Speaker 1: Come on, here.
Speaker 2: We go Vibe.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, I love hum Day so much.
Speaker 3: Now, the reason why I am excited is because you
Speaker 3: guys know, I mean, Britt, you're a bit of a
Speaker 3: Bachelor fan as well, but I am.
Speaker 1: I am not a fan. I got dumbed. Yeah okay,
Speaker 1: well he worked out okay for me, So I am
Speaker 1: married and had two kids. I got dumb So.
Speaker 4: You're way more of a fan than I am.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I believe in the love stories because I've
Speaker 3: seen it, I lived it. I am a case study
Speaker 3: of the Bachelor franchise.
Speaker 4: I still reckon you are Maddy j have just like
Speaker 4: signed a really long term contract to get the stats
Speaker 4: up for success.
Speaker 3: So I reckon you signed like a ten year contract.
Speaker 3: We'll see what happened to. We get a bonus every
Speaker 3: time we have a baby, every kid, Yeah, and every year.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like marriage. You know, when you sign a.
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 4: But but when you get married, like a preen up?
Speaker 1: How long you say together? How many kids have?
Speaker 3: Except that our prenup is with Warner Brothers.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay.
Speaker 3: Well, the reason why I'm excited is because you might
Speaker 3: have heard that they have the Golden Bachelor in the States,
Speaker 3: but they're talking about bringing the Golden Bachelor to Australia,
Speaker 3: which is a type of reality TV. I can get
Speaker 3: behind now. The Golden Bachelor. He in the States. His
Speaker 3: name's Jerry. He's seventy two years old. He is so hot,
Speaker 3: which sounds really weird saying that, but he is like
Speaker 3: sexy daddy vibes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you don't know what the Golden Bachelor is,
Speaker 4: it's the Bachelor for mature people. They've actually said mature
Speaker 4: twenty two mature women and Jerry, And Jerry's amazing. I'm
Speaker 4: obsessed with him. He would have been so hot when
Speaker 4: he was younger. This is a Bachelor.
Speaker 1: I'm really going to get behind now.
Speaker 4: We have a huge show coming up, but I am
Speaker 4: going to be talking very openly about my fertility journey.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go.
Speaker 5: The pickup starts now around Australia.
Speaker 4: I know my fertility journey's been something that I have
Speaker 4: spoken about quite a few times, particularly over this year.
Speaker 4: For me, it's been quite spread out over the last
Speaker 4: couple of years. It started probably two years ago when
Speaker 4: I did my first egg freezing cycle. Yeah, and I
Speaker 4: am on my third cycle at the moment. So I
Speaker 4: am thirty six years old for those that are playing
Speaker 4: at home, and I have quite low fertility and it's
Speaker 4: something that I never thought I would have because as women,
Speaker 4: you know, you grow up thinking, don't fel pregnant, do't
Speaker 4: fall pregnantn't fetregnant, because that's what you're taught. And then
Speaker 4: all of a sudden the day comes where you're like,
Speaker 4: time to feel pregnant and you can't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and an't no brit as well, like you recently
Speaker 3: did your second round of egg freezing and the results
Speaker 3: weren't what you were hoping for and you were so
Speaker 3: vulnerable and sharing that with everyone.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, so I did my second round only two
Speaker 4: months ago, now, I think. And you go through weeks
Speaker 4: of injections and woman injections and I ended up with nothing.
Speaker 1: And that was the slap in the face.
Speaker 4: That was where I was like, oh my god, like
Speaker 4: even with the help of science, and you've just paid
Speaker 4: all this money. And I know it's not about money,
Speaker 4: but that's what you think, right, and that's what the
Speaker 4: every day person thinks. I've just paid so much money.
Speaker 4: I have just put my body through hell for weeks.
Speaker 4: I've had an operation. I've had all of science's help
Speaker 4: to get what I need and I didn't get anything.
Speaker 4: And that was like, holy smokes, this this is serious,
Speaker 4: you know because the last year or so, I've always
Speaker 4: said it, and I've always joked about, oh, I've got
Speaker 4: my fertility is not great, you know, like it's probably
Speaker 4: gonna be.
Speaker 1: Hard for me.
