1
00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,960
Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the

2
00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,000
Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers.

3
00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,600
Speaker 2: Now, you were just so mature beyond your years. You've

4
00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,239
Speaker 2: frawed me with your ability to do things and to

5
00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,000
Speaker 2: learn quickly. And you were just such a responsible child.

6
00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,520
Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mom

7
00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:25,040
Speaker 1: and dad.

8
00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,880
Speaker 3: Every now and again we do a podcast that I

9
00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,760
Speaker 3: get so excited about and stays the day because I

10
00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,640
Speaker 3: don't have to say very much at all. It's all

11
00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,479
Speaker 3: on That's unusual, it's all on you. Well, actually it's not.

12
00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,960
Speaker 3: We've got a special guest Mother's Day. Oh hang on,

13
00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,520
Speaker 3: I'm doctor Justin Colson. Always forget. I get excited about

14
00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,400
Speaker 3: this stuff and I forget. I'm doctor Justin Colson. I've

15
00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,280
Speaker 3: written a bunch of books about making your family happy.

16
00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,479
Speaker 3: And you are my wife, Kylie, with the mum of

17
00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,840
Speaker 3: our sixth daughters. And we are talking to your mum

18
00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,000
Speaker 3: because Mother's Day this weekend, and I thought, we thought,

19
00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,960
Speaker 3: how fun would it be to introduce Kylie's mum to

20
00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,240
Speaker 3: everyone who listens to the podcast.

21
00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,880
Speaker 4: No, I'm feeling a bit nervous. I think I'm going

22
00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,560
Speaker 4: to be in the hot seat somehow.

23
00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:09,679
Speaker 5: I'm really excited for this.

24
00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,520
Speaker 3: I've got some curly questions that I want to ask

25
00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,080
Speaker 3: your mum about you growing up.

26
00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:15,839
Speaker 5: Natasha. Thanks for joining us.

27
00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:16,800
Speaker 2: You're welcome.

28
00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,320
Speaker 5: He is how nervous I'm smiling.

29
00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,440
Speaker 3: I know we can't see you, but I get the

30
00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,760
Speaker 3: sense that it's a nervous smile. Hey, let's just start

31
00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,120
Speaker 3: with a brief intro. So you and Les have been married.

32
00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,160
Speaker 2: For forty three years.

33
00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,440
Speaker 4: Wow, that's only twenty more than us.

34
00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's amazing. And you've got three daughters.

35
00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,960
Speaker 2: Yes, my husband has a daughter to a previous marriage, Lisa,

36
00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,720
Speaker 2: but she's very much one of our own.

37
00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, we love Lisa. She's good value.

38
00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah she is.

39
00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,279
Speaker 3: Okay, so mum of three daughters. For if you include Lisa,

40
00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,520
Speaker 3: which we should, Let's talk about Kylie, because really that's all.

41
00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,720
Speaker 3: I am really interested in what it was like to Kylie.

42
00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,200
Speaker 5: How awesome was she.

43
00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,280
Speaker 2: Kylie was an awesome child. She was very, very gifted

44
00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:12,640
Speaker 2: and just a delight. Actually, Kylie was my love child

45
00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,120
Speaker 2: the only way I can describe Kylie. And she fulfilled

46
00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,240
Speaker 2: all of the dreams that I had of becoming a

47
00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,600
Speaker 2: mother for the first time.

48
00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,760
Speaker 3: Oh that is I'm genuinely sitting here getting all weepy

49
00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,960
Speaker 3: because you've said that. And when you say love child,

50
00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,359
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to dive too deep here.

51
00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,239
Speaker 3: But do you mean in every sense of the word

52
00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,560
Speaker 3: or do you just mean that you fell in love

53
00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,079
Speaker 3: with your child because she was.

54
00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,480
Speaker 2: Your child in every sense of the word.

55
00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,600
Speaker 3: Well, we might have to have a conversation about that

56
00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,000
Speaker 3: a little later around the dining table.

57
00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,120
Speaker 5: But I've heard a.

58
00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,520
Speaker 3: Couple of stories that I want to get the dirt on.

59
00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,760
Speaker 3: I want to get the reality on here Kylie today

60
00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,760
Speaker 3: is she just an incredible cook, But from what I understand,

61
00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,840
Speaker 3: she almost sent you and Les to hospital after one

62
00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:56,639
Speaker 3: particular meal.

63
00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,120
Speaker 5: That she cooked as a team. Can you shed some

64
00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:58,680
Speaker 5: light on that.

