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Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say

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Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and

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Speaker 1: Sophie Torbo. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have

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Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers

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Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women.

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Speaker 1: That is so fat Hello and welcome to Outspoken, and

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Speaker 1: officially welcome back Kate. Oh it feels good to be back.

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Speaker 1: I had a bit of fomo last week listening to

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Speaker 1: you guys do an episode without me, and that's because

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Speaker 1: I'm back at work, back at the old soul mind.

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Speaker 1: How did it all go? It was actually really good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't been up at seven fifteen for

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Speaker 1: at seven fifteen. Oh. I was so proud of myself.

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Speaker 1: I was telling one of my former coworkers, Oh, you

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Speaker 1: thought I meant like eight o'clock and I'm like, so

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Speaker 1: I get there at ten to nine and she first

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Speaker 1: start laughing, but I'm like, that's good for me, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're very onto the specifics, though you and your boyfriend Reese,

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Speaker 1: Amy and I have had a bit of a laugh.

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Speaker 1: You live a very regimented lifestyle at the moment. You

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Speaker 1: get out of tea as you deser. No, we've been

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Speaker 1: calling you guys the old married couple because you actually

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Speaker 1: have a white board. And I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people probably do this, but I don't.

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Speaker 1: But you guys are listing each night what you've planned

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Speaker 1: to have for dinner. It's just called meal prep. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people do it, and you're not flexible. You know,

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Speaker 1: after my dinner. Well, we're saving for a house, so

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Speaker 1: we're trying to do our big shop and then you know,

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Speaker 1: be responsible about it. I suppose. Well, talking about houses, Sophie,

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Speaker 1: Well, I made the announcement in our podcast community for

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Speaker 1: those who are playing along at home, and it has

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Speaker 1: a shout out to Demo and Lauren, who correctly guessed

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Speaker 1: the twenty eight days. I was two weeks off. I

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Not so good for Sophie who

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Speaker 1: had to pay for extra weeks off double rend. I'm

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Speaker 1: happy with that. I don't think that's that bad. And

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Speaker 1: we do have to apologize and let you guys know

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Speaker 1: we are going back to releasing our episodes on Tuesdays.

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Speaker 1: It clearly didn't work. My work schedule has changed, so

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Speaker 1: now I get Mondays off so we can continue to

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Speaker 1: just a little bit of an interesting fact before we

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Speaker 1: So the UK government has reinstated the fourteen day quarantine

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Speaker 1: and I am not surprised at all about that. No,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing. Though. Let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: and completely toned death. They're the influencers many of us

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Speaker 1: and what have you been noticing on your feed recently? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that it's been something that's been happening now

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Speaker 1: appeal was obviously how beautiful she is, but also her house.

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Speaker 1: I should say, well, people's houses really do it because

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Speaker 1: But do you think it comes back to that idea

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Speaker 1: people want to look successful. Therefore they're putting out all

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Speaker 1: It's making me feel like shit. And then what's going

430
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 1: to happen is the brands are going to go, well,

431
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 1: we're not going to work with these people anymore. They've

432
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 1: had ten thousand, you know, followers drop off. Let's keep

433
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 1: an eye on social blade over the next couple of weeks.

434
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,120
Speaker 1: I was just about to say that, yeah, we will

435
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,479
Speaker 1: definitely keep and have an update on people that we

436
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 1: deem these rich influencers and let you know how their

437
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 1: follow accounts are going. Let's get into the pit and

438
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 1: peak of the social media week now, so if you

439
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 1: can you start us off with the peak, please definitely. Well,

440
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,879
Speaker 1: it was the fact that the Money Highest stars have

441
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 1: announced that they are back filming the final series of

442
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 1: Money Heist. Now it did break my heart a little

443
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 1: bit to hear that this is going to be the

444
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: last chapter of the story and Netflix revealed a post

445
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 1: saying that the Heist will come to an end. Well,

446
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,719
Speaker 1: I'm kind of not surprised. Where could they really go.

