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Speaker 1: welcome back to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. This is
Speaker 1: the podcast for ordinary people who want to do extraordinary things,
Speaker 1: completely leaning into uncertainty, completely surrendering and completely going.
Speaker 2: I'm ready for the mystery. Are you excited?
Speaker 3: I'm excited for you, but I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 3: if I could do that myself yet.
Speaker 1: Hello guys, and welcome back to the Rise and Conker Podcast.
Speaker 1: It is your host, Georgie Stevenson, lawyer turned entrepreneur, business owner,
Speaker 1: new mum all the things. Today's episode we are chatting
Speaker 1: about something that makes my inner control freak get a
Speaker 1: bit crazy, and that's uncertainty. Oh thanks for those sound
Speaker 1: effects here.
Speaker 2: Ps.
Speaker 1: Guys, I hope you're all getting ready for your last
Speaker 1: day of work or I hope you finished and ready
Speaker 1: for the best Christmas festive holiday ever.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Merry Christmas Eve.
Speaker 2: Eve and Happy Holidays.
Speaker 1: Yes, but I was so Jehovah's witness, Like we couldn't
Speaker 1: say Mary Christmas, so.
Speaker 2: Just like happy are you similar? Like or do you
Speaker 2: say Mary Christmas?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I just say because everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people celebrate it, so I'm open to celebrating with them,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. Yeah, So sorry, back to it.
Speaker 1: So, guys, I've mentioned this in a previous episode, but
Speaker 1: this episode's all about uncertainty, and I've done a lot
Speaker 1: of inner work to prepare for next year and it
Speaker 1: is completely different to anything I've ever done before.
Speaker 2: Obviously, I'm gonna fully get into it in the.
Speaker 1: Episode, but basically, for the first time, I am not
Speaker 1: planning my whole year. I am leaning into uncertainty, leaning
Speaker 1: into mystery, and kind of not filling up my year.
Speaker 2: So there is spaces for the universe to like do its.
Speaker 1: Thing, and I'm having full, full body fucking trust. I'm
Speaker 1: go excited and it's like I finally feel excited about this.
Speaker 1: But this is something if you're a control freak or
Speaker 1: if you're just you're a planner, you like to know
Speaker 1: how things go so human of us. This episode is
Speaker 1: probably going to grind you the wrong way, but listen,
Speaker 1: just have a listen, see how you feel. Because I'm
Speaker 1: really really excited for this new year and this kind
Speaker 1: of new leaning into uncertainty and really looking at things
Speaker 1: differently and then what is going to happen.
Speaker 2: Because of that. But because this is our last recording
Speaker 2: session for the year, I do want to let you
Speaker 2: guys know we do have two epps coming over the holiday,
Speaker 2: not two EPs. Sorry, EPs.
Speaker 1: We've got all the Epps we have pre planned for you,
Speaker 1: so don't worry.
Speaker 2: There's going to be episodes. Look a Tea has been
Speaker 2: slaving away.
Speaker 1: She's been working a little butt off for you guys
Speaker 1: to have content, so please listen. But no, we've got
Speaker 1: some fun epps happening over the festive season, so look
Speaker 1: out on your potty feed.
Speaker 2: And there's a.
Speaker 1: Couple of different ones too, so I hope you guys
Speaker 1: enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: But before we get into today's episode, a tear recommendations.
Speaker 3: I'm going so rogue because it's the holidays and we're
Speaker 3: not doing recommendations for a while. So I've got two yeah.
Speaker 2: And I'm just reiterating the avatar the way of the water. Yes,
Speaker 2: you said that, but.
Speaker 3: Then my actual two recommendations are, so you've got three. Yeah, interesting,
Speaker 3: have an epsom salt bath. I has this come from.
Speaker 3: I wasn't feeling great on Monday and my legs are
Speaker 3: really sore, and then I went home and I had
Speaker 3: an epsom salt bath and I've never felt better. Genuinely
Speaker 3: thought I was getting sick. And then now i'm.
Speaker 2: Chip is a bird? Is that the fray? Chip is
Speaker 2: a bird? I don't know. I don't think so, but anyway,
Speaker 2: I know what you mean. Yeah, I haven't done one
Speaker 2: in years. Yeah, I needed to.
Speaker 3: Do them, though I can't remember when I stopped, and
Speaker 3: I never I've never done one with the epsom salts
Speaker 3: from the pharmacy. I used to use the ccentered ones,
Speaker 3: but these ones were like magnesium epsom salts, and I
Speaker 3: just felt amazing love. So that's my one recommendation.
Speaker 2: You know what it did? It probably like cleared a
Speaker 2: lot of like gross energy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, that's exactly how I felt after, and
Speaker 3: just like very relaxed.
