WEBVTT - FULL SHOW: Are we TOO into public shaming? 0:00:10.379 --> 0:00:14.219 My Heart podcasts, hear more Kiss Podcast playlist and listen 0:00:14.259 --> 0:00:15.859 live on the Free iHeart app. 0:00:19.499 --> 0:00:23.659 Good Pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn Badio work 0:00:24.619 --> 0:00:25.619 our windows downe. 0:00:25.859 --> 0:00:29.579 That's my worries in the dust, only good fabs all down. 0:00:30.659 --> 0:00:34.339 I've don't much now, but yeah I know I'll big 0:00:34.379 --> 0:00:35.659 get and what I want. 0:00:35.939 --> 0:00:37.019 It don't matter where. 0:00:37.699 --> 0:00:38.818 This is the pickup. 0:00:39.219 --> 0:00:41.659 Hi, guys, you're listening to the Pickup with Brett Harkley 0:00:41.859 --> 0:00:42.619 and Laura Burn. 0:00:43.099 --> 0:00:45.219 Happy Tuesday, Happy Tuesday. Do you know what I came 0:00:45.219 --> 0:00:47.699 across just on Instagram as I was flicking. 0:00:47.899 --> 0:00:50.179 I can only imagine what your Instagram feed you. 0:00:50.419 --> 0:00:52.299 No, I reset my feed so it's not as hectic 0:00:52.379 --> 0:00:53.739 as it used to be. I used to get some 0:00:54.619 --> 0:00:56.819 really really upsetting reels fed. 0:00:56.699 --> 0:00:57.979 To me, you know on the explore page. 0:00:58.019 --> 0:00:59.499 Yeah, it's a reflection of who you are. 0:00:59.619 --> 0:01:00.939 No, it really isn't. 0:01:00.979 --> 0:01:03.459 I didn't do anything to deserve this. Instagram just thought 0:01:03.499 --> 0:01:05.859 I like watching pimple popping videos because I looked once 0:01:06.298 --> 0:01:07.699 and then it was like, oh you like that had 0:01:07.779 --> 0:01:12.219 some more that I yeah, all right, well look this 0:01:12.379 --> 0:01:13.219 is I thought. 0:01:13.298 --> 0:01:15.859 This gave me a real chuckle. So female frogs, not 0:01:15.979 --> 0:01:16.178 all of. 0:01:16.179 --> 0:01:18.779 Them, but there's a specific species out there of female 0:01:18.859 --> 0:01:22.459 frogs who fake their own death to avoid mating with 0:01:22.539 --> 0:01:23.938 males that they don't find attractive. 0:01:24.539 --> 0:01:26.619 And I just think, go off, queen, good on you 0:01:26.899 --> 0:01:30.898 if you like, imagine imagine being so just hop away. Nah, 0:01:31.098 --> 0:01:32.779 they just pretend to be dead. Lay there. 0:01:32.818 --> 0:01:34.499 That's pretty much what I do at the moment, and 0:01:34.619 --> 0:01:37.259 what the frog won't do it then, Yep, it's having 0:01:37.259 --> 0:01:40.058 the same effect on my husband, Bora. 0:01:41.339 --> 0:01:42.658 Welcome to three PM everyone. 0:01:43.059 --> 0:01:43.979 I'm too pregnant. 0:01:44.339 --> 0:01:46.538 I can't. I thought he I mean, we're going off 0:01:46.578 --> 0:01:47.979 track here. I thought he had a pregnancy thing. 0:01:48.099 --> 0:01:48.459 He does. 0:01:48.579 --> 0:01:50.779 That's the problem. My husband does have a pregnancy king. 0:01:51.979 --> 0:01:52.419 I can't. 0:01:52.459 --> 0:01:55.819 I'm so tired. I have indigestion all the time. I 0:01:55.899 --> 0:01:56.499 can't breathe. 0:01:56.899 --> 0:01:59.299 I just now. Yeah, I don't pretend to be dead. 0:01:59.299 --> 0:02:01.859 I pretend to be asleep. I was hoping it was 0:02:01.899 --> 0:02:02.299 a joke. 0:02:04.379 --> 0:02:05.379 All Laura's inspiration. 0:02:05.499 --> 0:02:07.939 Everything on a search page is just about the dead throw. 