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Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome to the Project ballroom. So you ain't seen
Speaker 3: nothing yet. One hundred episodes. We somehow we've made it
Speaker 3: and I'm thrilled to be here with a very special episode.
Speaker 1: Is this.
Speaker 3: Live episode? We did our first one of the Melbourne
Speaker 3: International Comedy Festival with Judith Lucy The Sound of Music?
Speaker 3: Was anyone of that one? Do you be excellent? That
Speaker 3: was a great fun with the one with Shane Jacobson
Speaker 3: hasn't been released yet on the Sunshine Coast with Trained Spotting.
Speaker 3: That'll be really soon. And of course this one now
Speaker 3: so very excited. One hundred episodes. Haven't got a telegram
Speaker 3: from the King, got a text message from Prince Andrew
Speaker 3: didn't mention the podcast. Just one of them, Melibi to
Speaker 3: see where you're at. Who has seen Hunger Games? Who
Speaker 3: hasn't seen it? Obviously? The rest of you excellent. There's
Speaker 3: gonna be fucking spoilers, Okay, we can't not jog about
Speaker 3: the Hunger Games, about them The spoilers, so that's going
Speaker 3: to be happening. Very excited. We started this podcast a
Speaker 3: couple of years ago and had no idea where it
Speaker 3: was going to go, what it was going to be,
Speaker 3: and we're thrilled. We've had over a million downloads and
Speaker 3: this loving the whole experience. To be honest, it's it's
Speaker 3: been great and I'm glad to have Tom here today
Speaker 3: because he was our first guest on episode one when
Speaker 3: he watched The Lion King for the very first time,
Speaker 3: and the guest we've had over the years about Tony Martin,
Speaker 3: who people said you won't find a film that Tony
Speaker 3: Martin hasn't seen, and he hadn't seen Top Gun, so
Speaker 3: we did that. We had Todd Samson this week. Hadn't
Speaker 3: been The Shawshank Redemption. Yeah, I know, Leeck McGregor hadn't
Speaker 3: seen the Godfather movies. We've done those, wil Lee hadn't
Speaker 3: seen any of the Star Wars movies. We've done the
Speaker 3: original trilogy. So today we arrived with Tom and the
Speaker 3: Hunger Games. And before we bring a Tom out, I
Speaker 3: don't want to play a clip if you haven't seen
Speaker 3: or heard it. This was we had Darren Hayes, who's
Speaker 3: an amazing, amazing man. He's got a new album out
Speaker 3: called Homosexual a work of genius, it really is. And
Speaker 3: we had him on Ex Savage Guarden Massive Pop Star
Speaker 3: and he did Singing in the Rain. But before, as
Speaker 3: you know, we talked about three favorite films. By the way,
Speaker 3: Tom's three favorite films originally were Apocalypse Now two thousand
Speaker 3: and one, I Spaced, Odyssey, and Wake in Fright. So
Speaker 3: I'll be asking him for his next three favorite films
Speaker 3: before we get onto the Hunger Games. But we're talking
Speaker 3: to Darren Hayes, and I've told this story a few
Speaker 3: times in a podcast. It comes up where when I
Speaker 3: was eight years old, I went to saw Et in
Speaker 3: the city with my mum. And what happened was we
Speaker 3: were just there. She was talking to a friend of
Speaker 3: hers and I was just there and for some reason,
Speaker 3: I decided to spin around. And when I spun around,
Speaker 3: I was facing a different direction and then I just
Speaker 3: walked off in that direction and I got lost for
Speaker 3: literally ninety seconds. But it got me a little bit emotional,
Speaker 3: it did. And then I saw Et. If you haven't
Speaker 3: seen Et, it's an emotional film. I was a bit
Speaker 3: of a mess. So I've told that story a few
Speaker 3: times on the podcast. So when I told it with
Speaker 3: Darren Hayes, who nominated ET, he's one of his favorite films,
Speaker 3: I told I tried to tell the story again, but
Speaker 3: I took a shortcut.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play it now, and you can take a
Speaker 3: shortcut and telling the story. And then Darren reacts to
Speaker 3: me telling that story, but he hears a very different thing, okay,
Speaker 3: and he reacts I think fairly. Let's take a look
Speaker 3: at Darren Hayes and and me from two weeks ago
Speaker 3: from Singing in the Rain, another movie that also is
Speaker 3: about a boy who you know, I guess there's some
Speaker 3: kind of escape ord this somebody coming from another land.
Speaker 3: He's ET. I saw this in the cinema when I
Speaker 3: came out in Melbourne, and my memory, my first memory
Speaker 3: of it is that I lost my mum before the movie,
Speaker 3: so I was already a little bit emotionally, you know,
Speaker 3: on edge. And then just I think it was the
Speaker 3: first movie. Perhaps I remember just balling in. Well I'm sorry, peene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's heavy, that's beautiful.
Speaker 3: No, that's there. No, I mean, how old were you
Speaker 3: when you saw the film.
Speaker 5: I was I was eight. I was eight.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I want to be very clear. So I want
Speaker 3: to be very clear on this guy. I it might
Speaker 3: be misunderstanding when I said I lost my mom, I
Speaker 3: physically on that day lost my mom. I could not
Speaker 3: find her. She was there.
Speaker 1: Piece of.
Speaker 3: Actually that was not a setup, piece of shit. I
Speaker 3: spun this is what happened. This is what happened. I
Speaker 3: spun around.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 3: I thought, you mean sarcastic because you had shared so
Speaker 3: much and misplaced my mom for like three minutes, and
Speaker 3: and you were like, that's a beautiful story, pet, And
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, it does seem a bit n I
Speaker 3: was just like, oh wow, I just here, I am
Speaker 3: talking about my insignificant life and heat he lost his
Speaker 3: mother at eight.
Speaker 5: You literally just lost her any more.
Speaker 3: Wow, it was three minutes. I'll never get back.
Speaker 5: But this is incredible. This is incredible.
Speaker 6: I love that.
Speaker 5: This may be my podcast.
Speaker 3: This may be my favorite moment of the podcast ever.
Speaker 3: I think incredible. There we go, Darren Hayes, I should
Speaker 3: the point of that. Before that, he tells the most
Speaker 3: amazing story. If you haven't heard, please listen to the episode.
Speaker 3: He tells the most amazing story about his dad and
Speaker 3: his dad was an alcoholic and how he related to
Speaker 3: him and through Star Wars, and it was so for
Speaker 3: me to go through that. After he told that story
Speaker 3: was even more painful. So yeah, incredible. All right, ladies
Speaker 3: and gentlemen, we're going to bring out our special guest,
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Speaker 3: we go now, tom My, both my parents are alive.
Speaker 3: I just want you to know, Okay, from the from
Speaker 3: the top, how are you, mate?
Speaker 5: I'm great. I'm really looking forward to this.
Speaker 1: You are.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I'm one of those ones, a bit like Tony Martin.
Speaker 7: I've seen pretty much every film that's ever existed, so
Speaker 7: it's tricky for me to think of ones I haven't seen.
Speaker 3: You have been very hard to pin down. There are
Speaker 3: a few people out there, A lot of people are like,
Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything, so just you know, whatever, Lucky
Speaker 3: Hume is one we haven't been able to pin down.
Speaker 3: I suggested legally Blonde, but lucky human gains. I'm not
Speaker 3: watching back Illeately Blond, but you you have been tricky.
Speaker 3: So we did find a hunger games and we should
Speaker 3: just get into it. As the official start to the podcast,
Speaker 3: my name is Peter hallia holcome to you Ain't seen
Speaker 3: nothing yet the Movie Podcast, where arch out to a
Speaker 3: movie lover, a better, classic or beloved movie. They haven't
Speaker 3: quite got around a scene until now. And today's guests
Speaker 3: my great mate, the god like You, Tom Lisa.
Speaker 5: Today.
Speaker 3: Hello, now you kick us off of you. I want
Speaker 3: to hear your next three favorite films. So you had
Speaker 3: two thousand and one Apocalypse Now and Wake in Fright
Speaker 3: Tom glisas, what are your next three favorite films?
Speaker 7: My next three favorite films? I was trying to think
Speaker 7: of films that when I put them on, I.
Speaker 5: Have to watch the whole thing. And also I'll often
Speaker 5: put them on late at night.