65
00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,320
Speaker 2: Me because I don't think I very much because I

66
00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,840
Speaker 2: don't like hot food. But Kylie and her and her

67
00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,400
Speaker 2: very good friend decided that they would come home and

68
00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,240
Speaker 2: cook dinner for us one night. And we had a

69
00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,920
Speaker 2: friend of Kylie's and also a very very dear young

70
00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,440
Speaker 2: man to us, Leith. He came for dinner. He was

71
00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,720
Speaker 2: the special guest of the evening, and she cooked a

72
00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,400
Speaker 2: Tai curry. I believe Kylie it was a green Tai curry.

73
00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,480
Speaker 4: It was green Tai curry. We never had tay curry

74
00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,240
Speaker 4: in our lives.

75
00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,840
Speaker 2: And anyway, she cooked up this meal that absolutely smelled beautiful,

76
00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,560
Speaker 2: and we're sitting at the table and Litha's eating it,

77
00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,520
Speaker 2: and he's eating it, and I swear I thought his

78
00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,840
Speaker 2: face was going to catch on Barret just it's so weird,

79
00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,520
Speaker 2: and he was just like shaking himself and he was

80
00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,000
Speaker 2: just it was just the funniest thing, but not really funny.

81
00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,120
Speaker 6: I think he drank two liters of water that night

82
00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,760
Speaker 6: at the dinner table. He's like the veins in his

83
00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,400
Speaker 6: neck were about to but unlike everyone else at the

84
00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,920
Speaker 6: dinner table, at least he ate it. I was so impressed.

85
00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,400
Speaker 2: So, Natasha, you didn't eat any I don't believe I did,

86
00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,760
Speaker 2: because I don't like hot food anyway. But I think

87
00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:20,600
Speaker 2: I think Carly's masta occurred because she had to extend

88
00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,520
Speaker 2: the recipe, and so she added about three times. I

89
00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,760
Speaker 2: don't know how much extra she edited the cup.

90
00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,000
Speaker 4: We reciply tripled the recipe and on the jar it

91
00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,039
Speaker 4: says for each five hundred grams of chicken you put in,

92
00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,200
Speaker 4: you were to put a third of the jar. So

93
00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,040
Speaker 4: I had a kilo and a half of chicken, and

94
00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,640
Speaker 4: I just thought, well, a third plus a third plus

95
00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,719
Speaker 4: a third, it was a whole jar. I'm good at maths.

96
00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,200
Speaker 5: It seems like a lot of curry to me.

97
00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,440
Speaker 4: Well, now that I eat tay curry, I think it

98
00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,200
Speaker 4: is a lot of curry too. But the jar said

99
00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,400
Speaker 4: to add a third, so I followed instructions.

100
00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,680
Speaker 3: I love this conversation. I love listening to I love

101
00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,040
Speaker 3: listening to the way that you talk about Natasha. She's

102
00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,520
Speaker 3: just the most wonderful wife and mom. To me, it's

103
00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,240
Speaker 3: a great tribute to you in the daughter that you raised.

104
00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,080
Speaker 2: I wonder I've been a most wonderful daughter.

105
00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:13,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

106
00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,480
Speaker 3: I think that you'd be hard pressed to find anyone

107
00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,680
Speaker 3: who would disagree. Mind you, I think the sixth that

108
00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,000
Speaker 3: I'm raising doing okay. I think that they're going to

109
00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,640
Speaker 3: do okay. My question for you, though, is before we

110
00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,040
Speaker 3: take a quick break, for you to raise a daughter

111
00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,160
Speaker 3: like that, there must have been some important things that

112
00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:35,239
Speaker 3: you learned from your mom or maternal figures in your life.

113
00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,039
Speaker 3: And with Mother's Day just around the corner, I wonder

114
00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,680
Speaker 3: if there's anything that you would say about that.

115
00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,240
Speaker 2: From my own mother, I wasn't raised by my mom.

116
00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,640
Speaker 2: I was raised by my grandmother. But from my own mother,

117
00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:53,160
Speaker 2: I learned my mom just had the most pure art.

118
00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:58,279
Speaker 2: She loved unconditionally, and she was a peacemaker. My mom

119
00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:03,800
Speaker 2: never created waves. And obviously with not being able to

120
00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,800
Speaker 2: spend time with her or we're raising us as her children,

121
00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,240
Speaker 2: me and my siblings, that was a bit of a challenge.