Speaker 4: But then when you get zero, you're like, oh, this
Speaker 4: is actually really serious. This is not a this is
Speaker 4: not a my fertility is low, this is a far
Speaker 4: out How am I ever going to have a britt
Speaker 4: You were saying you.
Speaker 3: Didn't want to keep talking about it, but your reasoning
Speaker 3: for not wanting to continue talking about it was more
Speaker 3: so because you were like, surely people are sick of
Speaker 3: hearing from it, Like, surely people are sick of hearing
Speaker 3: my story. And I know for you, because you live
Speaker 3: it and you're in it, it feels like it's every
Speaker 3: single day.
Speaker 1: But I can't tell you how.
Speaker 3: Much of a comfort and how much it helps other
Speaker 3: women out there to hear someone's thinking about what it
Speaker 3: is that they're going through, because there's nothing harder than
Speaker 3: when you are trying to for pregnant or you are
Speaker 3: in that process yourself than just seeing happy pregnancy announcements
Speaker 3: and never hearing about all of the work that can
Speaker 3: go into finally getting pregnant for some people. And do
Speaker 3: you know what in saying that, like, we've had people
Speaker 3: calling through while you've been talking about this, Brett.
Speaker 1: We've got Emma, Emma on the line.
Speaker 4: Hi, Emma, Hi guys, Hi Emma, Hi, welcome to pick up.
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting not to call. Thank you.
Speaker 6: No, I was just calling to say a big thank
Speaker 6: you to you, Britt for putting it out there. Because
Speaker 6: it's a pretty isolating situation going through IVF, and it's
Speaker 6: a scary topic that people don't really want to talk
Speaker 6: about or it's a bit too icky and uncomfortable for them,
Speaker 6: so they shy away from it.
Speaker 1: Are you going through it? Have you frozen? Are you?
Speaker 1: Where are you at your journey?
Speaker 6: So we did ovulation induction for and surgeries and all
Speaker 6: kinds of fun things for nearly three years.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 6: And then I do have a little one night to
Speaker 6: go through a lot for him as well. But we
Speaker 6: started IVF in October because I have indemate races and
Speaker 6: polocistikovaries and adam iosis, you name it. I've got the trackector.
Speaker 6: But as you were going through your process, I was
Speaker 6: sort of going through mine and I started all the
Speaker 6: needles and I had to go back on your clips
Speaker 6: because I couldn't like inject them properly. They wouldn't go in.
Speaker 6: I was like, felt like I was stubbing myself with
Speaker 6: a dart.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean I still do. I did that today.
Speaker 1: I was like, get in. I was like, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: I couldn't break the skin.
Speaker 3: Also, you wouldn't think of this like, I mean even
Speaker 3: not just from like an emotional support perspective, but from
Speaker 3: an actual physicality of like how do you do it?
Speaker 3: I think people underestimate how terrifying it might be to
Speaker 3: go home and have to inject yourself and do all
Speaker 3: the hormone stuff that goes along with the fystility.
Speaker 6: Yeah. And I had to psych myself up on that
Speaker 6: because my husband isn't like he's a placement, so he's
Speaker 6: not home to help, and the eye to really work
Speaker 6: my self up to do that first needle, and then
Speaker 6: to have trouble actually breaking the skin was like I
Speaker 6: don't know what to do. So then I remember Britad
Speaker 6: had that problem.
Speaker 2: So I'll go watch brit restabber. So how do I
Speaker 2: do this?
Speaker 1: Move back on that, Emma, how.
Speaker 3: Are the results for you now in terms of where
Speaker 3: your headed with your fertility?
Speaker 1: So they were touching go for a while.
Speaker 6: Their doctors were not happy with my response. I had lots,
Speaker 6: but they were little, so they were going to cancel
Speaker 6: my cycle. Then they changed their mind and they were like, yes,
Speaker 6: we'll keep doing it. So I got four eggs in
Speaker 6: the end who were Bible like mature. Yeah, so it's
Speaker 6: quite deflated by that. Yeah, and I'm turning thirty five
Speaker 6: in a couple of weeks, which is apparently ancient in
Speaker 6: the fertility.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, welcome to the geriatric world.
