WEBVTT - Michelle Brasier and Being John Malkovich

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<v Speaker 1>Give a pete, Hell are you here? Welcome to you

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<v Speaker 1>and Seeing Nothing Yet the movie podcast We're out out

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<v Speaker 1>to a movie lover about a classic or beloved movie

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't quite got around to watching until now. And

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<v Speaker 1>today's guest actor comedian writer Michelle Brazier all below.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to stay here with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Than the jobble, Why.

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<v Speaker 4>Hate snake shocked, Hi, Hail.

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<v Speaker 5>Haven't any write, No, don't seen nothing new.

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<v Speaker 1>I am super pumped to have the wonderful, extremely talented,

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<v Speaker 1>the very funny Michelle Braziet on you ain't seen nothing

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<v Speaker 1>yet today. I am a massive fan. She's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most watchable performers doing the circuit at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>She's been plying her craft for over ten years. Early days,

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<v Speaker 1>she was in a group called a Double Denim and

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<v Speaker 1>more recently well then shifted over with hanging out with

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<v Speaker 1>the Only Donna Boys, became part of their troop and

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<v Speaker 1>appeared in their shows, their TV shows as I was

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<v Speaker 1>their live shows. But in more recent years it's really

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<v Speaker 1>broken out to announce herself as one of the most enjoyable, watchable,

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<v Speaker 1>talented solo performers. She did the show a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago called Average Bear, which blew me away. I

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<v Speaker 1>was such a massive fan of that show. I loved

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<v Speaker 1>it so much. And she has gone on and to

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<v Speaker 1>perform that show around the world New York, La, London, Edinburgh.

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<v Speaker 1>She has done it all. She's absolutely kicking major goals.

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<v Speaker 1>At the moment, I got into do a few episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of How to Stay Married. She was hilarious in that

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<v Speaker 1>is so much fun to work with. Also, she's been

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<v Speaker 1>Get Cracking. You may recognize her and Get Cracking and

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<v Speaker 1>fans of Sew Michaela's Mad as Hell would know her.

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<v Speaker 1>She actually also writes and provides voice for Yollow Crystal Fantasy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a massive cult show in the world of animation.

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<v Speaker 1>But she has also appeared on Drunk History, Hoovey and

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<v Speaker 1>she's she's doing She's literally doing it all. She can see.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got an amazing voice. She's a beautiful singer. And

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<v Speaker 1>she's walking into the Red Nads. I doing an introduction

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<v Speaker 1>coming with Michelle, and there's raving you up. Michelle's also

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<v Speaker 1>an author. Her book, her best selling book, My Brother's

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<v Speaker 1>Ashes Are in a Sandwich Bag hilarious, But you're so

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<v Speaker 1>kind of heartbreaking, and there's there's so much stuff loaded

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<v Speaker 1>into that book. Apple had it. There's one of the big, massive,

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<v Speaker 1>next big thing book, so get onto it. Audible. He

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<v Speaker 1>went massive on audible. Michelle did the Ordible. She did

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<v Speaker 1>the recording herself. You can listen to Michelle actually read

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<v Speaker 1>the book and her also her next year, the Comedy

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<v Speaker 1>Festival shows are on Sophie listening to this as it

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<v Speaker 1>comes out, and Michelle's show is called It's a Shame

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<v Speaker 1>We won't be friends next year A Grannie assume that

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<v Speaker 1>he is about Brodon Kelly, but maybe not. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to Michelle about that. Michelle is extremely talented,

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<v Speaker 1>as I've said, hilarious and I'm bloody Stoke can be

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<v Speaker 1>hanging with her to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, I'm Michelle Brazier. My favorite films are. This is

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<v Speaker 2>very hard because I'm like, I want to do my

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<v Speaker 2>letterbox top four and I have to drop off A four.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm going to go Paddington too.

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<v Speaker 6>We can still hear you, mister Brown.

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<v Speaker 5>That was the light you turned off. The microphone is

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<v Speaker 5>on the other side.

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<v Speaker 6>It's got microphone written on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Waiting for Guffman.

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<v Speaker 1>We had the first sighting here in nineteen forty six.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't just a sadie. They just can fly by.

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<v Speaker 5>They stopped, they landed, The people in Blaine went on

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<v Speaker 5>board the ship, pot lucked, dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>And Furious seven.

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<v Speaker 5>You risk life and limb to say, the free world?

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<v Speaker 1>And what do they give you?

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<v Speaker 6>Jello and a bad seventies TV show?

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<v Speaker 2>But up ut yesterday, I had never seen being John Malkovich. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>when you say that I can be somebody else, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you mean exactly?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we mean exactly that we can put you inside

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<v Speaker 5>someone else's body for fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I be anybody that I want to be?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you, actually you can be John Malkovich.

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<v Speaker 1>It's perfect. It's my second choice, but it's wonderful. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a fat man, i am sad, and I'm two hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh h yes, yes. Struggling puppeteer Craig Schwartz John

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<v Speaker 1>Kuzak is married to animal rescue at Lottie and almost

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<v Speaker 1>unrecognizable Cameron Diaz. Anxious, insecure, and perhaps a little depressed,

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<v Speaker 1>Craig applies for a filing job at a mysterious company

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<v Speaker 1>located on the seven and a half floor of a

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<v Speaker 1>New York skyscraper. Craig gets the job, falls in love

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<v Speaker 1>with a seemingly unattainable Maxine Katherine Keener, and happens to

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<v Speaker 1>come across a portal into the body of acclaimed actor

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<v Speaker 1>and thespian John Melkovich played by John Malkovich. From a

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<v Speaker 1>script by the enigmatic Charlie Kauffman the feature debut of

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<v Speaker 1>Spike Jones. It's a miracle this film ever got made.

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<v Speaker 1>A puppeteer finds a portal into the body of John Malkovich,

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<v Speaker 1>which allows customers access to Malkovich for fifteen minutes before

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<v Speaker 1>being spat out alongside the new Jersey Turnpike. Yet welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the world of Charlie Kaufman, Michelle Brazier. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever entered the mind of John Malkovich or any celebrity

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<v Speaker 1>for that matter.

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<v Speaker 2>I never have, and you know, watching this, I really

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<v Speaker 2>regretted it. I thought so. The moral of this story

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be that you should enter into John Malkovich

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<v Speaker 2>if you get the chance, nothing will go wrong and

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<v Speaker 2>it will be good. So, yeah, no, I haven't have you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I've come close. When I'm at the door,

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm kneeling down and I go I'll go through

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<v Speaker 1>the portal.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm scared of the slide.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm spooked. I like the there.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate being wet. It looks wet in there.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks wet. Once you get there, it seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>a reasonably pleasant destination.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. That is true. You know you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>weigh the pros and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Col You certainly do. Michelle, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>being on. You ain't see nothing yet. We've been negotiating this.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like for quite a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Our text message through it is simply just cancelations and

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<v Speaker 2>reorganizations of doing this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so thank you so much for finally getting here

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<v Speaker 1>and for being in the country, because you've been cheering

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<v Speaker 1>around everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and this is a film.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited because you know, after people say I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen this film, I'm like, yeah, okay, then fair enough,

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<v Speaker 1>let's watch that film. But this is when you said

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<v Speaker 1>you hadn't seen being That kind of blew my mind

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit because I would have thought, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll getting to whether you liked it or not soon,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would have thought this was one of those

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<v Speaker 1>films that maybe would have been like a seminal film

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<v Speaker 1>for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it should have been, and I I when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at me, you you might conclude that this

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the main ingredients. But I had not

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<v Speaker 2>seen it, which is a shock. But I think I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I thought it was a drama for starters. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was a drama. I didn't know it was

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Kaufman. I didn't know it was Spike Jones. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know any of that stuff. I was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds like I don't know, like one of you

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<v Speaker 2>know that. I put it in the same world as

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<v Speaker 2>like that movie that's about Alan Turing, that drama about

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<v Speaker 2>the guy, you know, the one, Yeah, another one. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not I know everyone's annoyed now, is it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, you know, those movies that are probably

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<v Speaker 2>important to see, but like I can't really be bothered

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<v Speaker 2>sitting through the drama of it all. Yeah, that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of that's what I thought it was. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like surreal, absurd, big swing of a film.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a massive swing, and like I said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it was. You know, we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>whether you enjoyed it them not soon. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about your three favorite films. But I think just

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<v Speaker 1>the celebration that this film got made, like it's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's if you if you did not enjoy the film,

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<v Speaker 1>if you I didn't quite work for me, celebrate the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that this film has got made.

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<v Speaker 2>That somebody said, yeah, somebody said yes, let's make this.

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<v Speaker 2>I love a big swing. I really love a big swing.

