1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: hottest influenza and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Sky Wheatley 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: shares her dramatic transformation following fox eye surgery, Lucy Jackson 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: slams cheating boyfriend a day after he moved in, and 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro turns into a snake catcher. But first, Sophy 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: my TikTok for some reason has been serving me up 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: a lot of content around diet coke at the moment, 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: and there is a whole subculture of people who were 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: just obsessed with trying to track down and create the 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: crispiest diet coke. I don't know if you've seen this content. 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: We have to have pabble dice and a glass cup, 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: probably a glass cup that's been sitting in the freezer 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: for a couple hours. 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: We are sen in a glass strap. 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 3: Do you hear how crispy that is? 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: That's going to be a beautiful diet cup. Kind of 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: get it. I would think that I'm a bit of 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: a coke connoisseur. It is my drink of choice. I'm 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: a coke, no sugar person, and I think that it 21 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: tastes so different in a can, in a bottle, in 22 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: a large bottle, from the tap. I mean it's the 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: worst in the tap. There are some people on TikTok 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: who love a McDonald's coke and they swear that that 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: is the best way it surf, but personally, I think 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: it's the worst. There's something in it that makes me 27 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: need to go to the toilet for all the time. 28 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: I think it's the ice that makes it taste really 29 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: good though, because I'm saying I don't like it, no, 30 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: but I actually do. I get around that more. I 31 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: get it now because before I would have said no, no, 32 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 1: in a can's best, but it's not. You need the ice. 33 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: I think a can of coke can taste just as good, 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: but it has to be really cold. And this is 35 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: where one TikToker has come up with the theory of 36 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: marinating a coke. So she's called Christine Hollinghouse, and basically 37 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: her rule of thumb is that you have to keep 38 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: a can of coke in the fridge upwards of ten 39 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: days and then that's when it reaches its absolute peak 40 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: coldness and crispiness. It has to be a bit misty 41 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: on the outside of the can to be marinated enough 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: to drink it. 43 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: We take the day of coke, we put it in 44 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: the fridge, We let it sit and marinate for multiple 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: days at a time, and then you get this and 46 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: it becomes crispy and delicious and it's marinated. 47 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: My partner recently bought a slab of Cocono sugars, and 48 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: we've had half sitting on top of the fridge and 49 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: half in the fridge. And we got to the rotation 50 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: where there was only one marinated coke left, and I 51 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: put the bunch of warm cans in the fridge, thinking 52 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: I've done the good deed. I'm calling these ones up. 53 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: I will have the marinated can for dinner. But he's 54 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: snuck in and got it first. And I can tell 55 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: you that there is a big difference between a warm 56 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: can and a marinade. Oh definitely. How do you think 57 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: you would go in one of those blind tastings where 58 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: you have to pick if it's a bottle, if it's 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: a can, or if it is a McDonald's diet coke. 60 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: I would be banging on like I'm pretty confident I 61 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: could tell the difference straightaway. Well, I think we should 62 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: put you to that test. I also consider myself a 63 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: coke zero and diet coke connoisseur. I challenge you. I 64 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: think we need a prize, so whoever loses has to 65 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: buy the winner a slab of diet coke. 66 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: What the hell? I never thought I would be thirty 67 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 3: four and get cheated on by a bloke that draws like. 68 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: What. Podcast host Lucy Jackson has dramatically split with her 69 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: boyfriend Sam a day after he moved in The Happy Hour. 70 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: Host broke the news on TikTok by miming this line 71 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: from the song man Eater. 72 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 4: Honestly, you guys, du am a service. 73 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: He needs money, but there are now Over the top 74 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: of the video, she wrote looking for a roommate, so 75 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: her followers instantly news she was talking about Sam, and 76 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: in the comment section, one of the loyal punters wrote, 77 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: expose him, to which Lucy replied, he cheated on me 78 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: and that's the beginning. Well, since that comment, Sam has 79 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: changed his username, so now when you search him, he 80 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: has no profile picture and his Instagram at handle just 81 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: reads user six ' five nine something along those lines. 