122
00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,840
Speaker 2: But the legacy that my mother left me was to

123
00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,880
Speaker 2: love everybody and to be a peacemaker and yeah, just

124
00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,440
Speaker 2: be a good person. From my grandmother, I learned the

125
00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,960
Speaker 2: ethics of hard work, and Kylie is the epitome of hard,

126
00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,240
Speaker 2: diligent work.

127
00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would definitely agree with that. Thanks for sharing that.

128
00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,200
Speaker 3: We're going to come right back after the break, and

129
00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,320
Speaker 3: Kylie's got a few questions for you as well. We'll

130
00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,880
Speaker 3: do that in just a sec because, well, I think

131
00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,360
Speaker 3: that we're going to get into some nitty gritty about

132
00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,400
Speaker 3: what it was like to be Kylie's mum.

133
00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,040
Speaker 1: It's The Happy Family's Podcast.

134
00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,440
Speaker 4: For a happier family, try a Happy Families membership, because.

135
00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,279
Speaker 5: A happy family doesn't just happen.

136
00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,600
Speaker 3: Details at happy families dot com dot au.

137
00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,560
Speaker 4: It's the Happy Famili's podcast, the podcast for the time

138
00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,520
Speaker 4: poor parent who just wants answers now and to we

139
00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,600
Speaker 4: have a very special guest, we have my mom.

140
00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,560
Speaker 5: This has been so enlightening already. Kylie.

141
00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:07,960
Speaker 3: You've got a list of questions that you want to

142
00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,520
Speaker 3: ask you, Mum and Natasha. This is the Happy Family's podcast,

143
00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,280
Speaker 3: So you've got to tell the truth that you can't

144
00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:13,840
Speaker 3: lie about this.

145
00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,400
Speaker 4: So, Mum, what's your favorite memory of me growing up? Well,

146
00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,040
Speaker 4: what's a quirky memory?

147
00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,080
Speaker 3: All of them, I would imagine all of them are

148
00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,240
Speaker 3: going to be your mum's favorite memories, and your two sisters.

149
00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,600
Speaker 4: I'm sure you've got a really nice story to tell everyone.

150
00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,880
Speaker 2: My favorite memory of you as a child, it's not

151
00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,680
Speaker 2: a quirky and it's not even really funny, but it

152
00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,560
Speaker 2: was your ability. You were just so mature beyond your years.

153
00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,760
Speaker 2: You've flawed me with your ability to do things and

154
00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,360
Speaker 2: to learn quickly, and you were just such a responsible charge.

155
00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:54,160
Speaker 2: You were more serious perhaps than your sisters. But my

156
00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:59,280
Speaker 2: favorite memory of you is your capability and your your

157
00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,040
Speaker 2: sense of responsibility. I know that's not funny, but it's

158
00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,240
Speaker 2: real and it's true.

159
00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,440
Speaker 3: I've got this feeling that if we ask my Mum,

160
00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,560
Speaker 3: that question. She's not going to answer that way about

161
00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,800
Speaker 3: me or about me. I don't think she'll say anything

162
00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:14,480
Speaker 3: like that about me.

163
00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:20,520
Speaker 4: Opposites attract, Honey, Yeah, I got the good stuff you did. So,

164
00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,160
Speaker 4: Mammy kind of answered my second question because it was

165
00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,040
Speaker 4: is there a trait that you saw in me that

166
00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,360
Speaker 4: kind of was a precursor for who I am today?

167
00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,000
Speaker 4: And you've you've really kind of touched on that.

168
00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,440
Speaker 3: So so I'm going to jump in and ask, did

169
00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,520
Speaker 3: you think that Kylie would turn out as well as

170
00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:36,320
Speaker 3: she's turned out?

171
00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,680
Speaker 2: She has turned out more than I expected she would

172
00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,920
Speaker 2: turn she would turn out to be She just was

173
00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,719
Speaker 2: an exceptional child in gyms of her sense of responsibility,

174
00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:55,439
Speaker 2: her maturity, and her ability to take care of her siblings.

175
00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,199
Speaker 2: Obviously I was at work and she would take care

176
00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,680
Speaker 2: of her siblings, and I always knew that I could

177
00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,240
Speaker 2: trust her and nothing has changed.

178
00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's so good.

179
00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,240
Speaker 3: I still don't see how you ever saw anything in me, hun,

180
00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,640
Speaker 3: but I'm so glad that you did.

181
00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:11,600
Speaker 5: What else?