Speaker 7: When I've gotten back from a big night out. I'll
Speaker 7: give this a look. The Godfather, Big commitment. Now you
Speaker 7: start watching that at midnight. The Light Horseman an Australian
Speaker 7: film from the eighties and Dunkirk dunk Kirk. Yeah, but
Speaker 7: up until now you haven't seen, of course, the Hunger Games.
Speaker 8: I volunteered this tribute.
Speaker 9: I believe we have a volunteer. I need to get
Speaker 9: out of here. You need to get out of.
Speaker 3: So sorry, all right. Before Squid Game, there was another
Speaker 3: barbaric game that offered a loan, survive and a chance
Speaker 3: to well survive. In the future Dystopian America, twelve districts
Speaker 3: take part in the blood sport known as the Hunger Games.
Speaker 3: Two children are chosen from the Two children are chosen
Speaker 3: in a bizarro Melbourne Cup sweep to represent their district.
Speaker 3: When young Primrose Everdeen is plucked out, her older sister
Speaker 3: and primary caretaker, Catnus Everdeen, a star making term by
Speaker 3: Jennifer Lawrence, volunteers when Peter Malark Josh Hutcheson is chosen
Speaker 3: as the male representative, It starts a four movie franchise
Speaker 3: that shoots Jay Law into the stratosphere. Based on the
Speaker 3: mega successful books by Suzanne Collins, the Hunger Games examines
Speaker 3: our love of violence as a sport as entertainment, the
Speaker 3: class system, wealth and poverty. Its Quid Game meets the
Speaker 3: Truman Show made for a PG thirteen audience, directed by
Speaker 3: Gary Ross, who had previously helmed Pleasantville and Seabiscuit. He
Speaker 3: has a stellar caster work with who actually looked like
Speaker 3: they're having a lot of fun, in particular Stanley Tucci,
Speaker 3: Elizabeth Banks, and Woody Harrelson. Oh there is also a
Speaker 3: Hamsworth swoon. Tom Gleason, Have you ever killed anyone for
Speaker 3: sport on live television?
Speaker 5: Well, metaphorically your heaps.
Speaker 7: I haven't actually killed anyone, yeah, but I have made
Speaker 7: people regret that they came on my show.
Speaker 5: I do that pretty much every week.
Speaker 7: Yes, I think there is a moment every week when
Speaker 7: you watch hard Quiz when someone just realizes that maybe
Speaker 7: going on the show with a mistake.
Speaker 3: Was there anyone who in hard Chat? Who do you
Speaker 3: think you metaphorically killed?
Speaker 8: There?
Speaker 5: Was One of my favorite hard chats I did was
Speaker 5: an interview with white Roy.
Speaker 7: You may not remember him. You've got to think back
Speaker 7: to the Abbit era the government. White Roy was the
Speaker 7: youngest ever member to join the House of Representatives. He
Speaker 7: was voted in when I think he was twenty one yep.
Speaker 7: And we were halfway through the hard chat and he
Speaker 7: was looking at me and he was all happy, and
Speaker 7: he was tapping his hands on the chair like he
Speaker 7: was all relaxed, and he said, this is actually quite fun.
Speaker 5: You just had a little movie that this fun, and
Speaker 5: so I thought, all right, I'm going to lean into this.
Speaker 7: So I said, the night when you got together with
Speaker 7: Turnbull and decided to stab Abbot in.
Speaker 5: The back, that sounded I reckon, that was fun too.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And the blood just drained from his face as
Speaker 7: he realized there was no answer he could give.
Speaker 5: That was going to work.
Speaker 3: The tom Glas and Hunger Games. Let them begin. So
Speaker 3: what did you know of the Hunger Games? Why did
Speaker 3: we end up choosing this one?
Speaker 7: Well, so I was quite methodical. I went through all
Speaker 7: the biggest box office films of all time and just
Speaker 7: went down the list until I found one I hadn't seen,
Speaker 7: and Hunger Games was the first, right, So right at
Speaker 7: the top is Avatar or something, and you just go
Speaker 7: down and then I thought, I haven't seen that. It's
Speaker 7: a popular film, so I chose that. But it's been
Speaker 7: a tricky life because people refer to it all the
Speaker 7: time and I don't know what they meant. Right, it
Speaker 7: was our hard quiz. It's like the Hunger Games, but
Speaker 7: for game shows. I'm like, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 3: So what okay, but what did you know? What did
Speaker 3: you think the Hunger Games were?
Speaker 7: I thought, I knew it was a fight to the death,
Speaker 7: but I thought it was more like like Gloody. I
Speaker 7: thought it was gladiatorial, like it was going to be
Speaker 7: in a colosseum or something. So I was a bit
Speaker 7: disappointed when it was just in a National park. You know,
Speaker 7: they were running around them. I want them to I want, like,
Speaker 7: you know, Russell crowd to jump out of a tree
Speaker 7: or something and.
Speaker 5: For there to be a crowd.
Speaker 3: All right. We don't find out whether you liked it
Speaker 3: or not very soon. I want to talk about your
Speaker 3: three next favorite films. So you had The Waking Right
Speaker 3: two thousand and one in the pockets. Now the first
Speaker 3: time you came back around, this time you had what
Speaker 3: were they?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was The Godfather?
Speaker 3: Godfather? Okay, let's about the Godfather, my favorite film of
Speaker 3: all time. I always say Godfather and Godfather Part two.
Speaker 3: I think Godfather Part two by a smidge if I
Speaker 3: was the rank them. But so you're saying the Godfather
Speaker 3: as the original original film, Yes, Yep.
Speaker 7: I prefer it to Godfather Part two. Yeah, why is
Speaker 7: that slightly shorter? It's ever so slightly shorter. I got
Speaker 7: back into it because there was that TV show called
Speaker 7: The Offer, Yeah, on Paramount Plus, and it's all about
Speaker 7: the making of the Godfather, and I watched that and
Speaker 7: I'm like, that's a really good film.
Speaker 5: I should watch it again.
Speaker 3: How long How long had it passed.
Speaker 7: Since I'd watched it? Maybe fifteen years? Yeah, And every
Speaker 7: single scene in that is perfect. Yeah, there's not every
Speaker 7: every moment you go, oh, this is the scene where
Speaker 7: that happens, and then another scene happens like.
Speaker 5: This is that one? Yeah, I can't believe this is
Speaker 5: the one where that And it's just it never lets up.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The assassination scene is when he goes to the
Speaker 3: cistern in the toilet they get the gun.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And but what I love about that when when he
Speaker 3: arrives And I had the opportunity to chapter Miles Teller,
Speaker 3: who was the star of The Offer, and we spoke
Speaker 3: about this. What's great about watching that movie is they
Speaker 3: take their time, Like he goes there, they sit down
Speaker 3: and the waiter comes over and he paus everybody a
Speaker 3: whine and he just allows that to happen. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: now it wouldn't happen. You would cut. You'd be like,
Speaker 3: I'll just leave the bottle here and we'll shake over that.
Speaker 5: Cut cut bottles half empty? Yeah, bedtime?
Speaker 3: So and did you love Where do you rate this
Speaker 3: as far as in the world of Pachino is it?
Speaker 3: Is it your favorite Patrina performance?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I like it because I think it was his first
Speaker 7: really big one. He don't need on one other film.
Speaker 7: Hadn't he think he doesn't panic in Needle Park or something?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had the fight from I think Robert Redford
Speaker 3: was up for the role.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was the Italian I dies here whatever
Speaker 5: cultural appropriation. Mate, It was back in the olden days
Speaker 5: when no one cared about racism.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, those are the days. So and you love
Speaker 3: the brand, Oh, let you love the whole thing? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I love the whole thing.
Speaker 7: So it's just such an exciting film, and it's just
Speaker 7: it's just Yeah, it takes you from this guy who
Speaker 7: is not going to be part of the family business,
Speaker 7: and he slowly becomes more and more evil, and that
Speaker 7: that plot line of that film has been copied many, many,
Speaker 7: many times.
Speaker 3: The reason I have too just ahead of it is
Speaker 3: I love I love the Freido stuff into like I
Speaker 3: love that black sheep of a family who can't quite
Speaker 3: doesn't quite fit in. Yeah, and it's heart I mean
Speaker 3: it's just heartbreaking.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: But Fredo is such a dead shit. I would have
Speaker 7: shot him in the beginning of the first film. Should
Speaker 7: have just gone pop, got rid of him. You're a
Speaker 7: fucking idiot, Freido. Let's move on and let's get back
Speaker 7: into crime. Clap your hands, I go, I'm going to
Speaker 7: see who Godfather one or two. Club your hands if
Speaker 7: you prefer Godfather one.
