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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, you're watching brozien Cons. Welcome back and

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Speaker 3: You see the comments, we see the shares, we see

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Speaker 3: Maliquins have already announced it before. Who we have on

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Speaker 1: We're going to announce it. Yeah. And like most of you,

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Speaker 1: a different area. And this case is a bit interesting

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Speaker 1: because we've got HK hell from a different area, but

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Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know, he actually started

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Speaker 1: in in our area. Crazy story. This is going to

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Speaker 1: Before before we start, I just want to say quick

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Speaker 1: thank you for everyone that's been tuning in. I promise

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Speaker 1: I'm not bludging. I'm always doing work behind the scenes.

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Speaker 4: K a ka fully with it. It's a blessing to

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Speaker 4: and talking about the good news what God has done

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Speaker 1: And it's a blessing. Let's go big thanks to this

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Speaker 1: guy for coming over. Man, it's actually very hard for

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Speaker 3: Even like with just me and Malick trying to you know,

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Speaker 3: about you. Yeah, yeah, let's talk about let's talk about

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Speaker 3: how you got into the the dual music or music

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for that. Well what do you do you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but people are outside of the area. They knew

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Speaker 1: That's what I love about. Like, you know a lot

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Speaker 1: It's actually it was actually never liked that women were

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was almost complicated because you like being from

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Speaker 3: the Inner West, like there was almost you had ties. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, almost every single area. Say, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: Runners through the start, Like what were going through Like

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Speaker 4: B Like because I got done, I got done and

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Speaker 4: to actually double that. I mean, I was always splashing.

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Speaker 4: And then because of that reason, I couldn't get a

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Speaker 4: I couldn't I couldn't like proceed in what I was

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Speaker 4: Like I didn't want I didn't want the fens to

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Speaker 4: know because like, yeah, if they knew, and I would

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Speaker 4: have got slap, like yeah, yeah, hundred per This guy

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Speaker 4: his first offense and he's you know, yeah he's a

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Speaker 1: Man, that's crazy. It's really good you've done that. Because

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Speaker 1: everything and getting smashed and like it was hard for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the thing is a lot of things worked in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just like, oh yeah, and then I

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well crazy. Yeah, it's hard to actually get

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Speaker 1: So so now now you know you Hate was doing

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, many many of them do. Yeah, like young

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Speaker 1: But like that matches yeah exactly, yeah, location, and it's

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Speaker 4: that song. Yeah, it was it was our worst song.

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Speaker 1: It was our song. But what do you think it

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Speaker 4: Everyone was on it, everyone was listening to Drill and that,

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Speaker 4: so it was probably gonna push it out something like yeah,

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Speaker 1: Seven hundred k. Well that's a lot, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But this guy was like to pop off. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy how you stopped that. Now it's one of the.

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Speaker 3: Same with that situation remembre, like we need to get

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Speaker 3: something else to get something out and then but man, anyways,

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Speaker 3: after that song came out, I hated it too.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I was shocked about because our music

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Speaker 1: come to his jail and say, like the screws in jail. Lad.

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Speaker 4: When I was when he was transferring me, I could

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Speaker 4: hear him rapping my song like get away from this

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Speaker 4: guy's gotta get me jumped.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh, after that happened, where were you at in life?

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Speaker 1: Like after you've done jail, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was in and out. I got locked up, So you

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Speaker 1: were going in and out that time. Tell us about

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Speaker 1: your experience around that time when you in jail. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just going in and yeah and in jail.

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Speaker 4: It was absurd that I was like, it's you just

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Speaker 1: No matter.

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Speaker 4: Where you go, lad, because you when I first went in,

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Speaker 4: all the fruits of the spirit was leaving me. Yeah

438
00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like gentleness, kind of love, peace,

439
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 4: all of these things were leaving me, and that became

440
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 4: a bully. And I was looking for trouble, you know,

441
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 4: Like I remember after disconnected from God, and I was

442
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,159
Speaker 4: willingly choosing to you know what I mean, because I

443
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 4: felt like I wasn't worthy. I was like bashing people

444
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,959
Speaker 4: for buyops and that kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah, And

445
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 4: I used to go in line in my bed and

446
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 4: I looked at the ceiling. I was like, man, what

447
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 4: am I becoming?

448
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah, because you know what it's like to

449
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 1: be good, but you're becoming a whole different person, and

450
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 1: so you have to live the jail life pretty much

451
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,200
Speaker 1: stand overs bullying. Were you part of any gangs when

452
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 1: you when you went inside? No?

453
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 4: No, for me, I didn't feel like I needed too.

454
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 4: It's just like I just did my own thing, and

455
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,120
Speaker 4: you know, I didn't feel like the need to look

456
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,959
Speaker 4: for protection and yeah, but you know what I mean,

457
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 4: more just in my own zone.

458
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the best thing.

459
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

460
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 1: What about like being like a I don't think it

461
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 1: doesn't affected me in anyway. But being a former dual

462
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 1: rapper did that affect you? Like knowing that you're going inside,

463
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 1: did you have any any sort of sense of drama

464
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 1: that you feel like you're going to go through?

465
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 4: Or most definitely before stepping into every time I was

466
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 4: going into a new wing, I just knew I was like, man,

467
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 4: anyone and it could be just anyone that I might

468
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 4: not even know you have dramas with me because it's

469
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 4: like always preparing on just everything when you get into

470
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 4: the gates. Yeah, you can see everyone and the better

471
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 4: let you in. It's like and everyone just bound run

472
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 4: into someone. It's just that that anxious thought. But you're

473
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 4: ready for it, you know, And I do not miss

474
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 4: that having that anxious thoughts.

475
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you go into new wings and yeah, sometimes

476
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: where you go to they ask you if you've been

477
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: part of a rap group or anything. Have they ever asked?

478
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 1: You know?

479
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 4: Some people will recognize me by face, you know what

480
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 4: I mean. They're seeing like, oh, your hka and if.

481
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: It's on, it's on. But yeah, most of the time,

482
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: don't do anything. People know you, but you don't know anyone.

483
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 4: I never said that makes of time was good? So yeah,

484
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 4: it was all right for me.

485
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 1: What goes through when you got out? So what was

486
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: life like when you got out? You've just been released.