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<v Speaker 2>I've really been enjoying them lately. I loved Saltburn. I

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<v Speaker 2>love anything that's just like I'm just going for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, let's go, let's fucking go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. And it's kind up a little bit in

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast recently where you know, people are saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the only movies that have IP get made, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I can understand that, and Marvel films and

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff, but there's still like they're still yogist

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<v Speaker 1>making films, and they're still you know, Reuben austronm banking

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<v Speaker 1>on his name you direct or Swedish and they're making

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<v Speaker 1>like still great films, and put On Sanderson is still

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<v Speaker 1>making great films. And there are still and the new

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<v Speaker 1>filmmakers all the time coming through. You can't because they

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<v Speaker 1>can't start with making it a Marvel film or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Handed the Keys to Barbie or whatever. You still have

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<v Speaker 1>to work out and those those filmmakers have to make

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<v Speaker 1>a making I think, maybe more interesting films.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so well. I mean it's interesting about like

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<v Speaker 2>the Substance, which I also adored, and that was her

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<v Speaker 2>second feature, I believe, but I think also a second

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<v Speaker 2>big swing. I think the first one was also kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a big maybe less of a high concept, but

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<v Speaker 2>also a really big swing. I just am really interested

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<v Speaker 2>in that, Like, yeah, let's just make a really weird thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It is really nice, and people don't go and see it?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that? What was the one before? Kinds of Kindness

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<v Speaker 2>with poor things, poor things? I adored poor things, And

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<v Speaker 2>even if you hated poor things, it's like, well at

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<v Speaker 2>least it's new.

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<v Speaker 1>Well exactly, and you go. I mean, the favorite was amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Lobster favorite was so good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my favorite of his is so good, and and

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<v Speaker 1>and Ruben Asland the Triangle of Sadness was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, oh my god, being in the cinema for Triangle

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<v Speaker 2>of Sadness in that I won't ruin it, but in

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<v Speaker 2>that particular scene and the third Active Triangle of Sadness

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<v Speaker 2>being a completely different film, but maybe the best one

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<v Speaker 2>in the three films.

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<v Speaker 1>Three these three acts in that film, and they all

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<v Speaker 1>feel like different it could potentially be different films. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's so good enforce measure, Like it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything everywhere all at once. Big swings, swing, big girls,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>Past Lives maybe not the biggest as a swing, but

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<v Speaker 1>still like it's a beautiful original film.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what I like. I like something that's like

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<v Speaker 2>either Past Lives or the substance. I want to see

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<v Speaker 2>something that is tiny or something that is enormous. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not interested in the middle at this current moment, in

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<v Speaker 2>my current.

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<v Speaker 1>Life, current life and your next life. Who knows films

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be.

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<v Speaker 2>Into once I'm inside John Malkovich, Oh well, probably be

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<v Speaker 2>into all kinds of different movies.

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<v Speaker 1>The way this podcast episode ends, if you look over

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<v Speaker 1>in the corner the cupboard, this a little slightly a jar.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's actually Roves mind. Actually couldn't, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>find them.

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<v Speaker 2>Always wanted to be in.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been so close so many times. Let's so about

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<v Speaker 1>your three favorite films. I'm so glad that Paddington Too.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been raving about Paddington too. I'm doing Peter and

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<v Speaker 1>the Starcatch at the moment, and you know, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's twelve actors all hanging out a lot and if

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<v Speaker 1>you hadn't seen Paddington Too, and I know you need to,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had John Batchelor and Paul Captu has had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea that Paddington Too was this actual is genuinely great,

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<v Speaker 1>as is Padington Won, but Paddington too. He's like the

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<v Speaker 1>godfather too of Paddington movies. And he's a genuinely great film.

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<v Speaker 1>And I saw you Grant talking about it on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>recently and I was look. He said, like it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>considered a letter box is maybe like the most popular, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>alm or something like that. Yeah, so it is an

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary film.

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<v Speaker 2>I had one hundred percent on Rotten Tomatoes at least

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<v Speaker 2>when I first watched it for like a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good. It's so beautiful. I love whimsy. I

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<v Speaker 2>when I was picking which movie to say, it was

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<v Speaker 2>between that and Marcel The Shell with Shoes On, because

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<v Speaker 2>I just love that kind of whimsy. I really adore it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something about the like what we perceive as British nests,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is actually not real, but the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of Britishness that's very like adds to that. And then

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<v Speaker 2>this beautiful story about this bear who is just very

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<v Speaker 2>kind and the design is stunning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like it's one of the biggest surprises at

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<v Speaker 1>a cinema that I I mean maybe because I've seen Pennington.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't as a supprise the surprise I go the

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<v Speaker 1>first Pennington was like, oh wow, this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>much big. I wasn't going to see it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I heard all these things you say, and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>it because of the age now where my kids a

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<v Speaker 1>old enough, they're probably not going to come to those

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<v Speaker 1>films with you. There was too good for school for that,

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of films just right now. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I see picks up film and probably watching it

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<v Speaker 1>by myself taking the kids to see picks out films

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<v Speaker 1>the now back in the cinema by.

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<v Speaker 2>Myself, they've aged out and they have an age back

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<v Speaker 2>in exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And they will age back in. But yeah, so that

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<v Speaker 1>was a surprise. And then to see Patting Them two

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<v Speaker 1>and go, oh, it's even better.

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<v Speaker 2>It was beautiful. By the time I saw Paddington One,

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<v Speaker 2>Paddington two was already out, and Broden Kelly said to me,

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<v Speaker 2>Paddington two is your favorite movie. And I said I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen it, and he said, I know, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>your favorite movie. You're going to fucking love it. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I was like, do you have to watch Paddington One.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, not really, but like it's also really good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's your second favorite movie. And I was like, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went home and I watched the Paddington's and

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<v Speaker 2>I was just daw on the floor. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>saw them at home. I loved them.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's so good if you haven't seen any of

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<v Speaker 1>the Paddington is the third one coming out in the

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<v Speaker 1>New year. Actually, Waiting for Guffman what a film. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like a meetings you know very much, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a comedians kind of film. Yeah, obviously stacked with comedians

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<v Speaker 1>and comic performers, but just just so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so good. I love all the Christopher Guest films.

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<v Speaker 2>I really love A Mighty Wind, which is the folk

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<v Speaker 2>music mockumentary, but I think Waiting for Guffman takes the cake.

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<v Speaker 2>For me because it's about music theater, amateur music theater society,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is just where my heart lives. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>funniest place in the world for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I do try to sometimes make a case because Guffman,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly amongst comedians, seems to be the one that we

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<v Speaker 1>all love because it wasn't necessarily the first obviously spinal

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<v Speaker 1>tap Guffman, but there's a bit of a gap between

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<v Speaker 1>that and Guffin coming out, and it just seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be the one that everyone loves. Best in shows obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, best in shows great. I mean, you can't argument

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<v Speaker 2>there's dogs in it. Yeah, it's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>And for your consideration, is underrated. I think as well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's about actors, and I was just coming up and

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<v Speaker 1>trying the lobby and all of that, and I sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>try to make the case for a Mighty Wind or

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<v Speaker 1>in Shah or even for your consideration. But the fact is,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Pam for pound for Guffin is the funniest.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very quotable, like in all the songs. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>a really fabulous pairing of worlds. But I mean saying

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<v Speaker 2>that A Mighty Wind has the most incredible music in

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<v Speaker 2>it like it's really good, genuinely good and really funny.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of I think A Mighty Wind is

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<v Speaker 2>very moving as well. Yeah, like the kiss at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the Rainbow is very like yeah, oh, like

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've cried a few times in that. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite comedic moment ever is in In a Mighty Wind

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<v Speaker 2>when they're all someone's died and they're having a minute

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<v Speaker 2>silence for him who's died at the wake, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, actually, can we make it a hum? Can

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<v Speaker 2>everyone do a hum? Because obviously it's like folk music,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they're all humming, and then you hear this

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<v Speaker 2>like ho and it pans around and you get to

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Coolidge and she's humming, but her mouth is open

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<v Speaker 2>and it's the most absurd honk. And it's really good shot.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a really funny reveal. It's just it's my

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<v Speaker 2>that is the main ingredient in Who I Am. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that one scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The term that I always use a lot is

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Willard when he strikes the chair. You want me

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<v Speaker 1>to strike this? I know? Other terms I'm using a

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<v Speaker 1>term in theater or even TV or film. I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know the terms another term, but what a collection

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<v Speaker 1>of like Eugene Levy and Katherine o Harr, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>always seem to be coupled together in these films, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just I mean a beautiful mix of talent and all

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<v Speaker 1>just at the top of their game and executing and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so good. I could watch I can watch all of

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<v Speaker 1>them if there's In fact, I'm satting to Colin Layne

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<v Speaker 1>recently backstage at the Starcatcher and he had just we

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<v Speaker 1>both actually tuned in for like flicking three channels in

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<v Speaker 1>Besting Show, we're on at the same time without knowing

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<v Speaker 1>it and end up watching like half a best in

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<v Speaker 1>show because it's if it's on, it's hard, it's hard.

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<v Speaker 2>To turn away. So good and you notice new things

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, Yes, because all the actors are so

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<v Speaker 2>good and they're all doing something, so you can watch

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<v Speaker 2>every scene like seven times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so you have it, you have a favorite

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<v Speaker 1>like if you like do you have it like a

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<v Speaker 1>favorite actor in that In the Christopher guest World.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really hard. I love Parker Posey, she is great,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think my Catherine, her heart is very hard

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<v Speaker 2>to beat, very very hard to be so.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, that combination. Yeah, in show whenever, whenever she plays cookie,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's cookie and and they she keeps on

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<v Speaker 1>bumping into exploit boyfriends, partners, and it's she plays it

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<v Speaker 1>so well, Like the idea is funny, Yeah, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>What's funnier is the perform.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just the sandbox for her. With same with

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Coolidge. It's like, hey, we built you this Coolidge playground.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you go. And if anyone else did it, it would

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<v Speaker 2>be like okay, but she does it. It's like brilliant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just a different world.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so good. One that was I expecting Fast and

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<v Speaker 1>Furious what I saw. I saw a clip of you

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<v Speaker 1>that you posted on Instagram where you had a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of tech issues and tech issues in the show in London. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Five hundred seats. My agent was there, my mum had

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<v Speaker 2>flown to London. My biggest show ever in London, and

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<v Speaker 2>uh yeah, the tech the tech went to share so you.