0:02:08.019 --> 0:02:09.899 If it's good not for the frogs, it's good enough 0:02:10.059 --> 0:02:10.418 for me. 0:02:12.139 --> 0:02:14.099 Now we've managed to not talk about it thus far, 0:02:14.179 --> 0:02:19.258 which seems truly astonishing because the entire world has been 0:02:19.339 --> 0:02:22.458 talking about the Coldplay couple took cam. 0:02:22.698 --> 0:02:24.619 Well, like, let's do something different and not talk about it, 0:02:24.698 --> 0:02:26.018 and then we wait a couple of days, we're like, 0:02:26.059 --> 0:02:27.379 we have let's talk about it now. 0:02:27.659 --> 0:02:30.178 No, but it's because, like I mean, you guys have 0:02:30.258 --> 0:02:32.139 seen the memes. If you don't know what we're talking about. 0:02:32.579 --> 0:02:34.779 It was a Coldplay concert that happened. There was a 0:02:34.819 --> 0:02:37.219 couple that was caught on the kiss cam and they 0:02:37.418 --> 0:02:40.819 have gone absolutely viral because of the reaction that they had, 0:02:40.939 --> 0:02:43.579 so they quickly pulled away from each other. She covered 0:02:43.579 --> 0:02:46.978 her eyes. Now even Chris Martin himself is heard in 0:02:47.059 --> 0:02:50.138 the video saying, oh, either they're really shy or they're 0:02:50.179 --> 0:02:52.939 having an affair. Turns out they are having an affair. 0:02:52.978 --> 0:02:56.779 They're not They are shy affairs, but that's what it is, right, 0:02:56.859 --> 0:02:59.099 So the internet did what the internet does. The Internet 0:02:59.339 --> 0:03:02.578 very quickly found out who these people are. He's the 0:03:02.698 --> 0:03:08.179 CEO of a tech company called Astronomer, and she, Scandalous, 0:03:08.619 --> 0:03:10.059 is the head of HR. 0:03:10.059 --> 0:03:11.219 Which is funny in itself. 0:03:11.339 --> 0:03:12.899 Really both of them are married. 0:03:13.059 --> 0:03:13.219 Right. 0:03:13.859 --> 0:03:16.979 The big question is is whether it's gone too far now, 0:03:17.138 --> 0:03:21.538 whether the public shaming is justifiable whether the fact that 0:03:21.899 --> 0:03:25.179 I mean, he's lost his job, he's resigned as the CEO, 0:03:26.099 --> 0:03:30.499 they have been completely humiliated online, and whether it has 0:03:30.579 --> 0:03:31.258 gone too far. 0:03:31.939 --> 0:03:33.978 I mean, there's a question in that question. Yes, it's 0:03:34.019 --> 0:03:35.059 gone too far to answer. 0:03:35.139 --> 0:03:36.699 But the question in the question is should you be 0:03:36.779 --> 0:03:38.539 losing your job off the back of an affair? 0:03:38.659 --> 0:03:40.419 Like should those two things be interrelated? 0:03:41.379 --> 0:03:44.699 In this case, possibly there has to be repercussions because 0:03:44.739 --> 0:03:47.219 of the nature of the affair being with hr there's 0:03:47.219 --> 0:03:49.619 obviously a power and balance there. He is not only 0:03:49.739 --> 0:03:51.779 like the CEO of the company, but he has shares 0:03:51.779 --> 0:03:54.219 in the company, he part owns the company. 0:03:54.699 --> 0:03:56.539 There's definitely issues there, maybe. 0:03:56.339 --> 0:04:00.339 Contractually within that company that they have broken a breach 0:04:00.459 --> 0:04:01.979 of fornicating with. 0:04:02.339 --> 0:04:04.539 Staff members, Like yeah, maybe you can't do that. 0:04:04.659 --> 0:04:07.419 But generally speaking, I don't think that you should be 0:04:07.459 --> 0:04:08.499 losing a job because of an. 0:04:08.579 --> 0:04:11.619 Fair Like obviously we think it's immoral, we think it's evil, 0:04:11.779 --> 0:04:12.459 all those things. 0:04:12.539 --> 0:04:14.659 But I think the reason why I think. 0:04:14.579 --> 0:04:18.699 People have taken such joy in watching this crumble and 0:04:18.819 --> 0:04:22.619 burn is because most people have been cheated on. 0:04:22.739 --> 0:04:24.779 Most people know what that pain is like, right, and 0:04:24.899 --> 0:04:26.139 it is horrible. 