487
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: You've been a jail bird. You know what it suck

488
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: to be proper jail birds? Stand overs everything, and then

489
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: you're living on the outside. Did a lot of people

490
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: get institutionalized just from that little time like sinking into

491
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: jail and being that top of jail person to survive.

492
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 1: A lot of people stay locked that when they.

493
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 4: No, I was for me, it was I was all right, lad, yeah,

494
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 4: came back else were the same person, like still did

495
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 4: the things the same as I used to back in

496
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 4: the days, just running amuck and my cousins and that

497
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 4: and yeah, man, at that time was like it was hard,

498
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 4: but depending on which time that I got out, Like

499
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, because the first time I

500
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 4: got out was it was different to the last time

501
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 4: I got out.

502
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: Last time is sort of the same, but the first

503
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: time is the here. Yeah. The first time was like

504
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: it was like.

505
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 4: Because I was still young at that time, lad, what

506
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 4: it was something like the jail yeah around that's men.

507
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 4: I had that kind of you know what I mean,

508
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 4: like kind of boasted in that kind of thing, like bro,

509
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 4: like no I'm gangstar, lad, Yeah, I've been in.

510
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: Jail now too. No one can saying.

511
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 4: Like no, no, no, I'm really in the streets yeah

512
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 4: childish bro, Yeah exactly.

513
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: And they want to get hit with like you're looking

514
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: at you're not like in the court, I was like

515
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: please please to say yeah, And they always like when

516
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: you're in court, they always tell you the worst case

517
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: scenarios to the most that you can get, so they

518
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: never go before you looking at they say you're getting

519
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 1: like you're looking at three years and they're just going

520
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: off the worst of that chart, so they will say

521
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: twenty five years or fifteen, I should have listened to

522
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: my parents because jail was just fucking ship place. But

523
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: its ship places to be even for jail birds. You

524
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: can't make money, you can't do nothing. Ain't it for real?

525
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 4: Better you stay out, like especially all the youth that

526
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 4: are watching, Bro, it's not worth it.

527
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: That not worth it.

528
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 4: Like a lot of your close friends that you think

529
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 4: are like tight with you, lad, the majority of them,

530
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 4: will they even come see you or put money in

531
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 4: your account?

532
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: Lad? Yeah?

533
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 4: Things, Bro, When you don't have money in your accounts

534
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 4: the worst, lad.

535
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: That's when. Yeah. And a lot of our people that's

536
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: how we get into stand up, isn't that because we're

537
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: not getting eating. Yeah, well, we're just trying to ask

538
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: our families. So we're like, fuck it, We'll just going

539
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: to stand there for this guy over year. And it

540
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: happens to a lot of our people because just because

541
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: we're just trying to ask for money. And man, you're

542
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 1: better off not e been going in there by just

543
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: looking after your family, but look after them, poppy. There's

544
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: a lot of money to be made. I remember my

545
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: last legging, not my last legging, actually my first lagging

546
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: before I got out. I got to go and work release.

547
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: So for three months I had work release and I

548
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: was we were going outside and working, and Bro, I

549
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: was stocking up on money and I'm only only making

550
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: eight hundred a week, and I was like, fuck, I

551
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: should have just been happy with the twelve hundred dollars job.

552
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 1: I mean twelve hundred a week, you know. Yeah. And

553
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: I was actually stucking up because there's nothing to buy,

554
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: you know. I was just going down and eating. I'm

555
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: going back to work, but I was stucking up and

556
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: need some money. And I was like, but I should

557
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: have just worked a lot with job, you know what

558
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: I mean.

559
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: It's crazy how Jay can make you look at life

560
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: in a different perspective, make make you value like food

561
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: and just money and everything in general.

562
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: He sees it.

563
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 3: You just see everything differently, Bro, Like the way I

564
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: seen sugar when I came out, the fuck real sugar

565
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 3: honey all this, yeah, the sugar A branded is the

566
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 3: red and blue pan Yeah, the little bad yeah sweetness,

567
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 3: little sweetness. But that's that's all you get drinking your coffee,

568
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 3: but ugly.

569
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: I used to do, and I was getting transported.

570
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 4: I was so happy just looking outside the little Yeah

571
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 4: have you seen in the seat because you can see

572
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 4: the outside.

573
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 1: Just I was so happy, just yeah, yeah, you're just

574
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: looking like you're seeing trees. And why are you trying

575
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: to look at the top.

576
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 4: Your body's in his mess. You're doing like a nine

577
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 4: hour troop land. They give you a musually buying the water.

578
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: But most of those trucks were always built in these

579
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 3: strong as a C system, so you knew you had

580
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: to wear three or four jumpers, but before you hopped in,

581
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: because if you didn't allow, you're in for the worst. Yeah,

582
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: sitting in there and they're just blasting us. Doesn't matter

583
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 3: if you're knocking on the doors, turn it down. But

584
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: I don't care, even even in the wagons.

585
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah so cold. Yeah, brother, Because I've been in like

586
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: probably five times now, and I think the worst experience

587
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: that I have is, you know, when you go to

588
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: DO you usually go to Silper Water. When you first

589
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: got to super Water and you're sitting in that waiting

590
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: room and the boys are asking the sweep before coffee.

591
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: I think that's probably my ugly experience man. As soon

592
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: as you get in that little room, the boys saying, sweep,

593
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: give us a coffee. So you go from everything on

594
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: the outshold like taking stuff whatever you want, and then

595
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that is when it hits you.

596
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: When you and you're like, but I have to start

597
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: begging people for coffee. That's on hitting you. You're like

598
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: fucking jail. You're trying to find the best pack when

599
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: they come out with the geeler. Yeah, you're asking for

600
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: seconds coming out. You've for people that don't know this

601
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: guy actually changed his life, changes his life around. And

602
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: now not only has he changed his life, he's going

603
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: out reaching out to other people trying to trying to

604
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: help him. I've used to watch a lot of testimonies

605
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: on YouTube, and I've noticed a lot of people go

606
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: through a phase that like really really is really dark

607
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: for them stage where like it really makes his turn

608
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: to any stage like that that you went through that.

609
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, most definitely, bro did You're not the thing

610
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 4: is for men. I feel like we have to go

611
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: through it because when it comes to the gospel, we

612
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 4: don't need the gospel until.