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<v Speaker 1>You filled the timing as a text, you know, did

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<v Speaker 1>what text doing and we went to work by this

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<v Speaker 1>running through the Fast.

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<v Speaker 2>And Furious, I was like, I'm going to show you

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<v Speaker 2>the plot of the Fast and the Furious until the

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<v Speaker 2>tech comes back on. It's a long plot.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine it would have been one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>that you were so enjoyable to watch, you counting Fast

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<v Speaker 1>and Furious. There might have been one or two people

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<v Speaker 1>slightly going how do you transition? You know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you go into a bit of improv or crowd work,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it can be hard transition back into the material.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it was kind of hard, and I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to keep gold. I think it was, like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a shame because it's one of the funniest I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>been on stage. When I watched something, there's footage of it,

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<v Speaker 2>so many people filmed it, and when I look at it,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this was the best I've ever been And

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<v Speaker 2>I can never use this again. But this is not

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<v Speaker 2>helpful to me unless I make one year My comedy

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<v Speaker 2>show is just Michelle Brazier tells you the entire plot

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<v Speaker 2>of The Fast and Furious franchise. You will sell tickets

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<v Speaker 2>cell tickets. But yeah, I love I love The Fast

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<v Speaker 2>and the Furious franchise so much. I love cars, broom, broom,

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<v Speaker 2>I love family.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about family.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. It's so I started watching it, ironically

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<v Speaker 2>the whole series, and then by the time I got

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<v Speaker 2>to seven, I was like, sorry, there's something in my

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<v Speaker 2>eye feel kind of crazy. So Furious seven is, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, the best one because it's very moving and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like and it's it's a real joy. It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like the height of the new school of Fast

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<v Speaker 2>and Furious before it gets too silly and you you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Walker and everything. You know, it's very sad. But

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<v Speaker 2>I also, I can't tell you how much I adored

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<v Speaker 2>ten Fast, ten Your seat Belts. And I thought that one,

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<v Speaker 2>not that it was good, but I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>really brilliant. Like I thought it was like, this movie

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<v Speaker 2>is not a good film, but this movie is a

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<v Speaker 2>great movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like how two thousand and one is not a good

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<v Speaker 2>movie but it's a great film. Does that make sense? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>The movies have popcorn two and there's movies that drink wine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, And this is more of a vodka cruiser.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just I love the Fast and Furious franchise,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think this is the balance because the first

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<v Speaker 2>one is a good film as well, Like I think

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<v Speaker 2>you make an argument that it's a good film, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it kind of goes a bit, It goes in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different ways, and Tokyo Drift is probably

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<v Speaker 2>a good film too, and then five the rockawayn Johnson

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<v Speaker 2>enters and then it becomes this absurd thing where they

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<v Speaker 2>just have this pattern of folding the villain into the

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<v Speaker 2>family the next time, and the lines are so iconic,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we get to seven and we're like yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the balance went off, So I say seven,

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<v Speaker 2>but in my heart, I really mean ten. I really

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<v Speaker 2>mean the silliest ones, the silliest bits. I mean like

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Momoa playing a Disney high camp villain, Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I love about the franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>What are they up to now? Because I think up

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<v Speaker 1>to ten? So yeah, I saw that. I saw that

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<v Speaker 1>with part one. I saw that if Ross Noble actually

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<v Speaker 1>did you yes, yes, yes, And I hadn't seen one

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<v Speaker 1>for years.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that would have been so confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was like it was, it was park your

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<v Speaker 1>brain and just enjoy exactly what you're saying. We are

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<v Speaker 1>watching a movie and I'm gonna eat and like we

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<v Speaker 1>actually spoke about it. I said, there's so much craft

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<v Speaker 1>on screen that you don't sometimes, you know, give credit

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<v Speaker 1>to because we used all the shiny stuff. But between

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<v Speaker 1>the stunt driving and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Physical effects and the stunt driving is crazy and people

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<v Speaker 2>don't like In is it seven or six? I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember which one it is, but in one of them,

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<v Speaker 2>they literally they parachute high performance vehicles out of a

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<v Speaker 2>plane and they did that, and they had Camerman who

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<v Speaker 2>was skydiving in green screen suits. Like filming these cars

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<v Speaker 2>with parachutes, that's crazy. You didn't need to do that. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Love for those films and I feel it and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel it and I appreciate it, and you know, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>continue watching Fast and Furious now, please do. I will

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<v Speaker 1>think of you every single time. But let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the film. We are here to discuss.

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<v Speaker 3>Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich,

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<v Speaker 3>Much of It Malkovich.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen ninety nine, from the brain of Charlie Kaufman, who

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<v Speaker 1>also would write adaptation You Turn on Sunshine on the

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<v Speaker 1>Spotless mind, Spike Jones, who would also make adaptation and

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<v Speaker 1>her starring John Cusack, John Malkovich, of course, Catherine Keener,

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<v Speaker 1>Kareron Diaz sel Bras. Did you enjoy being John Malkovich?

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<v Speaker 2>I loved this film.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so glad. I mean I was confident, but

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<v Speaker 1>you never know, you never know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I adored this film. I thought it was incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't believe I hadn't seen it. The first ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I hate this guy. I hope we're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to hate this guy. And then I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're allowed. We're meant to hate the guy. That's great

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<v Speaker 2>that he's the villain. But it was such a joy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was and I love the idea of Cameron Diaz

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<v Speaker 2>being like, oh, how do we make her yack? Or

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<v Speaker 2>what if we give her frizzy hair? She's still so.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful, absolutely beautiful that the first ten or so minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>they the way they like her is really like they

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<v Speaker 1>almost you couldn't tell it was. Yeah, they deliberately letting

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<v Speaker 1>you adjust. They wanted a moment where you might go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually Cameron Das. They hold off on it, yeho.

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<v Speaker 1>They they kind of their faces lit particularly well in

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<v Speaker 1>the first or ten minutes or so. But yeah, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is so good in this movie, so good.

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<v Speaker 2>And the character Maxine, she was amazing, what an incredible character.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Katherine Keener apparently did not like the character, like

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<v Speaker 1>like she found it difficult to play. But I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm surprised when I read that because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a ballsy kind of She's so funny, so funny,

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<v Speaker 1>she just like doesn't give a fuck. Yeah, you know, sexy,

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<v Speaker 1>she's just like funny, like all of it, all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was surprised that she maybe struggled, maybe because

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<v Speaker 1>she's maybe nothing like that in person. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought, you know, I remember seeing this film

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<v Speaker 1>going my first Catherine Keener experience. I think when I

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<v Speaker 1>saw this film, I was like, who's that? And she's amazing?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, there are so many things. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure where we want to you know, kind of start, but.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you even dive in the surrealist lesbian rom

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<v Speaker 2>com set inside of John Malcovic.

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<v Speaker 1>Metaphysical jaunt of a movie like the idea? I think

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons it works is because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>weird idea, yes, and everyone wants, you know, love to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how weird the idea is, but it feels

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<v Speaker 1>they find a way to make it feel you're not

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<v Speaker 1>questioning it.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't try to explain it. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing with sci fi. You just don't. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>say this is how, You just say, yeah, this is what.

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<v Speaker 1>It's. And it's such a It takes a lot of craft.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes a lot of balls as well, because you

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<v Speaker 1>are when you're making easy you know, when you're making

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<v Speaker 1>something you don't know, you know you can, You're asking

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<v Speaker 1>people and you're getting feedback from people around you, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you do test screenings, but you don't know. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it's that when you do a twist sometimes you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've done a few things like episodes of TV where

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<v Speaker 1>is a twist and you kind to go people spotting

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<v Speaker 1>the twist. I don't know, I'm too close to it.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be asking yourself the question. It's a pissing people

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<v Speaker 1>laugh that they we haven't explained what this is. Those

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<v Speaker 1>questions would have been discussed by Spike Jones and Charlie Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to learn so much about the making

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<v Speaker 2>of this film. Yeah, and the different versions. I'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to read the first draft of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, apparently like the first it was much longer.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who were trying to get in on and

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<v Speaker 1>getting to the vessel, that is John Malkovich I, the

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<v Speaker 1>elder elderly people were trying to take over the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was like Satan was kind of a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. From what I've read, it sounds like we

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<v Speaker 1>got to the right movie of the version, the right

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<v Speaker 1>version of the movie. Yeah. But also I think like

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<v Speaker 1>it starts off, there's so many like weird things going

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<v Speaker 1>on with Lottie has every animal under the sun in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Chimpanzee, and that has hard to watch now in through

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<v Speaker 2>our current lens, like to be like, oh, what happened

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<v Speaker 2>to that chimpanzee? And why is it so close to

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<v Speaker 2>that dog?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you kind of also, I mean credit, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if I'll be jumping in the cage with

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<v Speaker 1>the chimpanzee on a film set crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen chimp crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah. First starters, don't put the

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<v Speaker 2>chimp through that. Secondly, that's Cameron Dias. Be careful with it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really important.

