1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Oh now it makes sense. Just a warning, this podcast 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: deals with domestic violence. If you are a loved one 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: is struggling, you can call one eight hundred respect on 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: one eight hundred seven three seven seven thirty two. Good 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: morning and welcome to the Daily ODS. It is Friday, 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: the eighth of March. 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm Billy, I'm Sam. 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Today it is International Women's Day and we are going 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: to be talking about something that disproportionately impacts women, and 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: that is coercive control. This week, Queensland became the second 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: state in Australia to criminalize coercive control as a standalone offense. Now, 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: if you haven't heard of coercive control, it is a 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: pattern of controlling and isolating behavior. 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: In a relationship. 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: It's one of the more invisible types of domestic violence, 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: but evidence shows it is extremely harmful and is one 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: of the most common forms of how people experience domestic abuse. 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,639 Speaker 1: We're going to look at the push to criminalize coerce 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: of control around the country in today's deep dive. But 21 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: for Sam, what's making headlines. 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: Minister for Women Katie Gallagher has announced Australia's first national 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: gender equality strategy called Working for Women. The strategy involves 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: a ten year plan which will focus on areas including 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: gender based violence, economic equality and health. The strategy's aim 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: is to quote shift the attitudes and stereotypes that drive 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: gender inequality. The launch comes after the government announced people 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: who receive paid parental leave from the government will also 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: receive superannuation on top of that payment. 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: The son of a former federal defense minister has died 31 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: after an army training accident. Lance Corporal Jacks Fitzgibbon was 32 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: injured during a parachuting incident this week at an army 33 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: base in western Sydney. The Australian Defense Force confirmed yes 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: the soldier was the son of formal Labour MP Joel Fitzgibbon, 35 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: who served as a Defense Minister from two thousand and 36 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: seven to two thousand and nine. A statement from the 37 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: Fitzgibbons said, quote Serving in the Special Forces was Jack's 38 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: dream job and we take comfort from the fact he 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: died serving his nation. The ADF has launched a formal 40 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: investigation into what happened. 41 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: An URL player for the Sydney Roosters, Spencer Lenu, has 42 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: pleaded guilty to making a racist remark during a game 43 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Over the weekend, Brisbane Broncos player Ezra 44 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: mam alleged Lenu had made a racist comment against him. 45 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: The Sydney Roosters issued a statement apologizing to Ezra, his 46 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: family and the First Nation's community. Lenu said, I am 47 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: sincerely sorry to cause him such distress and I said 48 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: the word, but I didn't mean it in a racist way. 49 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: And today's good news. A gray whale has been spotted 50 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: in the Atlantic Ocean for the first time in over 51 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: two centuries. According to the New Englandarium, the whale was 52 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: spotted off the New England coast and was thought to 53 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: be extinct from that area. The whale was seen diving 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: and resurfacing multiple times and seemed to be feeding. A 55 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: research technician said quote, we were laughing because of how 56 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: wild and exciting this was to see an animal that 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: disappeared from the Atlantic hundreds of years ago. 58 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: Go whales, Go whales. So Billy. Queensland this week became 59 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 2: the second state in Australia to criminalize coercive control as 60 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: a standalone of fence. New South Wales was the first 61 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: state to do this back in twenty twenty two, and 62 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: you gave us a little bit of an explanation of 63 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: what coercive control is in the intro, but let's have 64 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: more of an in depth discussion about this. 65 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 66 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: So, coercive control is a form of domestic violence where 67 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: a person denies a victim survivor autonomy and independence over time. 68 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: And it's a whole range of things, And it's important 69 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: to emphasize that it's about a pattern of controlling behavior, 70 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: and it can include a whole range of things like 71 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: isolating your partner from their friends and family, controlling their finances, 72 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: making threats, monitoring them and their behavior, constantly humiliating and 73 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: insulting them. And like I said, it's about a pattern 74 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: of this behavior, So it's not about isolated incidents, but 75 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: how this kind of behavior can really control a partner 76 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: over years. 77 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: Because previously this discussion about domestic violence was really tied 78 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: to physical harm, right. 