613
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: We need it, you know what I mean?

614
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, until you come to that point where you feel like.

615
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: Bro, I need it.

616
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 4: Like you're going through so much desperation and nothing's working well.

617
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 4: And now you know, when you have that realization you

618
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 4: need a savior, that's the only time you're looking to

619
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 4: Exactly if we don't, if we don't think like you

620
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 4: need a savior, you're not gonna look to Jesus Christ. Yeah,

621
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 4: because it says that he's our Lord and savior. Bro,

622
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 4: how can how can you look to a savior when

623
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 4: you don't need saving? Yeah, So it took me. Everyone's

624
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 4: bound to have a go through that stage, especially for men,

625
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 4: because we're so prideful and we think we have it

626
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 4: all together, but we don't, you know what I mean.

627
00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 4: But for me, it was like, Bro, like my relationships,

628
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 4: I will talk on relationships like with family, friends and

629
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 4: all of these things. That current time, I remember I

630
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 4: was a bit a bit dirty my family, like manage

631
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 4: my mom. Bro. Like it was like the last time

632
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 4: I went inside, she never visited me once, you know

633
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 4: what I mean? And heartbreaking that, you know, heartbreaking for

634
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: me and a lot of a lot of them family.

635
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: Didn't visit me.

636
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 4: Like shout out to my brother SPARTI and my cousins Fiona,

637
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 4: Atlanta and Faith they came to visit, but like, yeah,

638
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 4: that and then like a lot of like my siblings,

639
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 4: I don't really talk to them, you know what I mean.

640
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: We have much of a strong relationship with my siblings,

641
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 4: also with the friends, and the friends actually like ended

642
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 4: up being close with Like I had a lot of

643
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 4: drama with them too, you know what I mean.

644
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: So I think I've seen it in the comments, but

645
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: people were topping up in the comments on the video.

646
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: You're having dramas if there was it your mates that

647
00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: you was.

648
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 4: There used to be with these guys. Actually, like we'll

649
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 4: get way back, but you know, like things happened. Things happened,

650
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 4: you know, more war like humans.

651
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: Like everyone he goes for that.

652
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're fallible, lad, We'll bound to do something wrong.

653
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 4: So yeah, I ended up having drama in the in

654
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 4: house drama. So with that, it's just like like my mom,

655
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 4: no good with my family, Like no good relationship my

656
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 4: their friends became close with no relationship. The last relationship

657
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 4: that I had that was actually going on all right

658
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 4: was was my missus at that time, my ex. And

659
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 4: the thing is like I was so lost. I was

660
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 4: on drugs every week I was on. I was drunk

661
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 4: every week and I've seen no purpose for my life

662
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 4: at that time, but just like riding out and stuff

663
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: and and doing all that kind of stuff, like all

664
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 4: that street stuff and yeah, this one time I got drunk,

665
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 4: ads like, and I kid you not. I woke up

666
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 4: next to another woman and I woke up. I legit

667
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 4: woke up. I look next to me. I just see

668
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 4: some random chick, lad, And I look up and my

669
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 4: my ex was in the room as well. Why heid

670
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 4: you not? She throwing stuff at me, and I'm like,

671
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 4: what do you want? But I was like, what do

672
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 4: I'm dreaming? And went back to sleep.

673
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 1: I woke up.

674
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 4: She's gone and the other one's still there, and I

675
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 4: was heartbroken.

676
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: I was like, Bro, what's wrong with you? Yeah?

677
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 4: The last thing in your life that's that you're holding

678
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 4: onto the stuff?

679
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. I was like Brian.

680
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: And when I come to that realization, Lad, I was like, man,

681
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: this is this can't be real.

682
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: This can't be real. This can't be real.

683
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: When they picked up the bottle called the boys was

684
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 4: on the drugs, on the coke and that everything bro

685
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: as much as I could and went three four days

686
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: on a bender light and I was running away from this.

687
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: I was like, this can't be real. Well yeah, when

688
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 4: those three four days on that bender and eventually it

689
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 4: ran out of money, ran out of drugs, ran out

690
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 4: of alcohol, and when that time where you know, you know,

691
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 4: when you when you finish a night out and then

692
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 4: you start to sober up in bed and then you

693
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 4: get anxious.

694
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, come down, come down, Lad.

695
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 4: So when I hit that come down at home and

696
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 4: I had nothing left, had the money, nothing that and

697
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 4: I come to the realization where that's real. That happened,

698
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 4: and now I got no relationships you know what I mean,

699
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 4: no relationship whatsoever in my life, Lad. And then I

700
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 4: remember crying. I was like I got no one.

701
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I cried I.

702
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 4: Quite hard, out loud, and I was like, man, what

703
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 4: do I got to live for?

704
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: Lad?

705
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 4: And I went to the kitchen, grabbed the knife. LAD

706
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 4: went into my room. I was like everything that I

707
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 4: that I wanted, like none, none of it pulled through

708
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 4: for me. Yeah, And I was like, no, it's my time. Bro.

709
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 4: I was weeping, like I was crying loud as and

710
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: in that moment, the one relationship that I looked away

711
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 4: from them, those those six years. Because in my wrap

712
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 4: now one of the new songs that's going to come

713
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 4: out in my rap, I said, I lost six years

714
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 4: and then I didn't go in jail for six years.

715
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: When I mean six years, I meant six years of

716
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 4: serving God. Yeah, I mean I lost six years to

717
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 4: the devil because I fell into temptation. The devil held me,

718
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 4: held me away from fully working, walking in my purposes.

719
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: Ye came down.

720
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, So when that time came, the Lord revealed himself

721
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: to me and the fear of the Lord hit my

722
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 4: heart and I was crying, and the Lord's like, yeah,

723
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 4: forgotten who I am? I weep loud ass and then

724
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: my face went head down loud, like Lord, please forgive me,

725
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 4: have mercy upon me, for I forsaken you, but you

726
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 4: have never forsaken me. And the Lord reached out his

727
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: hand for me, and he's like, come back to me,

728
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And from that very moment,

729
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 4: from wanting to dieala, I wanted to live, you know

730
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 4: what I mean. And now that one relationship is my

731
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 4: my my only relationship that I care about like so much,

732
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 4: that relationship I put above everything, you know what I mean.