Speaker 2: And at peace. Magnesium would have really got you in
Speaker 2: that ste Yeah, that's.
Speaker 3: Pretty good and then my second one. I've recently discovered
Speaker 3: that not everyone who's watched the National Treasure franchise. You're
Speaker 3: looking at me like you have it. It's got Nicholas
Speaker 3: Cage in it. Oh, yes, you've seen them. They're like
Speaker 3: Treasure Hunt movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I've only seen the first couple.
Speaker 2: There's two, there's only two. Yeah, I seen them.
Speaker 3: That's my recommendation. There's also a theories part of it
Speaker 3: that just came out on Disney Plus, which is pretty good.
Speaker 3: But yeah, my recommendation is those two movies. Okay, they're
Speaker 3: quite old, aren't they. They are very old, but they're
Speaker 3: just so good. What's his name, Nicholas Cage. Yeah, I enjoy.
Speaker 2: Him me too.
Speaker 3: It's pretty What are your recommendations?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me give you a couple.
Speaker 1: So we've already given the Megan and Harry we loved, Yes,
Speaker 1: tick that off the liss Oh okay, very excited. I
Speaker 1: absolutely consumed this. I just finish The White Lotus on Binch. Oh.
Speaker 2: I have you seen season one? I haven't, but OD
Speaker 2: said I needed to watch it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you would love it a tear. It's
Speaker 1: it's kind of so season one and season two, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't actually need to watch season one first because they're different.
Speaker 2: They're different stories. Yeah, they're different stories, so it doesn't
Speaker 2: actually matter. It's so interesting.
Speaker 1: It's almost odd, like it's a very they just do
Speaker 1: things differently, Like I find moments where in other TV
Speaker 1: shows like it would just chop and go to someone else,
Speaker 1: but it's like it lingers, and there's lots of music,
Speaker 1: and there's lots of like not dramatics, but what's that
Speaker 1: kind of word. There's lots of like, yeah, maybe dramatics.
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of drama. Like everything is like
Speaker 1: emphasized with the music and the.
Speaker 2: Like in the production of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the b roll production. Yeah, production wise, I
Speaker 1: think you would appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I will watch it. There's a lot to it, and.
Speaker 1: Just like the storyline, it's almost very real, very real,
Speaker 1: real scenarios that's like not a lot of people would
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I remember thinking that in season one. Season
Speaker 2: two is almost like a bit more I don't want
Speaker 2: to say un realistic because this is what I mean.
Speaker 1: Who knows, but it's so interesting. So concept they go
Speaker 1: to So White Lotus is a hotel. So the first
Speaker 1: season's like Maui, and then the second season sicily.
Speaker 3: Apparently the third one's gonna be filmed here. Oh, I
Speaker 3: would love to film I'd love.
Speaker 2: To be in it. Should I become an actor, you'd
Speaker 2: love to film it? I'd love to film it. I'm joking.
Speaker 1: But anyway, So they go to a hotel and then
Speaker 1: you follow and it's only seven days, so there's only
Speaker 1: seven episodes an episode of day, but you follow like
Speaker 1: what each family or people are doing, and it's just
Speaker 1: so interesting because some overlap, some don't. They've got fucking
Speaker 1: shit going on. And I fucking love theo James. Oh
Speaker 1: me too, I'm obsessed with him.
Speaker 2: Did you watch Divergent? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was fucking obsessed with that show, like literally
Speaker 1: obsessed with him. He would be my whole buzz really, yes, wow,
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with him. I don't love his character in
Speaker 1: this season, but he plays it so well.
Speaker 2: Oh I love that.
Speaker 1: Any of the res guys just fucking take a break.
Speaker 2: It's my recommendation.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling so ready for the holidays, and in that though,
Speaker 1: it's because we are completely prepping so we can all
Speaker 1: actually take a break.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: So a big thing I want to do of these
Speaker 1: holidays is like, actually not be on my phone. If
Speaker 1: I jump on my stories to you guys, fucking tell
Speaker 1: me to get off, because.
Speaker 2: No, I actually just love doing that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm just like I really want to, like
Speaker 1: I want to have days where I put my phone
Speaker 1: in a draw, no phone days, yeah, and like really
Speaker 1: shut off and really be present. And I'm just like
Speaker 1: really craving that time.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's my recommendation. Was a bit of a
Speaker 2: red your phone. Yeah, I might do it. No phone
Speaker 2: day on the holidays, just one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you can do any more than
Speaker 1: And I'm excited for like we're not going away, but
Speaker 1: we're just like I want to do adventurous stuff, cute.
Speaker 2: We want to go to the.