0:04:26.259 --> 0:04:28.379 It is such an evil and nasty way to treat someone, 0:04:28.499 --> 0:04:30.659 to cheat on them and to betray their trust like that, 0:04:31.099 --> 0:04:34.499 But there's usually no punishment for it, right, Like, it's 0:04:34.539 --> 0:04:36.139 not like any other thing where you would have that 0:04:36.259 --> 0:04:39.339 much sort of emotional turmoil. There's some sort of punishment 0:04:39.379 --> 0:04:42.099 that happens, and in these instances, usually the person does 0:04:42.179 --> 0:04:45.859 the cheating gets off relatively scot free, or maybe that 0:04:46.019 --> 0:04:48.859 the relationship breaks down. But like in the grand scheme 0:04:48.899 --> 0:04:51.419 of things, I think maybe we all take a little 0:04:51.499 --> 0:04:54.699 bit of joy in watching the ruination of this couple 0:04:54.739 --> 0:04:58.459 because we're like, finally, you know, suffer, because we've all 0:04:58.499 --> 0:04:58.859 been there. 0:04:59.059 --> 0:05:00.739 I would say it was maybe like that for the 0:05:00.819 --> 0:05:03.299 first twelve hours. I would say it's transcended that, and 0:05:03.419 --> 0:05:06.539 that's not it anymore. People are taking joy in the humor, 0:05:06.699 --> 0:05:08.659 like people have made it into comedy content. 0:05:08.779 --> 0:05:09.779 But they're no longer people. 0:05:10.019 --> 0:05:12.779 They're not people anymore. The situation is what is funny. 0:05:12.939 --> 0:05:14.179 Anyone that is stage. 0:05:13.939 --> 0:05:16.419 Performing right now, anyone that has a platform on Instagram, 0:05:16.499 --> 0:05:18.739 anyone you follow, I can guarantee you has made some 0:05:18.899 --> 0:05:21.939 kind of a mockery of this situation. They've re enacted it, 0:05:22.259 --> 0:05:24.899 and I think people have forgotten that there are people 0:05:25.019 --> 0:05:26.499 at the core of this, that there are two real 0:05:26.539 --> 0:05:28.579 people with real families that are going through it, that 0:05:28.619 --> 0:05:30.699 are losing their jobs as families are affected. 0:05:31.099 --> 0:05:33.299 Yeah, but that's what happens with memes though, right, Like 0:05:33.739 --> 0:05:36.219 we dehumanize the person that's in them, and so like 0:05:36.339 --> 0:05:37.859 at the end of the day, and look, I don't 0:05:37.859 --> 0:05:40.459 get me wrong, i don't have this deep overwhelming sympathy. 0:05:40.499 --> 0:05:43.179 I'm not like, oh God, I do think of the CEO. 0:05:43.619 --> 0:05:45.779 No I do, because yes, you've cheated and you've done 0:05:45.819 --> 0:05:46.379 the wrong thing. 0:05:46.539 --> 0:05:50.099 Yeah, but this imagine like this is the entire world, 0:05:50.219 --> 0:05:52.659 Like this is insane what they have received. 0:05:52.739 --> 0:05:55.619 And I think the level of cancel culture that's happened 0:05:56.179 --> 0:06:01.259 in this instance is so unparalleled, unrelenting, and definitely the 0:06:01.339 --> 0:06:03.779 crime doesn't match the punishment in this instance because the 0:06:03.819 --> 0:06:05.139 punishment goes unvetted. 0:06:05.259 --> 0:06:07.139 Right, It's not like it's not like it has an. 0:06:07.139 --> 0:06:08.819 End day, it doesn't have an expiration, and like we 0:06:08.899 --> 0:06:11.779 actually don't know what impact this is going to have 0:06:11.899 --> 0:06:14.139 on his ability to get another job down the track 0:06:14.259 --> 0:06:17.779 or her ability to ever work in HR again. Like God, 0:06:18.739 --> 0:06:21.859 the luck of it, though, but it's so unfortunate. Well, 0:06:21.899 --> 0:06:23.859 I mean, does if you're gonna have an affair, keep 0:06:23.859 --> 0:06:24.539 it private. 