733
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 4: In the Bible says, if you love your mother, your sister,

734
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: your brother, your father more.

735
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: Than me, you're unworthy of me.

736
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: Ever since then, I've seen the importance of God.

737
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: I was like, Bro, now.

738
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: Now I'm going to walk with you. Now I'm going

739
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 4: to walk with you. And it led me to fasting

740
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 4: for three days straight, and I was I was so

741
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 4: scared of the anxiety that I felt right before that,

742
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like having nothing to go

743
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 4: going for me and I want to kill myself. So

744
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 4: I read the Bibles three days straight, like kid, you

745
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 4: not like on the fast? Fasted three days straight NonStop,

746
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 4: like noa, yeah, no, no. I was just re read read.

747
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

748
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 4: I don't know what to set my eyes upon anything

749
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 4: else because I don't want any outside things to come

750
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 4: and corrupt me.

751
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: Bro.

752
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 4: I was like, Lord, please shelter me in your arms

753
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 4: because I don't want to go back into that mind state.

754
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 4: And I kept looking for the Bibles three days straight

755
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 4: in the Lord.

756
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: After my first was.

757
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 4: Finished those three days, the Lord led me by his

758
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 4: spirit and I was to go to this church and

759
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 4: the shout out to the My brother Peter Tevanga man

760
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 4: Uh linked up with him. The Lord told me to

761
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 4: hit him up and then go on from there. Then

762
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 4: ended up getting baptized and blessing.

763
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: Bro crazy man, crazy fast and for three days. Yeah,

764
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: but how can you can you walk us through? Like?

765
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: What is that? For those of you who don't, like,

766
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: can you walk us for the importance or fasting?

767
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 4: Fasting is so important for a believer, you know what

768
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 4: I mean. There's so many things in the Bible, like,

769
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 4: for one, it says like, if you have a faith

770
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 4: of a mustard seed, you can tell this mountain to

771
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 4: get up and go into the water and it will

772
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 4: be done. But the first under it, where a lot

773
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 4: of Bible translations that take it out, is like this

774
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 4: kind of act does not happen unless you pray and fast,

775
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 4: because the fast thing is the denial of your flesh,

776
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 4: giving your flesh the things that it needs.

777
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

778
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: The whole battle between for a believer is the battle

779
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 4: with the spirit and the flesh. They wrestle each and

780
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 4: every day of our lives. And it's whatever you give

781
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 4: into more is what you feed more, you know what

782
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 4: I mean. The more you stay in bed, the more

783
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 4: you feed the flesh, because the flesh doesn't want to

784
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 4: get out of bed, things like that. The flesh does

785
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: not want to read the Bible, you know what I mean.

786
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 4: So you're coming going into that, Lad, there's what you

787
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 4: call it the battle of the flesh that to kind

788
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: of like overcome that, Lad, Yes, that's mad. But what

789
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 4: was I tapping onto before? That kind of got too

790
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 4: into the other big.

791
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: Faster and then you wait to the church, you know, the.

792
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: Fasting that the importance of fasting, bro. Yeah, so because

793
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 4: we go into the spirit battles against the flesh. When

794
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 4: you fast, Lad, you're starving your flesh exactly, so you'll

795
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 4: say no, like yeah, not giving it what it wants.

796
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 4: So it's easier for you to tap into your spirit

797
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 4: and do the things that like like a challenge used

798
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 4: to go on the fast, Lad, And you watch how

799
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 4: different it is when you you see the importance of reading.

800
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 4: Because the thing is, when you are going a fast,

801
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 4: you're not relying on your physical self anymore because you

802
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 4: don't have food, can't do things that you know what

803
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: would be able to do because you have the energy

804
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 4: you see God and everything. Lord, please give me strength

805
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 4: to go work today. Lord, Please give me strength to

806
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 4: seek You today. Things like that.

807
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: What's some of advice you could give to me if

808
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: I did go on the fast. I remember last time

809
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: I first, I think it was the second day, or

810
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: standing this kid out of people like easy like my missus,

811
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: boys around me. What would that be if you have

812
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 1: any advice for like moments like that where you're actually

813
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: your fless is like standing there to grab hold of you.

814
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: I say that it's the one of It's like an

815
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 4: identifying thing, like now you've identified your one of your

816
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 4: your your troubles, one of your battles between sin, I

817
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 4: mean probably your anger. Yeah, showing you this is what

818
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: you're you're you need to cast away from you to

819
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 4: work on. So like me, but a lot of times

820
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 4: when I was fasting, but as fasting, lad, the lust

821
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 4: will hit me, Lad, hit me hard.

822
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: Man.

823
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 4: The one thing is like lust is very present in

824
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 4: every man. If you if you do not battle last

825
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 4: and you're a man, you're lying, bro.

826
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like yeah everything know what I mean? Yeah?

827
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 4: So yeah, man, every time I will start fasting the

828
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 4: last Yeah, identify things to me like this is what you.

829
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: Need to work on. He's gonna eat from hate, gay busting. Yeah,

830
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: but you need to be praying and at the same

831
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: time pray. It's not like people see fasting as are like, oh,

832
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: like's like a diet thing, like use weight land, I

833
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: want to start fasting. Yeah, there's nothing powerful about that.

834
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: When you fast to seek the Lord. Different story. Yeah,

835
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: you feel the power of the Holy Spirit. Man, And

836
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: it's so important bro. The Yeah you have to fast, man,

837
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: that's probably why. But I probably need to read scripture

838
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: and that and pray because I remember at the time

839
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: when I was fast and I was trying to She's

840
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: trying to detox from Joe's Yeah, I wanted to fast

841
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: for God as well, but I was more concerned about

842
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: detoxing from the worldly things and last like he was

843
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: saying nothing like that. Back then, I wasn't reading because

844
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: I skissing. Now fast. I was getting angry quick and

845
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: I was like, but I'm not doing anything. It's going

846
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: to go right down in bed, so I sleep. But

847
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: when you're fast and you can't.

848
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: Sleep, you're fast fast and you're seeking God, so you

849
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 4: seek him in prayer and and reading his word, bro.

850
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 4: So like, just look to God and everything every battle

851
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 4: you come across. It says, do not be anxious about anything.

