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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's I've been enjoying the ABC exposed series

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Speaker 1: Luna Park the Ghost Train Fire.

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Speaker 2: And we spoke to the journal yesterday Caro.

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Speaker 1: Meldrum Harrow, which is a classic ABC name right there.

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Speaker 1: But this is an extraordinary piece of journalism.

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Speaker 2: So the story so far in the nineteen seventies, was it?

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Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy nine there was a fire in the Ghost

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Speaker 2: Train at Luna Park. It's so terrifying and horrific the

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Speaker 2: scene that unfolded there. How many young people died.

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Speaker 1: So there were six kids that were killed and a parent,

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Speaker 1: four mates and two boys and a dad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and a couple of siblings too in them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So the two boys and their dad, And it's

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Speaker 1: such a I was such a big Lunar Park fan,

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Speaker 1: and I was of the age of those boys that

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Speaker 1: were the four mates that were killed.

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Speaker 2: And as we said yesterday, and that's what happened with

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Speaker 2: these boys. It was for many people of our generation,

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Speaker 2: this was a rite of passage to go to Luna

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Speaker 2: Park without your parents. This was a place of happiness,

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Speaker 2: of thrills, of intrigue, and that terrible fire that everyone

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Speaker 2: was told at the time was electrical.

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Speaker 1: The head copper that came down. Then the detective he

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Speaker 1: came down there and said that it was an electrical

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Speaker 1: fire that was responsible for the Ghost Train. Nothing else

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Speaker 1: to see here. But then when you watch this Uncovered.

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Speaker 2: Series, and there's three in the series.

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Speaker 1: There's three in the series. There's another one next week.

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Speaker 1: But the fuse box, for example, where the so called

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Speaker 1: fire started, was completely intact. There was power running through

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Speaker 1: the Ghost Train ride when the fire broke out, and

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Speaker 1: so if the fusebox had caught on fire, it would

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Speaker 1: have tripped the fuse and the electricity would have been running.

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Speaker 1: The Ghost Train test number one. Yeah, the cars were

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Speaker 1: coming out and they were actually on fire, and.

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Speaker 2: Didn't witnesses also say they could smell caroscene.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is the other thing. All the witnesses. There

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Speaker 1: was a popular of two witnesses, two young kids, that

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Speaker 1: said that they saw a bunch of bikey looking dudes

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Speaker 1: on the ride ten minutes before the fire. Eyewitnesses went

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Speaker 1: on to say they heard these bikis talking about kerosene

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Speaker 1: matches and you shouldn't have done that. Ten minutes later,

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Speaker 1: the things engulfed in flames. The police dismissed all these witnesses.

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Speaker 1: So seven witnesses all said they saw these bikey guys

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Speaker 1: get on.

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Speaker 2: To the ride and also didn't they just dismantle the

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Speaker 2: entire crime scene or the entire scene instantly.

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Speaker 1: Within two days, the whole thing was completely gone. There

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Speaker 1: was just the track and nothing else.

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Speaker 2: So what are the implications of this. This is what

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Speaker 2: Caro said on our show yesterday that the implications are

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Speaker 2: is that the head investigator, Yeah, it's crooked.

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Speaker 1: Well that's allegedly Dug Knight.

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Speaker 2: He was the.

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Speaker 1: Detective that was doing this, and he was the one

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Speaker 1: that was pursuing the line that it was an electrical fire.

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Speaker 1: They even put in the newspaper police looking for witnesses

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Speaker 1: that can oberate the electrical fire story. They didn't even

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Speaker 1: have witnesses to the electrical fire thing. And people in

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Speaker 1: the coroner's court were saying, well, no, it wasn't electrical fire.

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Speaker 1: It must have been something else. But the whole you know,

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Speaker 1: you look at it now. The investigation that we go

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Speaker 1: into to get to the bottom of things.

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Speaker 2: But even in a domestic five, a domestic insurance claim

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Speaker 2: has more thorough investigation than this.

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Speaker 1: You've got what you've got. The take home from this

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Speaker 1: is you've got seven witnesses that say they saw these

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Speaker 1: biky guys, they smelt kerosene and there was talk about

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Speaker 1: kerosene and matches and you shouldn't have done that. There

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Speaker 1: were seven witnesses. The police didn't question, didn't pursue any

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Speaker 1: of They let all these leads just run. And why

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Speaker 1: why that's the big question. So when you look at it.

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Speaker 1: So the other thing to take home is were they

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Speaker 1: just incredibly lazy you thought, oh, it couldn't be by

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Speaker 1: the dealing with this Saturday night, let's just just say

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Speaker 1: it was electrical fire. Or were they incredibly corrupt? And

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Speaker 1: that whole area Ludipark could have been a great casino

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Speaker 1: or something like that. So bags of cash are paid,

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Speaker 1: bikes around the set eventies were pretty well known for

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Speaker 1: doing standover work and things like that.

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Speaker 2: So the system was so corrupt, police politicians as well.

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Speaker 2: Be interesting to see next week how high up the

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Speaker 2: chain this goes, because if that, if that investigator is

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Speaker 2: sent in to wrap it up, who gave those instructions?

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Speaker 1: Seven people were murdered, that's right.

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Speaker 2: And it's horrific. So years later we're learning this.

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Speaker 1: Now you look at year, it's forty two years later

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Speaker 1: and you say, oh, well, you know time heels or words.

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Speaker 2: No, no, it doesn't. And we're still and rightly so,

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Speaker 2: prosecuting Nazis, you know, from World War Two. Statute isn't over.

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Speaker 2: And what an insight, a horrific insight into how our

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Speaker 2: society was running.

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Speaker 1: But you know what those bikis, those guys that were there,

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Speaker 1: one of those would still be There were seven of well,

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Speaker 1: there was between seven and nine of them that were

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Speaker 1: seen on that ghost train ride that night, so they

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Speaker 1: would have been anywhere between at the time sixteen to

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Speaker 1: twenty three in age. So those guys now would be

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Speaker 1: in their sixty someone knows something, Someone out there's conscience

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Speaker 1: would be just eating into their brain. So it's a

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Speaker 1: it's an amazing story and it's such a Sydney story

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Speaker 1: as well, with Joins and Amanda