82 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: He clearly does not want to cop the wrath of 83 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: Lucy's fans. No, I don't think I would either. People 84 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: have been so upset about this. I keep saying. It 85 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: posted in a ton of different Facebook groups, And I 86 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: think that the reason why people are so upset is 87 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: before Lucy met Sam, she said that she'd given up 88 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: on the whole idea of falling in love and she'd 89 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: been single for three years and she was very much 90 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: over the dating scene. But she gave Sam a go. 91 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: And it seemed like Sam was one of those guys 92 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: that she wouldn't normally date because apparently she had a 93 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: huge ick list and her top three x were all 94 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: things that he did. What were they well? On their 95 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: first date he wore low cut vans and that was 96 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: literally at the top of her list that she hates 97 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: low cut fans. He also can't eat spicy food, he 98 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: hates coriander, and he's a very fussy eater. And the 99 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: last one is that he doesn't cook. So these were 100 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: a few red flags for her initially, and she still 101 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: gave the guy go. That's just unfair. I mean it 102 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: kind of reiterates that maybe you should stick to some 103 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: of your ick list. But yeah, but when you're in 104 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: a relationship, you sort of forget about those icks and 105 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: you it's more important whether they're a nice persee, so 106 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: that becomes bigger issues, like when someone cheats on you. Well, exactly. 107 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: The thing is these two men on hinge and it 108 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: was actually one of the first hinge dates that Lucy 109 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: went on the Gold Coast because before she would meet 110 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: people online but they were living into state. But this 111 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: was the first guy that she felt like things weren't 112 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: complicated with. He just seemed like a nice guy. He 113 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: didn't play any games. Is that a red flag in 114 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: itself as well, because sometimes the nice guys are the 115 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: bigger dickhead, So now we have to be cautious of 116 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: the fuck boys and the nice guys well pretty much. 117 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean, things didn't really go smooth staling at first though, 118 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: because Lucy said she kept fine reasons to not be 119 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: with him. So when she got back, they started dating seriously, 120 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: and you could tell that she really liked him because 121 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: she started sharing him on socials more, she started speaking 122 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: about him on her podcast. They also recently traveled to 123 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: Europe together where they celebrated Nicki's Hen's party and there 124 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: was so many cute loved up videos of them in Italy, 125 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: and Lucy opened up that you know, she was taking 126 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: the chance and he was going to be moving in 127 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: with her. Well, the extra fucked bit was it was 128 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: only two weeks ago that they exchanged their first I 129 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: love yous and then Sam of course moved into the house. Well, 130 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: the day after he moved in, this is when the 131 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: shit hit the fan, because they went out to dinner 132 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: and Lucy discovered that he had been cheating on her 133 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: with multiple women. Here's what Lucy said on TikTok. 134 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: I found out on Wednesday night, after we'd gone out 135 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 3: for dinner that I'd been cheated on with multiple people, 136 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: not just one. And I think for the first like 137 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: forty eight hours, I was like really running off adrenaline 138 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: and like I was when I'm really sad or angry, 139 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: I like actually am pretty dark and like a bit funny. 140 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: So I think I've been like one of those funny 141 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: moods where you're kind of just like making a joke 142 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: out of it. Like last night I went out for 143 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: drinks with my girlfriends and I literally walked in and 144 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: was like, cheers to getting cheated on. 145 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, It's interesting timing, and it makes 146 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: me wonder did Sam bring something incriminating into the house 147 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: when he moved in, Because sometimes when you live away 148 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: from your partner, you don't have access to say their 149 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: eye messages on their computer, and sometimes people can get 150 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: caught out when you say something incriminating. What did he 151 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: have a girl's pair of underpants? Maybe she's suddenly got 152 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: access to his phone. He's been out or here his 153 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: computer on his eye messages and seen incriminating messages. You 154 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: know what. Men are stupid though, Maybe he thought, well, 155 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: we've now said I love you, we're kind of official. 156 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: Because of that, I'm moving in. Maybe I'll clear the 157 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: air and say, hey, whilst we weren't so serious, I 158 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: hooked up with a couple of girls. I think the 159 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: way that Lucy has reacted, though, doesn't tie in with 160 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: her being told about it. I think she's found out 161 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: and she's angry. She said that she isn't usually an 162 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: oversharer on social media, but she felt compelled to document 163 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: her feelings through this breakup because she thought it might 164 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: help someone else who's going through something similar. She's probably 165 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: embarrassed as well, because she is very well known and 166 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: it sounds like it was multiple people that he cheated 167 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: on her with, and the Gold Coast is small, like 168 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: everyone seems to know each other. She also said that 169 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: she wanted to share about it because she's never going 170 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: to get back with Sam, so she has nothing to protect, 171 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: and whilst she was trying to put on a brave face, 172 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: it is clear that this breakup is affecting her more 173 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: than she'd like to lead on. Here's what she said. 174 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 3: I think this morning is the first time that I've 175 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: woken up and I feel like I truly feel like 176 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: really sad. I'm also extremely hungover, which is probably not helping, 177 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: but like I'm just about to go to one of 178 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: my friend's baby showers, and I'm like, fuck, I was 179 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: just so ready to have like my person, Like I 180 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: think I was just like, you know, so ready to 181 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: move into that next chapter. And i just think I'm 182 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 3: just like, really, it's really hitting me today that I'm 183 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: like I could square one with it, Like I'd rather 184 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: be on my own than obviously be with someone who's 185 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: cheating on me, like obviously, but I don't know. Today 186 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: it's the first day that I've just felt quite sad 187 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 3: and just like really felt the like I like, can 188 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: feel lonely, and I kind of wish I could talk 189 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: to him about it and be comforted by him, even 190 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: though he's a person that did the wrong thing to me. 191 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: I think that so many people could relate to that 192 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: feeling of being back at square one. She'd just been 193 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: vulnerable and finally opened up to someone, and for him 194 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: to then turn around and she on her with not 195 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: only one person, but multiple people when she thought, Wow, 196 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: this is a genuine nice guy I can actually see 197 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: myself with would be so heartbreaking. And also I saw 198 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: her saying that she'd actually put her walls down and 199 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: she tried not to be so down on men, like, yeah, 200 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: felt like she'd actually had this nice guy come into 201 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: her life. And she was saying she doesn't then want 202 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: to turn back into kind of a quote man hater. Yeah, 203 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: she said she didn't want it to harden her. I 204 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: just think it's so tough being single in your thirties, 205 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: because particularly how she referenced that she was on her 206 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: way to a baby shower. It's really hard because all 207 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: these women are in different stages of their lives, but 208 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: you're the same age. Yeah, and it's hard not to 209 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: you're happy for your friends, but it'd also be hard 210 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: not to have a level of jealousy and think, well, 211 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: is this ever going to happen to me? If that's 212 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: something that you want later in Yeah, and also the 213 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: fact that her best friend Nikki is getting married soon. 214 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: She's just been at her hen's party as well. It's 215 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: not good. I was really interested to look at the 216 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: comment section, and as we touched on earlier, she has 217 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: received an outpouring of support from listeners and they are 218 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: all backing her. I did spy Olivia Rogers calling Sam 219 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: a dirty dog under one of Lucy's videos, which is 220 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: kind of interesting because you know how Morgan Waterhouse came 221 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: out and all of his friends sort of backed him up. Again, 222 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: this was in a different sentiment though, because this guy 223 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: has cheated, he's been public exposed. Well, yeah, this guy 224 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: is a dirty dog. I kind of love that Olivia 225 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: went there same. It was just sort of interesting the 226 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: irony of her ex's friends slagging her off as a 227 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: difference between the way they spoke about Olivia, though, I 228 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: feel like they spoke about her in such a disrespectful manner. 229 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: Calling someone a dirty dog is a little bit difficult, 230 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: and how they spoke about her, and they were also 231 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: hurling allegations at her. Yeah Now. On Sunday, Lucy gave 232 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: an update on her TikTok, and she explained that she'd 233 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: recorded a lot of videos, but she didn't want to 234 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: post them because she started feeling anxious about oversharing and 235 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: making matters worse, and she urged her followers not to 236 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: bully Sam or send him nasty comments, but reiterated that 237 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: she loved how loyal the punters were. Is it terrible 238 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: that I'm so nosy that I'm thinking, can she share 239 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: those videos? 240 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 241 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: I really want to. I really want to know exactly 242 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: what happened. Surely they will address it on the podcast. 243 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: I think that they will save it for the podcast. 244 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm not a regular Happy Hour listener, but I think 245 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: I've got to start getting into it because this is 246 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: going to be juicy when this unfolds. Oh, it will 247 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: be one I will definitely be tuning into. 248 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: It's good to be open and honest about it, and 249 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 4: I'm here to answer any questions. 250 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: After an anxious wait, Sky Wheatley re emerged on social 251 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: media three days after undergoing fox eye surgery in Turkey. 