0:06:24.379 --> 0:06:28.419 Like don't work colleagues and public platform and go on. 0:06:28.859 --> 0:06:30.899 And also if you're gonna get on the kids camp 0:06:30.899 --> 0:06:33.419 play cool like this. The only reason in this mess 0:06:33.539 --> 0:06:35.179 is because they tried to like die for cover and 0:06:35.299 --> 0:06:36.899 lip read is like lipid. 0:06:36.619 --> 0:06:38.979 What they said. I'm not saying God, have an affair 0:06:39.059 --> 0:06:39.819 and just like own it. 0:06:39.939 --> 0:06:40.659 I'm not saying that. 0:06:41.179 --> 0:06:43.379 But there are so many people in the public eye, 0:06:43.539 --> 0:06:46.899 so many famous people, women and men, who have been 0:06:47.019 --> 0:06:49.979 caught in infidelity, who have had affairs and nothing happens 0:06:50.019 --> 0:06:52.099 because it's not so much the affair we're angry about, 0:06:52.259 --> 0:06:54.259 but it's the situation around it, and that's what this 0:06:54.379 --> 0:06:56.819 has happened. Like, yes, we're angry about the affair, but 0:06:56.899 --> 0:06:59.059 we found so much humor in the way they were 0:06:59.099 --> 0:06:59.499 caught out. 0:06:59.659 --> 0:07:00.979 I mean, I read a couple of articles about this 0:07:01.019 --> 0:07:02.539 today and this one line really stood out to me. 0:07:02.619 --> 0:07:05.539 It said, the Coldplay couple did something bad, but the 0:07:05.659 --> 0:07:09.179 Internet did something worse. Did saying bad the internet did 0:07:09.219 --> 0:07:13.179 something better. I do think though, that people feel so 0:07:13.579 --> 0:07:16.099 enraged when it comes to cheating. We've spoken about cheating 0:07:16.099 --> 0:07:17.899 before on this show, and the amount of messages that 0:07:17.979 --> 0:07:21.379 come in on DMS after those conversations because so many 0:07:21.379 --> 0:07:25.539 people have been affected by it. Rit I have something 0:07:25.619 --> 0:07:28.099 that you are going to love. Well, someone I should 0:07:28.139 --> 0:07:32.499 say cash. Unfortunately she is not money, but maybe she 0:07:32.539 --> 0:07:34.579 can bring you some money or some good fortune. You 0:07:34.659 --> 0:07:37.019 were saying recently that you wanted to get a psychic 0:07:37.179 --> 0:07:40.899 on the show, and you very much are into. 0:07:40.739 --> 0:07:43.299 Your manifestation psychics. 0:07:43.499 --> 0:07:45.739 I don't want to bundle it altogether, but I think 0:07:45.939 --> 0:07:47.899 bundle it for me because I am in you are. 0:07:48.179 --> 0:07:50.499 You are absolutely and I have probably been the one 0:07:50.739 --> 0:07:54.299 in our relationship that's been slightly more skeptical over the years, 0:07:54.419 --> 0:07:57.659 only because I've had a bum steer. Twice nour psychics 0:07:57.659 --> 0:07:58.819 have told me that I'm going to have a boy, 0:07:58.899 --> 0:07:59.659 and they've both been wrong. 0:07:59.819 --> 0:08:02.099 Let's not play it down just because the psychic is 0:08:02.139 --> 0:08:04.939 in fact in the room. You are not slightly skeptical. 0:08:05.019 --> 0:08:06.459 You've always been very skeptical. 0:08:06.539 --> 0:08:07.059 No, I'm not. 0:08:07.459 --> 0:08:09.339 No, I think I'm coming around to it more than 0:08:09.379 --> 0:08:11.819 what I used to be. I would say in my twenties, 0:08:11.859 --> 0:08:13.659 I was very skeptical, but then there's been a few 0:08:13.699 --> 0:08:16.699 things that's happened as I've gotten older and wiser, that's 0:08:16.779 --> 0:08:19.019 kind of made me soften to it a little bit. 0:08:19.099 --> 0:08:21.739 But we do have someone very special in the room, 0:08:21.979 --> 0:08:25.259 Jessica Lynn. Now, Jessica Lynn is a psychic medium herself, 0:08:25.339 --> 0:08:27.099 but also she is the host of. 0:08:27.099 --> 0:08:30.819 The podcast Talk Spirit to Me. Jess Welcome to the show. 0:08:31.099 --> 0:08:34.939 Firstly, Okay, what's the difference for anyone who is unsure 0:08:35.059 --> 0:08:36.659 between a psychic and a psychic medium? 