Speaker 1: That's the word they used, geriac.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But Emma, it sounds like you at least, yeah,
Speaker 4: it sounds like you at least got the one, which
Speaker 4: it's idea, I say, at least, and it's not. It's
Speaker 4: not amazing, but one is one is something to at
Speaker 4: least hold on to, and it's better than nothing.
Speaker 6: And I get my result today, So I have one
Speaker 6: put back in and I've been waiting and being that
Speaker 6: impatient person testing when I'm not meant to test. I
Speaker 6: get good results in a few hours.
Speaker 3: Emma, we are absolutely rooting for you and also brit Like,
Speaker 3: I think, keep sharing because as much as much as
Speaker 3: you think that it's an overshare, and as much as
Speaker 3: you might think that you are giving so much of yourself,
Speaker 3: it really does.
Speaker 1: These conversations really do help women.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I really am just to tie up my update,
Speaker 4: I really am very optimistic about my results this time
Speaker 4: because my doctor has purposely put me on a much
Speaker 4: high doise of hormones, which which makes for a pretty
Speaker 4: chaotic couple of weeks for me, and it's gonna be
Speaker 4: very uncomfortable. But I'm optimistic that because that dose is
Speaker 4: so high, that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a better outcome. Yeah, I went optimistic
Speaker 1: for you too, Emma. Thanks so much.
Speaker 6: Em Thank you, No, thanks, guys, thanks you.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know that we might have touched on
Speaker 3: geriatric and we've definitely spoken about the Golden Bachelor on
Speaker 3: today's show, so it seems like we've got a bit
Speaker 3: of a theme happening here. Now there is a list
Speaker 3: that's going viral online and I wanted to talk about
Speaker 3: all the things that you're not going to do now
Speaker 3: that you're an adult.
Speaker 1: We're back after these here on the pickup Brett. This weekend.
Speaker 3: It is I mean, believe it or not, it feels
Speaker 3: like it's snuck up so quickly. It is mine and
Speaker 3: Mattie Jay's wedding anniversary.
Speaker 1: Wait, so what day.
Speaker 3: It's on Saturday, but we're going to celebrate on Friday
Speaker 3: because the kids are in daycare. Now, I thought I
Speaker 3: would surprise matt we've got the kids in daycare. I
Speaker 3: organized a babysitter, and my plan for the day was
Speaker 3: that we would go from doing something nice during the
Speaker 3: day to like having some cute time in the afternoon.
Speaker 3: Then we'd go out, we'd have some cocktails, we'd be young,
Speaker 3: we'd be fun, and then we'd go for a late
Speaker 3: dinner at eight thirty and then we would cruise on
Speaker 3: into the evening.
Speaker 1: This is very optimistic. You've planned like a fifteen hour day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was like, we need to spend time
Speaker 3: together because we haven't and work has been so busy,
Speaker 3: We've not spent a lot of time together recently, and
Speaker 3: I was like, we can stretch this out. So when
Speaker 3: I caught up the restaurant, they said, we've got two
Speaker 3: seatings available. We've got the six o'clock six fifteen or
Speaker 3: we've got.
Speaker 1: The eight thirty.
Speaker 3: Now six fifteen felt very premature for a celebratory night.
Speaker 1: So I was like, we're going to do it. I
Speaker 1: booked in the eight thirty. You did what I planned everything.
Speaker 3: It was going to be a beautiful and cute night
Speaker 3: for us to really spend some quality time together and
Speaker 3: you know, spend hours in each other's company, which we
Speaker 3: don't get to do very often. And I called Matt
Speaker 3: and I told him exactly what I thought we were
Speaker 3: going to do for our plans for dinner that night.
Speaker 3: He turned around and he was like, he's like, wait,
Speaker 3: what was the what was the Was there no other options?
Speaker 3: And I was like, what do you mean? He's like,
Speaker 3: was there no other options for dinner? And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: there was a six o'clock booking seating. And he was like,
Speaker 3: what are you even talking about? He's like, why would
Speaker 3: you book an eight thirty pm dinner? And I'm yes,
Speaker 3: but it's because it's no Okay, everyone's shaking ahead at
Speaker 3: this la.
Speaker 1: How old are you? Thirty seven? Yeah, you don't go
Speaker 1: out after eight pm.
Speaker 4: It's like the rule you hit thirty five and it's
Speaker 4: pre eight pm, mins.