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<v Speaker 1>Came these these precious yeah. Yeah, and then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the seven and a half floor, and you've got this.

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<v Speaker 2>Speech in love that was so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>And and the woman in the fucking Lift.

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<v Speaker 1>School Winner, Octavia Spencer.

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<v Speaker 2>The cameos in this film were in incredible. Yes, Isaac

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<v Speaker 2>Hanson is in the audience at one point watching John

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<v Speaker 2>Malkovich puppeteer. It was so good.

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<v Speaker 1>The Sean penn One was a particular favorite of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Anderson is just visible off screen. Yeah, she's got

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<v Speaker 1>almost a head turn, so it's only you wouldn't know,

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>but it is. Jennifer Anderson was during Jenfees. David Fincher

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<v Speaker 1>is Christopher Bing but he's like talking about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the effect that John Horatio Malcovich. My favorite fact in

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<v Speaker 1>this movie is that John Horatio Malcovich his middle name

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<v Speaker 1>is not Horatio even that, and I love that giving

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<v Speaker 1>him that because it sounds like it might be John's

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<v Speaker 1>middle name, but his middle name and I love this

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<v Speaker 1>is Gavin Gavin, John, John Gavin. You could give me

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand guesses as to what John Malkovich's middle name was,

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<v Speaker 1>and Gavin.

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<v Speaker 2>Would not have come at once, No, neither.

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<v Speaker 1>That is amazing. And you've got You've got lester, who's

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<v Speaker 1>got this not speech impediment which is gone?

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<v Speaker 2>That was so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Play Secretary, play there by Mary kay Placer we know

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<v Speaker 1>from the Big Chill and then she's amazing and you

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<v Speaker 1>can watch it and you can kind of go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>these are just jokes. And you got the video as

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<v Speaker 1>the why as the why the Let's have a listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the history of the seven and a half floor.

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<v Speaker 4>Captain Merton, once you got a child, I'm not a child,

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<v Speaker 4>but rather than an ould lady, a miniature proportions.

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<v Speaker 6>See, well there was charity after become.

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<v Speaker 4>Follow I'm not asking for all, Captain, but rather the

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<v Speaker 4>year of a kind man. What's a normal heart?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, speak to Captain Merton.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm afraid that the world was not built with me

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 4>and mine. Doorknobs are too high, chairs are unreally, and

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 4>high ceiling rooms mock my stature. Why cannot there be

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<v Speaker 4>a place for me to work in safe and comfort?

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<v Speaker 6>The story is movement like the other. Therefore I shall

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<v Speaker 6>make you mean wife, and they should build a floor

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<v Speaker 6>for you between the between the seventh and the eighth

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<v Speaker 6>and the old building, so at least there'll be one

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<v Speaker 6>place in God's Green eart good you and you're a

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<v Speaker 6>cursed kink living piece.

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<v Speaker 2>I love him as the Irish like explore a or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, that's not Irish, really good, foul devil.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's so so it's easy to look at these

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<v Speaker 1>and go, oh, they just they almost feel like a

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<v Speaker 1>bit like their sketches on my Like, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>movie works with with that the seven and a half

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<v Speaker 1>floor and the speech impediment and all these things that

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<v Speaker 1>even the chimp, we see his memory of being you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god being, Yeah, taken from the jungle.

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<v Speaker 1>Taken from the jungle. And his name's the same name

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<v Speaker 1>that Lordie. So it's like it's like the parents have

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<v Speaker 1>actually given him the name and then it's been adopted

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<v Speaker 1>by Camery has. But the reason is Charlie Coffin knows

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<v Speaker 1>he needs to build a culture in this film, a

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<v Speaker 1>world that so when we get to the Portal, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem as weird as it would be in the

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<v Speaker 1>Reese Witherspoon nineties kind of romantic comedy. Yeah, like we're

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<v Speaker 1>in conditioned. He's conditioning us to kind of go this

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<v Speaker 1>world is a bit off center, yes, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>funnily enough, I was watching a BAFT speech that Charliekavin

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<v Speaker 1>gave last night. Didn't give it last night. I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching it last night and he spoke about when you

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<v Speaker 1>write your scripts, you need to have your world needs

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<v Speaker 1>to feel consistent, and I was going, well, that's it,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I've been thinking about. That's why all these

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<v Speaker 1>things are happening. So when we get to the portal

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<v Speaker 1>into John mccolmich's mind, which is a fucking back crazy

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<v Speaker 1>idea that we feel like this could happen in this.

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<v Speaker 2>World because everybody believes him as well. When he discovers

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<v Speaker 2>the portal, everybody goes, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't challenge him, they don't worry that he's sick.

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<v Speaker 2>They go okay, yeah, yeah, which is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it'll be the temptation for somebody to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>resist it and kind of go and then use that

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<v Speaker 1>as a way of feeding the audience and explanation as

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<v Speaker 1>to why this could possibly Just like you said earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>we love that they don't. They don't. And because sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you risk when you explain that, people going oh that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't hold up. Yeah, so don't explain it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't explain it. I just don't just don't try.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. I love sci fi that just goes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's this shut up, yeah, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I love about sci fi as well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>different ways you can dole. Like Christopher Nolan does movies.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, obviously Interstellar and and Inception, which are metaphysical

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<v Speaker 1>and but there is, it feels like there is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of explaining going on there is. He's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of reach a place where you can trace some

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<v Speaker 1>thought to be possible.

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 2>But I actually don't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like this version.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, whenever I'm watching Christopher Nolan films, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm being left behind.

0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I'm always like, yeah, I.

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.959
<v Speaker 2>Didn't twelve maths. Can we just shut up?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think Tenant. I was lost twelve minutes in

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<v Speaker 1>and I never regained my footing.

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's too hard. Yeah, it's too much. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>leaving like Interstellar and be like I get it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then now I can't remember anything about the film because

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<v Speaker 2>I spent the entire film being like, oh okay, like

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<v Speaker 2>trying to understand rather than like feeling anything for the

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<v Speaker 2>characters or anything. Yeah, it's like, so wait what Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, my dog just sneezed. I forgot she's here.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got the beautiful retired guy dog. Eva Eva, Eva

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<v Speaker 1>asked about to Ali, But it's Eva. Did you watch

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<v Speaker 1>being John Makovic with Eva? I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she sat on the couch and she watched it,

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed it, she loved it. Yeah, she only went to

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<v Speaker 2>sleep a few times, so that's pretty good for her.

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good. Yeah, dogs sleep most of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>they do.

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<v Speaker 1>How good is the performance, by the way, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>all so good. But John Malkovich, he comes onto this project,

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<v Speaker 1>he hears about it through again, we're going to celebrate

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the fact this movie got made by a first time

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 1>director and the first time rider. That's it's it's not

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>like people with all these experiences behind us. So they

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>went okay, and with names that don't traditionally sell movies.

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Kuzak and Malcovich were coming off conn Air together.

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>But I mean it's not enough to necessarily get a movie.

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Mate got into the hands of Francis Wold Coppola, who

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:19.880
<v Speaker 1>is who knows it's going to get passed around, And

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 1>obviously his daughter is Sophia Coppler. She's married to Spike Jones.

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>He gets a script and is like, so Francs for

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a couple, I think did a little bit of pushing it.

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 1>You know the script. You should met the Spike Jones,

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>but John Malcovich. They pictured this with John Malkovich and

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>he met with Charlie Cafran and said, how about this is?

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 1>He read the first thirty pages and went, this is stunning,

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>like this is this guy's got talent and he said,

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>how about you? Yeah, but nobody's going to make this film.

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 1>So how about we're working on some Howard Hawk's film.

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to come on and help us rewrite that?

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>And he said no, I'm not interested in doing that.

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 1>He said, okay, how about we try to get this

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 1>film but we change the John Malkovich character and I

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll direct it. He said, no, I'm not interested in that.

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 1>He said, okay, well, no worries. They left and for

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:15.439
<v Speaker 1>some other I'm sure why, I think. Then he met

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Spike Jones. I think Frenchville Copler step and said you

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>need to meet with Spike Jones. We're all gonna be

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 1>working with it for him one day, and he met

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>with him and was impressed enough and came back on board.

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>But I think he thought that he saw the opportunity

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:31.280
<v Speaker 1>to direct, and he thought, if I'm going to direct,

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I think me directing me in that role is too much.

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:36.880
<v Speaker 1>It's too much. So I think that's why. And there

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:40.439
<v Speaker 1>are other producers who recommended, like how about it's being

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Brad Pitt or bring being Tom Cruise.

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, I was thinking about that. I was like, it's

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 2>so shocking that it's John Malkovich. Yeah, and it's so

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 2>good that it's John.

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>So who's John Malkovich to you? Like, like do you

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:54.720
<v Speaker 1>like how much are you aware of like who he

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.319
<v Speaker 1>is when you see the name being John Malkovich? What

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 1>was like film references and you have a type in mind,

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:01.839
<v Speaker 1>did you? Yeah?