182
00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,599
Speaker 4: Well, the next question actually relates to you. Oh no, Mum,

183
00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,920
Speaker 4: why don't you tell everyone? What were your first impressions

184
00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,240
Speaker 4: of Justin? Was he good enough? For me.

185
00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,080
Speaker 2: I can't answer that because hang.

186
00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,920
Speaker 3: On, hang on, hang on, Hey, I don't know if

187
00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,880
Speaker 3: I want you to think. I think we should just

188
00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,600
Speaker 3: solve this part of the conversation right now.

189
00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,120
Speaker 2: Well, if you remember, the very very first time we

190
00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,160
Speaker 2: met you was when Justin came to see you at

191
00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,000
Speaker 2: Uncle Kevin's house. Yes, so we didn't get to see

192
00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,240
Speaker 2: much of Justin, and I think we might even have

193
00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,760
Speaker 2: spoken to him outside the door. I don't even know

194
00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:51,920
Speaker 2: that he came into the house.

195
00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you did.

196
00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,160
Speaker 3: You came out and you laid down the law about

197
00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,400
Speaker 3: if you're going to take our daughter out, you need

198
00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,080
Speaker 3: to make sure that you respect full and you treat

199
00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:01,440
Speaker 3: her well.

200
00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:03,480
Speaker 5: Be home by midnight.

201
00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,160
Speaker 3: And if I recall, I had Kylie home at about

202
00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,920
Speaker 3: two minutes to midnight, and then we sat on the

203
00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,360
Speaker 3: front step for another hour and a half until one

204
00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,520
Speaker 3: day my uncle.

205
00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,480
Speaker 4: Locked the door on me because we didn't come inside.

206
00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,520
Speaker 2: Okay, well that was part of the first impression. The

207
00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:26,080
Speaker 2: other part was he was such a super confident young man.

208
00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,760
Speaker 2: I was just like blowing away, very different to your

209
00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,280
Speaker 2: mother and father, and he just had a I don't

210
00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,520
Speaker 2: know that it was a nervous energy, but there was

211
00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,120
Speaker 2: an energy about him. It was very easy to tell

212
00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,640
Speaker 2: that he was a person that was wanting to be moving.

213
00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,880
Speaker 2: But from the conversation with him also we sensed a

214
00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,320
Speaker 2: very intelligent young man.

215
00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,160
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know how I did that, but I'll

216
00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:53,559
Speaker 5: take it.

217
00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,000
Speaker 3: I do remember that the first time I called you,

218
00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,640
Speaker 3: I didn't know you at all. You answered the phone, well,

219
00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,440
Speaker 3: I was calling you. I was calling Kylie. But it

220
00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,760
Speaker 3: was back in the olden days where I had to

221
00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,120
Speaker 3: call a landline and you answered the phone and you said, hello,

222
00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,120
Speaker 3: this Natasha speaking. And I said, oh, Natasha, this is

223
00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,440
Speaker 3: justin Coulson, which was obviously that that confidence coming out,

224
00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,280
Speaker 3: and you were you were flawed that I wasn't calling

225
00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,200
Speaker 3: you missus Jones.

226
00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,480
Speaker 5: You were like, hang on a second.

227
00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,800
Speaker 3: There's there's supposed to be there's supposed to be some

228
00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,240
Speaker 3: difference here, some respect. And I believe that I didn't

229
00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:24,800
Speaker 3: make a good impression on that phone call.

230
00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,400
Speaker 2: I believe you might be correct, but that's that's that's

231
00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,080
Speaker 2: a custom, that's a cultural thing. The way that I

232
00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,920
Speaker 2: was raised was very very different, and that was I

233
00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,040
Speaker 2: think I was going to make the comment about you

234
00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,360
Speaker 2: coming from a very different world from the world that

235
00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,360
Speaker 2: I came from and the way that I raised my children,

236
00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,120
Speaker 2: so there was lots of education to come in the

237
00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:46,760
Speaker 2: years ahead.

238
00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:53,320
Speaker 4: Well, Mum, what do you miss, if anything, about being

239
00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,160
Speaker 4: a mum with little ones.

240
00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,559
Speaker 2: I miss having my children near me around me all

241
00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,480
Speaker 2: the time. I really missed set.

242
00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, those those morning huggies that we get from our kids.

243
00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,000
Speaker 3: One day we won't get them, and I'm really sad

244
00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:10,360
Speaker 3: about that.

245
00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,720
Speaker 2: Already, we bought a king sized bed so we could

246
00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,360
Speaker 2: have morning cuddles with our children.