Speaker 3: I understand this on a normal night, for being our
Speaker 3: wedding anniversary. I thought that this was a time where
Speaker 3: we could really kind of step outside our comfort zone.
Speaker 1: But apparently not, Flora. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what the night is.
Speaker 4: Because at that age, your body won't digest food if
Speaker 4: you eat it.
Speaker 1: And there certainly won't be.
Speaker 3: Any you can't there'll be no hanky panky time happening
Speaker 3: if you're eating an eight thirty sitting.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I think that that was like you broke a cardinal
Speaker 4: rule in a relationship.
Speaker 3: Well, he made me call the restaurant. I had to reorganize.
Speaker 3: It made me feel very just like we can't have
Speaker 3: fun anymore.
Speaker 4: I guarantee you, after a ten hour day of whatever
Speaker 4: fun quote unquote activities you've got planned for you and Matt,
Speaker 4: you're gonna want the six fifteen booking.
Speaker 1: Isn't it funny?
Speaker 4: Thinking like when you really think, what are you too
Speaker 4: old for? Because that's definitely one right, Like I won't
Speaker 4: go out after eight pm, But there's so many things
Speaker 4: in life that like and if you guys are one
Speaker 4: of them. Thirteen one oh six five, let us know
Speaker 4: what you feel like you're too old for. But for me,
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm too old to have bad cheap
Speaker 4: tea towels towels. Oh yeah you are, and shit, yeah,
Speaker 4: now I know that makes me old, and I don't
Speaker 4: care your snob snob.
Speaker 1: If you buy a cheap aberdashery teatael, if you buy
Speaker 1: a cheap tetail, there's nothing worse. It doesn't wipe anything up.
Speaker 1: The water just like runs off it. Cheap sheets, You
Speaker 1: cannot get into a bed of cheap sheets.
Speaker 4: I will spend my life savings on a good like
Speaker 4: one hundred billion thread Egyptian contract.
Speaker 3: But the thing is is this, This just creeps up
Speaker 3: on you right like all of a sudden, It just happens,
Speaker 3: and then you realize, actually, I'm old because once upon
Speaker 3: a time, at eight thirty, sitting for dinner would have
Speaker 3: actually been delightful.
Speaker 1: And now apparently we've passed the point.
Speaker 4: We've got Liz, that's called in Do you think eight
Speaker 4: thirty too late for a dinner?
Speaker 2: Way too late? I'll like be home in bed. I
Speaker 2: want to eat and I want to be home at
Speaker 2: seven point thirty. I feel like I'm too old for
Speaker 2: small talk yes, I'm not having a bar of it,
Speaker 2: and especially at the supermarket, don't come at me with
Speaker 2: your small talk. I'm just at the point now where
Speaker 2: I wear at my air pod and I'm just like
Speaker 2: doing the quick little wave bit not having it.
Speaker 4: I was just about to say, do you put your
Speaker 4: headphones in? But you know what happens when I put
Speaker 4: my headphones in, people still want to talk and they're like, oh.
Speaker 1: Just take it out for a second.
Speaker 2: And I take it out and I'm like, SERI saying,
Speaker 2: because mine are the noise canceloating ones too, so by
Speaker 2: the time you take it out and then you're losing
Speaker 2: more time.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, then if anyone crosses Liz in the banana aisle,
Speaker 4: please steer clear, do not engage in a phone conversation.
Speaker 1: Just got a headphones in, you just keep on walking by.
Speaker 4: I'm taking from this, Laura that the general consensus is
Speaker 4: you made a grave arrow By book in.
Speaker 1: An eight thirty appointment. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've taken that on board. And I feel
Speaker 3: like Matt was very He was like personally offended that
Speaker 3: I would have thought otherwise.
Speaker 4: Well, why don't we ask Matt because Maddie Jay and
Speaker 4: his partner in crime, Ash are coming into studio after
Speaker 4: the break to talk about November.
Speaker 1: We're back after these here on the pickup.
Speaker 3: All right, Britt, you might have seen some luscious mustaches
Speaker 3: walking around at the moment, and that is because we're
Speaker 3: in the thick of November. So you know, we're in
Speaker 3: the month of November and for anyone who doesn't know,
Speaker 3: November is our time to unite to take on mental health,
Speaker 3: side prevention, prostate cancer and testicular cancer and raise awareness
Speaker 3: for that. Now, we have two exceptionally luscious mustaches here
Speaker 3: in the studio today.