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe it's Connair or like character actor villain,

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 2>like camp kind of silly gravitas man.

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think that's that's really good. And I think

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.439
<v Speaker 1>even in nineteen ninety nine he was because he's done

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 1>like dangerous for the Aisons and he was like you know,

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Oscar based a Thespian and a serious, a serious guy.

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Conye kind of was you know slightly that kind of

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>shocked everyone. That was like and he you know that

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 1>was a money job, obviously, And he tells a story

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:33.720
<v Speaker 1>of he was working with his like quite learned English

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>playwright and somebody, an assistant came in and gave him

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 1>the latest Conna Air script and he looked at it

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>and he just threw out over his shoulder. And the

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 1>playwright said, do you mind much if I've ever read

0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>a Hollywood script, do you mind if I just take

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 1>it home and have a read of it? And he goes, sure, sure, absolutely,

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and he took it home and the next day he

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 1>came back and he said, mister Malcolm, I just only

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:58.840
<v Speaker 1>decided I read the script last night for Connair, and

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad you have got your principles and that

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you're not doing you know, like this, and he gaes,

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing it. I just I just don't need to

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>read it.

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do it.

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking the six million dollars and I'm I'm definitely

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>doing the film. But yeah, so he was like, it's

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>really interesting when you like, would this film be as

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 1>fun if it was being Tom Cruise? Like, No, I

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>think there is something it would feel sketchy.

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I think you have to be funny. It has to

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 2>be a character actor. Yeah, it has to be somebody

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 2>like that. It could be like being John c Riley.

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 2>It could be being John Leguizamo, any of the Johns.

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 2>But it can't be Brad Pitt. Yeah, it's boring. That's

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 2>a different movie. And Tom Cruise, I don't know. I

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 2>love Tom Cruise in Magnolia and everything else. I'm like, okay, sure, yeah.

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm a Cruise fan, I think, but I just don't

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>think this is as in or as funny. Even though

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Tom Cruise, I'm sure if he agreed to do it,

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 1>would jump in with both feet and he'd have fun

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.399
<v Speaker 1>and have fun and be happy to take the piss

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>and all that. But I just think this was such

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 1>a surprising choice and the fact that he said yes

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to it, and that we hadn't really seen I don't

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 1>think i'd seen Malviich do comedy up until this point.

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>And he was just so good. Not only was he

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>so good when he was kind of being himself as this,

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>like you know, up himself thespian. Yeah, but then when

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:36.879
<v Speaker 1>he when Kuzak inhabits him, it becomes like this, he's

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 1>so funny.

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 2>He's so funny, just in that one scene where he

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 2>goes inside himself and then in the restaurant everybody is

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:48.839
<v Speaker 2>him and just to like look around that table. God,

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 2>I would have loved to have been on set to

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 2>see what he did. All those little improv bits, all

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 2>those little all the characters he played that were John

0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Malkovich were amazing. That was like, this is the man.

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Now we've seen We've seen you do all of these

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:05.720
<v Speaker 2>characters that you did for two seconds each in this scene,

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 2>and that was really exciting to me.

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like that. Yeah, and because he also got the

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Kusak's character's kind of voice and these mannerisms, and when

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>he's looking at his body, goes, why couldn't I have

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 1>found a younger body? Or and he has what if

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:25.359
<v Speaker 1>I fall over and break a hip? Yeah, it's so good.

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 2>He's also like forty three, and they're talking about like

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 2>how old he is. I think he was forty six

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 2>when the movie came out. Yeah, they're talking about how

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 2>old he is. A he does look so much older

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:41.280
<v Speaker 2>than forty three. I think a combination of I guess

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 2>that it was the nineties, but maybe like just the

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 2>way his hair is, with the sort of hair on

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 2>the side but nothing in the middle, and he hasn't

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.879
<v Speaker 2>shaved it. But it is crazy the way that they're

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 2>talking about age. And even the man who comes in

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 2>and is like, I'm a fat man. I was like,

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 2>you're a medium sized man. Men are bigger.

0:39:59.040 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Everything is way different now we're all really young and

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:09.280
<v Speaker 2>also really big. That's cultural difference. I also really loved

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 2>the agent when he walks in and keeps repeating sorry

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 2>about the counter at reception. Oh my god, I couldn't

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 2>believe I was. I wrote it down. I was like,

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 2>that's so fucking funny.

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>All they've done is like they've gone, mister Malcolvich is

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 1>here to see you, and they've gone, what don't keep

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:27.319
<v Speaker 1>him waiting? Yeah?

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Sorry about the content reception.

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:34.399
<v Speaker 1>I do love when they go in and he just accepted, Yeah, sure,

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>let's make a few calls.

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not an actor anymore. I'm a puppeteer. Yeah, okay, great.

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I also set up early that puppeteering is

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a thing without these the great mantein.

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the Great Mantini's like logo with his hand

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 2>is really funny. I really liked that.

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 1>So all the little details I add like the video

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 1>that we listened to early about the seven and a

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:02.280
<v Speaker 1>half floor and the it's a sixty minute style story

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:04.320
<v Speaker 1>that goes ahead and that's when we see, yeah, you

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Brad Pitts and Sean Penn's all those little details are

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 1>so well done.

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so it's so funny.

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>It's so good.

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 2>And at the end of it, where they're talking, where

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:16.880
<v Speaker 2>they're like talking about Maxine withdrawing from him, they're just

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 2>saying these personal things that they would not know, and

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 2>he's just watching it and he's like, Okay, it's finished,

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Like it's really really, really absurd and really funny.

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Did you know do you ever know where it was going?

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever kind of have a hope that you

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 1>hope this happened or that happened, or do you just no?

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean I kind of had no idea. I wanted

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 2>the girl to get together, and that was all I wanted.

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 2>And I just hated that guy, the JOHNK He said,

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:43.760
<v Speaker 2>what was his name, I don't remember his name.

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>But I Craig Schwartz.

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Craig Schwartz. Yeah, I hated him. And I was worried

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 2>about the chimpanzee, and other than that, I've just along

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 2>for the ride. Like I was just like, yeah, let's go,

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 2>let's see what happens. I still don't really understand how

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 2>so many people are inside of John Malkovitt and they

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:03.879
<v Speaker 2>lived for a long time, but like, yeah, let's let's

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 2>absolutely go. And then I guess the guy is in

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 2>charge because he's married his receptionist that he loves. You

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:11.240
<v Speaker 2>can't understand.

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Him, can listen of the speech issues first come out?

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 7>Damn fine, woman Flores. I don't know how she puts

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 7>up with a speech impediment of mind.

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:27.320
<v Speaker 5>You don't have a speech impediment, doctor, lest.

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 7>Flattery, We'll get you everywhere, my boy, I'm afraid I

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 7>have to trust Flores on that one. She's got her

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 7>doctorate in speech impedimentology from Case Western. I apologize if

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 7>you can't understand the word I'm saying.

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 3>No, I understand perfectly.

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 7>It's very kind of a lie, lonely and my isolated

0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 7>tower of indecipherable speech.

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome being playing Lest. He's so.

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 2>It's so good, and it's she's so funny because that's

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:05.360
<v Speaker 2>the first time I've said I think that's the first

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 2>of that joke, because you see that joke all the time.

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 2>But it was the first time, and it felt so

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 2>contemporary for just this woman to be like, I have

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:15.479
<v Speaker 2>no idea what you're saying. Yeah, and he's speaking so clearly,

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:18.840
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, I can't hear it's a thing you're saying,

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Like this could be a sketch today.

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So clearly it felt like for me because I

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 1>saw this when it came out and ceter In fact,

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I saw a preview of it in the same week.

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, Yes, I saw it in the same week.

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I saw American Beauty in both both in nineteen.

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 1>One of the great movie ins cling Intentions, The Matrix Magnolia.

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, Sich sense.

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:49.439
<v Speaker 2>Fu ninety ninety nine was so good.

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Ninety nine. There's a book I've got called ninety nine

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:55.799
<v Speaker 1>nine best movie year ever. It is extraordinary, extraordinary. Yeah,

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.359
<v Speaker 1>I think they witch really Fantom Menace, which he has

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 1>its own little place in history.

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Star Wars fans, there is nothing that Star Wars fans

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:06.360
<v Speaker 2>hate more than Star Wars.

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 1>God, I love any Star Wars you can give me.

0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:12.759
<v Speaker 1>If you're a Star Wars fan who gets upset about

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Star Wars, maybe something to move on.

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you don't like Star Wars exactly.

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you've grown out of it. Shut up, shut up.

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I agree so hard with the vessel. There was the

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 1>only time where I was like, I don't quite and

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I got to the same points. And I've probably seen

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 1>his half a dozen times. We're going to go on,

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't care.

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't care, I don't care. It's fine.

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if I'm going to go through the fact there

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:41.840
<v Speaker 1>is a portal. Yeah, I can believe that there's a

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 1>group of people who are just and all of these

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 1>there's a group of people who are trying to live forever.

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:47.799
<v Speaker 1>John Malgovic is Noah's ark.

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I'm happy to suspend my disbelief for that.

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense to.

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Me, It makes absolute sense.

