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<v Speaker 1>Already and this this is the Daily This is the

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<v Speaker 1>Daily OS.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, now it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Friday,

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<v Speaker 3>the thirty first of May.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Zara, I'm Sam.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been a big couple of weeks for Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>whose first criminal case has just wrapped up after a

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<v Speaker 3>five week trial. The trial centered on Trump's alleged cover

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<v Speaker 3>up of a hush money payment to adult film star

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<v Speaker 3>Stormy Daniels in the run up to the twenty sixteen election.

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<v Speaker 3>In today's part that we are going to cover off

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<v Speaker 3>on the trial itself, how it came to be, and

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<v Speaker 3>what it means for the presidential hopeful. But first, Sam,

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<v Speaker 3>what's making headlines.

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<v Speaker 2>A parliamentary committee has recommended the federal government establish Australia's

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<v Speaker 2>first ever Human Rights Act. Committee chair Labour MP Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Burns said it would require Parliament to expressly consider human

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<v Speaker 2>rights when making laws. The Australian Human Rights Commission welcomes

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<v Speaker 2>the recommendations, saying people's rights and well being should be

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<v Speaker 2>front of mind when laws are formulated. The President of

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<v Speaker 2>the AHRC described Australia's current framework as quote outdated, ineffective

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<v Speaker 2>and in desperate need of reform.

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<v Speaker 3>Fourteen pro democracy advocates in Hong Kong have been found

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<v Speaker 3>guilty of what's called subversion, which is risking national security

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<v Speaker 3>under a China imposed security law. There is an Australian

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<v Speaker 3>dual citizen who is among those who was found guilty.

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<v Speaker 3>Sentencing is expected to come at a later date, where

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<v Speaker 3>those found guilty could face between three years and a

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<v Speaker 3>lifetime in prison. The guilty rulings come after forty seven

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<v Speaker 3>people were arrested in Hong Kong in twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>due to the security law imposed by China. Two people

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<v Speaker 3>have been cleared of charges, but local authorities are expected

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<v Speaker 3>to appeal that decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria police have arrested four men for allegedly recruiting children

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<v Speaker 2>as young as twelve to steal more than two million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars in cash and cigarettes from service stations. More than

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<v Speaker 2>twenty children were allegedly involved in over one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>forty cigarette thefts and armed robberies across the eastern suburbs

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<v Speaker 2>of Melbourne. Police also seized over two hundred cannabis plants,

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<v Speaker 2>nearly two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in cash, luxury

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<v Speaker 2>items and weapons enacting inspector said, quote concerningly, a significant

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<v Speaker 2>proportion of these children were already known to Victoria Police.

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<v Speaker 3>In today's good news, Vahine Fierro has become the first

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<v Speaker 3>Tahitian woman to win a famous surfing competition in Tahiti.

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<v Speaker 3>She was awarded the title of twenty twenty four Tahiti Pro.

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<v Speaker 3>The World Surf League said that this will quote go

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<v Speaker 3>down as one of the most culturally important days in

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<v Speaker 3>competitive surfing history. The twenty four year old will compete

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<v Speaker 3>at the Paris Olympics, where as surfing events will be

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<v Speaker 3>held on the French island. Donald Trump has been found

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<v Speaker 3>guilty by a jury after a crimminal trial that lasted

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<v Speaker 3>five weeks. Hearings in former US president Donald Trump's first

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<v Speaker 3>criminal trial have finally wrapped up after five weeks in

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<v Speaker 3>a US court.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into it now.

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<v Speaker 3>The trial did center on Trump's alleged cover up of

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<v Speaker 3>a hush money payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels,

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<v Speaker 3>and that was in the lead up to the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen presidential election. Now, over the course of the trial,

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<v Speaker 3>we heard from more than twenty witnesses, or rather the

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<v Speaker 3>jury had from more than twenty witnesses, and this is

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<v Speaker 3>the first criminal trial, as I said, that the former

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<v Speaker 3>president has faced, so it's a fairly big one.