0:08:36.979 --> 0:08:37.619 Yes, so a. 0:08:37.619 --> 0:08:40.899 Psychic is somebody who is basically picking up on your energy, 0:08:41.339 --> 0:08:43.259 what's going on for you right now, what might be 0:08:43.459 --> 0:08:45.939 a potential future for you as well or as a 0:08:45.939 --> 0:08:49.139 psychic medium does that, but you also connect to your spirits, 0:08:49.259 --> 0:08:51.979 so your loved ones on the other side, your spirit team. 0:08:52.579 --> 0:08:54.859 I am interested to know how you knew you could 0:08:54.859 --> 0:08:57.899 do this. How old were you when you were I 0:08:57.899 --> 0:09:00.059 don't know. Were you getting visited by spirits? Like do 0:09:00.139 --> 0:09:01.819 you physically see them? Did they come to you as 0:09:01.859 --> 0:09:03.619 ghosts when you were younger? Or is it justs like 0:09:03.699 --> 0:09:05.899 this feeling, Like, talk me through what you experience. 0:09:06.139 --> 0:09:08.179 Yeah, so it's more of a feeling for me. 0:09:08.579 --> 0:09:10.979 So I always had a very strong intuition, like even 0:09:11.019 --> 0:09:13.739 as a young girl. I was just aware of things, 0:09:13.819 --> 0:09:16.899 I guess, and had that really strong gut feeling, and 0:09:17.019 --> 0:09:19.899 I just thought that people had the same thing, like 0:09:20.019 --> 0:09:22.379 everyone could know things and everyone was aware of things 0:09:22.459 --> 0:09:23.299 the way that I was. 0:09:23.459 --> 0:09:25.539 So I was always very open to it. 0:09:26.379 --> 0:09:28.218 But it wasn't until my Nana passed when I was 0:09:28.259 --> 0:09:29.819 twelve that I became. 0:09:29.819 --> 0:09:31.579 Very curious about the spirit world. 0:09:31.619 --> 0:09:34.019 I'm like, she cannot just be gone. It can't just be, 0:09:34.259 --> 0:09:36.419 you know, a thing that she's not here. So I 0:09:36.539 --> 0:09:39.819 started to do meditations in my teenage years, and I 0:09:39.899 --> 0:09:42.699 started going to the local crystal shop and like hanging 0:09:42.739 --> 0:09:45.259 out with like the spiritual ladies and like picking their 0:09:45.339 --> 0:09:47.699 brains and all the things. And you know, it wasn't 0:09:47.739 --> 0:09:49.499 until I was in my thirties that I started to 0:09:49.619 --> 0:09:53.259 really get into this. So now I'm where I am 0:09:53.419 --> 0:09:55.819 because I chose to sort of go down that path 0:09:55.899 --> 0:09:56.459 and dig deep. 0:09:56.859 --> 0:09:58.299 And then how does it come across to you? 0:09:58.459 --> 0:10:01.259 So do you walk into a room Sometimes maybe it's 0:10:01.299 --> 0:10:03.098 with strangers, maybe it's with people you know, and you 0:10:03.259 --> 0:10:06.059 just someone just presents themselves to you like a spirit, 0:10:06.139 --> 0:10:06.899 Like does it just come? 0:10:07.499 --> 0:10:08.819 I don't know where do you have to call it? 0:10:08.899 --> 0:10:09.578 And ask for it. 0:10:10.179 --> 0:10:12.579 I mol so have to call on it now because 0:10:12.579 --> 0:10:14.739 I've got really strong boundaries with spirit that I don't 0:10:14.779 --> 0:10:16.578 want them to be popping up when I'm trying to 0:10:16.619 --> 0:10:17.419 go to sleep and all that. 0:10:17.499 --> 0:10:20.779 Kind of of us don't have boundaries with relationships with 0:10:20.859 --> 0:10:21.699 the spirit I do. 0:10:21.939 --> 0:10:23.739 It's call on How do you learn this? 0:10:23.819 --> 0:10:25.218 It's not like something you can go to school or 0:10:25.259 --> 0:10:27.499 go to university for, like what does it look like 0:10:27.579 --> 0:10:30.259 for you? And I guess when you started to realize, Okay, 0:10:30.379 --> 0:10:32.659 maybe this is something that is different. 