852
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 4: But in everything, prayer and supplication.

853
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: Bro.

854
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 4: So you're going through times where you're breaking out in anger,

855
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 4: pray the Lord Lord, please help me strength to overcome this,

856
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. They act in a righteous

857
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: way and not in an unrighteous way, you know what

858
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 4: I mean.

859
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: So it's good. I think.

860
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: I think most of the audience out there, you know,

861
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: they really need to tap into these these things. I

862
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: don't think no one really talks about the fasting phases.

863
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 3: You know, as a believer, everyone talks about Jesus and YadA, YadA, YadA,

864
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: but there's actually more that goes into it.

865
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: So it's fasting is just one of them. You know.

866
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: As a believer, fast thing is it's very what do

867
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: you call it? Do you think it's it's necessary, like

868
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: we have to do it?

869
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, I reckon it says it in the

870
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: Bible is all like h K was saying, and it

871
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 3: gets it gets flown over a lot of people's heads,

872
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: even a lot of believers. You know, sometimes even sometimes

873
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: believers sometimes think that they don't need a fast, but

874
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 3: fast thing is definitely part of the believer. It's it's

875
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: definitely something that does feed the Holy Spirit. As well, yeah,

876
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: just fighting that that flesh, you know, fighting the worldly things.

877
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 3: That's that's some real crazy stuff.

878
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 4: Man and man in the in the in the Bible,

879
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 4: the Pharisees were were pointing at the disciples and the

880
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 4: disciples of Jesus Christ, and he was like, they were like,

881
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 4: what why why don't your disciples fast? And Jesus is like,

882
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 4: they don't fast because I'm present, you know what I mean.

883
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 4: And then when I go, then they will continue to fast. Yeah,

884
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 4: that I need to fast because the Lord is with them,

885
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

886
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: So when he's powerful, them tapping back into the Holy

887
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: Spirit fasting and oh he actually went deep into your

888
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: life stuff that I never knew about you. That's crazy.

889
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: And I actually from the house up, I actually thought

890
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: you and your family was like similar to us, like

891
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: very close. So you went for a phase where you

892
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: weren't close to them.

893
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 4: I wasn't really close to them, like like through my

894
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 4: whole well, I was tired with my cousins. But my

895
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 4: cousin's a different story, you know. But yeah, me and

896
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 4: my cousin was all my cousins. Yeah, all my cousins

897
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: was type with but the siblings more like look at

898
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 4: me like, yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, at

899
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 4: the younger ones. Yeah, I copt that my whole life

900
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 4: pretty much.

901
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: And you had a partner back then and she was

902
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: pretty much what you're holding onto back then. Once you

903
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: got rid of that, so that's when you started chasing

904
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: the Lord. Yeah. Yeah, And did you end up finding

905
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: another part? Nah? Nah.

906
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 4: Right now it's like trying to discern what's from the

907
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 4: Lord and what isn't. And right now it's like I'm

908
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 4: just focusing on God's will for my life. And you know,

909
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 4: the desire to get married and things is ever so present,

910
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 4: like it's always going to be present with me. But

911
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 4: it's more finding the right one and finding the right helper.

912
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 4: Because he says in the Bible that the men are

913
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: the leaders, bro, then the women are the helpers. So

914
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: when I go into ministries, when I go and do

915
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: things for the Lord, what is my woman doing for me?

916
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

917
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 4: For she has to submit to me, and I submit

918
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 4: to Jesus Christ in this Unify come one in Christ.

919
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: Lad.

920
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 4: So I want to lead the relationship, but she got

921
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 4: to help me too, and we bounce off each other.

922
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: Lad.

923
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, if it's not if I'm going if I have

924
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 4: a wife and she doesn't help me, Lad, I'm going

925
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 4: to struggle in ministries. I want to struggle upholding the

926
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 4: things of the Lord, you know.

927
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: Because that's like our weakness if you can't help us

928
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: in Yeah, have your other half.

929
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: What most people say better half, it's they have they

930
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 3: have to have your we're talking, they have to have

931
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: your back back saying no matter what you're going through

932
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: in life, because they're going to be there. But when

933
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: you're hitting rock bottom and when you feel like you

934
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: know the world's against you, I feel like, man, yeah,

935
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 3: your partner plays a massive role.

936
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember when I when I when I was

937
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: seeing you at the house, but you had a partner

938
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: there saying oh yeah, yeah that was the one that

939
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: was the one.

940
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 4: I hope she's doing well man, yeah, because like the

941
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 4: thing is like what I showed because she knew I

942
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: was Christian, but the way I walked, Lad was nothing

943
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 4: like a Christian bro.

944
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

945
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 4: I mean like her only understanding of Christianity was through me,

946
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 4: and I was a fraud at that time, luke warm

947
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 4: halfway step by lie, you know what I mean. So

948
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 4: like for me, it was like it does bother me

949
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 4: a lot when I think about it, because the last

950
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 4: thing I want to do is lead someone away from

951
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 4: the Lord. And you know, if she does go away

952
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 4: from the Lord, I feel like it's my I didn't

953
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 4: uphold and show her what Jesus, Jesus Christ is really

954
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 4: about that, you know what I mean? But God, God

955
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 4: bless her. I hope, I hope one day she should

956
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 4: be able to find the Lord.

957
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: What do you think you look for a man to do?

958
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: What do you think is the best thing for a

959
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: man to do that's in that situation, Like say, like

960
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: say you had a partla and she knew that you

961
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: were Christian, but everything that she's seen in you was

962
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: not was far away from Christian? Is it best for

963
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: a man to just walk away and even as that

964
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: and like you know, look look to the future and

965
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: just changes.

966
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 4: I mean, you should depart from it, especially if she's

967
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 4: not a believer. Yeah, we shouldn't be unequally yoked.

968
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: The thing is, if you.

969
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 4: Like, if it's the more time you spend there, you're

970
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 4: gonna be unfruitful. Yeah, nothing good is going to come

971
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 4: out of you just go to like keep going back

972
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 4: to her and stuff like that. The least you can

973
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 4: do is pray, man, just pray for her, God willing

974
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 4: she will have an encounter that because you know, like

975
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 4: she was my weakness to lad you know what I mean,

976
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 4: lust is ever so present in so as much as

977
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 4: even when back in the days and I try to

978
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 4: tell her we've got to stop doing this, got to

979
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 4: stop doing that. Couldn't help myself that, you know, especially

980
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 4: because she's she wasn't a believer too, so it was

981
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:32,959
Speaker 4: kind of hard.

