happening

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<v Speaker 3>because these things sound right up my alley and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, and it could have been way more packed. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was on the night before as well, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is I want to I had

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<v Speaker 2>to put it on my story and just say everyone

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<v Speaker 2>because it was on the next night, like you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to go. There's something about marketing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a really it's a forgotten concept, hard to value

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<v Speaker 3>concept because you need to be able to show people

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<v Speaker 3>what it is before they attend.

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<v Speaker 2>And knowing that, keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, set up the space, you do a little mocks,

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<v Speaker 3>set up do something please, but.

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<v Speaker 2>You know not every space is safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and frooms FLEXI right.

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<v Speaker 2>Off the that do you send nudes? Yes or no?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Cool? I was on Instagram obviously way way wait wait

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<v Speaker 2>wait are we rushing?

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<v Speaker 3>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Why are we rushing? All? Get to it from Indy.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you send nudes? Well, I won't tell you until

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<v Speaker 2>after this. I keep you, keep you listening to the

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<v Speaker 2>segment the cut posted this little tile, this infographic. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you obligated to delete and excess nudes?

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<v Speaker 1>Not obligated?

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you going to phrase it like that? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you obligated?

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<v Speaker 3>So this says the way they phrase it is like,

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<v Speaker 3>are you obligated to give a gift back once you

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<v Speaker 3>break up?

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's not. It's not an obligation. Should a written contract?

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<v Speaker 2>So apparently a recent study revealed that one third of

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<v Speaker 2>Americans have sent a nude photo in their lifetime, and

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<v Speaker 2>of those, seventy three percent do it as often as

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<v Speaker 2>once a month. The code of conduct around the receipt

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<v Speaker 2>of nudes is pretty well established. The recipient of a

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<v Speaker 2>naked photograph should neither pass it on nor show it

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<v Speaker 2>to anyone. This, of course, does not turn anyone from

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<v Speaker 2>breaking said rules. What public discourse is unpacked less exhaustively

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<v Speaker 2>is the question of who has overship over a nude

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<v Speaker 2>after the demise of a relationship, the sender or the receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>This is some real twenty twenty two discourse. Is nude?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this what Shakespeare died for? Is a nude given

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<v Speaker 2>to us on loan, the duration of which correlates directly

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<v Speaker 2>to the length of time of the relationship? Ha? Or

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<v Speaker 2>is it like a present? Once you give it to someone,

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<v Speaker 2>you forego the right to ask for it back. Does

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<v Speaker 2>it belong to the recipient a token of lust lost

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<v Speaker 2>tucked away in some misleaningly labeled folder for eternity? Or

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<v Speaker 2>do the rules change when either party enters a new relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>You definitely license the nude you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Period of time? Yeah, you license it for the duration

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<v Speaker 2>of the relationship. Personally, have I ever sent a nude?

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<v Speaker 2>I think if it was ten years ago. I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>sent a nude, You're a liar. Never sent a nude

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<v Speaker 2>with my face and it put it that way. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but no, I don't really, I've never I've never sent

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<v Speaker 2>a nude. That's like, yes, I've sent a nude. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just too I'm just too scared of it coming back

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<v Speaker 2>to me. However, for me, I've got a terrytowel bags.

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<v Speaker 1>What's in it?

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<v Speaker 2>Terry Towell terrytel bag that my auntie Ma has made

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<v Speaker 2>for me. I was walking on the street yesterday. Look

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<v Speaker 2>what I came across. What's happening for Mini? What's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a newspaper piece that I found on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a plastic just one piece.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you.