Speaker 3: And god By the Part two.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're just trying to sound smart, no, you know,
Speaker 7: because people it just it's one of those smart things
Speaker 7: people say. Oh, apparently all sequels and no good old
Speaker 7: But unlike Godfather Part it is the only sequel that
Speaker 7: has one of the best picture Oscar fucking shut up whatever.
Speaker 3: And there's of course anyone for Godfather Part three.
Speaker 5: Okay, there we go.
Speaker 3: Not as bad as people think of this. And also
Speaker 3: you had in your The next film was The Light Horseman.
Speaker 3: The Light horse Now I can't remember seeing The Light Horseman,
Speaker 3: but I know it was directed by Simon Winter who
Speaker 3: did all the horse movies in the eighties. In the
Speaker 3: later lap and went over to America. They'd Lon Some
Speaker 3: Dove had.
Speaker 5: Peter Phelps in it.
Speaker 7: It's about the siege at Bash Bearsheba by the light horse,
Speaker 7: the only of the time that yeah, the light horse
Speaker 7: charged machine gun positions. So it's the climate to the
Speaker 7: film is magic and it's it's a very underrated film.
Speaker 7: It's didn't do particularly well at the box office, I
Speaker 7: don't think, but it's very exciting and it's it ticks
Speaker 7: all the cliches. It ticks all the boxes for a
Speaker 7: war film, so it adheres to all the cliches. You
Speaker 7: know this it's the person who reveals something about their family.
Speaker 7: Oh they're going to die, they do, and all that stuff.
Speaker 7: It's spoilers alert during the war people die, but for
Speaker 7: the but the staging of the last part is just magic.
Speaker 5: Like it's the stampede of the horses mark you know,
Speaker 5: in the full charge towards the trenches is extraordinary.
Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed. I haven't seen it. Cut me hands. If
Speaker 3: you've seen it, it's not it's not that popular. Film
Speaker 3: got the hands. If you liked it, there you go,
Speaker 3: one people do in clap, one person in clap. I
Speaker 3: just I detected. And of course your Thirdvorite film was
Speaker 3: dun Kirk.
Speaker 5: Dun Kirk Kirk.
Speaker 7: Right from the very beginning of that film, it's just
Speaker 7: sheer panic and it doesn't stop till the end. And
Speaker 7: also for Christopher Nolan, I think it's an hour and
Speaker 7: a half, a very disciplined effort from him. Yeah, I
Speaker 7: think it's the shortest film he's made. I think it's
Speaker 7: about an hour and a half on the button or
Speaker 7: just a bit over, and just right from the beginning,
Speaker 7: you're panicked right until the end.
Speaker 5: Very exciting for.
Speaker 3: Did the linear the non linear? Did that screen around on.
Speaker 5: That non smart? So I just got it straight away.
Speaker 3: I watch it a couple of times.
Speaker 5: Yeah, now I understood it straight away.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't have to dump things down like you do
Speaker 5: on the project.
Speaker 3: There is a job vacancy going at the moment. If
Speaker 3: anybody yeah, oh yeah, we should make an announcement. Actually,
Speaker 3: I'm the new carry Big More. Not many people and
Speaker 3: carry Big More.
Speaker 5: How many people know that we are.
Speaker 3: Having a Hunger Games at Channel ten four carries job.
Speaker 3: Actually got my money's one A Bishop to be honest. Oh, well,
Speaker 3: your favorite story the Dunkirk in the film.
Speaker 7: Ah oh, there's so the the the older man in
Speaker 7: his boat with the young boy. Yeah, that's like it's
Speaker 7: a beautiful story.
Speaker 5: And also just just that they could be so brave.
Speaker 3: That's Mark Ryland.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, and.
Speaker 7: It's like it's it's very exciting. There's a few moments
Speaker 7: in that that are a bit cheesy. But also Tom Hardy,
Speaker 7: how you never see his face? I think that's great.
Speaker 7: How all you see are his eyes?
Speaker 3: Well, you never see his face Tom Hardy in any film.
Speaker 5: No, he doesn't have a face.
Speaker 3: He doesn't never face.
Speaker 7: But also the other thing I like is with the
Speaker 7: planes in Dunkirk. It makes you feel that shooting other
Speaker 7: planes while flying a plane is really difficult. You know,
Speaker 7: often in dog fights and stuff, it's always like they
Speaker 7: just shoot things and they explode and go well done,
Speaker 7: like Top Gun for example. But in this film that
Speaker 7: they just seem to only be missing constantly, and you
Speaker 7: can hear the creaking of the plane and then you
Speaker 7: can feel like you're in the cockpit and then it
Speaker 7: wouldn't be much fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's get onto it. I'm fascinated I
Speaker 3: ran a little pole on Twitter this afternoon. Would Tom
Speaker 3: Gleason loved The Hunger Games? Yes? Or no? Eighty six
Speaker 3: percent people said that you would torch this film. Oh,
Speaker 3: Tom Gleason hit a pressure in twenty twelve, directed by
Speaker 3: Gary Ross, starring Jennifer Lawrence and Stanley Tucci and Leam Hemsworth.
Speaker 7: And I couldn't believe they were all in it. I
Speaker 7: only knew Jennifer Lawrence was in it. Yeah, and all
Speaker 7: these other people are in it too. I thought this
Speaker 7: film is going to be huge once everyone finds.
Speaker 3: Out that all these people are in it, once we
Speaker 3: spread the word through his podcast, it's really going to
Speaker 3: have some traction. Did you enjoy The Hunger Games?
Speaker 5: Yes? I did?
Speaker 9: You did?
Speaker 5: I did enjoy it. I found it far fetched at times,
Speaker 5: but I just went with it.
Speaker 3: Like The Hunger Games, I liked it.
Speaker 5: Thumbs up, thumbs up.
Speaker 3: Okay. I was curious whether you would like it or not.
Speaker 3: As I've watched it again. I was it twice this week.
Speaker 3: For the kind of thought, you will like it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well it's exciting. It's a nice premise.
Speaker 7: I liked some of the lateral thinking in it, like
Speaker 7: I liked when Woody Harrelson's character, who was like their mentor,
Speaker 7: gave them advice to not run towards the weapons at
Speaker 7: the beginning. So they're all there when they when it's
Speaker 7: first and there's a big pilot weapons, they look very tempting.
Speaker 7: He's saying, don't run towards rep weapons, run away and hide,
Speaker 7: and I thought that's good.
Speaker 5: That's lateral thinking, good advice. I liked it.
Speaker 7: And also I was thinking, that's how I would play
Speaker 7: it as well, even without him saying that. If I
Speaker 7: was in the Hunger Games, I would when they when
Speaker 7: they say go, I just run into the National Park
Speaker 7: or whatever state forests they are in, and I'd climb
Speaker 7: a tree like she did, but I'd be more disciplined
Speaker 7: than her. I'd just stay there until everyone was dead,
Speaker 7: and then I'd come out as the winner.
Speaker 3: That's your strategy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'd wait.
Speaker 7: Until one other there'd be some arrogant pre walking around
Speaker 7: like they had won because they'd forgot that I was
Speaker 7: in the tree, did you you? Then I just kill
Speaker 7: them and then I'd done. And that way I'd only
Speaker 7: have to commit murder once, so be easy to live with.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't want to be a serial killer and winner.
Speaker 7: That would be like the guilt versus reward of winning.
Speaker 5: You know, it's hard to deal with, well.
Speaker 3: How many people this cat and is actually killing? The
Speaker 3: end doesn't work that out, does she.
Speaker 7: She's the beneficiary of a few accents, and I think
Speaker 7: that's deliberate to make her likable.
Speaker 3: I think that's that's one of the weird things about
Speaker 3: the film. They do very much, not weird, but they
Speaker 3: protect her. Yeah, virtue.
Speaker 7: Well, one thing I did notice very early on, which
Speaker 7: I thought was dodgy, was there was a group. There
Speaker 7: was a group acting as a group.
Speaker 3: Yes, what was that about?
Speaker 5: And like that, like that would last?
Speaker 7: Like I've read Lord of the Flies. Yeah, I've read
Speaker 7: the story of the Batavia. You leave a group together
Speaker 7: and they just kill each other without.
Speaker 5: It being a game.