79 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I think ten twenty years ago, the conversation 80 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: about domestic violence was really limited to physical harm. I mean, 81 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: I think of when I was growing up, when there 82 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: were conversations about domestic violence, you instantly would think of 83 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: a person being hit. But what we know now is 84 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: that that is a very limited understanding of how someone 85 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: can experience domestic abuse, and we now know that coercive 86 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: control is one of the most common ways that people 87 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: will experience domestic abuse. Soals view of domestic and family 88 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: violence in Australia found that over eighty percent of men 89 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: who had killed a current or previous female partner had 90 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: exhibited nonviolent behaviors, so things like coercive control against the 91 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: partners that they killed. That's a huge percentage eighty percent. 92 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: And so now in Queensland, if found guilty of this crime, 93 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: there will be a penalty of up to fourteen years imprisonment. 94 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: And why do you think we've had more of these 95 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: conversations about coercive controlled in the last couple of years. 96 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: Well, I think it really entered the mainstream conversation in 97 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: early twenty twenty when Hannah Clark was murdered. 98 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: There's been an outpouring of grief for a mother and 99 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: her three children who were burnt to death in their 100 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: car in Brisbane's East yesterday. There's also anger at the 101 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 3: man accused of setting them alight. 102 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure many people will remember this story. I remember 103 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty it was kind of the big story 104 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: at the start of twenty twenty apart from COVID, but 105 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: it really dominated the news cycle in Australia. For those 106 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,679 Speaker 1: who need a reminder. In February twenty twenty, Hannah Clark 107 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: and her three children were murdered by their children's father, 108 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 1: who was Hannah's estranged husband. And there was an inquest 109 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: into what led to Hannah Clark and her children's murder, 110 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: and it found that this man used really controlling behavior 111 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: towards Hannah from early on in their relationship and that 112 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: remained throughout the entirety of their relationship. And it was 113 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: really alarming stuff how this controlling behavior manifested. So the 114 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: inquest found that he was controlling a whole list of 115 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: things that I have here in front of me, and 116 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: I'll list some of them. So it was controlling things 117 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: like what she could wear. For example, it said she 118 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to wear shorts or skirts above the knee. 119 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: That was a rule that her husband at the time 120 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: imposed on her. He also controlled what she ate. He 121 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: attempted to isolate Hannah from her family and friends. He 122 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: would hack into Hannah's Instagram account to read her messages 123 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: without her knowing he would read her text messages while 124 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: she was asleep. He also hid recording devices around the 125 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 1: house and in Hannah's car without her knowing. Hannah also 126 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: actually told friends that she experienced sexual violence at the 127 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: hands of this man in the form of coercive control. 128 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: So she said that she was forced into having sex 129 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: with him every night, and if she did refuse, he 130 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't talk to her for days, and he would yell 131 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: at her and threaten her. This list that I have 132 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: in front of me really just goes on and on 133 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: about all of the different ways that he completely controlled 134 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: her and abused her. And so this law is about 135 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: identifying that what he did to her is against the 136 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: law and is a standalone criminal offense. And so after 137 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: the murder of Hannah and her three children, it led 138 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: to Hannah's family starting a campaign to raise awareness firstly 139 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: about what coercive control is and recognizing that it absolutely 140 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: is a form of domestic violence, and also to criminalize it. 141 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: They really led this movement around the country to criminalize 142 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: coerse control, and they started with Queensland because that is 143 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: the state where Hannah and her three children were murdered. 144 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: And it's been a four year process to get to 145 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: this week, but we are finally here where coercive control 146 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: has become a criminal offense in Queensland. 147 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's a really painful week for Hannah Clark's family. 148 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it's taken four years of lobbying to get 149 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: the law to this point. Have we heard from them 150 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: this week? 151 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 152 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: So Hannah's parents, Sue and Lloyd Clark, spoke outside of 153 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: Parliament when this law was passed. 154 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: It's now up to the rest of us. Every day 155 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 4: Queensland is we need to speak out against those signs 156 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: of control when we see them in our mates, in 157 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 4: our family members, and even in ourselves, and recognized that 158 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: in Queensland this isn't just poor behavior anymore, it's a crime. 159 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: But Sue Clark also said that her work here is 160 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: not done. 161 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: We will continue to speak out until coercive control is 162 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 4: criminalized throughout Australia. 163 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: I'd love to talk to you about the rest of 164 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 2: the country and where this law sits in other states 165 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: and territories. But if we just stay on Queensland for 166 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 2: one more second, was there any opposition to this law 167 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: in the state. 