447
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 1: They've done a second highst It's unlikely that they could

448
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,880
Speaker 1: do another way after this. So this doesn't mean there's

449
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 1: going to be any more deaths because I'm still getting

450
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,439
Speaker 1: over no Robi dying, but I have heard that there

451
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 1: are potentially some spin off shows in the work, so

452
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 1: that should be interesting. Well, there were some new theories

453
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 1: that have come out from fans as well. One of

454
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 1: them is that they think that the police officer Alisha,

455
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 1: who was of course the pregnant woman, They say that

456
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: now she's gone rogue. They think that she is either

457
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: the ex wife of Berlin or the pregnancy is completely fake. Really,

458
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: and do they think she's going to join the heist?

459
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 1: I haven't, Actually, I have seen that theory floating around

460
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 1: because at the end of the series, I believe isn't

461
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: she heard singing Belichow? Yeah, Well, my theory is that

462
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 1: because she's holding the Professor at gunpoint at the moment,

463
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: my theory is at her water breaks, So I think

464
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 1: the pregnancy is real. But who knows. We'll have to

465
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: wait and see when the professor. Wouldn't he just be

466
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 1: able to deliver the baby? Oh my gosh, I didn't

467
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 1: get any better. He's probably just gonna sweep in, deliver

468
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 1: the baby, and then somehow get rid of her so

469
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: they can continue the highest. Is it wrong that I've

470
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: got a weird crush on the Professor? I think a

471
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: lot of women have a crush on it. It's so cute.

472
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: There's just something so cute about him. There's also two

473
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: new cast members who have been announced to appear in

474
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: this series as well, so it should be interesting how

475
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: they fit into the game. And it's expected that, because

476
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 1: there obviously has been a delay in filming because of coronavirus,

477
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: that we're not going to see this series until some

478
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: point in twenty twenty one. Oh my gosh, it's a

479
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 1: long time to wait. Well, moving on to the pit

480
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: of the week, and it had to be Olivia Rodgers

481
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: being trolled online. Now, for those who don't know, Olivia

482
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: is a pediatric speech pathologist in addition to being a model,

483
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: an artist, a mental health advocate, and you know, all

484
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: round amazing person. Former Miss Universe.

485
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 2: Yes us.

486
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, So last week, this dickhead went onto her account

487
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: and basically said to her that if she rocked up

488
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: to the clinic that Olivia works out and Olivia came

489
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: out to work with her son, she would laugh and leave. Now,

490
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: this was a woman that wrote this, and I think

491
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: that's probably the most disappointing part of this, that it

492
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 1: is women continuing to attack other women She also went

493
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: on to write a letter to Olivia's boss, and the

494
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: basis of her comments were that you can't be attractive

495
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: and also be intelligent, which is absolutely ridiculous. Yeah, and

496
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 1: I loved the post Olivia put out defending herself. She

497
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 1: had a photo of herself in her kind of speech

498
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: mythology gear and then a picture of her and bikinis

499
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: at Miss Universe and as you touched upon, Olivia went

500
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: on to explain beauty and brains are not mutually exclusive,

501
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 1: and women are multifaceted beings and can be whatever they

502
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 1: want to be. She also shared some other inspirational pages

503
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: of women working in Allied Health and them wearing a

504
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 1: bikini as opposed to them wearing their kind of theater

505
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: gear or their medical gear, and I thought it was

506
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: really cool. It is it is. I think it's just

507
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,239
Speaker 1: such an archaic view as well, that women can't have

508
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: brains and also be beautiful. It got me thinking, though,

509
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: because I saw on the project all these women are

510
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: going nuts over the chief Health Officer, Brett Sutton, and

511
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: they're going on that he's really hot and attractive, and

512
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's sort of like the whole jock on

513
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: Master chef thing. There's been this weird crush that's been

514
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: going on about him, and it's kind of funny that

515
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: people allow him to be very intelligent and really trust

516
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: what he's saying, but then he can be hot. So

517
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: why can't Olivia Rodgers be the same? Do you know what?

518
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 1: It kind of ties in though with this stereotype though,

519
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: because there because the women are shocked that this chief

520
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: Health officely is actually hot, I feel like that's what

521
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: it is, And because I'm staring at all these old politicians,

522
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, there's actually an attractive I think.