247
00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,480
Speaker 4: I really was a water bed back then, it was

248
00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,160
Speaker 4: a bed. How many how many pins did you put

249
00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:23,680
Speaker 4: in that bed?

250
00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:24,000
Speaker 2: Mum?

251
00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,480
Speaker 4: Two minutes? That was back in the day when we

252
00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,760
Speaker 4: use cloth nappies and Mum would take the pin off

253
00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,720
Speaker 4: the baby's nappy and she would.

254
00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,760
Speaker 6: Stab the bed so she didn't lose it and we'd

255
00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:36,760
Speaker 6: spring a leak.

256
00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,440
Speaker 4: Really, my dad had to patch that bed up. I

257
00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,960
Speaker 4: don't know how many times.

258
00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,680
Speaker 5: I'm guessing a band aid wouldn't fix that.

259
00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,560
Speaker 2: The reason I was changing the nappies and the bed

260
00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,280
Speaker 2: was because I had difficulty getting out of the bed.

261
00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,800
Speaker 4: So, Mum, what do you know now that you wished

262
00:12:59,000 --> 00:12:59,839
Speaker 4: you knew back then?

263
00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,960
Speaker 2: I wished that I had known that it's okay for

264
00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:10,319
Speaker 2: children to be children and to play and to absolutely

265
00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,640
Speaker 2: learn how to love life. I wasn't raised that way,

266
00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,840
Speaker 2: and I didn't actually know how to do that.

267
00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:17,559
Speaker 5: That's beautiful.

268
00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,760
Speaker 4: I think that lesson though, in spite of the struggles

269
00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,600
Speaker 4: that you had, I think that inavertently you actually helped

270
00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,000
Speaker 4: me to come to that realization in our family, and

271
00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,000
Speaker 4: it's been such a blessing for us. And one of

272
00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:38,120
Speaker 4: the things that I love about I guess family life

273
00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:43,400
Speaker 4: and the progression is just that we actually are able

274
00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,760
Speaker 4: to take the lessons that we've learned from the previous

275
00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:50,720
Speaker 4: generation and be better. And you know, I know that

276
00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,240
Speaker 4: we've had conversations in the past where you just you

277
00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,720
Speaker 4: hope that your children will do better than you did,

278
00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,400
Speaker 4: and that is justin in my hope as well, that

279
00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,120
Speaker 4: our children will be better than us. And so that's

280
00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,680
Speaker 4: been such a great blessing for me to kind of

281
00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,480
Speaker 4: be able to move into that space and recognize that

282
00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,520
Speaker 4: our children need to have an opportunity to just be children.

283
00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love watching the way you and justin

284
00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,040
Speaker 2: interact with the girls and making special time for them,

285
00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,760
Speaker 2: special out and and special memories that will last beyond

286
00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,040
Speaker 2: many many things that they'll experience in their lives. It'll

287
00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,800
Speaker 2: be those cherish memories that you've created for them by

288
00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,080
Speaker 2: spending time with them.

289
00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,160
Speaker 3: So an obvious question, I know what the answer will be,

290
00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,680
Speaker 3: but I want to hear you say it.

291
00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,160
Speaker 5: Are you proud of Kylie?

292
00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,880
Speaker 2: I'm humbled and prefered and grateful for my beautiful daughter.

293
00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:47,440
Speaker 4: Thanks Mum. Another tricky question, what was one of the

294
00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,320
Speaker 4: hardest things that you had to learn as a mum?

295
00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I know this is supposed to be fun and

296
00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,720
Speaker 2: life and I'm going to try and answer that in

297
00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,360
Speaker 2: that way. But one of the hardest things for me

298
00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,080
Speaker 2: to learn as a mum was that it's okay to

299
00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,320
Speaker 2: make a mistake, it's okay to get things wrong, and

300
00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,080
Speaker 2: it's okay to learn from those mistakes and to move

301
00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,840
Speaker 2: on from that. But it was that was a lesson

302
00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,040
Speaker 2: that came quite late in life for me.

303
00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,680
Speaker 4: I love the answer that that answer, Mom, because one

304
00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,760
Speaker 4: of the things that I love about you, and the

305
00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,680
Speaker 4: thing that I think that I took away from my

306
00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:29,360
Speaker 4: growing up experience was watching you strive for betterment and

307
00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:36,200
Speaker 4: never giving up. You just you never let the challenges

308
00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,880
Speaker 4: in your life determine how you would be. You just

309
00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,520
Speaker 4: continued to battle and to fight for what you wanted,

310
00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,880
Speaker 4: and that has been a legacy that you have you

311
00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,960
Speaker 4: have passed on to me and something that I'm so

312
00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:53,520
Speaker 4: grateful for in my life.