0:10:32.379 --> 0:10:35.019 To what other people experience, like how are you able 0:10:35.059 --> 0:10:35.578 to channel that? 0:10:36.099 --> 0:10:36.299 Yeah? 0:10:36.339 --> 0:10:39.379 So I actually went to other mediums who had obviously 0:10:39.499 --> 0:10:41.659 been through the process of learning themselves and I was 0:10:41.739 --> 0:10:44.299 mentaught by them. So they taught me how to blend 0:10:44.339 --> 0:10:46.619 with spirit. They taught me how to open myself up. 0:10:46.739 --> 0:10:49.459 And it's really funny when you start channeling. At the start, 0:10:49.499 --> 0:10:51.179 it's like a free for all. It's like you don't 0:10:51.219 --> 0:10:52.779 know what you're doing. You're kind of just picking up 0:10:52.819 --> 0:10:55.259 on things and it feels very clunky. But over time 0:10:55.299 --> 0:10:57.819 you build this symbology of spirits like almost like I 0:10:57.899 --> 0:10:59.458 picture it as like a keyboard in the back of 0:10:59.539 --> 0:11:01.338 my head and they're like that one, and they're like 0:11:01.419 --> 0:11:03.338 that one and that thing and that thing, and it 0:11:03.459 --> 0:11:05.019 kind of just flows from there. 0:11:05.179 --> 0:11:07.859 What is like one of the weirdest experiences you've had 0:11:08.099 --> 0:11:11.019 or mess like something that would just blow us away? 0:11:11.579 --> 0:11:12.739 So something that comes to mind. 0:11:13.219 --> 0:11:15.979 So one of the things. It was probably only like 0:11:16.539 --> 0:11:17.299 a few months ago. 0:11:18.139 --> 0:11:20.419 My father in law has passed away, and so my 0:11:20.539 --> 0:11:23.299 sister in law, who's kind of open to spirit more 0:11:23.379 --> 0:11:25.579 so now that her dad's passed, She's like, I keep 0:11:25.659 --> 0:11:27.899 dreaming of Dad, like I need you to channel himuse I. 0:11:27.859 --> 0:11:29.699 Need to know what the pali wants. And I'm like, okay. 0:11:30.019 --> 0:11:32.259 So I started channeling for her and I said, all 0:11:32.339 --> 0:11:35.019 I can see is this newspaper. I'm like, he's saying, 0:11:35.139 --> 0:11:37.578 get the newspaper, get the newspaper, and there's something between 0:11:37.659 --> 0:11:38.578 you and him with the paper. 0:11:38.619 --> 0:11:40.699 I'm like, have you ever been in the paper or something? 0:11:40.739 --> 0:11:41.619 And she's like no. 0:11:42.059 --> 0:11:43.659 She goes, I'm going to ring mum and see what 0:11:43.819 --> 0:11:45.979 this newspaper's about. And it was late at night and 0:11:46.139 --> 0:11:47.659 Mum's like, I don't know what you're talking about. 0:11:47.779 --> 0:11:48.979 She goes, you have to go and. 0:11:49.019 --> 0:11:49.419 Look for it. 0:11:49.539 --> 0:11:51.899 And I channeled that it was in her sewing room. 0:11:52.299 --> 0:11:53.458 There's something in the sewing room. 0:11:53.459 --> 0:11:55.379 There's a newspaper, and she goes, I'll go down and 0:11:55.459 --> 0:11:58.899 have a look, and she ended up remembering that her dad, 0:11:59.339 --> 0:12:02.139 he had bought her a newspaper on her birthday. She's 0:12:02.179 --> 0:12:05.259 bought on the twelfth of December twenty twelve because he 0:12:05.299 --> 0:12:07.179 thought it was twelve twelve twelve, which would be really cool, 0:12:07.219 --> 0:12:08.299 and he was meant to give it to her for 0:12:08.339 --> 0:12:10.539 a thirtieth birthday, but he forgot, so he left it 0:12:10.579 --> 0:12:13.619 behind the bookshelf and the mum found it and she's like, 0:12:13.699 --> 0:12:16.059 oh my god, I forgot all about this. 0:12:16.419 --> 0:12:18.019 So he died and went, oh. 0:12:18.019 --> 0:12:20.139 Not newspeople to give it to her. 0:12:20.499 --> 0:12:22.779 So it was amazing. Blew my mind, blew their minds. 