Speaker 1: Beach and like go to rock pools and go to
Speaker 1: the hinterland and just like do stuff like that with
Speaker 1: Ivy and Tim.
Speaker 2: Oh, and also catch up with like girlfriends because I've
Speaker 2: been neglecting them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, in that, let's get into the show. Well, let's
Speaker 1: chat uncertainty and surrender, because these are I feel like
Speaker 1: everyone struggles with this. Do you struggle with this?
Speaker 3: A tear? Yes, But apparently I've been told them a
Speaker 3: control freaks.
Speaker 1: So look, we're much like I tend to like attract control.
Speaker 1: I think it's because they're really good at their job.
Speaker 1: Usually true, I'm fine with it unless literally, unless you're Tim.
Speaker 1: I feel like you would struggle with uncertainty and surrender.
Speaker 1: Tim is such a chill cucumber that he's like absolutely
Speaker 1: embraces it, and that's his vibe. But if you're a
Speaker 1: normal person like me and a tea and everyone else,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you you could do with surrendering and really
Speaker 1: welcoming mystery. And that's how I want to kind of
Speaker 1: turn uncertainty and like, really, because uncertainty straight away, I'm
Speaker 1: like negative feelings. I get triggered. I literally I am triggered,
Speaker 1: bringing on trauma, hyperventilate exactly. But it's like, what if
Speaker 1: we saw uncertainty as like beautiful mystery.
Speaker 2: And like magic.
Speaker 1: I think Disney movies vibe.
Speaker 2: So, guys, the whole reason.
Speaker 1: This topic has come up that I really want to
Speaker 1: just do a good old reef and rant on it
Speaker 1: is because a couple of weeks back, I went on
Speaker 1: a one night actually it was two nights away to
Speaker 1: Crystal Book Byron Bay, which was beautiful, and the first
Speaker 1: night I was by myself and I really just use
Speaker 1: that to like relax and unwind and really get to
Speaker 1: a place where I like felt like my nervous system
Speaker 1: could actually be like, Okay, I'm safe, I can chill
Speaker 1: the fuck out. And then the second night, my bestie
Speaker 1: joined me. And she has been my best friend fourteen years.
Speaker 1: So we've known each other since we were fourteen. And
Speaker 1: it's funny because we've both been on our own like
Speaker 1: self development journeys, but we've always done like at least
Speaker 1: an annual sleepover where we It hasn't always been planning
Speaker 1: like I'm sure there were a few nights out there for.
Speaker 2: A couple of years, but for the last couple.
Speaker 1: Of years, it's like an annual sleepover where we you know,
Speaker 1: look at our year and we chat about it and
Speaker 1: we plan our you know, next year. And so this
Speaker 1: this time we decided to really be bougie and go
Speaker 1: away and really get in the bike. Because she's a
Speaker 1: mom of two, I've obviously got ivy and it's a
Speaker 1: little bit hard to do that when you you know,
Speaker 1: got children and husbands around. So it was such an
Speaker 1: amazing thing. Highly recommend and so what we did is
Speaker 1: we actually went through so she wanted to go through
Speaker 1: the workbooks of the do It for Your Future Self.
Speaker 2: Course and how did you find them? Oh my god,
Speaker 2: like she's obsessed. She's like, this is amazing.
Speaker 1: And it was really cool because obviously the workbooks are
Speaker 1: already created, were already created. Sorry, but it was really
Speaker 1: good because I know we have gone through them and
Speaker 1: you know, really reviewed them and everything. But it was
Speaker 1: good because she was like my guinea pig, and I
Speaker 1: did tweak a couple of things. Oh so I love
Speaker 1: that made them even better and made sure like they're
Speaker 1: very impactful and kind of even reduce them a little
Speaker 1: bit so they're really like took the point and powerful,
Speaker 1: so you're not just like kind of going off on tangents.
Speaker 2: And so it's funny.
Speaker 1: We joked that we spoke for eight hours straight because
Speaker 1: she got there.
Speaker 2: And then you know, we went better. At nine pm.
Speaker 1: Bet we literally worked through the world book like talking ooh,
Speaker 1: I love that, and it was it was so helpful
Speaker 1: because it was like a soundboard because I would like say,
Speaker 1: you know, this is what I think, and then then
Speaker 1: this is what I want, and then she would be
Speaker 1: like oh that's interesting because blah blah blah, and we
Speaker 1: would go back and forth and like I do meet
Speaker 1: and then we'd do her and then we'd move on
Speaker 1: to the next workbook. So it was really really good,
Speaker 1: Like I had my little Google doc up and it
Speaker 1: was amazing. I just I feel so clear on next year.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because there's a full twist in this
Speaker 1: where next year is going to be the first year
Speaker 1: that it is not fully planned out, and yet I
Speaker 1: feel the most clear I ever have.