523
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: So I think that people think that a lot of

524
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: men who work in medical fields are attractive. Even more politics, Well,

525
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 1: I actually think it's more the fact that women can

526
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: only be one thing, whereas men can be multiple things.

527
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: So this guy could be hot and successful and smart,

528
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: whereas Olivia Rogers has to fit into a box. Okay,

529
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: so we're putting her into the box of being miss

530
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: Universe and she cannot be anything else other than that.

531
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: And I think that's the point of it all. There's

532
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: a lot of things that people don't know what actually

533
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: happened between Kieran and I. Now, let's get into the

534
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: reality wrap and it's been a massive week in bachelor land. Now,

535
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: of course, everyone's been talking about the fact that Ellie

536
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: Miles and her sister Becky have been named the two bachelorettes.

537
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: What did you guys think of that? I hate it.

538
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: I was really I was really disappointed. And I think

539
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: it's a very strange move by the Bachelor because we've

540
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 1: seen in the past Angie Kent obviously being cast as

541
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: last year's bachelorette, and then we've seen Lockie from Survivor

542
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: being cast as this year's bachelor. So it's obviously they're

543
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: steering clear of going down the celebrity route. But it

544
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: seems odd because I thought the reason they were picking

545
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: celebrities was because no one literally cared about the former

546
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: contestants anymore. I don't care about Ellie, I don't care

547
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: about her sister. I mean, could we not? I mean

548
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: unless there's some twist and the sister is by or

549
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: something and we get to see women and men on

550
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: the show, that I'm all for it. Yeah, I'm waiting

551
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: for a twist. Well. The fact so VI's touched upon

552
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: is that a lot of people are talking about the

553
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: fact that Channel ten on their casting call have said

554
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: they're looking for both men and women, So I think

555
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: we're hoping that there's some form of on this show

556
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: rather than two blonde women that are basically the same age,

557
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: from the same family trying to find life. And what

558
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: is this weird thing where they're competing against each other.

559
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe because we're sisters and very close.

560
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just find it gross that they're

561
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: having to There's clearly going to be some they're going

562
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: to like the same guy, and there's going to be

563
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: this fake, manufactured drama, and I'm just not into it. Well,

564
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: it's interesting because a lot of people are saying that

565
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: obviously this has happened in New Zealand recently, But the

566
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: whole thing was that the two women were extremely different.

567
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: We had a woman of color who was nearly forty

568
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: who was adoptor, and then we had a young previous

569
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: contestant brought in, so they were completely different. But these

570
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: two women are exactly the same, and it really got

571
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: me thinking, well, are they ever going to make two

572
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: bachelors happen? Well, do you know what, though, you say

573
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: that they're the same women, but I suppose the difference

574
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: is that are actually sisters. That's probably the bit that's

575
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,479
Speaker 1: meant to be the twist, like, oh my gosh, how

576
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: are they going to behave? Do you know who would

577
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: have been good? Glenn and his brother. Have you seen

578
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: he's a twin except his brother's actually gay. Yeah, and

579
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: he's got a boyfriend. Oh okay, sorry. What I found

580
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: interesting was because a lot of there was a lot

581
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: of talk about, okay, would this ever happen for the

582
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: male Bachelor? And I did a bit of research and

583
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: it actually has happened in Sweden of all places. Really. Yeah,

584
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen they had Simon and Felix, but it

585
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: was a little bit different, and it was like the

586
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: New Zealand one where they had one Bachelor and then

587
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: as a surprise, they bought in the second. So it

588
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: seems odd that they're already announcing the fact that there's

589
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: actually two Bachelorette. I feel like once the Bachelorette rolls around,

590
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: everyone has a bit of fatigue over the franchise because

591
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: we've already had Bachelor in Paradise, then we're gonna have

592
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. So I feel like they're trying to do

593
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: something that's a little bit different. I actually think it's

594
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: because can you imagine if they just announced Ellie as

595
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: the Bachelorette. I feel like there would have been a

596
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: lot of disappointment because while she was kind of well liked,

597
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a boring pick. I must say.