Speaker 7: You don't need a game. You leave a group together
Speaker 7: on an island for long enough they all kill each other. Yeah,
Speaker 7: which is what they do because we're horrible as a race.
Speaker 3: It was a weird thing to see this. Everyone you
Speaker 3: know the rules.
Speaker 5: Now, I've seen that.
Speaker 7: There was a line of five of them walking along
Speaker 7: and I was just waiting for one of them to
Speaker 7: knock another one on the head in that queue, like,
Speaker 7: just oh, so long as I'm here, Like, if you're
Speaker 7: last in line and you haven't killed someone, you're a
Speaker 7: fucking idiot, Like you're last and no one can see like.
Speaker 5: You just you just killed the person in front of you,
Speaker 5: just to get it over and done with.
Speaker 3: Well, And why was Peter Malark in that group? Like
Speaker 3: you can understand if though the two people from the
Speaker 3: same district and maybe the neighboring district, but Peter Malark
Speaker 3: there didn't seem to me.
Speaker 5: They didn't really get explained. I thought he was like
Speaker 5: a turncoat. Yeah, but then he didn't. I was waiting
Speaker 5: for a twist. It didn't turn up.
Speaker 3: Did you find Maybe it's what we were projecting because
Speaker 3: Jennifer Lawrence, we know even subconsciously we were watching it
Speaker 3: for the first time that the stories about her, like
Speaker 3: there's more commotion and she's causing a lot of the commotion.
Speaker 3: Admittedly when when Primrose is nominated and there's a bit
Speaker 3: more kerfuffle, but when Peter's nominated, I felt nobody gave
Speaker 3: a fuck.
Speaker 7: No thought they're like there he goes as fair enough. Yeah,
Speaker 7: he's had this coming a long time. That guy offf
Speaker 7: you go, oh happy he left?
Speaker 5: Weren't they I think they were?
Speaker 3: Did you like Did you like Peter Malark?
Speaker 5: I did like him? Is he famous? No, I've never
Speaker 5: seen him before.
Speaker 3: No, I can't think of things that he's done sceince
Speaker 3: I'm sure he's working.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I didn't. I thought I've never laid eyes
Speaker 5: on this boat before. I'm alife. But yeah, I liked him.
Speaker 5: I liked him when he was pretending to be a rock.
Speaker 5: That was good.
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, let's get to that. I mean we're
Speaker 3: jumping here, We're gonna this is what we do on
Speaker 3: the podcast. We end up jumping back and forth.
Speaker 5: But let's yeah, and Pete can't follow it because it's
Speaker 5: like not in chronologus. If I can follow it.
Speaker 3: It's like a it's a Dunkirk episode. Let's have it.
Speaker 3: Let's this is I find a ridiculous. So there's an
Speaker 3: earlier scene where it's just it's quite quick, where he goes, oh,
Speaker 3: by the way, look I can do this, and I
Speaker 3: can pay my hand and put it next to a
Speaker 3: tree and it disappears. Yea.
Speaker 7: And then I must admit when he did that, I
Speaker 7: thought that's going to be important. Later, of course, because
Speaker 7: I tapped my wife. I said, that's going to be
Speaker 7: important later and she said, I know.
Speaker 3: So let's look at Peter malc put of these masterful
Speaker 3: painting skills into action.
Speaker 4: Attention, tributes, Attention. The regulations requiring a single victor have
Speaker 4: been suspended. From now on, two victors may be crowned
Speaker 4: if both originate from the same district. This will be
Speaker 4: the only announcement.
Speaker 9: Oh my god, Peter, Peter, Okay, now zo.
Speaker 3: We know makeup artists. Yep, that's fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 5: That would have taken ages.
Speaker 3: You would need mirrors, he would need it like a
Speaker 3: little kite. The fact that he's done that lying down,
Speaker 3: and not only he's obviously got some clay or something
Speaker 3: to connect him to the rock.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what the fuck was going on?
Speaker 7: I'm starting to think it was done by the makeup
Speaker 7: artist working on the film, and it wasn't done by
Speaker 7: him at all.
Speaker 3: You think didn't do that at all?
Speaker 5: I don't think you did.
Speaker 7: But also, like you could just hide under a bush,
Speaker 7: you don't need to paint your face. No, he's hide
Speaker 7: under a bush.
Speaker 5: It's fine. A climbing a tree. We've already established that's
Speaker 5: a really good tactic.
Speaker 3: Cannas is running around, She's just running around. He's just lying.
Speaker 3: How long was he lying there for?
Speaker 7: I don't know, but like, if you went to that
Speaker 7: much bother to paint your face, you'd want to be
Speaker 7: there for a long time, even wanted.
Speaker 3: To move, could find another rock that fits exactly. That
Speaker 3: is anybody who's read the book, by the way, hands,
Speaker 3: if you read the book, yep, is that is that
Speaker 3: in the book. It is in the book. Because for
Speaker 3: me it felt like a movie. Yeah, a movie construct Yeah.
Speaker 5: I thought they'd added it just to the movie, just
Speaker 5: to jazz it up.
Speaker 3: Was there anything that shocked you?
Speaker 5: What were you?
Speaker 3: Were you surprised by either the grimness or the you know,
Speaker 3: the holocaust vibes early on?
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 7: I've seen squid Game already, so it's like going backwards
Speaker 7: and watching that. That seemed like playground to me. After
Speaker 7: you watch squid Game, you're like, you watch that, You're like, oh,
Speaker 7: this is piece of you should be on ABC kids.
Speaker 7: I actually wanted to watch it with my kids, but
Speaker 7: they're younger and my wife didn't want them to. But
Speaker 7: I'm like, oh, you know, they'll be right, You're going
Speaker 7: to learn this stuff eventually.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I tell you I really like in the film
Speaker 3: is Stanley Tucci. I think he's it looks like he's
Speaker 3: having the most fun out of anyone I think in
Speaker 3: the film. And he plays Caesar Flickerman, and it's like
Speaker 3: this weird the TV show. It's like a weird combination
Speaker 3: of Big Brother meets AFL three sixty and it's he's
Speaker 3: having so much fun. Let's have a look at the
Speaker 3: clip of him interviewing Peter Malark.
Speaker 5: I have a question for this season.
Speaker 6: Do I ask Mike Roses to your.
Speaker 3: Wh who I smell like?
Speaker 5: You definitely smell better than I did.
Speaker 3: Well, I've lived here longer.
Speaker 5: Tell me so, Peter.
Speaker 3: Tell me, is there a special girl back home?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: No, not really, No, I don't believe.
Speaker 3: It for a second. Look at that face, handsome man
Speaker 3: like you.
Speaker 6: Peter tell me, well, there are There is this one
Speaker 6: girl that I've had a crush on forever, but I
Speaker 6: don't think she actually recognized me until the reaping.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what, Peter.
Speaker 5: You go out there and you win this thing, and
Speaker 5: when you get home.
Speaker 10: She'll have to go out with you, right, fobbs, I
Speaker 10: don't think winning is going to help me at all?
Speaker 3: And why not.
Speaker 1: Because she came here with me.
Speaker 3: Well, well, and let's talk about Stanley Tucci. Yes, did
Speaker 3: you enjoy as much as I did?
Speaker 5: I thought he was great. I want him to host
Speaker 5: shows here in Australia. Yeah, just get him out. Yeah,
Speaker 5: like he should host Big Brother, would be great. They
Speaker 5: were getting to read the news.
Speaker 3: There are total Gretel Colleen vibes going on, I think
Speaker 3: with this.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. And did you did you think when Peter Malark
Speaker 3: tells his story did you think it was strategy or
Speaker 3: is he telling the truth?
Speaker 7: I felt and I think it was deliberately ambiguous. I
Speaker 7: think it was both. I think it was supposed to
Speaker 7: you were supposed to he was. He was passing it
Speaker 7: off as strategy, but he also felt it m hmm.
Speaker 7: But he was saying that it was, but it was
Speaker 7: being said to be strategy because he also wasn't wanting
Speaker 7: to put his heart out there.
Speaker 5: Is that the way it's supposed to be interpreted. That's
Speaker 5: why I took it. I think I had a few ones.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I believe them originally, and then when I
Speaker 3: watched it the second time this recent, I saw it
Speaker 3: when it came out, I thought maybe it was more strategy,
Speaker 3: that maybe he's smarter than me giving credit for because the.
Speaker 5: Woody Harrison's character says that it was a good strategy. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and that's what makes you think that. But I don't
Speaker 5: think that he actually said it was a strategy.