Speaker 4: Wow, And that's because I realize I fall into this
Speaker 4: trap where I don't like uncertainty.
Speaker 1: I don't like not feeling in control. So I almost,
Speaker 1: you know, I create this illusion where I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well I'm gonna plan out my whole year. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: know exactly what happens. And I cut myself short because
Speaker 1: I'm not letting the universe do its thing and I'm
Speaker 1: not surrendering, and I'm I guarantee you there would have
Speaker 1: been so many times when the universe is like, I've
Speaker 1: literally got something amazing right here ready for you. But
Speaker 1: because I am such a control freak and I'm so like, no,
Speaker 1: it's got to go this way.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like you're almost limiting yourself, yes, from
Speaker 3: anything else coming in, because.
Speaker 2: You've decided this is as far as it's going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is how it's gonna go. And in saying that,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm obviously super like high achievement the way
Speaker 1: of like I've achieved a lot and I have really
Speaker 1: big goals. So I've never picked this up of myself
Speaker 1: because like, I achieve what I want and I'm like, cool,
Speaker 1: take it off the list.
Speaker 2: But Sinder was the one who was.
Speaker 1: Like, I think you're seriously limiting your self because you
Speaker 1: are so controlling of your achievements. And I was like,
Speaker 1: did you just mind fucking yeah? And anyway, so that
Speaker 1: was like my huge aha moment was I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm really limiting myself because I try and control. And
Speaker 1: my big thing about next year is I'm not planning
Speaker 1: out the whole year. Of course, like you have to
Speaker 1: somewhat plan because we're humans and.
Speaker 2: They're running a lot of businesses. You have a child, of.
Speaker 1: Course, so like I am somewhat planned out, but the
Speaker 1: vibe that I'm bringing into the new year is completely
Speaker 1: leaning into uncertainty, completely surrendering and completely going.
Speaker 2: I'm ready for the mystery. Are you excited?
Speaker 3: I'm excited for you, But I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 3: if I could do that for myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well this is the interesting thing because old Georgie couldn't
Speaker 1: do this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and ten percent, So I really commitment.
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like this is my next level self.
Speaker 1: This is like my you know, new era of next level.
Speaker 1: Georgie is leaning into uncertainty, is surrendering because she knows
Speaker 1: what she's really like.
Speaker 2: Her big, big life.
Speaker 1: She literally cannot even imagine it, because that's what I
Speaker 1: said to Cinda. And I'm like, I'm really struggling to
Speaker 1: envision my next level because everything I have right now
Speaker 1: is everything I've wanted. Yeah, and I know I say
Speaker 1: that from a complete place of like privilege. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I might sound a bit privileged, but just in the
Speaker 1: way of like, I was really struggling with this whole
Speaker 1: I need to get clear, but I don't know what
Speaker 1: my next level looks like. I feel like I'm, you know,
Speaker 1: living my dream life. And I went back to my
Speaker 1: manifestation list at the start of you know, twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: and I've achieved everything I wanted, which is amazing, but
Speaker 1: I have been left with this feeling of like this
Speaker 1: year felt so frantic, frantic energy, crazy energy, and I
Speaker 1: really want to step out of that and step into
Speaker 1: I might even just read my journal for we want
Speaker 1: to get really intimate. So the vibes I want to
Speaker 1: bring into the next year is like freedom and flexibility
Speaker 1: and really stepping into my next level self that I'm
Speaker 1: yet too defined because it is so next level, if
Speaker 1: that makes sense, and I don't want to limit myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was the vibe, and like you know, the
Speaker 1: first work book is all about like auditing your year,
Speaker 1: so that was the biggest and that exercises are so
Speaker 1: powerful because I just I realized what I didn't want
Speaker 1: and so it's not about like being so clear on
Speaker 1: my goals. It's just like I don't want to feel
Speaker 1: like this. I want to feel like this, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to let the universe do it thing. So that's
Speaker 1: what brings me to chatting about uncertainty and surrender because
Speaker 1: it's it's funny because you know how things often play
Speaker 1: out are very I don't want to say random, but
Speaker 1: very like you can't foresee it, like you know, yeahn
Speaker 1: for instance, a tear like how.
Speaker 2: You got this job, or it's just happens.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it just happens and you cannot almost predict it.
Speaker 2: So isn't it so.
Speaker 1: Funny then that we constantly want to control it, and
Speaker 1: we constantly need an end, and we constantly.
Speaker 2: Need to know.
Speaker 1: Yet we have experienced and we know things happen in
Speaker 1: very unforeseen and often magical ways, but we like.