598
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't really a fan of her on the show

599
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: because I didn't really like her interactions with Abby Chatfield,

600
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: and I also thought that she was trying to call

601
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: other people out for seeking fame, but then started up

602
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: a YouTube channel as soon as she left, and then

603
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: also is now the Bachelorette, which would have been something

604
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: I feel like you have to put yourself forward for

605
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: as well. Come when I think she came across as

606
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: quite lovely, well, it was a little bit contradictory. Well,

607
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: moving further on into the Bachelor world, obviously, there has

608
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: been a lot going on in Bachelor and Paradise, and

609
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: one of the big stories that we've all been talking

610
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: about is the fact that Jamie is taking legal action

611
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: about ten. Unfortunately Channel ten didn't actually know that because

612
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: they were yet to receive any documents from him. Well,

613
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: the legal process can be quite lengthy. Yeah, Well, since

614
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: ten actually put out a statement saying they haven't heard

615
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: from him. Apparently he's now got on board a defamation

616
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: lawyer who actually represented Maths NASA in his victory against

617
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: The Daily Telegraphs. I definitely feel like he has some

618
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: sort of case against Channel ten because the way that

619
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: he has been portrayed on that show is appalling. And

620
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: I understand, but they signed a contract. No, but I understand,

621
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: What do you mean? I signed a contract doesn't mean

622
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: they can portray him anyway they Okay, But defamation is

623
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: actually quite hard to prove because Channel ten have all

624
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: the evidence of exactly what has been said. So I'm

625
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: assuming they'll have to subpoena all of those tapes. I

626
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: think that's a really difficult case and it will be

627
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: interesting to see the outcome because Channel seven they were

628
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: facing they actually lost a case against I can't remember

629
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: the house rules contestants who were actually bullied on the set.

630
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: I think we can. I just say I think there

631
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: is some substance to Jamie's claims. I mean, a lot

632
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: has been said about his mental health at the moment,

633
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: but how was he to fained because we don't actually

634
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: know what he's suing for. And I think the loophole

635
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: with the House Rules couple was the fact that yes,

636
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: they had sign a contract that they would could be edited.

637
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: But I think the loophole was that they were considered

638
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: employees of Channel seven, so then they fall under the

639
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: bullying and sort of how you treat someone. So I

640
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: think that would probably set the precedent for Jamie's case.

641
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: Or do you not think that they've edited what he

642
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: said to make him sound ridiculous. I think that he

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Speaker 1: said all of those things, and do you know what

644
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Speaker 1: you can you can hear them, you can hear how

645
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Speaker 1: they cut up what people set. They've heard from a

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Speaker 1: lot of cast members. The fact that he has said

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Speaker 1: those things, Well, I think we should go to our

648
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Speaker 1: snippets from our interview with Eleanor and also with Janie

649
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Speaker 1: from Bachelor in Paradise, who we put some of these

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Speaker 1: very questions to. Yeah, so we will play the full

651
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Speaker 1: extended interviews later this week, but you can just hear

652
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Speaker 1: a little bit of information about what they thought about Jamie.

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Speaker 3: Don love love.

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Speaker 4: Jamie, and like, but you can't sue people for a

655
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Speaker 4: contract that you signed, Like when you sign their contract,

656
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Speaker 4: it basically says we can do whatever the.

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Speaker 3: Hell you want with you and obviously it's not nice

658
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Speaker 3: when it's actually happening, but it's just it's just what.

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Speaker 4: You signed and Jamie, you know, it's not like.

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Speaker 3: I ever watch Jamie and thought, oh my god, so

661
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Speaker 3: like like misrepresent everything you see and I never thought

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Speaker 3: it would be the case.

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Speaker 4: But everything you see is.

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Speaker 3: Kind of as it is on on both The Bachelor,

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Speaker 3: and like you never watch it and oh my god,

666
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Speaker 3: that's wild, like that didn't happen.

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Speaker 4: It's like, no, no, no, that did happen.