Speaker 3: I think you may be right to this both, Yeah,
Speaker 3: because he equally likes her. Who thinks it's purely strategy
Speaker 3: to cut your hands? You guys can sharing Uber on
Speaker 3: the way home and discussed that who thinks he was
Speaker 3: from the heart?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And who thinks it was a bit of both, A
Speaker 3: bit from the heart, a bit of both going on?
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little bit of both, I think. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I also liked that they kept flashing back to he
Speaker 7: threw a bun out the window and didn't give it
Speaker 7: to a direct I didn't quite get that. So my
Speaker 7: what I worked out was he felt bad because he
Speaker 7: threw out a bun that he didn't want to eat,
Speaker 7: and she was so desperate she ate it, and he
Speaker 7: regretted not giving it to her in her hand.
Speaker 5: He threw it on the ground and treated her poorly.
Speaker 5: Is that what happened? Because it kept going back to
Speaker 5: it over again. It's like, here's the fucking bun again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I like, I agree that it was.
Speaker 5: It was like it was.
Speaker 3: It was a nice gesture. He would have given her
Speaker 3: a dry bun, Yeah, maybe wrapped up with one of
Speaker 3: those little little bits of paper that gets her in
Speaker 3: the middle. Yeah, diggy taped with a little love heart,
Speaker 3: maybe a little message. But he just fucking threw it
Speaker 3: into the rain, into the mud.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's not nice.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so maybe he didn't love her. Maybe we're cracking
Speaker 7: it open, guys, I don't know, what do you think? Like,
Speaker 7: I love my wife and I've never thrown a bun
Speaker 7: on the ground and said eat that. I mean, I've
Speaker 7: wanted to, but I haven't. Here's your bun, enjoy.
Speaker 5: I love you. It's on the ground, but I love you.
Speaker 3: Did you? What do you think of Hamich Abernathy played
Speaker 3: by Woody Harrelson, who's also having a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: What do you think of his advice? First of all,
Speaker 3: what do you think of his his attitude? He's surely
Speaker 3: drunken attitude early on.
Speaker 7: I thought it was really good performance because my interpretation
Speaker 7: was that he was suffering from PTSD from being a
Speaker 7: previous winner. So he had played the game, and he
Speaker 7: had killed a lot of people, and he was like
Speaker 7: a veteran from a war, so he was Yeah, he
Speaker 7: was wanting the best for his contestants or whatever they
Speaker 7: call tributes.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, he has probably done it
Speaker 7: many times before and they've walked out and just been
Speaker 7: killed straight away.
Speaker 5: So I think he was Yeah, he was battle damaged.
Speaker 5: That's why I read it.
Speaker 3: So the idea is that he's from District twelve two.
Speaker 7: I assume, I think so, yeah, and I think I mean,
Speaker 7: I might be wrong, but there was a suggestion that
Speaker 7: he I think he had played somehow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he played. He won, and he's a
Speaker 3: previous winner. Yeah that's right, isn't that? As I read
Speaker 3: the book or those understanding, do you know how long
Speaker 3: ago he won it? Twenty five years? Right there we go.
Speaker 3: That's the right answer too. By the way, Yeah, you
Speaker 3: have the Letny Kravitz we meet. Yeah that was a surprise. Yeah,
Speaker 3: playing center.
Speaker 7: I was wondering why he did that, Like he's a
Speaker 7: rock star and it's a pretty small role, like he's
Speaker 7: only in about four scenes. I think, why is he
Speaker 7: doing that? And I was thinking maybe This was around
Speaker 7: the time that he performed on the Today Show and
Speaker 7: his pants ripped open, his cock came out.
Speaker 5: Do you remember that? It was about ten years ago.
Speaker 5: He was playing.
Speaker 3: Are you saying that Gravi's penis came out on the
Speaker 3: Today Show? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, not like the American one in New.
Speaker 3: York Carlin Lesia. No, No, you can look it upslcause
Speaker 3: it would have told me that.
Speaker 7: No, it was in front of whoever the I can't
Speaker 7: I don't know who the name. So he was, Yeah,
Speaker 7: he was playing. You can look up the footage. It's
Speaker 7: really funny.
Speaker 5: He's like, let's go to an he's playing guitar.
Speaker 7: He is doing a solo and he's scoat's down really low,
Speaker 7: and it's a real close up on the camera and
Speaker 7: his legs are apart and his pants just rip in
Speaker 7: the middle and he doesn't have underpants on and you
Speaker 7: just see his massive cock. It's the best thing ever.
Speaker 7: And I thought maybe it was around that time and
Speaker 7: he thought, I've got to try to make people stop
Speaker 7: thinking about that, So I'll take a small part in
Speaker 7: the Hunger Games to make I'll shave off madreadlocks and
Speaker 7: everyone will forget the cock on the Today show, I'll.
Speaker 3: Be waking up to today. I like Lenny Kravitz, though
Speaker 3: in this I'm not sure why he took the job,
Speaker 3: but I thought he was good. It was a pr
Speaker 3: move that PR movie got the way little of the
Speaker 3: nice eye liner that that I was.
Speaker 5: On edge of it.
Speaker 7: It's gonna I'm going to see again and he's been
Speaker 7: such a nice mentor, he's been lovely and helping.
Speaker 5: Out on my pants going to split again and she
Speaker 5: is going to be disappointed, Like, come on, I thought
Speaker 5: I could trust you.
Speaker 3: He of course designs he you know, he designs the
Speaker 3: dress and they make a big entrance. And let's have
Speaker 3: a look at the entrance of Peter Malark and Catinus
Speaker 3: Epatheen in the big arena.
Speaker 11: When you came out of that chariot, I have to say,
Speaker 11: my heart stopped.
Speaker 5: Did any new experiences as well? My heart stopped?
Speaker 1: Solid line.
Speaker 5: Now tell me about the flames?
Speaker 3: Are they real?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 8: In fact, I'm wearing them today.
Speaker 3: Would you like to see?
Speaker 5: Wait, we'll wait. Is it sick?
Speaker 3: What do you think of I think that's a years
Speaker 3: who do?
Speaker 11: Lovely?
Speaker 5: What do you think of the dress? Love the dress?
Speaker 7: I thought it was a comment on how easily amused
Speaker 7: and entertained we are, because you know, they come out
Speaker 7: and they're on fire, and the crowd goes nuts and
Speaker 7: they don't know who they are, and there's a lot
Speaker 7: there's a lot of commentary about that, about winning the
Speaker 7: crowd over and how easy it is, how easy it
Speaker 7: is to manipulate a population.
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean, which I know a lot about.
Speaker 3: You say, easily easily abused. I I think if we
Speaker 3: were at the Logans and somebody walked down and they're
Speaker 3: dress caught on fire, Yeah, we would be without being
Speaker 3: an accident. You'd be amazed, would be amazed and impressed,
Speaker 3: and you'd defend len Kravitz.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you would think it was me on the floor
Speaker 5: with a lighter, wouldn't you? Having let it check this out?
Speaker 3: I think I think that's that's an impressive dress.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's great.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and such a it's such a nice moment how
Speaker 7: she says like she's got it with her and you're like, what.
Speaker 5: What do you mean you got it with you? Yeah,
Speaker 5: and then and then she spins and it's a great moment. Well,
Speaker 5: what you talk.
Speaker 3: About the entertainment stuff. Apparently the idea came from Susan
Speaker 3: Colin's watching the Iraq War on TV and like flicking
Speaker 3: through channels and as the Iraq War and reality TV,
Speaker 3: so those are the two things we're kind of colliding
Speaker 3: together to inspire this idea. And then she brings in
Speaker 3: it's like, you've got the Iraq War as as it's
Speaker 3: being televised, this water gets televised, You've got Vietnam is
Speaker 3: there because the conscriptions, there's a Roman feel with the
Speaker 3: way the capital is set up. I think there's a
Speaker 3: lot of it's a grab bag of influences in this film.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's influenced a lot of other things. I
Speaker 5: thought it reminded me a lot of.