252 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: The former Big Brother contestant initially refused to show her 253 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: face in the healing stage, saying it looked too horrific now, 254 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: so if her radio silence left. Many fans consented, including you. Oh. 255 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: I was feeling really unnerved about the whole thing. After 256 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: our episode dropped on Tuesday. I just kept finding myself 257 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: revisiting her profile. I wanted to see how she was traveling. 258 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: We also usually put out promo clips for the episode, 259 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: and I just didn't feel right about putting a reel 260 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: together about her surgery because I thought, what if something 261 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: has gone on. I became particularly concerned when I noticed 262 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: that her Instagram story had been taken down. So that 263 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: was a story of her being wheeled into surgery, and 264 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: in the photo she was in her hospital gown and 265 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: she wrote feel like I could vomit. Haha, it's happening now. 266 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: This wasn't up for twenty four hours. This was up 267 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: for about nine hours, and then out of nowhere, it 268 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: had been removed, And I thought, oh my god, what 269 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: if the worst has happened and her family have gone 270 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: into her account and removed it because they didn't want 271 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: to promote the clinic or the surge. Well, a lot 272 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: of her followers had the same thoughts because they were 273 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: commenting under her previous TikTok video and they were all 274 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: discussing their concerns. So one said, is she okay? She 275 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: hasn't been on in days, while another said I've been 276 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: checking now. Another person said, I know, I'm really worried too. Yeah. Well, 277 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: fears about Sky had really been amplified by TikToker Sharie 278 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: Morris's horrifying experience in Turkey. So she is an Australian 279 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: makeup party. She has over five hundred thousand followers on TikTok. Now. 280 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: She recently traveled to Turkey to have a breast reduction 281 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: and lift, and she'd previously been there the year prior 282 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: to have a tummy tuck and for that surgery she 283 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: actually had a collaboration with another surgeon. Now, the breast 284 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: reduction and lyft didn't go quite so well because forty 285 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: eight hours after the surgery, she started developing a fever 286 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: and chills and her doctor told her to just turn 287 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: the air conditioner down. He said, that's that's what the 288 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: issue is. So she created a story time video detailing 289 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: what actually went down. She posted this in May and 290 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: it was very graphic if you do go and have 291 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: a look at it. She showed a lot of close 292 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: up photos of an infection that was forming underneath the fold. 293 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: Now let's go too far into it because it gets 294 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: really gross. Well no, but so she raised the concern 295 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: with her doctor, who said, you're fine and you're ready 296 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: to board the flight home to Australia. So she flew 297 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: home in this state and she she had a photo. 298 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: It showed she had a T shirt on and the 299 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: back of the T shirt was drenched in blood. Once 300 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: she was back in Australia, she was rushed in for 301 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: emergency surgery and she had a ton of infections, the 302 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: worst being sepsis. So she was fighting for her life 303 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: and she said, it's been the scariest thing I've ever experienced. 304 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm still fighting the infection, still recovering from the second surgery, 305 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: and now have a machine attached twenty four to seven 306 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: to help me heal now after this experience, as you can, 307 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: And she said that she is done with surgery, full life. 308 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: Poor girl. 309 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 5: Now. 310 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: I think everyone let out a collective sigh of relief 311 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: when Sky finally resurfaced three days later online and the 312 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: surgery sounded intense. Sky said she couldn't open her eyes 313 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: for three days, which explains why she wasn't able to 314 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: go onto her well. She revealed that she was quite 315 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: relieved because initially she was going to travel to Turkey 316 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: alone for the surgery, but she ended up taking a 317 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: friend with her who also got the Fox eye lift 318 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: and veneers. So she said that did they do it 319 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: the same time? No, they did the videos first, but 320 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: she said that if she hadn't traveled with a friend, 321 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: she would have felt very unsafe being in a foreign 322 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: hospital with practically no eyesight. Now, once she was back 323 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: in her hotel room recovering, she shared a question box 324 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: encouraging her followers to submit questions about the surgery. But 325 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: at this point she hadn't actually shared a photo or 326 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: video of what her face was like after the surgery. No, 327 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: and that was one of the top questions. So someone said, 328 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: can we see what your face looks like after surgery? 