Speaker 2: We can't, we can't embrace that. It's I don't even
Speaker 2: know what to say.
Speaker 3: You're actually like over there, because it's like if you
Speaker 3: had asked me at the beginning of this year, if
Speaker 3: I was to have a new job, where would it be?
Speaker 3: I would never have ever in my life guessed that
Speaker 3: it would be here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like being on the show producer of the show,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, oh, but then you you know, you're saying
Speaker 1: you're a control freak. So that's what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: why can't you lean into the surrender?
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: It's right, you'll get that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get that.
Speaker 2: That'll be my goal for next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, leaning into surrender. We'll do it together. So
Speaker 1: I just I just think this concept is so so
Speaker 1: funny and like I said, that was like my AHA
Speaker 1: moment of this whole trip. And it is funny because
Speaker 1: Cinda did the exact same course and the exact same workbooks,
Speaker 1: but like that wasn't.
Speaker 2: Her AHA moment.
Speaker 1: We actually completely planned her year because she is needing
Speaker 1: a year of very masculine very This is my year
Speaker 1: because where she is at with her business and her life, right,
Speaker 1: So that's what I do want to like preface this
Speaker 1: with is even though this is my AHA moment and
Speaker 1: I'm sharing with you my wisdom, again, this is at
Speaker 1: my stage of my journey where Sinda, who she did
Speaker 1: say she does need to surrender a little bit, but
Speaker 1: she is a little bit upset where she almost was
Speaker 1: in her fem.
Speaker 2: Energy like she does.
Speaker 1: She has a seven month old, so this year was
Speaker 1: very kind of like let's go of the flow. Plus
Speaker 1: she does have businesses spit hers is more next year
Speaker 1: of implementing structure, of implementing more routine because she lacked it.
Speaker 2: This year, and then she can jump again back into
Speaker 2: her fem yeah.
Speaker 1: Because she almost needs that. Whereas I am so mask
Speaker 1: energy and I'm so structured and I'm so routine that
Speaker 1: I need to lean the other way so did want
Speaker 1: to preface that because also, like if you are doing
Speaker 1: the do it for your future self course, don't be
Speaker 1: alarmed if your year is very planned out and if
Speaker 1: you're in this very energy of like getting shit done
Speaker 1: and I know exactly what I want to achieve this year,
Speaker 1: because I think that also is very healthy. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: kind of it just depends where you're at.
Speaker 3: I feel like even if you plan a little bit
Speaker 3: less like visualize your entire year, but plan.
Speaker 2: Two months ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, And so even stuff like I went
Speaker 1: through her with this, like you know, creating a marketing
Speaker 1: calendar and like things too, because I said to her,
Speaker 1: if there is that tiny bit more structure in your business,
Speaker 1: you'll actually find that the energy is more fem energy
Speaker 1: in the day to day because you're not like scrambling
Speaker 1: around to like do things so last minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more prepared. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, that was off topic, So I just do want
Speaker 1: to preface that. But in saying that, like I said, Etia,
Speaker 1: I do truly believe everyone can lean into a bit
Speaker 1: of surrender, a bit of uncertainty, and like I've obviously
Speaker 1: I've got a couple of exercises for you to do
Speaker 1: in this episode.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I want.
Speaker 4: To practice that.
Speaker 1: So brains we very much we have this you know,
Speaker 1: logical process of I want this thing and I have
Speaker 1: this goal, and like I said, it's a very logical process.
Speaker 1: But it's like if you think about you know, manifestation
Speaker 1: and if you're into you know, what we believe about
Speaker 1: your big life and those sorts of things like that
Speaker 1: is quite frankly, quite supernatural. It's quite unexplainable because there
Speaker 1: is no way we can really like know what's coming
Speaker 1: in the future. There's just so many unpredictable like variables.
Speaker 1: So it just I think it's yeah, like interesting that
Speaker 1: as humans we hate uncertainty, whereas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's life.
Speaker 1: It is. It is life, and I know, like having
Speaker 1: a sturdy plan and knowing how it's all going to
Speaker 1: go almost films like, it feels grounding to us. It
Speaker 1: feels like, oh, I know I'm going to walk across
Speaker 1: this bridge and this will happen, and you know, I'm
Speaker 1: climbing up this corporate ladder and I will get married
Speaker 1: at this time and blah blah blah, and I know
Speaker 1: it feels.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it feels very safe to us.