982
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So we noticed that you're out there preaching,

983
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: spreading the word. Come on, it's like a Churst say

984
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: with yeah, yeah, I'll get the revelations Western Sydney. Yeah,

985
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: it's blessing, bro. But like I've been out there ministering,

986
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: preaching with different churches as well. For us, we see

987
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: the unity like in Christ, I'm able to go and

988
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: preach with the other churches stuff like that, and just

989
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: you know, withhold, like see the brothers outside of church

990
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: as well, brothers and sisters outside the church, like not

991
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: limited to a building, you know what I mean.

992
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's mad universal, like universal.

993
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: We're back to you guys doing all of this stuff.

994
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 4: So like sometimes city sometimes a majority of the time

995
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: like now, so now we're we're based in Blacktown with

996
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 4: my church. My church has an evangelistic ministries. Now, yeah,

997
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 4: so we we're based in Blacktown because our church is

998
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 4: in black Town. So when we street preach, when we

999
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 4: are telling everyone about Jesus Christ, telling him the gospel,

1000
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 4: we want to give him a place to plant their

1001
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 4: feet that not just like, oh, come, I'll pray for

1002
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 4: you and then just go your way. Because when I

1003
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,479
Speaker 4: was out street preaching in the city, it was hard

1004
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 4: because I was like, these people would want to give

1005
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 4: their life to Christ, and I've got no foundations for them,

1006
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 4: Like where I was, where are these guys supposed to

1007
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 4: get planted? Who's going to help guide these people when

1008
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 4: when what you call it our church is like on

1009
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 4: the other side of Sydney. Yeah, I mean, so that's

1010
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 4: what made it tough. And then through strategic things we

1011
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 4: with our church shout out to the brother Ken They've

1012
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 4: come up with just doing it in the in the

1013
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: in the local so those everyone would preached to there

1014
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 4: there from there, yeah, and we're just around the corner. Yeah,

1015
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 4: we got somewhere for them to learn, somewhere for them

1016
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 4: to grow in spirit, somewhere for them.

1017
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: To to get to know Christ. So yeah, yeah, man,

1018
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: that's mad. That's mad.

1019
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: And were you guys just spreading gospel? Were singing as well?

1020
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: Was there any like other things you were doing?

1021
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1022
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, preached the gospel, testifying man who sings songs.

1023
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: You know, Like, do you guys go out to like

1024
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: in black Town? Do you ever reach out to randoms

1025
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: that are walking past? Yeah? I understand because that's mad.

1026
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: We see when I was young, the days walk past,

1027
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: there's those people they're like preaching.

1028
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, but back back in the day, just shoot and

1029
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: put my head down. Yeah, don't talk to me.

1030
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: Alone, because it's usually island when they see island and

1031
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: they're like, it's kidding me. But I'll tell you funny,

1032
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, Jay walked past one still was

1033
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: the preachers outside black Town, and bro, I'm in all

1034
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: black days and all black we're back to get the

1035
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: door job and we're walking past. And then I look

1036
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: at them, and I noticed they looked at us. I

1037
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: start looking away. I'm walking and walking. I turned around

1038
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: and Days already stuck with them. And then and they

1039
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: they got their hands and so I walked back. Man,

1040
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: I haven't asked date this year. But they start praying

1041
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: on Jaya and Uh and then they were like, can

1042
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 1: I pray for you too?

1043
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 4: Mother?

1044
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: They're asking me. I'm like, yeah, they're praying for both

1045
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: of us. We're standing side by side. All of a sudden,

1046
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: I looked at the left and Jay's falling on the

1047
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: ground and he's got down to the ground and he's

1048
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: shaking j Jo Bruce Willis bro. I didn't know. I

1049
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: didn't know what to think. I was like, Bro, what

1050
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: the holl these guys just got hit for the Holy Spirit.

1051
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: I'm still standing, so I'm sort of getting embarrassed. I

1052
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: was like, but they must become a devil because I'm

1053
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: not dropping. And I started mini slowly. I go to four.

1054
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: I got to four and just go fake and I

1055
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: was like sorry, but I got to the Garden's plan.

1056
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: I was like, sorry, but I'm just nothing that like stags,

1057
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 1: you know, like, and they're really praying for j looks holy,

1058
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: but you know, j looks like he just got encntered

1059
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: with the Holy Spirit. And then we're walking off from

1060
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: Jay was like, ticket, did you actually get the Holy Spirit?

1061
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: And It's like, I don't know about ye. Yeah, I

1062
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: got chipping out I still have an asking about that.

1063
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a experience.

1064
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 4: But the thing is, like, it's a posture of your heart, lad, Yeah,

1065
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Right there, you're battling it already, Lad. Yeah,

1066
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 4: your heart wasn't open to receiving it. There's no reason

1067
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,959
Speaker 4: for you to be like, yes, Lord, come into my heart.

1068
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 4: It's open for you, you know what I mean. In the

1069
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 4: Bible says when Jesus, Jesus says those with ease let

1070
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 4: him here, you know what I mean. Obviously everyone's got ease,

1071
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 4: you know I mean. But later on, yeah, later on

1072
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 4: in the in in that verse, through those passages, it

1073
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 4: says that only those are those with a hard to understand,

1074
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, because those they did not

1075
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 4: hear those your eyes, they did not see. Yeah, the

1076
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 4: person with a heart to understand will he you know

1077
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 4: what I mean.

1078
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, he's some advice if you guys,

1079
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 1: if you got me one of the boys, re open

1080
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: your heart, like.

1081
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 4: Come down, like receive the Holy spirit.

1082
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: But I come making music is well?

1083
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 4: But ye, bank God tell us about that, blessed blessing man.

1084
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Speaker 4: The thing is, I was skeptical about it, you know

1085
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 4: what I mean, yeah, when I first heard about people

1086
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 4: doing that, I.

1087
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: Was in I was in the world, was like, what

1088
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: is this? You know what I mean?