329 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: So she replied, showing her recovering in her hotel bed, 330 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: but her face was strategically cut out of it, and 331 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: she wrote, Haha, Nah, it's horrific, but I know that 332 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: this is how it's going to look right now. I'm 333 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: trusting the process. I've logged it all two so you 334 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: guys can see each day what it looks like when 335 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: I upload the video. I think the reason Sky was 336 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: initially reluctant to show her face is because she knows 337 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: that publications like the Daily Mail are going to take 338 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: that photo and they're going to plaster it everywhere and 339 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: say the surgery is botched. They're not going to point 340 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: out that this is the healing stage. 341 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 3: Now. 342 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: Even social media, i mean TikTok images of her face 343 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: looking like that would go viral. Yeah, and it's at 344 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: its stage where it is going to look very inflamed 345 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: and puffy. You've really got to give something like this 346 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: probably a month for it to calm down now. Sky continued, saying, 347 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: the only reason I'm documenting this is for other girls 348 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: undergoing surgery, because it's such a nice reassurance to see 349 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: the beginning to the end is such an overwhelming process, 350 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: but you've just got to wait it out and be 351 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: patient for the results. This makes me feel really uncomfortable. 352 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't necessarily have a problem with women 353 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: documenting their surgeries to show others, but I do feel 354 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: uncomfortable with the way medical tourism is being promoted. Yeah, 355 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: because in a lot of instances, major surgery is being 356 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: marketed as this frivolous holiday with the goals. It's a 357 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: chance to fix all the things that you hate about 358 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: yourself while you're sipping on cocktails at the pool. But 359 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: in reality, you are undergoing major surgery that, in most 360 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: instances is being performed in a country where there's very 361 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: different protocols and codes of ethics to what we have 362 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: in Australia. And when we see cases like Sharie being 363 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: spoken about, it shows just how dangerous it can be. 364 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: I was really surprised to find out that Sky not 365 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: only had the fox eye lift, but she also had 366 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: liposuction on her arm and inner thigh. So she wrote 367 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: that her doctors said there wasn't much fat on her 368 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: arms or legs, so they only took the slightest bit out. Now, 369 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: one follower asked what we're all thinking and said, why 370 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: did you get liposuction if you're really fit? And she 371 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: replied saying, because it doesn't matter how fit you are, 372 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: you're always gonna have areas of stubborn fat. And I'm 373 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: not actually that fit. Haha. Yes, I trained daily but 374 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: my diet isn't perfect. I'm too much of a sweet tooth. 375 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with sugar and food in general. I'm a 376 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: big eater. Loll. He wasn't going to even do it, 377 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: he said, hardly any fat, But I insisted he's great. 378 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: He's not going to do shit for the sake of it. 379 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: He's actually a great doctor. I love him. Doesn't that 380 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: sound like he did just exactly what she said he 381 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't do. Yeah, I know that's the thing. Like it's 382 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: interesting that she confirmed that he wasn't going to do 383 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: the liposuction, but that she convinced him. I mean, this 384 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't happen in Australia because there is a duty of care. 385 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: Then Sky went on to explain that she actually thinks 386 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: she has body. This mor this is what she said. 387 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: Oh but you're already beautiful, Like you didn't need that, 388 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 4: Like I'm telling you now, someone who wants to get 389 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 4: something done does not need to be told that because 390 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 4: you're never going to see what they're seeing. And I 391 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 4: know it's like a whole psychological, fucking shit show. And 392 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 4: I will be the first person to admit that, like, yeah, 393 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 4: maybe I do have body dysmorphia, and yeah, I have 394 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 4: daddy issues, and yeah, maybe I've not dated the best 395 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 4: guys who have always told me that I'm beautiful. But 396 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 4: I mean, besides that, it's something to do with me 397 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 4: and only me. 398 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: This is just getting so troubling and very awkward to 399 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: watch now. Sky confirmed that her partner Lockey, was supportive 400 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: over the surgery, but said that she was a fucking 401 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: idiot for getting it done, but he knew regardless of 402 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: what he said to Skuy, she was going to go 403 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 1: ahead with it anyway. 404 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 3: Well. 405 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: Aside from the body dysmorphia, Sky also said that she 406 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: believes she's addicted to plastic surgery. And I think think 407 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: that this is the core reason that she has traveled 408 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: to Turkey for this surgery. Because a lot of followers 409 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: are saying, well, she's a highly paid influencer, surely she 410 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: could afford surgery in Australia. But the reason that I 411 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: think she's going to the lengths of getting this done 412 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: in Turkey is because she knows that Australian surgeons would 413 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: be very unlikely to approve her for these procedures because 414 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: in Australia there's a code of conduct and that's been 415 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: developed by the Medical Border Australia, and within those guidelines 416 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: it says that a medical practitioner has to assess the 417 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: patient for any underlying psychological conditions such as body dysmorphia, 418 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: which may make them an unsuitable candidate. So she knows 419 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: if she goes into an Australian surgeon and asks for 420 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: this list of procedures that she really doesn't need to 421 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: get done, that they are going to say, sorry, we're 422 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: not going to approve that. Well, interestingly, it's Sky's doctor 423 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: that posted the first photo of her. So this was 424 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: on Monday and she was back in the studio where 425 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,239 Speaker 1: he showed a close up shot of the lift. And 426 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: I feel terrible, but I was very alarmed seeing this photo. 