Speaker 1: But the belief of it being a mystery and you know,
Speaker 1: surrendering and like letting the universe do its thing is
Speaker 1: very unsafe to us. But then I was thinking, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's just such a limiting belief, and that
Speaker 1: was like my whole thing of like I'm actually in
Speaker 1: this moment, in this next level self, like I am
Speaker 1: limiting myself if I do try and plan out next
Speaker 1: year to a tea if you know, like it is
Speaker 1: different if you have a clear, clear vision. But I
Speaker 1: don't have a clear, clear vision. And so I was
Speaker 1: tripping up and limiting myself of trying to create this
Speaker 1: clear clear vision instead of leaning into the feeling I
Speaker 1: want on the day to day, the feeling I want
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. And also then going, hey, Universe,
Speaker 1: I'm actually going to complete surrender, like I know You're
Speaker 1: going to bring me everything I need and want and
Speaker 1: I'm just going to sit here and enjoy life.
Speaker 2: And that's the vibe. I love it. Sorry.
Speaker 1: I want you guys to think through all the happy
Speaker 1: things that have come into your life, your favorite people,
Speaker 1: the most exciting opportunities, and be like did I ever
Speaker 1: see them coming?
Speaker 2: I want you to have a good think and.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, maybe they were on your vision board
Speaker 1: or maybe you did have affirmations and that that stuff
Speaker 1: is really really important, but often the details are very
Speaker 1: unseen and very magical and yeah, very like serendipitous and
Speaker 1: it turns out epic, and it's like, let's remember those
Speaker 1: experiences and let's lean into that and kind of like
Speaker 1: live in this place of trust and faith. I know
Speaker 1: it requires us to really release the need to know
Speaker 1: the how and to overthink it and to calculate it
Speaker 1: and to look for like shore fire answers that inheritedly
Speaker 1: is like this mystery that is like life. So a
Speaker 1: little activity that I thought could be helpful for you
Speaker 1: guys to kind of step into this you know, uncertainty
Speaker 1: and surrender.
Speaker 2: And lean into mystery. Inviting mystery, if you will.
Speaker 1: Is kind of like, you know, I think it's very
Speaker 1: important to have your to do list or you know,
Speaker 1: your schedules, but invite.
Speaker 2: Like this could literally be like a little.
Speaker 1: Prayer or like a little intention. And it's just like
Speaker 1: I invite mystery into my life. And use that word too,
Speaker 1: because I found when I was thinking of that word,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I love that word and it kind of
Speaker 1: reminds me because the other day and me personally, I
Speaker 1: kind of need a taste of things and then I
Speaker 1: can like run with it. Yeah, and so what kind
Speaker 1: of made me think of this is the other day.
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm very scheduled, you know, Ellie creates my schedule
Speaker 1: on a Friday, and I stick to it mostly Tea
Speaker 1: is like rolling your eyes because like I just swapped
Speaker 1: our meetings around like four times.
Speaker 2: But anyway, but.
Speaker 1: The other day, it was a beautiful day, and Tim
Speaker 1: text me and was like, let's go to the beach
Speaker 1: at lunch time. The day is perfect, Like let's take
Speaker 1: Ivy to the beach, get fish and chips, and then
Speaker 1: like literally come to the beach and like go.
Speaker 2: Back to work.
Speaker 1: And I am someone who previously would be like, no,
Speaker 1: I've got my schedule, I've got my things, I've got
Speaker 1: to lick, you know, do things in this order.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I like took a step back, and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, I work for myself. I can't actually leave
Speaker 1: the office and come back or just work from home,
Speaker 1: and I can you know, I obviously looked at my
Speaker 1: day and I was like I can easily swap these
Speaker 1: things around, like go to the beach. Yeah, And so
Speaker 1: I went to the beach with Tim and Ivy and
Speaker 1: it was such like so simple, so simple, and it
Speaker 1: was such a beautiful day, and I yeah, went to
Speaker 1: the beach with them. We heard fish and chips. Ivey
Speaker 1: had the best time. And then like we got home,
Speaker 1: she went down for a nap and I finished my
Speaker 1: work in the afternoon and I just worked from home
Speaker 1: and it was like so easy and nice, and I
Speaker 1: just I know old Georgie would have never said yes,
Speaker 1: because she's such a control freak and her day didn't
Speaker 1: have that in her schedule. Yeah, And so I love
Speaker 1: this idea now of like inviting mystery and being like,
Speaker 1: you know what, when things pop up and they feel
Speaker 1: right and they work, I'm gonna say yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then like I feel like the universe is like
Speaker 1: she's getting it. She's finally taken a fucking a good while,
Speaker 1: but she's getting it. And so I'd love for you guys,
Speaker 1: like if this is something you want to invite in
Speaker 1: your life, of like saying that, like you'll literally say
Speaker 1: to yourself, I'm inviting mystery into my life. And then
Speaker 1: like another thing you can do, because again I need
Speaker 1: evidence to then like keep manifesting things. And obviously my
Speaker 1: Tim and Ivy thing is but it's like at the
Speaker 1: end of the day or the week, like write down
Speaker 1: some miss It doesn't have to be mysterious, but write
Speaker 1: down some things that weren't in your schedule that happened
Speaker 1: that were good. So maybe like you know, Tim texting
Speaker 1: me and ask me going to the beach. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: you found like a random recommendation, because we love our recommendations,
Speaker 1: don't we it t here.