0:12:22.939 --> 0:12:25.059 Have you ever had any scary experiences like you know, 0:12:25.139 --> 0:12:28.179 you hear about people who might have had, I guess 0:12:28.219 --> 0:12:32.499 an intimidating experience. Has that something that you have witnessed yourself? 0:12:32.659 --> 0:12:34.379 Or is it also something that people should even be 0:12:34.739 --> 0:12:35.179 wary of. 0:12:35.819 --> 0:12:37.339 Look, you know, it can happen. 0:12:38.099 --> 0:12:40.899 There are some souls out there that maybe are a 0:12:40.939 --> 0:12:43.259 little bit more cheeky or like to try it on. 0:12:43.379 --> 0:12:44.739 From a few base point of view. 0:12:44.859 --> 0:12:46.619 But for me, I kind of like to put up 0:12:46.619 --> 0:12:48.338 a lot of protection so that I don't really have 0:12:48.459 --> 0:12:51.539 those experiences. I have had a bit of an entity 0:12:51.659 --> 0:12:54.259 that attached itself to me, like a year or so ago, 0:12:54.499 --> 0:12:58.179 and you feel funky. You're like something's going wrong, if 0:12:58.179 --> 0:13:00.499 everything's going wrong in your life, you're having really bad luck. 0:13:00.819 --> 0:13:02.499 Everything just feels really ik. 0:13:02.899 --> 0:13:06.219 Make sure you cleanse yourself, cleanse your environment, because there 0:13:06.259 --> 0:13:08.179 just might be something that's attached itself to you, or 0:13:08.219 --> 0:13:09.859 bitter residual energy from something. 0:13:10.099 --> 0:13:12.059 Okay, so we are going to get into it after 0:13:12.139 --> 0:13:14.899 the break a bit more specifically about us. But before 0:13:15.019 --> 0:13:16.859 we do go to a break, have you felt anything 0:13:16.899 --> 0:13:18.379 from either of us since you've been in the room. 0:13:19.299 --> 0:13:21.338 I can definitely feel a lot of energy in here, 0:13:21.499 --> 0:13:22.739 So I'm sure we're going to be. 0:13:25.779 --> 0:13:26.139 All right. 0:13:26.219 --> 0:13:27.499 Well, we're gonna go to a quick break and then 0:13:27.499 --> 0:13:29.379 we're gonna get into it a bit more specifically with you. 0:13:29.499 --> 0:13:30.939 After the break, it's pick up on kiss. 0:13:32.579 --> 0:13:35.218 We're joined by very special guest, Jessica Lynn, who is 0:13:35.259 --> 0:13:38.779 a psychic medium. Now we were just talking all about 0:13:38.859 --> 0:13:41.859 how she got into this, some of her experiences, but 0:13:42.019 --> 0:13:44.738 we are about to get into some more specific experiences 0:13:44.779 --> 0:13:47.139 with Laura and myself. And I can just see you 0:13:47.339 --> 0:13:50.299 just closed your eyes and your eyes were fluttering, Jess, 0:13:50.339 --> 0:13:52.579 Are you trying to take yourself somewhere now and tune 0:13:52.619 --> 0:13:53.699 into people in our lives? 0:13:53.979 --> 0:13:57.219 Definitely, So I have to alter the way that I'm thinking. 0:13:57.299 --> 0:13:58.859 And this is why sometimes it's hard for me to 0:13:58.979 --> 0:14:01.179 read in situations like this because I'm in my logical 0:14:01.219 --> 0:14:03.019 mind and now I'm in my spiritual mind. So I 0:14:03.099 --> 0:14:05.219 have to take a minute. Is there someone in particular 0:14:05.299 --> 0:14:06.699 that either one of you would like to connect with? 0:14:07.019 --> 0:14:08.099 Think I go first. 