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 2>I loved it. I loved it, and it didn't hit

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 2>us over the head. You know the way that filmmaking

0:44:57.040 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 2>works now. And I just did this like screenwriting thing

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 2>with Screenustralia in New York and was working with all

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:04.759
<v Speaker 2>these amazing screenwriters and you know, writing things myself and

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 2>getting things, trying to get things made, and everyone just

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.360
<v Speaker 2>keeps saying it has to be second screenable, so you

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 2>have to keep pointing to things. And I noticed this

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 2>in the substance. Have you seen Substance?

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:15.399
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:17.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oh it's great, But there's just so many things

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:22.920
<v Speaker 2>that she reads the instructions, and then we just keep

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 2>seeing flashbacks of the instructions, and I was like, if

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:27.920
<v Speaker 2>this movie was made twenty years ago, we would not

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 2>need to see these But because of the second screen

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:33.759
<v Speaker 2>of everything, which literally means, can you understand this film

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 2>if you have a second screen in your hand?

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Right to ask, I thought you meant like to watch

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:39.919
<v Speaker 1>it the second time.

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 2>No, it means your audience will be on their phone,

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 2>so you have to tell them everything way more. You

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 2>have to be so clear. It has to be so clear,

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 2>and I hate it. It's I think it's going to

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 2>ruin filmmaking, like it really and TV for a while,

0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 2>and then we'll go back, you know. I think it's

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 2>a it'll be a misstep that we we take and

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 2>then we'll move away from it. And there will always

0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:05.160
<v Speaker 2>be people who don't bend to that. But for people

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 2>like us, it's like, Okay, sure, I'll put in a

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 2>little scene where she remembers the thing again, even though

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 2>we've seen that scene and it feels so naff and

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:18.080
<v Speaker 2>so cliche. But like they need it.

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:21.360
<v Speaker 1>That is so awful, because who are we making films for?

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 6>On?

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 7>Now?

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Are we making films for the distracted? And what? Yeah?

0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Where do people go who want to watch an invest

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 1>in the film? Now, I admit sometimes, oh, you know,

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 1>I've gone to the habit. Sometimes I've had my phone

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:38.360
<v Speaker 1>on me when I'm watching films at home. But I

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>still I get to the cinema enough.

0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 2>I would never have my phone on in the cinema, no, exactly,

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:45.319
<v Speaker 2>So I don't really do it at home either. I

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:47.000
<v Speaker 2>try to just put it, put it in the kitchen

0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 2>and just sit down. Yeah, no one needs me now,

0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:51.400
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be fine.

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:53.799
<v Speaker 1>It's something I'm trying to work on of having my

0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:57.360
<v Speaker 1>phone just away from me. And when I'm doing this podcast,

0:46:57.680 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 1>usually I watched the film as a without the phone

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 1>just wash over me, and I'll watch it again with

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the phone and I might be writing notes and I

0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:07.680
<v Speaker 1>might be writing observations and all of that. So, yes,

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>that is horrifying encouraged. Yeah, I mean being John Macavich

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 1>is such a funnies because after this came out, everyone

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:17.840
<v Speaker 1>was trying to go become Charlie Kauffman. Everyone like you

0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:21.160
<v Speaker 1>imagine everyone going, well, let's let's not follow the rules. Yeah,

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 1>And I remember I went to a McGee McGee McKee

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 1>conference and he was saying, you're saying this. He goes,

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you need to know the rules before you can break

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 1>the rules.

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:35.279
<v Speaker 2>This is after or before adaptation.

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:38.480
<v Speaker 1>This is around the time. Weird because Brian Cox flays

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 1>in adaptation, and he goes, Charlie Coffin, do not have

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 1>a shred of doubt. He knows the rules inside out

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:45.480
<v Speaker 1>for him to break the rules.

0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:47.320
<v Speaker 2>I think that's true, and I think that that's something

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:49.320
<v Speaker 2>that's really interesting. Sorry to interrupt you there, but I

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:51.880
<v Speaker 2>think I find a lot of like young comedians will

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 2>say to me like, can you help me with my show?

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to do that. I'm like, yeah, I'd love

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 2>to help you. My first note is always go and

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 2>see as much as you can, not just comedy theater, art,

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Go see films, Go see all of these things you're

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 2>writing about this issue, Go read these books like this

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 2>is what you want to be looking at. And they'll go, oh,

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't really want to like do the stuff that's

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 2>been done before. And I'll go that's great. I can't

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 2>actually help you if you're not interested in this, I

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 2>actually can't help you because you can't just enter in

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:24.319
<v Speaker 2>and think that you're going to be able to do

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:27.319
<v Speaker 2>this and be really clever. The reason this is really

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:30.839
<v Speaker 2>clever is because it's come from a place of going, Okay, well,

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:32.840
<v Speaker 2>this is how we normally do it. What if we xyz?

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:36.279
<v Speaker 2>It's like you you don't get into a car and

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:39.799
<v Speaker 2>not know what the steering wheel is. Like you might

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 2>want to design a new car, but you probably need

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:45.239
<v Speaker 2>to know about an engine. Yes, you just need to

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 2>know about storytelling, and people just kind of don't.

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:53.319
<v Speaker 1>And it's so important. I think to be a consumer

0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and be an audience member, and you know, I love

0:48:57.680 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 1>going to see other shows and whether it be comedy

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:04.879
<v Speaker 1>or you know. And this reminds myself the feeling of

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:07.880
<v Speaker 1>walking in to the you know, and I consider my

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:10.480
<v Speaker 1>music my house music that I'm playing before the show, like.

0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. Yeah, when people when people just so

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:15.399
<v Speaker 2>clearly have not considered it, I'm just like, you didn't

0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:17.520
<v Speaker 2>give a fuck about how I feel at all. Five

0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:18.760
<v Speaker 2>I paid thirty bucks.

0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:21.399
<v Speaker 1>My favorite story goes back many many years. I'm sure

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:25.399
<v Speaker 1>he's changed now. But my good friend Dave Hughes. It's

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:28.320
<v Speaker 1>before I started doing comedy and I was doing community

0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 1>radio and I interviewed him on community radio and he

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:34.520
<v Speaker 1>gave his mate, He's went the backstage room, which is

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 1>a sixty seat room at the town Hall in Melbourne,

0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 1>and he said, may, if you want to bring some

0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:42.960
<v Speaker 1>friends in line, may I've got plenty of seats, bring

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 1>some giveaway tickets. So I did a bit of that

0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:46.799
<v Speaker 1>and I saw him at in the Peter Cook Bar

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:49.880
<v Speaker 1>afterwards and I said, Ah, the house music or the

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:52.040
<v Speaker 1>music he's walk on music was don't Dream It's over

0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:56.920
<v Speaker 1>by crowded house. I said, it was an interesting, you know,

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 1>song selection to walk onto like it was. I thought

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 1>there might have been like a theme for the show

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 1>or somebody gets nah. It was the only tape I

0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 1>had in the car.

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:14.280
<v Speaker 2>The only tape I had in the car. Wow, that's

0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 2>really really sure.

0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:18.279
<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm sure he's changed his attitude, was it?

0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:20.400
<v Speaker 2>But I think he has now. I mean, I think

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:22.080
<v Speaker 2>he's somebody who really does the work.

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Which is no doubt about that. But I now I

0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:28.720
<v Speaker 1>I will consider the volume that I want the music,

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 1>playing the songs thematically how and it might not be

0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, obvious to anyone, anyone in the audience, but

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:38.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I know the reasons I'm playing these songs. Yeah,

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and just also it reminds you that when you're sitting

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:43.279
<v Speaker 1>in a room about to watch a comedy show that

0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you want to like it. You know, sometimes you are backstage,

0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna go this this credit they don't they're not

0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:51.319
<v Speaker 1>here for me, or they don't they're not you know,

0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 1>they've been dragged along or something. Yeah, your brain plays

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 1>this will trick on you that nobody who's there, who's

0:50:56.600 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 1>paid money that comes see actually wants to enjoy it.

0:50:58.719 --> 0:50:58.919
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:02.120
<v Speaker 1>No, you you sit in an audience and there might

0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 1>be you know, a very small percentage of people in

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 1>that audience who might have been you might not have

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 1>been their first choice, you know, like you know, their

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend won and they now they're there. But people are

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:16.360
<v Speaker 1>there to enjoy the show. So there's even those things

0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:18.279
<v Speaker 1>to remind yourself what it's like to be an audience member.

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I think is really important.

0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really important. I don't know, I don't. Yeah,

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I get really up in arms about that stuff. Go

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:27.600
<v Speaker 2>see things, Go.

0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 1>See things out there. One of the other things that

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I think makes this film win as well. Is the idea.

0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Obviously it's quite subversive and all that, but it's a

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:43.040
<v Speaker 1>very simple like we all have a fascination I guess

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 1>with celebrity, but also there's other people you know, and

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:49.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe now more than ever with with you know, social media,

0:51:49.280 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's not just celebrities, it's you know, there's

0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:55.799
<v Speaker 1>a new brand of celebrities with influences and Instagram and

0:51:56.360 --> 0:52:00.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like the idea that their life is better of

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 1>mine and if if only I could have that. Yeah,

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:06.919
<v Speaker 1>And it's no, yaf they're in Machovich's brain for fifteen minutes.