Speaker 7: Handmaid's Tale and the way that it's shot and how
Speaker 7: bleak it looks. You know the Handmaid's Tale if you've
Speaker 7: ever watched it. Whenever they're walking around the whole the area,
Speaker 7: every now and then, you just always hear a sound
Speaker 7: of security going just people talking to each other, and
Speaker 7: it creates an air of paranoia. Every time you hear that, say, oh,
Speaker 7: you've been watched And I reckon they might have got
Speaker 7: that from The Hunger Games because they do that in
Speaker 7: the soundscape really beautifully. Every now and then you'll hear
Speaker 7: Walkie talking on and it's like, oh, they're being watched.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nice. We don't take questions as well, so
Speaker 3: if anyone's got any questions about that, you want to
Speaker 3: ask us or quiz us. And also we're going to
Speaker 3: do a little quiz soon. So if you think you
Speaker 3: are the hungriest gamer in the room and you can
Speaker 3: beat Tom Gleeson in a hard quiz on Hunger Games,
Speaker 3: just prepare yourself and we'll find the biggest fan.
Speaker 5: Oh that's exciting.
Speaker 7: I mean, you'll probably beat me because I only watched
Speaker 7: it once two days ago and I had had a
Speaker 7: few wines, so if the questions are from the second
Speaker 7: half of the film could be a bit sketchy.
Speaker 3: So there was one scene that you because I hadn't
Speaker 3: even We've been up there for an hour or so
Speaker 3: catching up and trying in a way not to talk
Speaker 3: about the film, so I didn't even know if you
Speaker 3: had enjoyed it all night how I like to do it.
Speaker 3: But the one scene that you did ask me to
Speaker 3: get was the track of Jacks the Wasps. So let's
Speaker 3: let's have a look at this is pretty early on
Speaker 3: when they're out in the game, and Malark has joined
Speaker 3: up with the other gang and they've chased Catnus up
Speaker 3: a tree.
Speaker 5: For those of you who.
Speaker 11: Don't know, attackers are genetically engineered wasps whose venom causes
Speaker 11: searing pain, powerful hallucinations, and in extreme cases death.
Speaker 5: Track of Jackets loved it, loved every moment. You love
Speaker 5: it well, So I live in the country.
Speaker 7: I do a lot of tree lopping, Like I got
Speaker 7: to cut down branches all the time, and using the
Speaker 7: other side of a bowie knife.
Speaker 5: Oh what a nightmare.
Speaker 7: I wanted to I wanted to handle a coping saw
Speaker 7: or something for lopping trees to get through it quicker.
Speaker 5: Because you just like it's it's no good to cut it.
Speaker 5: She had to cop quite a few bites before she
Speaker 5: got through it. That's what I liked. She had to
Speaker 5: punch through it.
Speaker 3: To be honest, I don't I don't live in the
Speaker 3: country and I never do just stuff like that. But
Speaker 3: I admired that they actually made us watch her go
Speaker 3: to all that effort and worked really hard at getting
Speaker 3: that thing there.
Speaker 5: But it was the best. It was my favorite part
Speaker 5: of the film. I would have liked it if they
Speaker 5: played it for comedy not drama at the end though
Speaker 5: way more of a willfare all time. Somebody running into
Speaker 5: the tree because the wasp nest should have landed plumb
Speaker 5: on someone's bed.
Speaker 7: They can't, they can't see, and they're running around and
Speaker 7: they run and then they run into a tree and
Speaker 7: fall over, and to be played more for comedy, but
Speaker 7: also it raised another part of the film that again
Speaker 7: the alliances that I didn't quite they were very well explained,
Speaker 7: because I thought they were going to get really clever
Speaker 7: with the alliances and it was going to be revealed
Speaker 7: that they are a group for this advantage or that advantage.
Speaker 5: But she ends up hallucinating because she took quite a
Speaker 5: few bites.
Speaker 7: So she starts to go a bit off air, and
Speaker 7: then she gets looked after by the young girl who
Speaker 7: pointed out that wasp nest to her, and she sits
Speaker 7: with her and when she wakes up, she tells that
Speaker 7: she tells her, she said, you've been asleep for three
Speaker 7: days now it's the Hunger Games. She's been a sleep
Speaker 7: against a log for three days and this girl's just
Speaker 7: sat next like just knife straight in the neck, like
Speaker 7: I reckon to be a half hour into sleep. You're gone,
Speaker 7: like she's asleep anyway, she's not going to know stab
Speaker 7: but really what she didn't have a plan?
Speaker 5: No, what are you?
Speaker 3: What are you hoping for?
Speaker 5: Like this?
Speaker 3: I want to play another scene. Okay, So this is
Speaker 3: the scene where she goes, and this addresses that point.
Speaker 3: This is the scene where they've said, we're going to
Speaker 3: be generous. You all need something, we're going to live backpacks,
Speaker 3: come get them basically, and and Catus goes to the grave.
Speaker 3: Then she's confronted by somebody from another district.
Speaker 8: God, no, where's lover boy?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 8: I see you're gonna help him right? Oh that's sweet. No,
Speaker 8: it's too bad that you couldn't help your little friend,
Speaker 8: that little girl what was her name?
Speaker 9: Again?
Speaker 8: Yeah, we killed her, and now we're gonna kill you,
Speaker 8: just this time twelve.
Speaker 7: For Yes see, I got a problem with that too,
Speaker 7: because he's on a roll. Just finish her off too,
Speaker 7: you just killed her. But he goes, just this one time,
Speaker 7: there is no other time. If you're going to win
Speaker 7: the Hunger Games, you're going to kill everyone at some point.
Speaker 1: Just do it.
Speaker 3: But what about the girl who give us a big
Speaker 3: fucking speech? I know, don't give you love her boy,
Speaker 3: love a boy, don't fuck off, love her boy, kill her. Well,
Speaker 3: how many movies have you're seen where you waste time
Speaker 3: making a speech? No speech, no speech before you kill somebody,
Speaker 3: kill them and they make a speech. If you want to,
Speaker 3: you could.
Speaker 7: You could talk to them brages when they're dead, give
Speaker 7: you big one speech while they're dead.
Speaker 3: Rue was sad when obviously they've had before before them.
Speaker 3: But Rue her little guardian angel. They take her out and.
Speaker 7: Again by accident. So again they're trying to a portion.
Speaker 7: They're trying to lay the blame far away from our
Speaker 7: from our hero.
Speaker 3: If somebody asks you, Tom, if somebody's dying in your arms,
Speaker 3: they asked you to sing a song? Oh, which which song?
Speaker 3: Would that be?
Speaker 5: Happy Birthday? I don't know.
Speaker 7: Maybe I'd sing the hard Quick theme. I don't know
Speaker 7: what i'd sing to them. That's a really tricky question.
Speaker 3: It's a tense situation.
Speaker 5: It's a big ask. I'm really upset about it.
Speaker 3: The last thing they're going to hear is you sing
Speaker 3: a song and then you sing horses by Darryl Braithwait
Speaker 3: or something. So they do a nice thing where they
Speaker 3: obviously announced that there's a can win the Hunger Games
Speaker 3: if they're from the same district. Yes, that's a nice
Speaker 3: little thing they play with. Gives us a bit of hope.
Speaker 3: They go into the cave, and.
Speaker 7: I had the feeling that it was also about that's
Speaker 7: about TV production. It was about the TV show. They
Speaker 7: realized that there was there was a couple still there,
Speaker 7: and there was a love story that they had created
Speaker 7: in their reality show, and they thought that if they
Speaker 7: gave them the opportunity to win together, they might team
Speaker 7: up and they'd get it would be good for the ratings.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And then they do the nice little thing
Speaker 3: where they at the end they take that back. They say, no,
Speaker 3: we've changed the rules. It's almost like Tom, these people
Speaker 3: can't be trusted.
Speaker 5: People who work in TV. It's exactly what I thought.
Speaker 5: I loved it and oh yeah, that's a great thing.
Speaker 5: Then they just took it straight back. That was one
Speaker 5: of my favorite parts of the film. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 5: you do?
Speaker 3: Did you think? I mean, what did you think was
Speaker 3: going to happen? Had you projected? You assume she was
Speaker 3: going to win, and you assume both were going to
Speaker 3: get out?
Speaker 5: Yeah, because there were sequels. I knew there're sequels, so
Speaker 5: I must admit a lot of the tension was sucked
Speaker 5: out of the film for me because I knew that
Speaker 5: there were three more films to come, because I thought
Speaker 5: they're going to make it.
Speaker 7: I always knew they were going to make it. Yeah,
Speaker 7: even when she was being bitten by bees or wasps.
Speaker 3: Even when about the poison berries.
Speaker 5: Yep, they'll be right, they'll be right. Yeah, did you
Speaker 5: did you?