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<v Speaker 2>But he does have a couple of cases on the

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<v Speaker 2>go here, and it can get a bit confusing to

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<v Speaker 2>remember which one is which and in which jurisdiction he's

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<v Speaker 2>facing what charges. This one is really significant because of

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<v Speaker 2>that criminal element. Run me through the basics of the case.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So, during his twenty sixteen presidential election campaign, Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump arranged for an one hundred and thirty thousand US

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<v Speaker 3>dollar payment to be made to adult film star Stormy Daniels,

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<v Speaker 3>that's about two hundred K, who claims to have had

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<v Speaker 3>sex with him a decade earlier. Now, Trump instructed his

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<v Speaker 3>then lawyer, Michael Cohen, and we'll speak about him a

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<v Speaker 3>bit later, to facilitate the payment to Daniels in exchange

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<v Speaker 3>for her silence. It's then alleged that Trump falsified multiple

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<v Speaker 3>business records to hide that payment, and that is a

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<v Speaker 3>criminal offense in the US state of New York. He

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<v Speaker 3>pleaded not guilty to thirty four charges in New York's

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<v Speaker 3>Supreme Court. Here's how the former president saw the case himself.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all.

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<v Speaker 3>Election hunting, elected interfering.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going after Joe Biden's political opponent because he can't

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<v Speaker 1>do it himself, and they're helping out. And we have

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<v Speaker 1>a jog who's highly conflicted. He happens to be corrupt.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye stars confliction. It st worst than anybody's seen. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>don't have seen anything like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So unsurprisingly, Donald Trump has quite a clear and

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<v Speaker 2>strong sense of how he feels about this case. Talk

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<v Speaker 2>me through what actually happens though through the trial.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, as with any trial, there are ups

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<v Speaker 3>and downs, there are witnesses, but very rarely in a

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<v Speaker 3>trial do we hear about one of the key people

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<v Speaker 3>actually being fined. So during this trial, Trump violated a

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<v Speaker 3>court order the banned him from making public statements about

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<v Speaker 3>jurors and witnesses outside of court. So the court found

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<v Speaker 3>Trump also posted about the trial on his social media

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<v Speaker 3>platform truth Social, which he also wasn't allowed to do,

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<v Speaker 3>and this led him being found in contempt of court twice.

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<v Speaker 3>So he was find a total of ten thousand US

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<v Speaker 3>dollars and that was not even related to the case itself,

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<v Speaker 3>that was what was just happening in the court. So

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<v Speaker 3>a fairly expensive experience for Donald Trump when we haven't

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<v Speaker 3>even considered the charges at hand here.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to turn nowt to who we heard

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<v Speaker 2>from during the trial, and one of those people was

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<v Speaker 2>Stormy Daniels herself. She's at the center of this story, right.

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<v Speaker 3>She is so. Stormy Daniels herself appeared in the witness

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<v Speaker 3>box where she detailed an alleged sexual encounter with Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump at a US resort back in two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 3>It is important to note here that Trump denies ever

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<v Speaker 3>having had sex with Daniels after Daniels's testimony, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not really going to go into it. It's fairly sallacious,

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<v Speaker 3>and you've told me things that I want to unhear

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<v Speaker 3>fair enough, but the justice in the case said that

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<v Speaker 3>some of the evidence that she gave would have probably

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<v Speaker 3>been quote better left unsaid, which is a fairly remarkable

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<v Speaker 3>thing to say about evidence, and that was in response

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<v Speaker 3>to Trump's lawyers trying to get the case itself thrown

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<v Speaker 3>out as a mistrial.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to the Netflix series about this case.

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<v Speaker 2>Who else did we hear from, though.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the other star witness was Trump's ex lawyer Michael Cohen,

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<v Speaker 3>who I mentioned earlier, who admitted to organizing the payments

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<v Speaker 3>to Stormy Daniels on Donald Trump's behalf. He also admitted

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<v Speaker 3>to suppressing negative stories about Trump to avoid them being

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<v Speaker 3>reported on in the media. He also claimed that Trump

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<v Speaker 3>reimbursed him for the payment, but attempted to disguise the

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<v Speaker 3>funds as legitimate legal expenses.