168 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: So the Liberal National Party is the opposition in Queensland 169 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: and they did support this bill, but they had some 170 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: hesitations about how it was done. One thing that they 171 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: raised is about how it is defined. This is a 172 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: new term and it's a new term in law. As 173 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: we said, Queensland is only the second state to do this, 174 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: so it's really hard to define. And like we went 175 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: through with what happened to Hannah, there is a whole 176 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: range of things that this can include, and so it's 177 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: unlike some other crimes where it's not as specific. 178 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: Does that make sense, Yeah, And it's often the case 179 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: that you can be so prescriptive in describing a certain 180 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: set of behavior that it actually can disadvantage future victims 181 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: if that doesn't meet the same criteria. 182 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. But what the opposition here is saying it 183 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: actually needs to be a little bit more specific and 184 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: at the moment, and it's too broad. So this Shadow 185 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: Attorney General Tim Nichols said there was a lack of 186 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: particularization on what constitutes coercive control and he said that 187 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: that needs to be addressed. Another thing that he raised 188 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: concerns about is how this will be rolled out. So 189 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: he said education and training should now be the main 190 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: priorities of both the community and the frontline workers in 191 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: order to effectively roll this out. And he also asked 192 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: for the government to explain how much funding it will 193 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: put behind the necessary training to do this, but from 194 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: what he said, the government hasn't provided that information yet. Also, 195 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: another thing that constantly comes up when we talk about 196 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: coercive control is how these laws will impact First Nations communities. 197 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: So First Nations advocacy groups have repeatedly flagged that coercive 198 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: control laws could actually further disadvantage women in their communities 199 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: because they're worried it could lead to victim survivors being 200 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: misidentified as perpose traders, which they say happens routinely already 201 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: and this could just exacerbate that. 202 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: Really complicated to try and get this right. And I 203 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: guess now as we look to how it could be 204 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: rolled out nationally, how is it looking in the rest 205 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:14,479 Speaker 2: of Australia. 206 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we mentioned Queensland is the second, New South 207 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: Wales was the first and they did that in twenty 208 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: twenty two. But there are conversations about how this could 209 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: be implemented elsewhere. So South Australia has announced it is 210 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: in the early stages of drafting laws to criminalize coercive control, 211 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: and also in Western Australia there's a conversation about if 212 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,239 Speaker 1: this could happen there. A recent review also recommended strengthening 213 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: legislation to target coercive behavior. It's also worth mentioning that 214 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: in Tasmania there are laws criminalizing family violence, which could 215 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: include controlling behavior, but they just haven't specifically outlawed coercive 216 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: control as a standalone offense. 217 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: Okay, And this isn't the only reform in this space 218 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: that's happened in Queensland recently. I saw in our posts 219 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 2: that you also mentioned stealthing in Queensland. 220 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 221 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: So stealthing, for those who don't know, is the non 222 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: consensual removal of a condom during sex. And this has 223 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: also become a crime in Queensland this week as part 224 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: of that legislation with coercive control, and it means that 225 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: stealthying will now be recognized as rape in Queensland. And 226 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: this is part of the state moving towards an affirmative 227 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: consent model, which is another term I think we've heard 228 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: a lot more about in recent years, and it's about 229 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: recognizing that each person engaging in a sexual act needs 230 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: to actively seek consent from the other person. Gotcha, And 231 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: so this law in Queensland past this week brings the 232 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: state into line with Tasmania, New South Wales Act and 233 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: Victoria when it comes to stealthing. 234 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: We cover a lot of grounds in that episode that 235 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: can be quite distressing to listen to. And if there's 236 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 2: anything you want to discuss with a professional, you can 237 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: call one eight hundred respects on one eight hundred seventy 238 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: three seven seven three to two. That's all we've got 239 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: time for on today's episode of The Daily oz. Thank 240 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: you for listening. Please look after yourselves over the weekend, 241 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: be kind to yourself and we'll speak to you again 242 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: on Monday. My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a 243 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: proud Arunda Bungelung Calcoton woman from Gadighl Country. The Daily 244 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: oz acknowledges that this podcast is recorded on the lands 245 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: of the Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal 246 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: and Torres Strait Island and nations. 247 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 3: We pay our respects to the first peoples of these countries, 248 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: both past and present.