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.600
<v Speaker 1>That's not that's not a coincidence. If Andy Warhol spoke

0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:13.120
<v Speaker 1>about the fifte minutes. Yeah, I think you can have

0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:17.239
<v Speaker 1>a subversive in Vernakoma's weird idea, but I still think

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:21.799
<v Speaker 1>it needs to have a thread of logic, yeah, behind it.

0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 2>And I think and it's about something, it's.

0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:26.960
<v Speaker 1>About something exactly, And I think I think this is

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:29.719
<v Speaker 1>about something. I think it's about you know, people's that

0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:32.200
<v Speaker 1>they're not enough and they want to be something more.

0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's just yeah, and the

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:39.200
<v Speaker 2>only people who end up happy really in the end

0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 2>of the the people who just go, Okay, well this

0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:45.080
<v Speaker 2>is who we are, and then they have this daughter

0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:49.279
<v Speaker 2>together and they're like this nice couple and it's so lovely. Yeah,

0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:51.400
<v Speaker 2>it's like, yeah, just be yourself.

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so lovely and kind of like you know when

0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Cameron Diaz Lottie first goes in and she you know,

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:00.799
<v Speaker 1>she talks about maybe being or she.

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Got the language even is like, oh, this is fine,

0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Like this is somehow fine.

0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I was watching going, oh, is this a bit that

0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I forgot? That's going to be a bit like oh

0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:14.319
<v Speaker 1>twenty five years later, but it's like respects Chelia Kaufman like, ye,

0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing to my years at least, and.

0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:19.919
<v Speaker 2>You know, to mine, and you know, as a youth,

0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I my years prick up. Yeah yeah, yeh, you know

0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:25.200
<v Speaker 2>you do you go, oh it's the nineties. But I

0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:28.600
<v Speaker 2>didn't find you know, I think instead of saying I

0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:31.960
<v Speaker 2>think I'm transsexual, she said I'm a transsexual. But that

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:33.840
<v Speaker 2>was it, and she's just like I'm going to go

0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:35.839
<v Speaker 2>talk to the doctor about it. And then the other

0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:38.719
<v Speaker 2>girl was like, don't leave, you know, let let her

0:53:38.719 --> 0:53:42.800
<v Speaker 2>do it. Sorry him, Like it's so nice. It's really

0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:44.799
<v Speaker 2>lovely the way they approach it and then she's like, oh,

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:47.080
<v Speaker 2>it's not that I'm just gay, but like, yeah, I was.

0:53:47.040 --> 0:53:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Lovely but yeah, because even then it's like, yeah, she's

0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:53.239
<v Speaker 1>just figuring, she's she's been, you know, she's had this

0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:56.919
<v Speaker 1>new experience and she's now questioning things and yeah, yeah,

0:53:57.280 --> 0:54:00.319
<v Speaker 1>curious and experimenting, and that's that's part of the jour you.

0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Know, exactly, lovely, so good.

0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's been a little bit of Maxine. I do

0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:08.680
<v Speaker 1>like Maxine. And one of the things again, John cuzx

0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Haarator Craig is so unlikable. It's weird when he's married

0:54:12.400 --> 0:54:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden he's asking this woman on

0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the date on basically his first day in the which

0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:20.160
<v Speaker 1>is kind of creepy and weird. She goes along, Yeah,

0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:22.399
<v Speaker 1>she goes along with it, which is you do kind

0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 1>of go not exactly sure why you would go along.

0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:26.800
<v Speaker 2>With it, But at the same time she's morally so dubious,

0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:27.759
<v Speaker 2>but she behaves like a man.

0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly. Let's have listened to the asking of the date.

0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:34.719
<v Speaker 5>Hi, do you know that I don't even know your

0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 5>name or where you work?

0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:44.080
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, okay, how about this if I can guess your

0:54:44.160 --> 0:54:45.000
<v Speaker 7>name at three tries.

0:54:45.160 --> 0:54:46.680
<v Speaker 5>You have to come have a drink with me tonight?

0:54:49.360 --> 0:54:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Why not?

0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay if you look like a.

0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:26.600
<v Speaker 5>Bad call the shell? Who mar seen Macine?

0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Who told you?

0:55:29.600 --> 0:55:33.359
<v Speaker 5>Nobody told me? Came out? Don't you think that? Isn't

0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:33.920
<v Speaker 5>that odd?

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I love I love it something because you know he's

0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:39.440
<v Speaker 1>just playing all those tricks are going. Can you believe

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:40.920
<v Speaker 1>that we don't I don't know your names?

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we've known for one day. I

0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:48.080
<v Speaker 2>also love I noticed it in this scene how the

0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:51.279
<v Speaker 2>space is not like as encroaching on her as it

0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:53.879
<v Speaker 2>is on him. Obviously he's taller than her, and she's

0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:56.480
<v Speaker 2>just kind of fine in the space, Like she's always

0:55:56.480 --> 0:55:59.399
<v Speaker 2>sort of sitting, she's always holding herself in a good way.

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:02.560
<v Speaker 2>She's like perched on something, and she doesn't look crouched.

0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:06.080
<v Speaker 2>He's always hunched over. And I think she's the only

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:10.280
<v Speaker 2>person who can exist in that space and not look crazy.

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:12.400
<v Speaker 1>That's a really good point because the same way that

0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:15.960
<v Speaker 1>he comes in and she's sitting on the floor, I

0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:18.520
<v Speaker 1>think there's having a smoke on the floor and yeah,

0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:20.920
<v Speaker 1>absolutely right, she never looks cramped. That's really Oh my god.

0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:23.200
<v Speaker 2>The scene where she comes over to their house for dinner,

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:25.200
<v Speaker 2>to Cameron Dias his house for dinner with him.

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Ash the ash.

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:32.719
<v Speaker 2>The cigarette is like just like four inches of ash.

0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:35.960
<v Speaker 1>It's incredible. It's like you do take out the takeout,

0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:38.239
<v Speaker 1>like was it just one take that they just that

0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:39.480
<v Speaker 1>was when they used.

0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:42.719
<v Speaker 2>It's so funny. Is it deliberate? What is it? I

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:45.080
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about it. I'm like, how did you

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<v Speaker 2>do that? How is it structurally? Staying up? I loved

0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:51.280
<v Speaker 2>it so much, but I sort.

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<v Speaker 1>To think the same thing. Is it deliberate? And then

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:57.399
<v Speaker 1>what does it mean? I we gotta talk about Charlie Sheen.

0:56:58.000 --> 0:57:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, John Melgovich, it was written as Kevin Bacon

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not sure I couldn't do it or yeah,

0:57:06.160 --> 0:57:09.640
<v Speaker 1>but John Malkovich suggested didn't know particularly well Charlie Sheen,

0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:12.360
<v Speaker 1>but suggested Charlie Sheen, which is a great fucking suggestion,

0:57:12.440 --> 0:57:17.240
<v Speaker 1>because again, the idea of making this about being John

0:57:17.280 --> 0:57:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Malkovich is brilliant. And what's even more brilliant that his

0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:21.280
<v Speaker 1>best friend is Charlie Sheen.

0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's like that's not his friend. That's funny

0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 2>that he didn't even know him that well. No, that's

0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:30.280
<v Speaker 2>really funny. I wonder what period of Charlie Sheen this was,

0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:31.000
<v Speaker 2>like what times?

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:36.640
<v Speaker 1>This is pre Tiger Blood? Yeah right, that was such

0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:40.360
<v Speaker 1>a weird. That was such a weird time Scott was

0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:45.720
<v Speaker 1>like hanging out with him. Yeah, weird Tiger Blood.

0:57:45.760 --> 0:57:48.800
<v Speaker 2>And he seems so harmless now thinking about the things

0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:53.200
<v Speaker 2>that we've seen, like a pre Trump presidency, Charlie Sheen

0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:55.480
<v Speaker 2>feels very like he felt dangerous and now it's like,

0:57:56.560 --> 0:57:57.280
<v Speaker 2>what's that you're doing?

0:57:57.600 --> 0:57:59.600
<v Speaker 1>What you say? I mean, you know, who knows what

0:58:00.760 --> 0:58:03.280
<v Speaker 1>you know might be come out and down the track,

0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:04.640
<v Speaker 1>but he seen true.

0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I actually don't know anything about this.

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:08.520
<v Speaker 1>But a lot of his stuff seem to be self

0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:13.840
<v Speaker 1>inflicted and you know, yeah, like battling with addiction and

0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and all of that. So we don't know, we don't know,

0:58:19.440 --> 0:58:24.160
<v Speaker 1>but I think we can safely, hopefully safely remove P

0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Diddy from the Charlie she conversation. They see me very

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:29.480
<v Speaker 1>different ends of the party.

0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Spectrum, Yeah, yeah, different.

0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:34.880
<v Speaker 1>But I do love the line when at the end

0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:38.760
<v Speaker 1>where he says about Malkovich invites him over and it's

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:43.920
<v Speaker 1>it's machine malcatraz and they talk about like getting in

0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:48.080
<v Speaker 1>on this vessel. Yeah, and he says you me, Gary Sonice.