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<v Speaker 2>Bringing scraps from the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like this crumpled single newspaper with holes in it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely got dirt all over. It feels grimy. But

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<v Speaker 2>I had written this down to talk about on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I come across Revenge Porn is on the

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<v Speaker 2>Young is Rising Plan to fight trend. Now I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to assume this is Herald Sun. It's giving herold Sun. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>Revenge Porn on Young is Rising plan to fight trend.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll read us some of it. Reports a so called

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<v Speaker 2>revengeborn on social media by young people has almost doubled

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<v Speaker 2>over the past year, according to shocking new figures from

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<v Speaker 2>the e Safety Commission that inspired a new campaign against

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<v Speaker 2>the trend. Image based abuse is one of the several

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<v Speaker 2>forms of harassment against teenagers and young adults online that

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<v Speaker 2>will be targeted in a new campaign across YouTube, TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>and Instagram. I have talked about it. You've heard about this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called We've talked about it. No, it's called Scroll

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<v Speaker 2>and hadn't been formulated with input from six Gen X

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<v Speaker 2>creators and was designed to help young Australians be more

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<v Speaker 2>aware for when they experienced strife online. So yeah, revenge

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<v Speaker 2>point is on the rise, but the government is looking

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<v Speaker 2>at ways to try and mitigate it. But it got

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<v Speaker 2>me thinking. Let's say you've sent a nude who's obligated

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<v Speaker 2>to delete it, you or the recipient. If it was me,

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<v Speaker 2>if I had a NEWD would I delete it? It'd

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<v Speaker 2>be hard to delete, huh. I'm the kind of person

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<v Speaker 2>that love I'm a nostalgic person, so I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>do the like Bi Yearly Sift through every Facebook photo

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<v Speaker 2>that's ever been of me, just to like assess how

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<v Speaker 2>I've changed. But I think if I'm being a good person,

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<v Speaker 2>i'd delete it. But if they had one of me,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's fair game. Sometimes it's good to keep ammunition.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to ask people we regularly send nudes.

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<v Speaker 3>There must be a whole code of conduct that that

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<v Speaker 3>is existing.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't trust the internet, Like remember the fappening? No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do you not remember the fappening phrase? But

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<v Speaker 2>not what happened when a bunch of female actors got

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<v Speaker 2>their ye clouds hacked and their stuff hacked or their

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<v Speaker 2>nude photos That really shook me to my core. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't trust hackers. No, you can't trust hackers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't have much to say on this one,

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<v Speaker 3>but I feel like there's a whole etiquette, a whole

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of social norms that.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know yet of the community. Maybe we should

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<v Speaker 2>chat to someone about it. Somebod who do you send nudes?

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<v Speaker 2>Brooks our producer sends nudes? Okay, come over here, Brookie Brookini,

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<v Speaker 2>give us the flour one one bab.

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<v Speaker 4>So my rule is if someone sends me a nude,

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<v Speaker 4>I automatically save it to my phone, and I assume

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<v Speaker 4>any nude I send to anyone else is the same.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not talking just partner. I mean like group chats

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<v Speaker 4>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's fair. We got group chat nudes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, just like a casual one to your friends.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Brooks grip, but like I also keep X's one.

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<v Speaker 2>But would you ever send them on No.

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<v Speaker 4>That you don't do. You just kind of keep it

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<v Speaker 4>for yourself. And it's like in your y cloud storage.

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<v Speaker 2>And what about if you got hacked and they got

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<v Speaker 2>leaked out? Is that your fault?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, my snapchat did get hacked, and I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 4>stuff got out there, But I mean it happens, so

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not ashamed.

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<v Speaker 2>Of its slagh queen, our sex positive queen. That's booky.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. Thanks, Thanks honey.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Flex and Frooms on Kita.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody knows Flex and Frooms are on their quest to

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<v Speaker 3>be Jeff Bezos's seconds quadrillionaires.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're a little bit away, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Tides could change, the luck could turn at any given moment,

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<v Speaker 3>and every now and then people send me damn so

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<v Speaker 3>little tips and tricks get my money on. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>this one in particular sounded fun, but I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 3>need the fact check, and I also need you to

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<v Speaker 3>explain how it's gonna work. So remember how I was

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<v Speaker 3>telling you that Soldier Boy back when LimeWire existed, came

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<v Speaker 3>to prominence because he would wait until you know, someone

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<v Speaker 3>famous releasing a song, so like Kanye West, Britney Spears,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he would upload his song onto LimeWire, rename

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<v Speaker 3>it to be the same name as the new Kanye

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<v Speaker 3>West song. People would download it and not realize they

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<v Speaker 3>were downloading solo Boy.

