1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: An innovative environmental approach is being used to compact an 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: invasive plant pest in Darwin Papaya merely bug, which can 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: impact the growth of plants and leaves its spread across 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: a number of suburbs after it was detected last year. 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: This new approach is going to see its natural predator 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: released and joining me on the line to tell us 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: a little bit more about the situation is its principal entomologist, 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: doctor Brian Thistleton. Good morning to your doctor. Good morning, 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning. Now, firstly, 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: can you tell us a bit more about the pest 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: and how it impacts plants. 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: Well, it's a millibug. It's a sucking insect which lives 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: on the plant, sucks the sap and causes distortion the relief. 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: It's causing trandypaney leaves now to fall off. It is. 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 2: It's a new pest for the territory. It came in 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: middle of last year, but it comes initially from Central 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: America and in twenty twenty. In two thousand, it moved 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: from Central America into the USA and caused a lot 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: of problems in Florida. They did a lot of research 20 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: and found some native predators in in Central America and 21 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: introduced them into Florida and later into a number of 22 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: country in Southeast Asia where the mellibuger got through and 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: those parasitoids and little tiny wass were really effective. We'll 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: have those here. They've actually come in with the mediabug 25 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: are building up, but they're not in big enough numbers 26 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: yet to control them. In the meantime, there is a 27 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: native ladybird which is a predator. It's called the mellibug 28 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: ladybird and that feeds on the mellibug and that's what 29 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: we were that is already in Darwin. But what we 30 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: did last week was got some more from their available 31 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: for biological supply houses and we got some more and 32 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: made a release of those. 33 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so it sounds really interesting. Actually, So how 34 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: do you release all of those of their specific areas 35 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: where they get released, Well, I mean. 36 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: They can be released more widely eventually. We just did 37 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: a last week. We did a demonstration on some plants 38 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: on the Espanade and then we had quite a few extra. 39 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: So we're distributed around the suburbs, but in a lot 40 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: of places we're finding them there naturally anywhere they are 41 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: already present in Darwin and starting to build up. 42 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: And so at this point in time, if they're already present, 43 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: if they are starting to build up, how's the trial 44 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: sort of going to work aside from what was done 45 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: last week? Is there still going to be some more 46 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: of them put out there in the different suburbs. 47 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: Well, we're not funning that as such. We were really 48 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: doing the release to show what could be done if 49 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: we need to increase the numbers. We're also monitoring the 50 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: natural populations and we have had areas where they have 51 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: built up and already given good control. I know a 52 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: lot of people are We're getting lots and lots of 53 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 2: inquiries at present because people are noticing this, this medibug 54 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: and it's causing lots and lots of damming. An interesting 55 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: thing about this melibug, that the labor bird, is that 56 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: it's been it's only found in Australia, or used to 57 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: be only found in Australia. It's been introduced all around 58 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: the world by other countries specifically to give mellibug control, 59 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: not just the pa Prie melli bug, but other media bugs. 60 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: And it's called overseas, it's called the melli bug destroyer, 61 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: so it is really really effective. 62 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: And so how wide spratty is the issue of old 63 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: mealy bug at this point in time in the territory. 64 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: Well, the the prie media bug is only in Darwin. 65 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: Well last year came into Darwin, it's now in Darwin, Palmerston. 66 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: We've phaps records from Howard Springs, We've had some records 67 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: from Wago Beach. So it is, it is spreading, but 68 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: it's not elsewhere in Australia. There are a number of 69 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: other meinie bugs and that's one of the issues. There 70 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: are other native media bugs that can be mistaken for 71 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: this thing. 72 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: And so look, I've got a couple of people messaging 73 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: me this morning right now, Brian saying, oh, Katie, is 74 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: this going to be a situation like what we heard 75 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: with the cane toad, you know, all those years ago. 76 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: But by the sounds of it, what the approach is 77 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: is it is actually a natural you know, the natural 78 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: inact insect, sorry, this ladybird. So it's not as if 79 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: we're introducing something from you know, from somewhere else into Australia. 80 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: No, that's no, it is a natural thing. Anyway, The 81 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: parasitoid is something that's come in from overseas, so that 82 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: is something that has come in naturally, but it is 83 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: an exotic insect. But the parasitoid is very specific to 84 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: the media bug, so that won't be aka problem. 85 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: Now, Doctor Brian Thistleton, there's going to be people listening 86 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: this morning who are thinking to themselves or goodness me, 87 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: you know I've got merely bug or my friends of 88 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: pannies or or they're worried about this papye merely bug. 89 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: What should people do if they suspect that they have 90 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: papye and merely bug on their property. 91 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: Well, if it's on a friend of panny, it's almost 92 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: certain to be this. We we can identify them, but 93 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: we're actually asking people we now know where it is, 94 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: so we don't need lots of lots of samples coming 95 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: in to do more identification manly, because the labs of 96 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: you know, we want we want to work on the 97 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: control rather than a lot of diagnostics and diagnostics. If 98 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: we're identifying this media bug, we actually have to make 99 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: microscope slides of the media bug. So it's it's a 100 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: preparation period that's quite quite a long time for example, all. 101 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: Right, so they don't need to call in and let 102 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: you know, but they. 103 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: Don't need to report, but can look on our website. 104 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: We do have a fact sheet which we're in the 105 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: process of updating now telling you what to do. The 106 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 2: insecticides are not very effective at all because it's covered 107 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: in a waxy coating. The insecticides can't penetrate and can't 108 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: give control. And this was the experience from all the 109 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: overseas countries too. The only insecticides, or it's not really 110 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: an insecticide, but the only things at work are There 111 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: are things that are oil sprays and agricultural oils and 112 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 2: soaps which work by smothering the menibug and you can 113 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: spray those and they don't affect the parastoids. Unfortunately, you 114 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: can spray those. But I mean, obviously some of these 115 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: friendy pannies are very tall. You can't get up there 116 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: to spray them. 117 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: Well, Principal Entomologist, doctor Brian Thistilton, I really appreciate your 118 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: time this morning. Thanks very much for having a chat 119 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: with us. Okay, thank you, thanks for you tell him