1089
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 4: Now come into Christ. It's just like the drill scene.

1090
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 4: The worldly music has a grasp on the youth, bro,

1091
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 4: and they yeah, so that there's no way the worship music,

1092
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 4: the worship music is going to reach them. It's not

1093
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: going to reach them.

1094
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: These guys are not going to get out of their

1095
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: way to.

1096
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 4: Listen to the Holy They're they're not gonna go look

1097
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 4: for stuff. They're looking for that bat and they're looking

1098
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 4: for the drums and everything. So like when I come

1099
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 4: to understand that, you know, Apostle port talks about that

1100
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 4: he's become all things unto men that he may be

1101
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 4: able to minister to them. To the week has become weak,

1102
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 4: the strong has become strong. So us will become in

1103
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 4: a like manner that we may be able to reach

1104
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 4: the young expro But the thing is not we're not

1105
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 4: conforming to those patterns. The thing is we're ministering through

1106
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 4: the world.

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Speaker 1: Lad.

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Speaker 4: If you listen to our lyrics, Lad, we'll preach in

1109
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 4: the gospel.

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00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: Bro.

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00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 4: It's a blessing because there's a lot of testimonies where

1112
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 4: I come around the brothers at church or some people

1113
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 4: and they're young and their kids and every thing. They

1114
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 4: love our songs, yea, and they're speaking our songs. They're

1115
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 4: singing our songs, they're shouting our songs. But what we're

1116
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 4: saying there is like the gospel of Jesus Christ and

1117
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 4: Jesus Name. This is what we're declaring in the songs.

1118
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 4: One of these kids are out there, they're screaming and

1119
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 4: declaring that God is good and all of these other things,

1120
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's such a blessing to

1121
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 4: see the Lord work through music.

1122
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, at first I didn't think it was right, but

1124
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 4: then the Holy Spirit came upon me. Then the Lord

1125
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 4: said to me, you were so open the door in

1126
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 4: the world, why can't you do it for me? And

1127
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 4: I was like, Lord, you will be done. And when

1128
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 4: it did the first song, you know what.

1129
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: I mean I heard, it's like I was like, I

1130
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: feel like I've got a days of view because we've

1131
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: never seen you rap since the first one. So it

1132
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: was a man, it was like a prep for fresh said,

1133
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: this guy is rapping by like this total gospel, you know,

1134
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: but you can still hear the bars and everything in

1135
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: there and let their flow. If it's for Jesus lad,

1136
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: now I'm with it, like fully with it. Just in

1137
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: cases it's like rappers now that's still listening, or people

1138
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: that are still part of the streets. Do you have

1139
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: any advice for them? There are like any advice you

1140
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: could give to them to lean.

1141
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: On, even just their young'uns there as well, probably going

1142
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: through like some of the same stuff or the same

1143
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 3: stage as that you must have went through. What's something

1144
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 3: that you can give them?

1145
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 4: One thing is like I know what they struggle with.

1146
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 4: A lot of the things that go through. We've been

1147
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 4: through that, like identity, like purpose. They find purpose in

1148
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 4: the brotherhood. They find identity on the streets, like this

1149
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 4: is what they think they are. But the thing is

1150
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 4: the Lord offers so much more. The God who created everything,

1151
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 4: the God who created everything into being, hes spoke into

1152
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 4: existence the whole world. This is the God who calls

1153
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 4: him out of what they're doing. And this is the

1154
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 4: God that's going to give him a plan, a plan

1155
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 4: to prosper and not to be dismayed, not to be destroyed.

1156
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 4: And you know, like one thing I'd say to them

1157
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,479
Speaker 4: is I think Mark eight thirty six. You know, cut

1158
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 4: that out.

1159
00:53:59,000 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: If I got it wrong.

1160
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 4: But it says what Charlotte profit a man if he

1161
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 4: was to gain the world but lose his soul. You

1162
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 4: know what I mean, All the young men, all of

1163
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 4: the things that you're chasing for, is not going the last, Bro. Like,

1164
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 4: I've had many things in the grasp of my hands,

1165
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 4: the things that I've always wanted, Lad, like women, drugs, money,

1166
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 4: this kind of thing, fame, you know what I mean.

1167
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 4: I've had this on the tip of my fingers, Lad,

1168
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 4: and I was still depressed. None of it could have

1169
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 4: filled that void in my heart.

1170
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: Man.

1171
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 4: And it was only Jesus Christ. And that's man. He's

1172
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 4: the only way, Lad, He's the truth in the life.

1173
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: Man. There's no other way to go about it. Man.

1174
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 4: And if you want to find your true identity, Bro,

1175
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 4: seek Jesus Christ, Man, and.

1176
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: He will bless you. Man.

1177
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 4: He will not push you away. He says, come as

1178
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 4: you are. You know what I mean. When I came

1179
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 4: before the Lord, but I was broken. I was a

1180
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 4: wretched man, Lad, living in sin, sexual, immorality, all of

1181
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 4: these things I lived in and I was something so dirty, Bro.

1182
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 4: But the Lord says, come as you are. And the

1183
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 4: Lord allowed the Lord in my heart and he restored me,

1184
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 4: He renewed me through the Holy spiritl And I was like,

1185
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 4: man for us, it was like, we look to the

1186
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 4: streets because we want. Once we're in the streets, we

1187
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 4: feel despised by everything else, you know what I mean.

1188
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 4: So it was just like, it's a blessing, bro, like

1189
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 4: to have the understanding when Jesus Christ is like, who

1190
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 4: would need a physician? The people who are healthy or

1191
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 4: the people who are sick, like people are seek. Yeah,

1192
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 4: so the Lord, the Lord calls you as you are. Man,

1193
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 4: You're never too dirty, You're.

1194
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: Never too bad, you're never too much of a criminal

1195
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: together team, and they're never too much of vidrillity. Yeah,

1196
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: A man.