Speaker 1: I believe it or not, it is not mine.
Speaker 3: Look, I mean I do alright on a you know,
Speaker 3: on a day as well. But we have my husband,
Speaker 3: Maddy Jay, who has been sporting one for the last
Speaker 3: few days. And we also have Ash wigs and they
Speaker 3: are from the podcast Two Doting Dads, and they are
Speaker 3: the ambassadors for November this year.
Speaker 1: Hi, guys, welcome to the studio.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having Okay, I need to you to be
Speaker 4: really honest, both of you. These mustaches look like they're
Speaker 4: being grown a lot longer than a week.
Speaker 1: Do you get a head start on November?
Speaker 7: Mine's permanent so and look for me, I was like,
Speaker 7: I'm not going to start again.
Speaker 3: A big.
Speaker 1: Reason behind that is because.
Speaker 7: It's I mean, it's I sort of feel pretty protected
Speaker 7: behind my mustache and I wasn't willing to give up
Speaker 7: on it, which even for a moment.
Speaker 5: Which is part of the reason why I wanted to
Speaker 5: get ahead head start. And I have copped a lot
Speaker 5: of slack for this that people were saying that you
Speaker 5: have to clean shave by November one and then start
Speaker 5: growing and I'm.
Speaker 7: Like, shut up, cat.
Speaker 3: Do you know what though, this is what people don't
Speaker 3: know about you, Matt. You've got really weak facial hair,
Speaker 3: and so you need like just like personality a month
Speaker 3: leader at this moment spoken like.
Speaker 1: A true co host.
Speaker 3: You need like a month lead up to get that
Speaker 3: sort of like fullness to your upper lip.
Speaker 5: I have had a lot of compliments though, people have
Speaker 5: literally stopped in their tracks and looked at me and gone, wow,
Speaker 5: that is impressive.
Speaker 1: What a slug, which is it's really great to hear.
Speaker 7: I think whether if you're clean shave or you're sporting mustache,
Speaker 7: what's important is that you've got the mustache, because then
Speaker 7: we start talking about it, right.
Speaker 4: How funny that there's actually it's so competitive though, like
Speaker 4: you're raising money for charity and awareness, but people are
Speaker 4: still like you had a two day head start. But
Speaker 4: the statistics are alarming. Around ten point eight million globally
Speaker 4: facing life with prostate cancer diagnosis. Testicular cancer is the
Speaker 4: most common cancer around young men. One man dies by
Speaker 4: suicide every minute of the day, which is which is
Speaker 4: crazy to concerned, crazy statistics, very concerning.
Speaker 1: What made you guys want to jump on board?
Speaker 7: Well, for me, since since having kids, my mental health
Speaker 7: has been a priority. I mean I was suffering very
Speaker 7: early on and thankfully found my voice and was encouraged
Speaker 7: to talk and glad I did because it probably saved
Speaker 7: my life in the end.
Speaker 4: Ash, Do you mean that you were struggling early on
Speaker 4: with adapting to a new lifestyle being a dad.
Speaker 7: Or yeah, yeah, I mean I always say like, I
Speaker 7: can't remember what my life was like before kids, but
Speaker 7: since having kids, early on really struggled and now I've
Speaker 7: got two happy and healthy kids and the relationship between
Speaker 7: them is so much better. That my wife encouraged me
Speaker 7: to go and you know, open my mouth and hopefully
Speaker 7: just me being able to tell people that I can
Speaker 7: get one person to do the same and potentially save
Speaker 7: their lives if possible.
Speaker 1: Was it challenging for you?
Speaker 3: And I don't mean in terms of mental health, but
Speaker 3: I mean in terms of speaking about it, because I
Speaker 3: mean traditionally that's what we see right that men. We
Speaker 3: know that there is a huge issue with mental health,
Speaker 3: but it is the fact that men have not been
Speaker 3: conditioned to talk about their feelings, to talk about what
Speaker 3: they're experiencing. And I know that we can wear I
Speaker 3: mean we can't, but you guys can wear a mustache.