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<v Speaker 2>So annoying genius. I love it well.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone said that that show reminded them of this podcast

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<v Speaker 3>they listened to didn't drop the name, or maybe they

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<v Speaker 3>did and I forgot I don't know where. Recently, a

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<v Speaker 3>guy has been renaming his songs on Spotify to common

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<v Speaker 3>phrases you might say on Siri or Alexa or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>so it'll naturally stream his songs when you're asking for something,

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<v Speaker 3>So like he might name his songs can you take

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<v Speaker 3>me home?

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<v Speaker 2>Or can you call Mom?

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<v Speaker 3>And so then maybe Siri gets confused and it's like

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<v Speaker 3>playing can you call Mom now? And then another stream

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<v Speaker 3>and that works well allegedly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>So not that we make music or getting any X

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<v Speaker 3>back from Spotify, but I feel like there must be

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<v Speaker 3>someone out there right now who could definitely capitalize on

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<v Speaker 3>this today.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you can't knock the hustle with that, can you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an amazing hustle.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people are just smarter than other people, and it

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<v Speaker 3>really shows and instances like this, and I just wish

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<v Speaker 3>my brain would work in that way. Some people are

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<v Speaker 3>just like they got the hustle built in them, like

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<v Speaker 3>the quick get rich quick schemes ready to Like like

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<v Speaker 3>this other guy, uh he said he got rich, not rich,

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<v Speaker 3>but he made like a bit of a stack during COVID,

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<v Speaker 3>selling these plastic clippies that you could use to pull

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<v Speaker 3>your key cart out of the ATM so you didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have to touch it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, very niche and also very American.

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<v Speaker 3>But he said he made like six figures, so not

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<v Speaker 3>bad and they were like a dollar or something. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>more get rich quick schemes coming soon. Maybe we'll start

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<v Speaker 3>a pyramid scheme.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the natural procreation of people. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>above it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and froomes.

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<v Speaker 2>FLEXI so I was on the talk and I carame

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<v Speaker 2>across this video you know those ones, which is like

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<v Speaker 2>they're playing Robolocks or something or Minecraft, while a AI

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<v Speaker 2>voice is telling a story from Reddit. Yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's yeah amazing. So this one was, what is a

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<v Speaker 2>really intimate thing you and your partner do that is

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<v Speaker 2>interesting for a relationship that you didn't think would be

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<v Speaker 2>an intimate thing you deal with someone. Then the AI

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<v Speaker 2>voice reads out in an answer from Reddit, and this

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<v Speaker 2>person says, this is a bit funny and silly and

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<v Speaker 2>very intimate. My partner and I had been dating for

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<v Speaker 2>a year and we get back from a night out

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<v Speaker 2>and we both are busting. So we're in the car

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<v Speaker 2>home and saying, oh my god, I'm busting. I'm busting,

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<v Speaker 2>but we both need to y go and pee. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he's like, I had this crazy idea that we

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<v Speaker 2>both pee at the same time. So she sits down

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<v Speaker 2>in the toilet, she stands a bus, she spreads the leg,

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<v Speaker 2>she spreads the leg, and he's peeing in between the

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<v Speaker 2>legs into the toilet. And he said, yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a really intimate moment. It was quite funny, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was a nice mile stren in a relationship. I like people.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I said he, any man don't have the

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<v Speaker 3>best aim at the best of time, So why all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden you have direct aim in this moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine his pea droplets grazing. I mean, I think it's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a funny bit. I like little funny bits,

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<v Speaker 3>but also really horrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you do it if I was dating? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I would do it if it was hot enough. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, have you ever peed on someone in the shower? No,