Speaker 2: I love our recommendations.
Speaker 1: Or maybe like last minute invitation from a friend or
Speaker 1: a new song you found, or a book recommendation, a
Speaker 1: meeting getting canceled, and then something else like filling its
Speaker 1: space and just like kind of relish in this like
Speaker 1: new and exciting things can come and they can feel
Speaker 1: easy and they like I don't need to know. I
Speaker 1: can sit in the unknown, and I can sit in
Speaker 1: the uncertainty and I can surrender.
Speaker 2: I just feel like it's a really beautiful.
Speaker 1: Exercise everyone can do actually going into a new year,
Speaker 1: and like the Christmas holidays, and I feel like you
Speaker 1: can sit in that vibe and it can be really
Speaker 1: fun and it's like let's have a bit more fun.
Speaker 2: I thought I'd never be saying that.
Speaker 1: I am someone who is quite serious, but.
Speaker 2: I like, I love this idea.
Speaker 1: I love this season of like Georgie's actually inviting mystery
Speaker 1: into her life.
Speaker 2: It's just been a bit fun.
Speaker 1: To spontain you, but spontaneous anyway. So that is my
Speaker 1: rant on uncertainty. Oh one more thing again, and this
Speaker 1: is I'll get a recommendation for you, rogue.
Speaker 2: We're so rogan. December. So, Atiya, did you watch.
Speaker 1: The Stalts documentary?
Speaker 3: I love?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so good.
Speaker 1: So Tim was watching it and he was halfway through
Speaker 1: and I made him like start it from the beginning
Speaker 1: because it was so interesting. But it's called I hope
Speaker 1: I'm not pronouncing it wrong.
Speaker 2: Stalts. It's Jonah Hill and therapist.
Speaker 1: Yeah yes, So it's made by Jonah Hill and his
Speaker 1: therapists called Starts. It's only an hour and like forty
Speaker 1: and something highly recommended on Netflix. And his therapist goes
Speaker 1: through a bunch of like therapy tools and mental health
Speaker 1: tools and it's such a good doco. But something in
Speaker 1: it that I really picked up and I loved is
Speaker 1: so staltz. The therapist explains there's three things humans must
Speaker 1: always go through and that you cannot avoid. And he
Speaker 1: said that is pain, uncertainty, and constantly doing the work,
Speaker 1: and I just thought, oh my god, so like on point,
Speaker 1: and it's so right, and they're like the things we
Speaker 1: hate the most.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like.
Speaker 1: The three things we've got to constantly go through. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, if we can obviously pain is like
Speaker 1: I don't really want to get used to that, but
Speaker 1: if we can kind of go through getting used to
Speaker 1: being okay, hay with uncertainty and like not letting it
Speaker 1: like fuck us up and like not letting it get
Speaker 1: in our head and really, you know, yeah mess us up,
Speaker 1: It's like that's such a hack for life. And so
Speaker 1: that was also a reason why I wanted to do
Speaker 1: this episode because I feel like uncertainty has often got
Speaker 1: me in really like bad mental health spots because I
Speaker 1: love control, and so I thought we could you know,
Speaker 1: really really incorporate it. And I was even going back
Speaker 1: and forth with the thought of like, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: uncertainty and this whole surrender aspects, like this can actually
Speaker 1: be like one of our superpowers that if we can
Speaker 1: learn how to hack uncertainty and like relish and really
Speaker 1: lean into it, like this is something we can really
Speaker 1: use to like gain our power back.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure, because imagine if you had the space
Speaker 3: and the confidence to not have something feel it, yeah,
Speaker 3: and let.
Speaker 2: Something feel it.
Speaker 3: But it's almost like I find for me, it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'll wait till X state before I plan for that
Speaker 3: space to be filled because the universe will bring it
Speaker 3: in by X state And if it's not in by
Speaker 3: X state iding to feel it before, then yes, but.
Speaker 2: It could come the day before.
Speaker 1: I know, it's difficult, could you imagine? Yes, I know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is like just the whole thing, isn't it?
Speaker 2: Ponder that one?
Speaker 1: Guys really ponder that one?
Speaker 2: Anyway. Hope you enjoyed this right, And Oh what I
Speaker 2: was going to say is.