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<v Speaker 2>So it seems like Michael Cohen is another one of

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<v Speaker 2>those kind of Trump insiders who was a strong ally

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<v Speaker 2>of the former president and is now a key witness

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<v Speaker 2>against him. But it feels like every day with this case,

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<v Speaker 2>there was just more salacious detail. When the two sides

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<v Speaker 2>had to bring everything together, how did they summarize and

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<v Speaker 2>close their arguments?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, Trump, who in this case is the defendant,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't give evidence during the trial.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't have to, right, No.

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<v Speaker 3>So his lawyers called just two witnesses to the stand

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<v Speaker 3>throughout the whole trial. The prosecutions lawyers, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 3>they summoned more than twenty witnesses that included, as I said,

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<v Speaker 3>Daniels and Michael Cohen. In closing arguments from the defense,

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's lawyers tried to discredit Michael Cohen. They called him

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<v Speaker 3>the gloat which is the greatest.

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<v Speaker 2>Liar of all time, might borrow that one honestly love it,

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<v Speaker 2>might use it.

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<v Speaker 3>The prosecution's closing argument lasted over five hours and saw

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<v Speaker 3>me Daniels's lawyers accused Trump of overseeing a conspiracy and

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<v Speaker 3>a cover up to help him win the twenty sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>presidential election.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm keen to talk about the impact of all

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<v Speaker 2>of this on the upcoming presidential election, where Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>likely the Republican candidate. Before that, I saw heaps of

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<v Speaker 2>videos online of Robert de Niro. The aptor outside court

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<v Speaker 2>was he wasn't involved directly with the case, right, No, So.

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<v Speaker 3>This is one of those interesting things where we're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to make sense of a news story and you might

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<v Speaker 3>have seen this. I mean, I know it was all

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<v Speaker 3>over my TikTok for example. So Robert de Niro and

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<v Speaker 3>members of Joe Biden's reelection campaign made an appearance outside

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<v Speaker 3>the courthouse at the end of the trial. De Niro,

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<v Speaker 3>fair to say, doesn't think very highly of Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>called him a tyrant and a danger to the lives

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<v Speaker 3>of Americans. He said, and I quote here, if Trump

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<v Speaker 3>returns to the White House, you can kiss your freedoms goodbye.

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<v Speaker 3>He got into a bit of a tussle with some

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<v Speaker 3>of the Trump supporters who tried to interrupt his press conference.

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<v Speaker 3>I would play a bit of it here, but there

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<v Speaker 3>is a fair bit of bleeping on both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>Theresider is still a family show.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't see Ada Ei though, that is for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, that's why Robert de Niro is somehow involved

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<v Speaker 3>with this story.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's the case. And now obviously overnight we've

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<v Speaker 2>received this guilty verdict. What happens now, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think the most important thing to say

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<v Speaker 3>from the outset is that this does not hamper Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's ability to run for president.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though he's been found guilty in the criminal trial.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, legally, nothing has changed logistically. If he then is imprisoned,

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<v Speaker 3>if that is what the sentence is, that will be

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<v Speaker 3>difficult for him. You know, he would much prefer to

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<v Speaker 3>be out on the campaign trail then to be in prison.

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<v Speaker 3>But it doesn't actually legally impact his right to run

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<v Speaker 3>for president.

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<v Speaker 2>This remarkable story of the US twin twenty four presidential

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<v Speaker 2>election continues for now with the same two main characters

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<v Speaker 2>seemingly in front. Zara Will have to kind of track

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<v Speaker 2>this one day by day because I think there's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a few twists and turns we will.

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<v Speaker 3>I will not be the person tracking that day by

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<v Speaker 3>day because I am off for a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 3>on my honeymoon. So I will be back on the

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<v Speaker 3>pod in July, but until then, thank you for supporting

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