427 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 1: I know it's less than a week after surgery and 428 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: her face clearly hasn't healed properly, but it was quite shocking. 429 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 5: I've found the. 430 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: Photo really confronting and quite upsetting. And again I have 431 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: to remind myself that this is going to look very 432 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: different because she's fresh from surgery. It's very puffy at 433 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: the moment, but her eyebrows looked dramatically lifted and her 434 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: eyes looked very lifted as well. It just did not 435 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: look natural. In the caption, the doctor wrote, the job 436 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: is done now. If I was him, I would rather 437 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: show the results once things have settled down and she's 438 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: had time to heal. I don't understand why you would 439 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: show something when it's so raw. I'd be pissed off. 440 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: If I was Sky, I'd want to be the first 441 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: person sharing the photo and controlling what kind of photo 442 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: that was, particularly when the media are going to pick 443 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: up that photo and run with it and it's not 444 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: the actual end result that she's hoping to reveal. I've 445 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: noticed a lot of commentary since that photo drop, so 446 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: of people saying they're a bit uncomfortable because the foxy 447 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: trend almost looks like cultural appropriation. And this has been 448 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: an issue that has been raised for the last couple 449 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: of years related to this trend. Well, that's because the 450 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: whole point of the fox i trend is to lengthen 451 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: the eye and to make it look very sleek and 452 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: more slanted upwards, and that look does resemble natural Asian eyes. 453 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: And as soon as this fox i trend started to 454 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: become popular in twenty twenty, many people in the Asian 455 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: community labeled it as cultural appropriation. Yeah, a lot of 456 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: people in the Asian community have been saying that this 457 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 1: is just another example of Eurocentric mainstream culture cherry picking 458 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: ethnic features to look cool while treating and viewing the 459 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: ethnicity in question as inferior. I've been trying to put 460 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: my finger on why I feel uncomfortable about this trend 461 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: for quite some time, and I think that this has 462 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: perfectly articulated it, because it does really seem like Caucasian 463 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: women are picking out different cultural traits on other women 464 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: that they like and taking it for themselves. And as 465 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: a lot of these writers have said, it's very offensive 466 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: because these are all traits that they've either been bullied 467 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: or racially vilified for. And then we're seeing celebrities like 468 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: Bella had Did or Megan Fox walking the red carpet 469 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: using tape to appear almost Asian, and then's and that's 470 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: the crazy thing about it is that Caucasian women don't 471 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: naturally have this eye shape. So everyone's saying, Oh, it's 472 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: the Bella had Didn't. No, she's getting tape and taping 473 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: her eyes like that. It's actually not something that Caucasian 474 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: women had generally, So it just shows how messed up 475 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: this trend is. The whole irony is that as a 476 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: result of racial persecution, many Asian women are going and 477 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: getting double eyelid surgery, so it's the complete opposite. The 478 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: aim is to create an eyelid crease, which results in 479 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: a larger and more rounded eye. So basically, Asian women 480 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,239 Speaker 1: are trying to have a more Western looking eye. And 481 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: this is one of the most formed aesthetic procedures in Asia, 482 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: and it's the third most requested cosmetic operations amongst Asian Americans. 483 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued to see how Sky navigates this situation because 484 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: she's already made it clear she's going to continue to 485 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: share about this controversial surgery on her TikTok page. It 486 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: means she is going to continue to cop criticism for 487 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: this fox eye trend. And she is no stranger to controversy, 488 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to cultural appropriation, so she is 489 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: going to be one to watch. 490 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 5: I'm literally. 491 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro had the shock of her life when she 492 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: spotted a large snake slithering across her living room floor. 493 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm shaking. 494 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: I'm so glad. 495 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 5: I literally just put Posey in her room for a nap. 496 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 5: What that app Oh, I'm not equipped to this. We're 497 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 5: trying to hurt it outside. 