Speaker 3: That really kind of brings these conversations to the forefront.
Speaker 3: But as ambassadors you have to have them. Is that
Speaker 3: not something that's a bit scary to do?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Early on, like the conversation, I always thought like, oh,
Speaker 7: what's more important is like my wife's health, my kid's health.
Speaker 7: But you know, putting myself first was hard. But the
Speaker 7: encouragement for my wife and family and knowing that I
Speaker 7: wasn't getting any better and everyone else was Yeah. I
Speaker 7: just went and spoke to a GP and felt really empowered.
Speaker 5: Actually, in this relationship, I've definitely got it a lot
Speaker 5: easier than Ash. I'm just like I'm growing the mustache poorly,
Speaker 5: but I'm still trying. But I'm really just heroing Ash
Speaker 5: and being like Loo, look at Ash's situation is such
Speaker 5: a poster child for doing the right thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think you undervalue how important it is
Speaker 3: having friends in our lives who allow for these conversations
Speaker 3: to be had and you know, to recognize in someone
Speaker 3: when they're going through a hard time and having the
Speaker 3: space to allow people to talk through what it is
Speaker 3: that they're experiencing. And I think that that goes for everybody,
Speaker 3: that we can create more space for these really difficult conversations.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think even just the act of talking, like
Speaker 7: we were talking yesterday, mat about you know, if someone
Speaker 7: was to open up to me, they might not want
Speaker 7: the solution, They just want me to listen. And that's
Speaker 7: really important. And I know a lot of my friends
Speaker 7: have come to me and even just with something really minor,
Speaker 7: just just to chat about it and it might actually
Speaker 7: be really relieving for them. But I don't have the answer,
Speaker 7: but just someone to listen really important.
Speaker 3: If people want to get involved in November, what is
Speaker 3: the like how do they get involved? And I don't
Speaker 3: just mean growing a mustache so that there's visibility, but like,
Speaker 3: how can people actually be helpful to this?
Speaker 5: Well, I think it can be a case of just
Speaker 5: prioritizing their own mental health and if they're not feeling
Speaker 5: quite right, then reaching out to say, whether it be
Speaker 5: a friend or you know, could be a GP and
Speaker 5: just discussing the situation, or it could be you know,
Speaker 5: looking at your close circle of friends and those mates
Speaker 5: if someone seems a little bit off speaking to them
Speaker 5: and like Ash said, not trying to find the solutions,
Speaker 5: but just being a set of ears that they can
Speaker 5: just hear as they open up. I think is really important.
Speaker 4: And I think what you said, Ash is is so true.
Speaker 4: The more you talk about it, the easier it becomes,
Speaker 4: and the more you rip that bandit if you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: there's not as much stigma attached to this as I
Speaker 4: actually thought there were. So you guys, I mean, we
Speaker 4: applaud you. You're doing amazing things. Answer the call change
Speaker 4: the face of men's health. You can donate now at
Speaker 4: November dot com. Thank you so much for coming in, guys,
Speaker 4: and don't forget. If you guys would like to win
Speaker 4: a five hundred dollars Chemist Warehouse voucher, you can head
Speaker 4: to the Pickup dot com dot Au and tell us
Speaker 4: how you got petty revenge. Laura, I'd like to see
Speaker 4: you with mustache next year.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I have fun those days
Speaker 1: to anything for men's mental health. Guys, thanks so much
Speaker 1: for coming in today. Thanks for having us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also for all the amazing work that you're
Speaker 3: doing for men's too health.
Speaker 1: It really is amazing shop.
Speaker 4: And if people do want to find more, I mean
Speaker 4: they can see you on Instagram, TikTok everywhere.
Speaker 1: But you can also listen to your podcast on the iheartapp.
Speaker 4: It's two doting dads where you have these incredible conversations.
Speaker 1: So we can't thank you enough.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having us answer the call change the phase
Speaker 4: of men's health. You can donate now at November dot com.
Speaker 4: Such an important cause, and don't forget if you'd like
Speaker 4: a five hundred dollars chemist Warehouse vouchert you can head
Speaker 4: to the Pickup dot com dot Au and tell us.
Speaker 1: How you got your petty revenge. Well, that is it
Speaker 1: from us today, guys, see you later. Bye,