1197
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 4: If if you had the first song that we released,

1198
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 4: a Christian gospel song, I was like, tell me who's

1199
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 4: two gangster for the church. And then the second line

1200
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 4: is like I'm hearing their two gangster and it hurts,

1201
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I'm like, who's to who's

1202
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 4: too called the step in the church. But when I

1203
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 4: talk to the brothers, talk to my mates, my closest mates, Bro,

1204
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 4: I'm telling him I come church, this and that. Then

1205
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 4: they say things like, man, if I step in church,

1206
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 4: I'd burn because I think they're too dirty and I'm

1207
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 4: hearing that they're too cooled, they're two gangster and and

1208
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 4: it hurts me roight, yeah, because like I got the

1209
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 4: truth and the tip of my tongue today, and I

1210
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 4: can set you free from everything you're going through if

1211
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 4: you just open up your heart and take it and

1212
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 4: receive it. But they don't want to receive it, lad,

1213
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 4: And it hurts my heart. It breaks my heart because

1214
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 4: I love these guys, you know what I mean.

1215
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: So there's the beauty of Jesus that you come as

1216
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: you are, like whatever you're going through. That he was

1217
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: accept man. Yeah, do you ever do you ever see

1218
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: I think we've played a little part in like the

1219
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: beef for a lot of the beef that between the

1220
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: areas and that I think we've played a little part

1221
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: of trying to change the narrative and that you ever

1222
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: see it like coming to an end anytime soon, just

1223
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: all the beef and the wrapping and all the area.

1224
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 4: Code beefs to be honest, not the way it's going

1225
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 4: right now. Man, It's like it just gets deeper and

1226
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 4: deeper man, But like I see that as my purpose

1227
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 4: is all to try to undo the work of the enemy, bro,

1228
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 4: because back in the days we should contribute in the

1229
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 4: work out of our ignorance. We played a part in

1230
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 4: filling these kids' heads up with the drill scene, with

1231
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 4: the gangster stuff. And now they look toward like now

1232
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 4: we're see it now. I was like, man, I really

1233
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 4: did that. Like, so it's just a blessing to be

1234
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 4: able to come back and try to undo what the

1235
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 4: devil has been doing with our youth. B because all

1236
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 4: of our youngins bro, Bro, these kids are just running a.

1237
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: Mark like something. Young is are very crazy and you

1238
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: know what fun because a lot of a lot of

1239
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: young is come come to me to flex like they

1240
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 1: want to show it off to me because they think

1241
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: we look up like we love that stuff. So a

1242
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: lot of youngest will come up to me and say,

1243
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: Melica done this. I didn't done this and that on

1244
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: the weekend, I had to fight with this kind of doing. Yeah,

1245
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: so I noticed a lot of young really look up

1246
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: to us. Man. Hopefully we see yea god willing man.

1247
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: Big up to the sk for coming through the things coming.

1248
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: We'll get some clouds cheering for that man, listen, class

1249
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: love it. Thank you so much for stepping out. He

1250
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: also came from we say now, really, Hills came from

1251
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: Rudy Hill. See, we couldn't get white people. We got man.

1252
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 4: It was like get white peace.

1253
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: About has got mad love. He's I know, we know

1254
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: he's got mad love from his era, but he'll say

1255
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: it has mad love from there. He Man, this could

1256
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: be like a start to a new beginning. And we

1257
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,919
Speaker 1: really appreciate I actually reached out to one thing left

1258
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: on the sing yep. But man, we thank you so much.

1259
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: But he came from Really, it's a big blessing to

1260
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: have you on, blessed to be here. Yeah, this is it. Man,

1261
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: he's got a big mission for everyone. If you see

1262
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: HK on the outside of the road, the guy's blessing everyone.

1263
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: He's got some new music coming out and yeah, he's

1264
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: just got heaps of stuff. Follow him on Instagram. He's

1265
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: always active. Yeah, get us on in starlight, fully with it.

1266
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, but come and have a geeze at what we're doing,

1267
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 4: by the by the Lord's will, to the power of

1268
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 4: his Holy Spirit. Man, come and see that the Lord

1269
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 4: is good. Man, see the works that he's doing within

1270
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 4: the brothers and I and man, God is just so good.

1271
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: Bro, Like.

1272
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 4: Just I just want to praise him, glorifying all of that,

1273
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 4: all that he's done, because it says in the Bible, man,

1274
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 4: God shows his love to us, portrays his love to us,

1275
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 4: and yet uh in that while we were still sinners,

1276
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 4: he said, Jesus Christ to die for our sins.

1277
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: Bro.

1278
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 4: That will always strike me in my heart. Every time

1279
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 4: I used to read it. I used to cry, Bro. Yeah, like, Man,

1280
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 4: you will send your son for me? Yeah?

1281
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: Me exactly.

1282
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean, I've did so much dirt. Yeah,

1283
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 4: I mean I've did all the things that is against

1284
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 4: who you are. His character is that he's holy and

1285
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 4: he's righteous, and I was doing everything opposite to that.

1286
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 4: And how could someone like me be able to enter

1287
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 4: hin these presence?

1288
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean.

1289
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 4: So that always strikes me, like, thank you Lord.

1290
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: And I was I'm a witness to this guy. Man.

1291
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: I was there when he was going through a lot

1292
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: of stuff. What's plans from now? Right now?

1293
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 4: Man's just focusing on ministries, bro, just really trying to

1294
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 4: get our men discipled.

1295
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: Bro. But as I said, like the lack of knowledge in.

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Speaker 4: A lot of our Christian brothers and sisters that go

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Speaker 4: out there with not being equipped with the Gospel, so

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Speaker 4: they easily influenced by other religions and stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: It's so quick to turn away from Christianity and look

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Speaker 4: at Islam and Catholicism. I'm not saying Catholicism as a whole,

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Speaker 4: probably is just like Roman Catholic Church. There's a lot

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Speaker 4: of doctrines that are in the line, but a lot

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Speaker 4: of people look more to the act and doing things

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Speaker 4: and not really the spirit and looking at the Creator

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Speaker 4: himself less.

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Speaker 1: Amen. Amen, Bro, amazing man. I think we're gonna I

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Speaker 1: think this Sigma podcast is too short, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have around two someday.

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Speaker 4: In the future with free It's definitely man.

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Speaker 1: Would love to see you again, but thanks thanks again

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Speaker 1: for coming through, but big appreciation. Hopefully we can set

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Speaker 1: up something again in the future verson we can see

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Speaker 1: and yeah that's that versus Bos and Condie giving you

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Speaker 1: the ropes that see the skirt