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<v Speaker 3>but I pee in the shower if I need to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Interesting, I thought I was cute and funny. I

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<v Speaker 2>do it if you're going to get into the shower

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<v Speaker 2>after it's just some little gag ha.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but don't make it a habit. Don't get too

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable because you start fighting around me. It's a chop

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<v Speaker 3>if you go to the bathroom do a number two

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<v Speaker 3>and it starts wafting into chop or the waft. But

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<v Speaker 3>you can't help the waft FLEXI, you can definitely help

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<v Speaker 3>the waft. You help the waft poo drops number one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I don't think that cuts through a hot steam

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<v Speaker 2>of a big It doesn't cut through.

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<v Speaker 3>But but if you time it well enough, just know

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<v Speaker 3>my movements.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't, you need to go let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like sort myself FLEXI. You've not experienced a disgusting

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<v Speaker 2>scent of someone doing a fat log and then using

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<v Speaker 2>the ashot poo poo drops and then I walk in,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm smelling like Pope, like naturally Australian ingredients with sweet shit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's terrifying. Poo drops, abolish poo drops.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it depends because some some I'm using this one

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<v Speaker 3>that's called number two, great brand, great, good brand name,

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<v Speaker 3>but that one does a really good job when you

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<v Speaker 3>put them after, But then you get the other ones

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<v Speaker 3>you put before creates a seal on top, and when

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<v Speaker 3>the poop goes under the water, the seal traps scent.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I never know one of the shit's gonna come.

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<v Speaker 2>I sit down, I start being open. There's still time,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a window.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, disgusting, but sweets disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>More of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Disgusting and sweet. It's a very like hard line to figure.

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<v Speaker 3>But once you find it, like calling someone a pet

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<v Speaker 3>name like bushpeak, it's disgusting and sweet one banshee vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're listening to Flex and Frooms on Kada mis.

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<v Speaker 3>Remina has a theory for us, and I am ready

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<v Speaker 3>to dispute it, but for now I have my listening

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<v Speaker 3>ears on and my seeing eyes open.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we first started doing this radio show, I

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<v Speaker 2>told you a story about how I like to take

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<v Speaker 2>up both arm rest when I'm sitting in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the seat on the plane. I tell that story often.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to have become a defining feature of my personality,

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<v Speaker 2>according to Flex, and honestly, I've not done much to

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<v Speaker 2>dispute it, so I will wear it. But I came

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<v Speaker 2>across this article I think it was in Sydney Morning Harold,

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<v Speaker 2>part of their Traveler offshoot, and it was about how

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<v Speaker 2>this is an opinion piece, flying economy class turns us

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<v Speaker 2>into selfish, angry and clueless people. You know, I don't disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't disagree, and I've said it before.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like nobody has a leg to stand on

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<v Speaker 3>flying economy. So when we come onto the plane, we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about this is my middle seat, these are my

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<v Speaker 3>arm rests. I want this, babes. Fuck you just made

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<v Speaker 3>the cut for this flight. If it was really popping,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd be in the front getting you know, table service.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the back here we're all one and everyone

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<v Speaker 3>needs to do their bit to be an upstanding person.

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<v Speaker 2>If anything, people should turn it on. I guess well,

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<v Speaker 2>essentially they were saying that we're all stuck in the

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<v Speaker 2>fire box. All of the general niceties of gen pop no,

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<v Speaker 2>keep going, keep going, all the general niceties of everyday society.

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<v Speaker 2>Flies out of the window, out of the window, into

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<v Speaker 2>the air. But I also learned that have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>wondered where the flight attendants sleep? No? Do you ever

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<v Speaker 2>think attendants sleep? Yeah? Don't they have a little bunk bed?

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<v Speaker 2>Where is it? Though? Somewhere in the front. The bunk

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<v Speaker 2>beds were above us. So when you're in the air

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<v Speaker 2>and you think, oh my, I'm flying from Europe to Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>this is taking eighteen hours. Where are the flight attendants?