0:14:08.179 --> 0:14:08.379 Yeah. 0:14:08.619 --> 0:14:10.059 I mean, in the last couple of years, I've had 0:14:10.139 --> 0:14:12.659 three very important people in my life pass away, my nana, 0:14:12.819 --> 0:14:14.739 my papa, and also my stepdad. 0:14:14.939 --> 0:14:17.379 So they all passed away in last few years. 0:14:17.459 --> 0:14:19.179 So my papa was probably the person I was with 0:14:19.259 --> 0:14:21.739 the closest, but he passed away the longest. 0:14:21.779 --> 0:14:23.979 To go. Okay, let me see what I can feel 0:14:24.059 --> 0:14:26.059 around the male energy around you then, because you've got 0:14:26.099 --> 0:14:29.179 two males, so let's see what I can feel for you, 0:14:29.579 --> 0:14:35.859 all right, Okay, there is definitely a male here for you. 0:14:36.739 --> 0:14:41.619 He's got quite a funny banter, like a really interesting personality, 0:14:41.659 --> 0:14:43.099 a character, that's what I'll call him. 0:14:43.419 --> 0:14:45.299 I feel like if someone's funny, it'd probably be my 0:14:45.379 --> 0:14:47.979 step dad over my granddad's probably asleep. 0:14:47.819 --> 0:14:50.019 To be honest, Yeah, more serious. 0:14:50.379 --> 0:14:53.059 Yeah, he wasn't really one two correct jokes. 0:14:53.499 --> 0:14:54.699 No, this guy's super funny. 0:14:54.739 --> 0:14:55.899 And I was gonna say to you, I feel like 0:14:55.939 --> 0:14:57.779 that he felt a bit robbed of time, like he 0:14:57.859 --> 0:15:01.059 felt as though his life was cut short a little bit. 0:15:01.339 --> 0:15:04.419 And he actually starts to restrict my chest. So I 0:15:04.539 --> 0:15:06.819 think that at the end of his life there may 0:15:06.899 --> 0:15:09.179 be something that affected his heart life or chest or 0:15:09.219 --> 0:15:11.619 you might have had difficulty communicating. 0:15:12.259 --> 0:15:15.179 Yeah, I mean, so my stepdad passed away. 0:15:15.339 --> 0:15:19.299 He had prostate cancer, but it was a very slow 0:15:19.619 --> 0:15:23.219 process and very Yeah, the last few weeks in hospital were. 0:15:23.259 --> 0:15:24.619 Pretty awful, he says. 0:15:24.659 --> 0:15:26.859 I don't want anyone to feel like they didn't get 0:15:26.859 --> 0:15:28.139 the chance to say goodbye to me. 0:15:28.779 --> 0:15:30.739 I think he was very much in denial that he 0:15:31.019 --> 0:15:32.899 was that sick for a long long time. Yeah, it 0:15:33.019 --> 0:15:35.419 was probably a big part of it. What about you, Britt, 0:15:35.459 --> 0:15:38.219 Is there anyone that you would Yeah, I probably have 0:15:38.379 --> 0:15:42.299 just two people that are passing my life, an uncle 0:15:42.819 --> 0:15:43.619 and a grandma. 0:15:44.419 --> 0:15:47.939 All Right, I am feeling more of the female energy 0:15:48.339 --> 0:15:52.619 for you. I can't stop thinking about baby. She keeps saying, 0:15:53.099 --> 0:15:56.699 talk about the baby, the baby, the baby. I feel 0:15:56.779 --> 0:15:59.379 like that there's a spirit baby for you on the 0:15:59.419 --> 0:16:01.579 other side that hasn't come here yet. She wants to 0:16:01.619 --> 0:16:04.099 acknowledge because she's holding that little soul for you. Do 0:16:04.179 --> 0:16:06.619 you have any children? I don't have any children. Okay, yeah, 0:16:06.659 --> 0:16:07.099 she's saying. 0:16:07.619 --> 0:16:08.379 She just said why not? 0:16:10.699 --> 0:16:12.539 Is she saying anything else about it? What else do 0:16:12.579 --> 0:16:14.099 you see around that? That's cute? 0:16:14.139 --> 0:16:16.459 All right, there's a lot of girl energy around you. 0:16:16.819 --> 0:16:18.579 I think that she thinks that you would be better 0:16:18.659 --> 0:16:22.259 as a girl mom have than anything else. And she 0:16:22.419 --> 0:16:24.499