Speaker 3: It's I feel like The Hunger Games is a film
Speaker 3: that it's because it's massive success and Jennifer Lawrence becomes
Speaker 3: a megastar, and I feel like it's watching it back.
Speaker 3: It's it's harder, it's it's it's it's grimmer than I
Speaker 3: kind of remember.
Speaker 5: They do.
Speaker 3: But with that said, they do. It's grim for a PG.
Speaker 3: Thirteen audience, but in the same way when they win,
Speaker 3: they win and everyone celebrates. Yeah, but there's twenty two kids, yeah, teenagers,
Speaker 3: teenagers who deserved it. Who will be murdered or it
Speaker 3: depends on where you're fall But.
Speaker 7: I think of all the bad service you've ever got
Speaker 7: at McDonald's, Think about all the you know, ignoring you've
Speaker 7: got from your nieces and nephews are on their phone off,
Speaker 7: fucking date.
Speaker 5: They deserve it.
Speaker 3: And what did you think of Mentioned Hamsworth? Liam Hamsworth
Speaker 3: Gail again?
Speaker 5: So this is this is so exciting.
Speaker 7: So I know about Chris Hamsworth, he's Thoor right, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I didn't know what Liam had done. He's going out
Speaker 7: with Miley Cyrus. I'm like, how did he work that out?
Speaker 5: You're just trading off his brother's success. Who is this guy?
Speaker 5: Turns out? Who's in this film?
Speaker 2: All along?
Speaker 5: I didn't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good, He's not bad.
Speaker 5: He's not bad.
Speaker 3: He's not bad. Did you feel for him as he's
Speaker 3: watching he's watching well he are they an item? Can
Speaker 3: you say they're an item? Before they're going there?
Speaker 5: You feel they're an item? Yeah? And he has to
Speaker 5: watch the love story unfolded in the TV show.
Speaker 3: And then they're in a cave and they're gonna have
Speaker 3: somebody's going to hunger games up late, if you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Well, I felt moosted by hot Dogs.
Speaker 7: I felt that lim Liam Hemsworth was the perfect person
Speaker 7: to play that role because he would have like he's
Speaker 7: missing out while watching someone else do really well, So
Speaker 7: it would be like it's like him watching thor he
Speaker 7: would have tapped into that so easily, like I'm oh,
Speaker 7: here I am missing out, Like its core emotion is fomo.
Speaker 7: My brother's got a bigger house in Barren Bay than
Speaker 7: I do.
Speaker 3: Do you think he would have gone to the producers
Speaker 3: and gone I don't think she would actually choose It's
Speaker 3: not believable. Look at this, Josh Hutcheson kid, you know
Speaker 3: he's not happening. I'm a fucking Emsworth.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm a Hemsworth. I'm Liam. By the way,
Speaker 5: I know you've forgotten.
Speaker 3: Hey, does anyone have any questions before I bring somebody
Speaker 3: up to the go toe to toe with Tom? Anyone
Speaker 3: any observations about the film? Anything? Obviously we can't cover
Speaker 3: all of the film, and I don't think we think
Speaker 3: we've missed or any questions about You want to quiz
Speaker 3: anyone about you don't have to, Obviously we didn't take
Speaker 3: any questions last time. Going once.
Speaker 5: Yees, So here we go.
Speaker 3: Donald Sutherland, Yes, is President's You freak.
Speaker 7: Me out there because I've only just seen it and
Speaker 7: I'm like, oh my god, Donald pleasants must have painted
Speaker 7: himself like a rock and was lying just.
Speaker 5: Behind the other guy. I had no idea. He was
Speaker 5: alive when this film was made.
Speaker 3: He was great, and Donald Sutherland was He campaigned for
Speaker 3: this role. I believe as President Snow And Yeah, very
Speaker 3: a lot of Ed Harris vibes from Truman Show.
Speaker 7: Yes, I also liked I thought it was very poignant
Speaker 7: when he said the thing about how the way that
Speaker 7: when you when you control the population by fear, it's
Speaker 7: very very effective, but every.
Speaker 5: Now and then you have to give them hope. Well
Speaker 5: that it was quite a pointed remark, and I liked it.
Speaker 5: I liked it a lot.
Speaker 3: There was some nice little yeah.
Speaker 11: I like that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he gave He gave the film a bit of weight.
Speaker 7: I reckon that it probably wouldn't have had if he
Speaker 7: wasn't there.
Speaker 3: I love Donald Sutherland like he mean when I saw
Speaker 3: a JFK when I was fifteen, I went on holidays
Speaker 3: in Queensland and my mom dropped me off at the
Speaker 3: cinema by myself. There was JFK three and a half
Speaker 3: hour film and I came out just shaking. And that
Speaker 3: scene when he meets Kevin Costner in the in the
Speaker 3: one of the parks in Washington and just takes him
Speaker 3: through the conspiracy. Oh Man I was. I wanted to
Speaker 3: do something and then I just gone with my life.
Speaker 7: My favorite scene of his is he's an animal House
Speaker 7: and he sleeps, he sleep He's a lecturer at the
Speaker 7: at the university and they're playing up at the frat
Speaker 7: house and Boone's girlfriend who's played by the actress who
Speaker 7: plays Marion in Raiders the Lost, Karen Allen, and he
Speaker 7: sleeps with hers. Boone has to deal with it anyway
Speaker 7: when he The way that you know that they've slept
Speaker 7: together is he walks into the kitchen and he goes
Speaker 7: to get something off the top shelf, and he's wearing
Speaker 7: a shirt and it's revealed that he has no pants on.
Speaker 5: You know, that's Donald Sutherland's ass. That's great moment.
Speaker 3: That'll be the in the in memorium for Donald Sutherland.
Speaker 3: It'll be that scene for Animal House. Any other questions
Speaker 3: going once, going twice? Yes, Oh, it's a bloody good question.
Speaker 3: And Edmunds as Catnus Everdeen?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Who would be young Will Anderson as Gail? Who would
Speaker 3: be Peter Malark?
Speaker 5: I'd have to be Lloyd Langford. There a couple, why not?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Who's that Tommy? Little Tommy Little actually could be Gail.
Speaker 3: You like that President Snow, Oh, Greg lasses Catinus. Everything
Speaker 3: actually been being great, President Snow. I would have one
Speaker 3: of the elder statesmen like at Jack Thompson, Yeah, sensible
Speaker 3: choice choice, Stanley Tucci, Yeah, Gretel Colleen.
Speaker 7: Or alternatively, you could go a complete other way and
Speaker 7: just have all the competitors, just like all the stars
Speaker 7: of Channel nine, and now we've just got to kill
Speaker 7: each other, like bet at the mcg imagine Richard.
Speaker 3: Imagine Richard Wilkins having a paint his entire head. Though
Speaker 3: that's a big job. That is a big job. I mean,
Speaker 3: I love Richard Wilkins. He has whenever you meet him,
Speaker 3: his head is enormously. It's a beautiful man, but he
Speaker 3: says enormous.
Speaker 7: He's got a massive head. It's it's it's alarming when
Speaker 7: you're close to it, isn't it. Yeah, Sometimes you feel
Speaker 7: like you're being drawn towards it, like gravity. I've seen
Speaker 7: light disappear into his face. He's because the light bends
Speaker 7: towards the mass of his head.
Speaker 3: His ears are wider than his shoulders. It's weird anyway.
Speaker 5: I don't know how he does that. His ears hang
Speaker 5: over his shoulders.
Speaker 3: We love you, Richard. It's been mopping up at the end.
Speaker 3: All right, who thinks they are the biggest younger Games
Speaker 3: fan in the room? Who can take Tom glisten on
Speaker 3: in a quiz the finish the show? Who wants to
Speaker 3: go head to head? We have a volunteer? Who you
Speaker 3: dominating here by the many front? Do you feel like
Speaker 3: you know enough aut Hunger Games? Sir ye who said
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five?
Speaker 5: Yes, that's yeah.
Speaker 3: Come up, come on you out of applause the inaugural
Speaker 3: you ain't say nothing yet live quiz. Here we go.
Speaker 5: So what's your name? Yelled out.
Speaker 3: Analin Aali?
Speaker 5: And what's your what's your professional analy teacher?
Speaker 3: Anali?
Speaker 5: Teacher, experts subject the Hunger Games. Give her around, applause,
Speaker 5: make it her welcome. This will be fun. Here we go.
Speaker 3: They're easy questions. Yeah, Analie, and you're a teacher? Yeah, okay, Anali?
