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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda gam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Well, TikTok officially went dark for over one hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventy million American users, with subscribers threatening to jump ship

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Speaker 2: to a different, but possibly sketchy, a Chinese owned platform

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Speaker 2: at the last minute, though it appears the app may

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Speaker 2: have been restored. I think thanks to Donald Trump. It's

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Speaker 2: very confusing. Meg Coffee is a social media expert, and

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Speaker 2: she's going to explain what the hell is going on? Meg?

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Speaker 1: Hello, good morning. What a mess this ale is, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Do we have TikTok or not in the States at

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Speaker 2: the moment?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, because of the savior, Donald Trump, it

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Speaker 1: is back, or at least it appears to be back

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Speaker 1: for a little while. But who really knows. It's all

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Speaker 1: one big propaganda machine. If you asked me over the

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Speaker 1: past twelve hours.

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Speaker 2: Well, traditionally, I mean initially, wasn't it that Trump wasn't

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Speaker 2: trustful of it? And neither was Joe Biden, which is

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Speaker 2: what has led to this that it was giving the

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Speaker 2: Chinese too much information about people? Is that the problem?

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Speaker 1: So back in twenty twenty, it was Donald Trump, of

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Speaker 1: all people, that raised the band, that raised the idea

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Speaker 1: of a band and said, look, it's ryinga owned we

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Speaker 1: can't have that. They're stealing all of our data and

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Speaker 1: so trying to We've got to do something about this.

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Speaker 1: And then it passed on to Biden, and then Biden

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Speaker 1: did pass a law that said, look, TikTok, you guys

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Speaker 1: can't run. They didn't say you have to go dark,

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Speaker 1: they just said that you can't be updating things. TikTok

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Speaker 1: chose to remove itself completely, and it was really fascinating

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Speaker 1: to watch the sort of the announcements or the pop

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Speaker 1: ups that came into TikTok yesterday as they were shutting

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Speaker 1: it down. You know, the very first announcement was we're

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Speaker 1: shutting down, and then the second one was we're shutting down,

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Speaker 1: but we think Trump will say that.

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Speaker 2: And how much is TikTok worth? Like, say, if X

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Speaker 2: is worth forty billion dollars, what's TikTok worth?

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Speaker 1: You know, that's that's the billion dollar question. Some people

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Speaker 1: are putting it at about fifty billion five zero, so

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's definitely worth something. It's the algorithm,

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Speaker 1: it's the fact that they've figured how to entertain everyone

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Speaker 1: and just keep them on the platform.

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Speaker 2: That's so valuable, and a whole lot of women's easy

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Speaker 2: to make fun of influences, but this is a way

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Speaker 2: of earning a living for so many people. This must

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Speaker 2: be a huge deal if TikTok goes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, a lot of the Americans were really worried

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Speaker 1: about that because TikTok is their main source of income,

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Speaker 1: you know, and you see both sides, so you are

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Speaker 1: you are disappointed that they have lost it. But you know,

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Speaker 1: anyone that has been in marketing or business for a

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Speaker 1: long time since, you've got to diversify things and and

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Speaker 1: he can't put all your eggs and on basket. So

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Speaker 1: if you were only on TikTok, maybe that wasn't great.

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Speaker 1: But that's another conversation. You know. Yeah, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of Americans that were all of a sudden really freaking

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Speaker 1: out and going, is my entire income stream gone?

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Speaker 2: And so do you think Donald Trump will be the

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Speaker 2: savior here and say hey, I save TikTok?

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Speaker 1: Of course he will. That's the whole m o going here.

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Speaker 1: You know that the pop up wouldn't have changed the

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Speaker 1: way that it did, the announcements that are coming out,

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Speaker 1: the way that he sent me his truth social whatever

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Speaker 1: tweet that they're called, you know, saved TikTok. It's all

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Speaker 1: I'm a skeptic on this one. I have my tinfoil

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Speaker 1: hat on, but it's all to make him look good,

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Speaker 1: Andy and Donald Trump make himself look good.

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Speaker 2: So this would be business as usual by the end

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Speaker 2: of the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it'll be back to this

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Speaker 1: this as usual TikTok. There are changes going on. There's

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Speaker 1: something going on behind the scenes. We you know TikTok

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Speaker 1: cap Cut, which is a big editing software that one's gone.

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Speaker 1: Meta has announced their arrival today. This is not over.

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Speaker 1: There's a whole bunch of jockeying behind the scenes, and

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Speaker 1: everyone's going to Trump's inauguration. So watch that face.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we'll be working on our TikTok dance and

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Speaker 2: by the time it sorts itself out, we'll have it

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Speaker 2: worked ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well remember Australia to find the haven't impact us? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we still have TikTok having changed. Okay, it was only

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Speaker 1: that it wasn't There wasn't some Americans that.

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Speaker 2: Could I can get back to doing what I saw

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Speaker 2: a woman do yesterday, which is bake perfectly beautiful cakes

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Speaker 2: with icing and then sit on them.

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Speaker 1: There thing. Meg, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Meg Make Coffee dep