313
00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,800
Speaker 3: In that vein, let me ask you, Kylie. We're talking

314
00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,720
Speaker 3: to you, mum because it's Mother's Dawn on Sunday. What

315
00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,520
Speaker 3: are you most proud of when it comes to your mum?

316
00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,120
Speaker 4: My mum had a really, really challenging up bringing. She

317
00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:14,520
Speaker 4: had a really hard childhood, and for so many of us,

318
00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,160
Speaker 4: it can be really really easy to use that as

319
00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,720
Speaker 4: an excuse for the way we choose to live our lives.

320
00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,360
Speaker 4: But my mom never used it as an excuse, and

321
00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,800
Speaker 4: I just I was so grateful that she fought for

322
00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,480
Speaker 4: for the happy family that she always hoped that she

323
00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:37,080
Speaker 4: could have, and that came at huge cost and huge effort.

324
00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:43,160
Speaker 4: But I'm so grateful that she didn't just accept her lot,

325
00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,640
Speaker 4: but she fought for what we now have as a family.

326
00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,080
Speaker 5: It's a beautiful tribute.

327
00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,280
Speaker 3: Thanks for sharing that, Hey, Natasha, It's been so good

328
00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,840
Speaker 3: of you to join us on the podcast. So grateful

329
00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,520
Speaker 3: that you took the time to share your insights and

330
00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,760
Speaker 3: share some fun stories about and what it was like

331
00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:02,360
Speaker 3: to be her mum.

332
00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,000
Speaker 5: Thanks for being a part of what we do.

333
00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,119
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, and thanks for raising her so

334
00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,120
Speaker 3: that I could take her away from you forever.

335
00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,080
Speaker 2: I love you, my daughter.

336
00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,040
Speaker 3: Oh I thought you were going to say you loved me,

337
00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,080
Speaker 3: but no, you've redirected straight back to Kyle.

338
00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,520
Speaker 2: But I love my daughter more.

339
00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, favoritism all right.

340
00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,560
Speaker 3: We really hope that you enjoyed the podcast today, something

341
00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,639
Speaker 3: a little bit different, an opportunity to get to know

342
00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:28,840
Speaker 3: Kylie's mum.

343
00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,360
Speaker 5: I think we should have her back on the podcast.

344
00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:31,359
Speaker 5: That was fun.

345
00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:33,480
Speaker 4: I think she'll be sweating.

346
00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,480
Speaker 3: The nervous energy's going to keep on going. So tomorrow

347
00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,400
Speaker 3: I'm really excited. Tomorrow we're going to talk to an

348
00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,440
Speaker 3: author of a book called The Gift of Failure.

349
00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:44,840
Speaker 5: It's Jessica Lay.

350
00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,040
Speaker 3: She's dialing in from overseas from the United States, and

351
00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,800
Speaker 3: we're going to talk to her about the Gift of Failure,

352
00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,520
Speaker 3: her book. And then on Thursday, the roles are reverse.

353
00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,880
Speaker 3: We've got my mum in the lead up to Mother's saying,

354
00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,800
Speaker 3: we're going to talk to mom about.

355
00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,720
Speaker 4: What I got some dirt on you?

356
00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,520
Speaker 3: Like me, so please join us over the next couple

357
00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,360
Speaker 3: of days for what should be a couple of absolutely

358
00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,720
Speaker 3: bumper podcast episodes. Thank you so much, by the way,

359
00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,920
Speaker 3: for being a part of the podcast and for listening.

360
00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,480
Speaker 3: We hope that it makes your family happier. If it does,

361
00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,160
Speaker 3: jump onto Apple Podcasts and leave a five star rating

362
00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,000
Speaker 3: and review so that other people can find out about

363
00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,280
Speaker 3: it and make their families happy. To the Happy Families

364
00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,639
Speaker 3: podcast as always produced by Justin Roland from Bridge Media.

365
00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,919
Speaker 5: Our executive producer is Craig Bruce.

366
00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,120
Speaker 3: If you'd like more info about how to make your

367
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,320
Speaker 3: family happier, you can find everything you need at happy

368
00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:40,280
Speaker 3: families dot com dot a you