Speaker 3: Have you done the quiz on stage with Tom Gleason before?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Okay, good thing.
Speaker 5: I'll be polite because it's your podcast, Pete. I won't
Speaker 5: treat it like hard question. What do you secondary or primary?
Speaker 8: I'm a literacy intervention teacher for grade ones and two?
Speaker 7: Okay, you're intervene. All right, so you deal with dead ships?
Speaker 7: Is that how you intervene?
Speaker 5: You're dead ship? You can't read I'm here? Is that
Speaker 5: how it works?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No, sorry, you forgot that really quickly. Yeah, it's a reflex,
Speaker 3: and I want to welcome the kids. You're at the
Speaker 3: back of the room. Welcome kids. All right, use your
Speaker 3: names as buzzes. You're test your buzzer.
Speaker 5: It works.
Speaker 3: Here we go. They're really easy questions. Okay, give me
Speaker 3: the name of the person in charge of the second
Speaker 3: unit of production on the Hunger Games. Oh you need
Speaker 3: you needn't read the credits?
Speaker 5: No, sorry, okay, scratch that one.
Speaker 3: Scratch that one. Names as buzzers? What ages do you
Speaker 3: need to be to compete in the Hunger Games? Emily?
Speaker 3: Twelve to eighteen one point? Annali?
Speaker 7: Right, that's interesting because they say it's teenagers fight to
Speaker 7: the death. So that's not true because you can be twelve.
Speaker 3: Well this pointing, isn't it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I thought they were teenagers. I didn't realize they could
Speaker 5: be twelve?
Speaker 3: Prim is twelve?
Speaker 5: Really? Okay?
Speaker 3: No bonus points? Okay, nobody, we like the information, but
Speaker 3: no bonus points. Elizabeth Banks character's name is not mentioned,
Speaker 3: But what is it?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 3: Her name is never mentioned in this movie. Mentioned in
Speaker 3: the next few Oh, but what is it? I haven't
Speaker 3: seen the other one looks like Annalie or Tom? Does
Speaker 3: what you yell about? Effie Trinklet is correct? The audience
Speaker 3: gets a point and Lee won Tom zero. Audience won.
Speaker 3: Who wrote the book The Hunger Games? Susan correct? Two points.
Speaker 5: When I was watching it, I was halfway through it,
Speaker 5: I thought, this is I reckon, this was a book.
Speaker 5: I'm serious.
Speaker 7: I said it to mye I said, this is one
Speaker 7: of those books into a film thing, like The Godfather,
Speaker 7: Because you know, you know, The Godfather was the highest
Speaker 7: selling book. So you go, well, if we if we
Speaker 7: got half of those readers to go to the cinema,
Speaker 7: would make a lot of money. I thought, this has
Speaker 7: got Dan Brown written all over it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no bonus points. Which character was a previous
Speaker 3: winner of The Hunger Games? Analie Hamish, Hamish Abernathy is correct?
Speaker 3: You need that answer. You didn't get it.
Speaker 5: I just didn't know the character's name.
Speaker 3: Three points. Anal finished this sentence. No made the odds
Speaker 3: Annale Anale, I think the audience the ever in your favor.
Speaker 3: I think that's correct. Yes, four points. We all love
Speaker 3: an underdog, don't we? But who doesn't.
Speaker 5: Tom Tom me, I don't like an underdog?
Speaker 3: Can you think of a character in the movie The
Speaker 3: Hunger Games who doesn't like Is.
Speaker 5: It Donald Sutherland's character?
Speaker 3: It is Donald Sutherlan's character. President Snow does not like
Speaker 3: the underdog? Tom Gleason on the board. How much was
Speaker 3: Jennifer Lawrence paid for The Hunger Games? A one hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, B half a million dollars, C five million dollars,
Speaker 3: D ten million dollars Tom tom ce cee five million incorrect?
Speaker 3: Anally B five hundred thousand dollars is correct. Yes, she
Speaker 3: just paid ten million dollars for the sequel? Right? Name
Speaker 3: the sequels.
Speaker 5: A Tom Tom uh something to do with the mocking.
Speaker 3: Jay, Yes, parts one and two.
Speaker 5: I'll give you that, all right, as an accident.
Speaker 7: There are two of them there there there's one more
Speaker 7: catching something an arrow.
Speaker 3: Reasonable guess you're gonna get a clue over here.
Speaker 7: Catching a fire, catching a catching fire fires.
Speaker 3: I'm glazed and we'll give you that. Because of the dress.
Speaker 5: The dress links up girl.
Speaker 7: The mind Jay was in the in there and now
Speaker 7: I understand it all. I'll see how they're linked.
Speaker 5: The You just used to see these posters and bus
Speaker 5: stops and I don't know what any of this means.
Speaker 3: A fun fact in the is that the arrows whenever
Speaker 3: you've got an arrow that they were added later. Oh,
Speaker 3: they're actually shooting an arrow for real, because what happens
Speaker 3: when your shooting arrow is on set. Whenever you're shooting
Speaker 3: an arrow, you want to get obviously that shot of
Speaker 3: the person from the front end, but you can't have
Speaker 3: somebody shooting an arrow into a cinematographer. Yes, on, how
Speaker 3: does say married? We had We actually had a sequence
Speaker 3: where our younger daughter was actually shooting an arrow and
Speaker 3: we had the It was all put in afterwards. It's oh,
Speaker 3: it's amazing what they can do. True or false. Jennifer
Speaker 3: Lawrence is wearing a wig in Hunger Games. False Tom False,
Speaker 3: I gave you a chance. It's sucking true mate, Oh sorry.
Speaker 5: True.
Speaker 3: She didn't want them to be messing up with her hair.
Speaker 3: She had blonde hair. She didn't want experimenting with her hair,
Speaker 3: so they came up with some very expensive wigs.
Speaker 5: Oh they're very convincing.
Speaker 3: Yes, did they are fictional? This is the last question, okay,
Speaker 3: and it's worth twenty points to make it interesting so
Speaker 3: the audience can win and Lee can win, Tom can win.
Speaker 3: The fictional state in the hunger Gange is called panem
Speaker 3: and it derives from the Latin panem at circumstance circumstances,
Speaker 3: which is from the final days of the Roman Empire.
Speaker 3: What does panem at circumstensus mean?
Speaker 8: Bread and circuses?
Speaker 3: Bread and circuses for keeping the masses satisfied with cheap
Speaker 3: food and popular entertainment. Analyt is the winner of Orbal
Speaker 3: You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet Live Birthday edition? Are you
Speaker 3: ated nothing? Congratulations? Please give at Lee a drink on
Speaker 3: the way through to her seat. Put it on my tab.
Speaker 3: You are a fantastic winn to thank you everyone for
Speaker 3: coming to you. Ain't Seen Nothing Yet is out. Like
Speaker 3: I said, we've just started doing these live shows. We
Speaker 3: did one at the festival with Jude. We did one up.
Speaker 3: This is the first non festival one we've done. We
Speaker 3: had no idea if anyone would rock up, So thank
Speaker 3: you very much. Thank you to everyone. Hitt the Bronswi Bory.
Speaker 3: What a wonderful venue. This is well that Derek ma
Speaker 3: Is a Cosway Studios could be here. He's my partner
Speaker 3: in crime on this podcast. Thanks for him and everyone
Speaker 3: had token for helping out put this together. And of
Speaker 3: course the one and only Tom Gleason for me, my
Speaker 3: first guest and my one hundred guests.
Speaker 5: Thanks mate on this show. Thank you.
Speaker 3: And thank you for coming along. Feel free to hang around,
Speaker 3: have a drink. We'll be loitering around. Come up and
Speaker 3: say good day and have a selfie and made the
Speaker 3: odds and the force always be with you. I think,
Speaker 3: is that right? Thank you very much, guys, Thank you
Speaker 3: give a pete here again. This is given a studio
Speaker 3: wrap up of one hundred episod with Tom Gleason. Thanks
Speaker 3: again Tom, for everybody who came to the Brunsi Ballroom
Speaker 3: to see one hundred episode. If you ain't seen nothing yet,
Speaker 3: here's to the next one hundred. But right now I
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Speaker 3: of my favorite movies first and obviously hit the Star
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Speaker 3: le Thanks J. J. Leatsos, Milford, Massachusetts, USA. Well, JJ,
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Speaker 3: We recorded this a few weeks ago, and I have
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