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<v Speaker 2>They're sleeping in bunk beds in ahead of our head.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, or in front of us, but mostly

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<v Speaker 2>above our heads. How cool is that? That is really cool? Secily,

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<v Speaker 2>I say this aord to say we are ban she's

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<v Speaker 2>in the air. It's not just me.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it should be a little psa though, because I

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<v Speaker 3>feel as though something about flying makes me more accommodating

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<v Speaker 3>than I usually would be, and I'm not an accommodating person.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really care so interesting, But something about us

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<v Speaker 3>as being on that space, It's like we have our

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<v Speaker 3>own little community for the next two hours, three hours,

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<v Speaker 3>eight hours, and our experience here is as good as

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of us make it. So you start getting,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, getting antsy with the flight attendant. Now she's

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<v Speaker 3>not nice to me. Okay, you know you leave a

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<v Speaker 3>big hunker chunker in the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's terrible for everyone. Hunker chunker.

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<v Speaker 3>So if we all do our little bit, then we

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<v Speaker 3>get off this scott free. But that being said, if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in the emergency, if I'm in the if if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in the emergency exit row and there is how

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<v Speaker 3>do you say an incident, I'm not helping anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the real one.

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<v Speaker 3>You're the one to be worried about, literally, because I've

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<v Speaker 3>been doing my please and thank you. Do you want

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<v Speaker 3>to grab your your luggage from off the top, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>always doing one of those. Do you know the bathroom

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<v Speaker 3>you just tap me. I'll be napping, all good or good.

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<v Speaker 3>When push comes to shove and there's a bit of turbulence.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care who you are, You'll have to fend

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<v Speaker 3>for yourself. And if the plane crashes and we somehow

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<v Speaker 3>find our way to land, I'm raising everybody's suitcase first thing. Ah.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I'm going a little stash a kilometer, a click

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<v Speaker 3>that way, a little stash for the medicinal items, a

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<v Speaker 3>little snacks like all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I would stay with you if I was

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<v Speaker 2>on a deserted so you should, because I'm serious. Everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get saved. We're gonna get saved.

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<v Speaker 3>I've already I've already started a new colony, and my

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<v Speaker 3>frooms is my VP, who's CFO.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Now I'm the jest because we're living in a

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<v Speaker 2>monarch anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've talked to.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot about my observations on how TikTok is ruining not

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<v Speaker 3>only celebrity culture, but how we relate to celebrities, musicians,

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<v Speaker 3>what we expect from them, how we expect to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>orient ourselves in their spaces, the whole thing. I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>some real kooky stuff from gen Z Okay, I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>them sit down at concerts when the main actor is on.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand, but more recently, there's something about having

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<v Speaker 3>not only your device at festivals, concerts or whatever, but

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<v Speaker 3>being able to publish your content to a broader audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, let's say, back in the days, if I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>at Splendor in the Grass or Falls festival or Lane

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<v Speaker 3>Way and I wanted to see what was happening, I

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<v Speaker 3>just had to hope that my friend was going to

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<v Speaker 3>be there and I could see they're behind the scenes maybe,

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<v Speaker 3>or that the artists.

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<v Speaker 2>Would post, you know, one or two cute little.

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<v Speaker 3>Stories about their experience, or you know, a publication would

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<v Speaker 3>do a little photo gallery of what it was like,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you just kind of have to feel in

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<v Speaker 3>the gaps yourself. Thanks to TikTok, there's no gap filling.

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<v Speaker 3>Every single minutia of every single outdoor event has been

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<v Speaker 3>well documented, especially if it's a big artist.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, when Harry Styles is touring as he's been for

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<v Speaker 3>the last sixteen thousand years, every single day I see

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<v Speaker 3>his outfit, I see him doing the same little you know,

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<v Speaker 3>shimmy on the stage, the same little routine like I

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<v Speaker 3>know he's set by now because everybody, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>who's posting it, but it's any it on my feed

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<v Speaker 3>every single time. More recently, though, Steve Lacey, who.