498 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: Tammy was in the middle of cleaning out her fridge 499 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: in the kitchen when the snaw decided to pay her 500 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: a visit, and by the time she pulled out her 501 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: phone to capture the snake in action, it had taken 502 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: refuge under her white couch and it was so gross 503 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: because you could see its tail poking out the bottom. 504 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: Or we had a bit of a debate because I 505 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: think this is a tree snake, but you were convinced 506 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: it looked like a brown snake. Look, the reason I 507 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: thought it could be a brown snake is because she 508 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: lives at Broad Beach and that is a very well 509 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: known spot for having a large population of Eastern brown snakes. 510 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: So I can assure you if this was a brown snake, 511 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: she would have got a snake catcher to get out. 512 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: She wouldn't have just got a stick at it. 513 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: Amy. 514 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: In this video, she literally says, I don't know what 515 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: to do. What am I supposed to do with it? 516 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: Some people have pointed out on TikTok that Tammy appears 517 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: to have gone and run and got some thongs to 518 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: put on They're like, I love that she got her 519 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: protective thongs because isn't it funny how like when you're 520 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: in bare feet, there's something about even just having a 521 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: pair of thongs on where you feel a bit safer 522 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: when you feel vulnerable barefoot. Or she did decide to 523 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: go against getting a snake catcher, and she took the 524 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: matters into her own hands. So in this video on TikTok, 525 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: she showed herself alongside her sister Ava trying to herd 526 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: this snake out of the house, and in it, Ava 527 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: considered at one point trying to pick up the snake 528 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: by its tail and throwing it out the door. Is 529 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: this because there was a clip, it was a news 530 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: video which went viral of this CCTV footage in someone's 531 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: backyard where this snake grabbed onto someone's cat and she 532 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: picked up that it was a rabbit. Wasn't that No, 533 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: I think it was a cat. And she picked up 534 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: this snake and just like threw it basically to get 535 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: it away from her pet. Well possibly, I mean Tammy 536 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: screamed at Ava not to do it, and she was 537 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: worried that the snake was going to bite her. So 538 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: Tammy instead proceeded to get a stick like it wasn't 539 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: like a tree stick, I don't know. It was a 540 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: lot long bit of wood and she tried to direct 541 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: the snake with this stick out the door. It worked 542 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: quite well. At one point she got her daughter, Posey's 543 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: little toy car out and started too the hornet it 544 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: to try and herd it out the door. It's a 545 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: tough one because I really think she should have just 546 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: got a snake catcher involved, because it's stressful for the 547 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: snake to be in an environment where people are screaming 548 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: because they're very sensitive to noise. They are sensitive to noise. 549 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: But if you're trying to hurt a snake out, it's 550 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: quite good to put a few vibrations into the ground. 551 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: I'd never get a snake catcher. They'll remove it immediately. 552 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: Snake went missing in your house. I think they were 553 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: keeping an eye on it and considering it started shifting 554 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: towards the door, they thought, beauty, we'll get rid of it. 555 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: We'll close the door. The disturbing thing is a lot 556 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: of people in Tammy's TikTok comments section have been saying 557 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: it looks like a baby snake, which means there are siblings, 558 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: there's a mother, where are There's probably going to be 559 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: more around her house. All I could think was where 560 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 1: are her ragg dog cats? And in the video she 561 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: was actually holding on to one of them with a 562 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: snake on the ground and luckily she just put posey 563 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: to bed. So what a stressful situation. I bet a 564 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: lot of her US and UK followers were freaking out 565 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: seeing this or either thinking that this is something that 566 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: happens just all the time in Australia. 567 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 568 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: I tend to think it's the ladder where people just think, oh, 569 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: every day, normal day. Well, she does live on a riverfront, 570 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: she has this beautiful instagram a review of the city skyline, 571 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: and it's probably not that uncommon for people on the 572 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: Gold Coast to come across a snake. I know when 573 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: our mum lived in Queensland, her dad, our grandpa was 574 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: always having to get rid of snakes in their house. Well, 575 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 1: a lot of people were asking where was Matt and 576 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: some people were joking that he was hiding another room, 577 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: but he must have been out. Well, I think that 578 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: is all we have time for today. Thank you so 579 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: much for joining us for this episode. 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