Speaker 1: This is the really beautiful thing about to do it
Speaker 1: for your future self course is we do goal setting
Speaker 1: and intention setting in a very specific way, like I
Speaker 1: think I've said on here before, like no smart goals here.
Speaker 2: It is a.
Speaker 1: Very specific way, so there is room for mystery. And
Speaker 1: that's something like I think is really really important. And
Speaker 1: like I said, like I did the workbooks and got
Speaker 1: such a different like aha moment and planned for my
Speaker 1: year compared to Cinder, who did the workbooks. So it
Speaker 1: is really going to bring you exactly what you need.
Speaker 1: You've obviously got to, you know, do it in the
Speaker 1: order that the days are. But I love, I just
Speaker 1: I love this kind of new season for me personally.
Speaker 1: It is going to be such a challenge and I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, if you're someone who's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, this sounds horrible and you're a control freak
Speaker 1: like me, usually the thing that.
Speaker 2: You don't want to do is the thing that you
Speaker 2: need to implement.
Speaker 1: And so I've decided I'm really excited for this next
Speaker 1: season of like uncertainty and not knowing the exact things
Speaker 1: I want to achieve or the exact place that I
Speaker 1: want to be at the end of the year, but
Speaker 1: just knowing the vibe. I obviously, you know, I've done
Speaker 1: my buckets, I've done all the things, so I'm clear,
Speaker 1: bit just in a way I've never experienced it, and
Speaker 1: it just feels so good.
Speaker 3: I have a question, Yeah, do you think you would
Speaker 3: have got to where you are now if you.
Speaker 2: Planned your years more like you are next year this.
Speaker 3: Is Do you feel like you needed to go through
Speaker 3: that season of like this is my year. This is
Speaker 3: what I'm achieving. I'm going to get to here by
Speaker 3: the end of next year. Say for someone like me
Speaker 3: who's a little bit like earlier into self development, do
Speaker 3: I need to go through that first or is it
Speaker 3: that I might get further faster if I have uncertainty?
Speaker 1: So me and Cinda were pondering this exact thing, and
Speaker 1: I honestly think I may.
Speaker 2: Have got here faster.
Speaker 1: But it's like I even look back in like my
Speaker 1: whole I must finish my law degree, and I fucking
Speaker 1: spent six years doing my law degree. Like imagine if
Speaker 1: the first year because you were like, I don't like
Speaker 1: this like this, and I'm gonna go go off and
Speaker 1: do this entrepreneur thing, like I have six more years
Speaker 1: of my business.
Speaker 2: So in saying that, like that is the thing I
Speaker 2: will never know.
Speaker 1: I would never change my past because I love where
Speaker 1: I am, and I love the person I am, and
Speaker 1: I love my life and everything I have now, so
Speaker 1: obviously I would never change it. But I literally was
Speaker 1: thinking of this and it like Cinda as an observer
Speaker 1: who has known me my whole life, Yeah she did
Speaker 1: kind of. She was the one who is like, I
Speaker 1: feel like you have actually been limiting yourself by doing this.
Speaker 1: But in saying that, I, before this exact moment, I never,
Speaker 1: like I never would have been able to surrender because
Speaker 1: I just like I was not at that point where
Speaker 1: I had that trust or the trust or the capacity
Speaker 1: or the evidence like I needed to get to this point.
Speaker 1: So like I am, you know me, and I've got
Speaker 1: my own journey. I'm so different. So it's like, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you could argue for either way, but I
Speaker 1: just I think it's such an interesting concept. The way
Speaker 1: that I feel right now feels so different to how
Speaker 1: I've ever felt in my life, and I just think
Speaker 1: there's a lot of magic in that and it's very
Speaker 1: much my next level self. So yeah, like I couldn't
Speaker 1: tell you.
Speaker 2: We couldn't. I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, yeah, it's hard because it's just sort of like.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it's well, you could go either way. I
Speaker 2: literally could. Yeah, So look, who knows? Was that was
Speaker 2: that helpful? Was that like the most unhelpful thing I've
Speaker 2: ever heard? No, it's interesting.
Speaker 3: I think it's a good thought point, and like you
Speaker 3: just have to I don't know, surrendered to find out
Speaker 3: which one.
Speaker 1: Well exactly, I think there is so much beauty and
Speaker 1: surrender and there's so much.
Speaker 2: And you can't go wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's your answer. But anyway, all right,
Speaker 1: my loves, I'm going to wrap up this episode.
Speaker 2: I hope you guys.
Speaker 1: Are getting ready for the festive season and unwinding, and
Speaker 1: I do want to remind you that you only have
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Speaker 1: the first of January and really get clear, the link
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Speaker 2: But love you so much.
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this episode and I will be
Speaker 1: in your ears for the next one.
Speaker 2: Bye.
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