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<v Speaker 2>Bing bang, I'm saying the bits of his concert. Everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>putting like, oh yeah, yes, yes, context please, He's sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>ing bong.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Lacey.

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<v Speaker 3>You all know him, alternative indie singer. But also he

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<v Speaker 3>was in an R and B band called The Internet.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been touring recently and he has a massed bit

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<v Speaker 3>of extra fame from a few viral songs on TikTok

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<v Speaker 3>so be it now. The thing about him is we

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<v Speaker 3>don't know much about him, you know, And I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like that about celebrities. And thanks to all this

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<v Speaker 3>concert footage coming out, what we're seeing isn't ideal. He's

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of a rager. Didn't see that coming for him.

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<v Speaker 3>There was an incident where a fan wanted to take

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<v Speaker 3>a photo.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's how.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've seen.

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<v Speaker 3>It before, but there are a lot of fans will

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<v Speaker 3>give their phones or their cameras to the artists to

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<v Speaker 3>take a photo from their vantage point. Harry Styles, is

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<v Speaker 3>it all the time? Megan thee Stallion's done it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>quite common. In this instance, there was a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a gap between the barrier and the stage. So a

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<v Speaker 3>fan throws their disposable camera at Steve Lacey kind of

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<v Speaker 3>pegs him in the groin a little bit to the side,

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<v Speaker 3>to the side. Steve Lacy stops his fan, stops his

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<v Speaker 3>DJ and says, stop throwing things on my stage, gets

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<v Speaker 3>pissed off. He walks off. He comes back right now.

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<v Speaker 3>In that instance, people like he overreacted. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if he did already didn't. All I know is that

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<v Speaker 3>like he's upset cool. Another video comes out, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lull in the show some he says, can you say

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<v Speaker 3>hello to my mom? He yells out can you be quiet?

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<v Speaker 2>And then he goes straight into.

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<v Speaker 3>Straight into singing, And it's like, I like knowing that

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<v Speaker 3>celebrities and musicians and famous people are multifaceted, but it

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<v Speaker 3>does nothing for their career, nothing at all. Thames, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're aware, she's featured on Drake's track, She's written music

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<v Speaker 3>for Beyonce. She was featured in a very famous TikTok

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<v Speaker 3>series with this guy does outfits outfits of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>So he asks you, like, hey, you know what are

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<v Speaker 3>you wearing? Where did you get it from? And he

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<v Speaker 3>starts Every video the same way, doesn't matter if he's

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<v Speaker 3>talking a Doge Cat or Solan.

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<v Speaker 2>She says, hey, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 3>And every time the artist says hey, my name is

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<v Speaker 3>Doja Cat, he asks Thames. Tames is someone you probably

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<v Speaker 3>know by voice, not by face as well, right, like

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<v Speaker 3>really famous, but like not that visibly noticeable, not so

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<v Speaker 3>easy to discern.

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<v Speaker 2>What she looks like, He says, hey, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, I mean looking promise and looking good. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think, like, you know, there's something.

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<v Speaker 3>There was something about being able to curate your celebrity

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<v Speaker 3>persona to like such a specific point, and people are

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<v Speaker 3>missing that and they're allowing themselves to be seen too closely.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like it's all gonna backfire because one

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<v Speaker 3>things that fent one thing that fans claim.

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<v Speaker 2>To like but they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's authenticity one hundred percent, and I want your authentic self.

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<v Speaker 3>You're looking grumpy, it's a chop. You're looking ungrateful, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a chop. You look like you want to be somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a chop.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm telling you, I don't know if it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be like a death of celebrity or something, but like

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<v Speaker 3>then it's gonna be some kind of revolution. I know

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<v Speaker 3>what it is, but it's coming and it's coming quick,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm scoorrid for.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, for them. Guillotine vibes, guilt, gillotine, guillotine, guillotine, guillotine.

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<v Speaker 2>When the truit off.

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