0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe yeah, And it's as you know, details are so

0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:55.240
<v Speaker 1>can make something, you know, I joke work or not work,

0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:57.800
<v Speaker 1>or make it funny. And the word maybe is what's

0:58:57.800 --> 0:59:02.560
<v Speaker 1>so funny about that? Maybe because your brain kind of

0:59:02.560 --> 0:59:06.400
<v Speaker 1>tells this little story subconsciously that maybe Gary sneez the

0:59:06.480 --> 0:59:07.880
<v Speaker 1>might invite them, maybe they won't.

0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Invite maybe they'll let him die, let him die.

0:59:11.160 --> 0:59:12.800
<v Speaker 1>What you know, Gary Sneeze has some work to do.

0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I love it so much. The puppetry is so good.

0:59:17.040 --> 0:59:20.080
<v Speaker 2>The puppetry is beautiful. It's really beautiful. I'd like to

0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:20.720
<v Speaker 2>know who did it?

0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and that yeah, that it's such a funny.

0:59:23.480 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 1>You know when the early scenes is the street scene.

0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's just like scene and the little girls

0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:34.160
<v Speaker 2>watching it. The dad punches her and then punches him,

0:59:34.200 --> 0:59:36.200
<v Speaker 2>and then it's like a cut to her being like

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:43.680
<v Speaker 2>not again. Camantine has been like not again time my

0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:44.680
<v Speaker 2>dad's in the street.

0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:48.920
<v Speaker 1>It's such a perfect We've seen the artists who you know,

0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:53.680
<v Speaker 1>often the actors or screenwriters or comedians who be portrayed

0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:55.840
<v Speaker 1>before in pop culture where it's like no, I've got

0:59:55.880 --> 0:59:57.440
<v Speaker 1>my morals and I'm going to but the fact that

0:59:57.440 --> 1:00:00.640
<v Speaker 1>he's doing it with puppetry, which is already yeah, basically

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<v Speaker 1>career in it. But he still got no I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say things with my puppetry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's they won't let me tell my story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my own, my truth. My truth is so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I did love the scene that Lottie and when Loddy

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<v Speaker 1>gun Point takes Maxine through have you seen yeah? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had like very that felt like there's the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>scene where they're going through the subconscious of I think

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Carrey's character, which made me think of that. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so good, so good. Did you have any final

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts about the whole thing?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. I'm going to look at my notes,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like the only thing I wrote down

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<v Speaker 2>was sorry about the content reception. Yeah, I wrote sorry

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<v Speaker 2>about the content reception and eyes I cancered in the

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<v Speaker 2>audience of puppeteering.

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<v Speaker 1>That was I really do love that. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>say to sixty minutes. Speially, I'm not sure it was

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<v Speaker 1>sixty minutes. That whole sequence I thought was so was

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<v Speaker 1>so good, it was awesome. Were happy with the way

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<v Speaker 1>it ended like that, Craig is kind of like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Trapped, trapped inside the Little Girl. I'm worried about when

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<v Speaker 2>she turns forty four and all those people invade her.

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<v Speaker 2>But apart from that, there.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a fan theory that get Out the movie get

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<v Speaker 1>Out is like a sequel to Being John Malkovich, Oh God,

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<v Speaker 1>Katherin Keener Is is a connection, obviously, and Alison Williams

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<v Speaker 1>is the grown up Emily. I think her name is

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<v Speaker 1>of the Girl. And because it feels, obviously with people

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<v Speaker 1>being trapped in the saken place, self conscious, so Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>people have said he certainly he wasn't on his mind,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's happy for people to have fun with that theory.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a few Seinfeld characters as well in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Litman is one of them. But also I did kind

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<v Speaker 1>of feel like it had a Seinfeld vibe in that

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<v Speaker 1>Katherine Keith Maxine you could almost see us as Elaine.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Lottie could almost be Kramer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, her animals, animals. You know, she's so absurd, she's

1:02:03.600 --> 1:02:04.400
<v Speaker 2>so surprising.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this is a time when you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>was a surprising turn for Cameron Diaz, like she was

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<v Speaker 1>still making you know, there's something at Merry and like

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<v Speaker 1>big kind of comedies and she was always beautiful to

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<v Speaker 1>be in this weird film. Yeah, and you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was respect the Cameron Diaz.

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<v Speaker 2>She's great. I adore Cameron.

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<v Speaker 1>She's When we did Rove Live, one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>really really big episodes, it was one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>episode we've done. The date was when Charlie's Angels came out.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And they kind of played I think we're doing like

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity charades or we had like a regular segment that

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<v Speaker 1>we would do and they came. They played there for

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<v Speaker 1>an interview and they were there. They were there to

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<v Speaker 1>have fun. You know. They drinking backstage is a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of that if.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't Australia. You're like doing media in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just remember I remember them all being really cool,

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<v Speaker 1>but it maybe particularly Camardya has been particularly cool. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always just thought she seems to have a really

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<v Speaker 1>good head on those shoulders. Yeah, business and perspective.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's just funny and she's smart. Yeah, love her.

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<v Speaker 1>Go on, Tor Camrady, as you came to come on this, gee,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you get a chance. Michelle Barrasier. It's a shame

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<v Speaker 1>we won't be friends next year.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a shame.

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<v Speaker 1>Page I know if you didn't listen to the introduction

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<v Speaker 1>that came out of the blue. That is your comedy

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<v Speaker 1>festival show, which is on sale now or about to

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<v Speaker 1>go on sale. Yeah, so is there anything you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell us about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's actually about so in nineteen ninety nine, this

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<v Speaker 2>little boy said to me he was my friend. His

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<v Speaker 2>name is Ashley, and he said, it's a shame we

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<v Speaker 2>won't be friends next year. And I said, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to the same high school. Actually I think we'll be friends.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was like, I don't think people will like

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<v Speaker 2>you at high school. And I've never forgotten it. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's about the things that people say about us that

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<v Speaker 2>we've never forgotten and then what we carry through our

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<v Speaker 2>lives with that. So I'm going to like talk to

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<v Speaker 2>the audience about their stuff. But also I've like tracked

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<v Speaker 2>I've tracked him down and asked him what he meant.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what it's about.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Yeah, will he comes here to show?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I tracked him down and he lives in Holland, moving.

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<v Speaker 1>Holand next year. That's that. That is, That is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're traveling all around.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume, yes, traveling all around. I'm doing the malt

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<v Speaker 2>House in Melbourne, I'm doing somewhere in Sydney. I'm doing Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Fringe,

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<v Speaker 2>all the big ones. I think I'm coming everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, this year fantastic. And so he should beg steal

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<v Speaker 1>then steal a ticket. Actually, just pay for a ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>Pay for ticket, pay for a ticket, pay for a ticket,

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<v Speaker 2>or borrow. I mean you can beg, you can borrow,

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<v Speaker 2>you can borrow a ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, there's got to be a cash transaction at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to need to recoup, yes, okay, because I

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<v Speaker 2>value my work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, okay, congratulations. Oh my brothers Ashes are in

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<v Speaker 1>a sandwich.

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<v Speaker 2>Bay for everyone for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas coming up, extraordinary things you've dealt with, dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>and you do. It's such great humor and average Bear

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<v Speaker 1>is on Paramount plus two, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just moved to ABC. I view it free.

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<v Speaker 1>Its even easier.

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<v Speaker 2>It's for free.

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<v Speaker 1>I said in the intro. It's one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>shows I've seen ever. I think it was it Blew

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<v Speaker 1>Me Away a few years ago and if you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen Average Bear, check it out. Mate. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for it. Finally we worked, we worked out.

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<v Speaker 2>Our schedules, and thank you so much for recommending the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad I said I was confidable.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know, you never know.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen Adaptation, haven't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way that I've always wondered, Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little scene in Adaptation where it's behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been John Malkovich, ye, and you have Nick Cage

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<v Speaker 1>kind of behind the camp And I've always thought, did

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<v Speaker 1>they take footage of that from the actual shooting and

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<v Speaker 1>then and repurpose it? But they re shot it. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a whole new sequence there. So must have come

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<v Speaker 1>on to reshoot because it's the Malcovich Malkovich Malcovich and

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<v Speaker 1>so good on. John Malkovich are coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's amazing doing a solid for Spike.

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<v Speaker 1>Jones and Charlie Kaufman. Yeah. Wow, But more films like this, please, Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 1>More films like this. Michelle Brazier, thank you very.

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<v Speaker 2>Much, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go, Michelle Brazier, fantastic. I loved chatting to

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle about being John Malkovich. It seemed like a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>fit hack because you had not seen the film. It

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<v Speaker 1>surprised me, it shocked me. But here we are. Ladies

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<v Speaker 1>a great man. Next week on the podcast, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>check the Maggie Luke, who is a writer, a comedian, performer.

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<v Speaker 1>Maggie's great. I've worked with her on the project. She

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<v Speaker 1>writes on of your favorite TV shows from Guy Montgomery

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<v Speaker 1>She's awesome. She's also a live performer, comedian, and she's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna tackle this could be another mind bending one,

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<v Speaker 1>even more mind bending than this week. I suspect mulhulland

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<v Speaker 1>drive by David Lynch. Oh my God, help us, help us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be fun next week. And you ain't see

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<v Speaker 1>nothing yet. Maggie Luke with my hulland drive until then

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<v Speaker 1>by for an hour, and so we leave Old Pete

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<v Speaker 1>save fan sal And to our friends of the radio audience,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been a pleasant

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