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Speaker 3: Obviously there's a little bit of editing and things that

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Speaker 3: go on just for dramatic effects, but mostly what you

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Speaker 3: see is what you get.

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Speaker 4: Really.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of contestants talking about how their

673
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Speaker 1: words are being cut up or they've been misrepresented. What

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Speaker 1: do you think about that?

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Speaker 2: I do understand, like if you watch the show, you

676
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Speaker 2: can hear sometimes if you don't see the people saying

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Speaker 2: the words, you can hear that there is a bit

678
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Speaker 2: of chopping of things. But I do think like the

679
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Speaker 2: people making the show, it's their job to make an

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Speaker 2: entertaining show and to tell a story. That's why we

681
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Speaker 2: watch it. Like their job isn't to make you look good. Sorry,

682
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Speaker 2: I don't know who thinks. So that's what they're going

683
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Speaker 2: on a show for, Like, oh, I'm going to go

684
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Speaker 2: on a show because the show is designed to make

685
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Speaker 2: me famous or something. It's like no, no, no, no, no,

686
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Speaker 2: it's to entertain people. So yeah, there's definitely some shopping

687
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Speaker 2: of work, but I think most of it's usually just

688
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Speaker 2: to make a storyline kind of more cohesive. Maybe they

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Speaker 2: didn't say those words in that order. You can tell

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Speaker 2: by their actions how they feel about someone. So maybe

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Speaker 2: you went on a really long rant like oh, she's okay,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know. Sometimes she does this and it's annoying,

693
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Speaker 2: and they'll just coach and be like she's annoying, yeah,

694
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Speaker 2: because no one has time to fluff around with you like, oh,

695
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Speaker 2: I kind of Sometimes it's okay, and sometimes it's like, okay,

696
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Speaker 2: we've just got to cut to the story. And I

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Speaker 2: think people who get really hung up on oh they're

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Speaker 2: chopping my words and making it look like I said

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Speaker 2: something or not. The people who are watching it and

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Speaker 2: don't like you aren't that fast. I think about the

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Speaker 2: specifics of the words that you use. I mean, unless

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Speaker 2: you know, they edit it like to cause someone a

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Speaker 2: bitch when they did it or something like that. But

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Speaker 2: they're more worried that, you know, there's someone who has

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Speaker 2: good intentions and you're treating them badly. But that's what

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Speaker 2: people are upset about. It doesn't really matter. I think

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Speaker 2: what words were in what order. People get hung up

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Speaker 2: on people treating people badly. And for anyone who's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: they're editing in right way, it's like a kame. Did

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Speaker 2: you do those things? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think I feel bad and I find all these

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Speaker 1: people there this huge waiting and it flew everyone else.

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Speaker 1: I wasted everyone's time. You don't think I feel bad? Now,

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Speaker 1: moving on to another contestant that is not happy with

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Speaker 1: her editor is cass Now. She has come out on

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Speaker 1: her Instagram story to defend the way she's being portrayed,

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Speaker 1: and she has claimed that there are be eclips being

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Speaker 1: edited together to make a sentence. Now, I do think

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Speaker 1: she's got merit in that, but it's kind of hard

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Speaker 1: because a lot of the stuff she has said directly

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Speaker 1: on camera, particularly on her date with Narranga, was extremely

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Speaker 1: rude and offensive. Yeah, it didn't sit well with me

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Speaker 1: watching that date with Narranger. It just seemed a bit

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Speaker 1: like she was kind of fobbing him off. Like I

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Speaker 1: get that if you don't like someone as a friend,

726
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Speaker 1: but she was kind of speaking about him as if

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Speaker 1: he was beneath her and not worth even contemplating dating. Well,

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Speaker 1: it seems like Narranger feels exactly the same way because

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Speaker 1: Batch Funny, which is a hilarious page on Instagram, shared

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Speaker 1: a screenshot of Cass's story and Narranga commented underneath, let's

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Speaker 1: just say she looked good in the edits. He also

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Speaker 1: went on once he was sort of kicked off the show,

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Speaker 1: and he put a story up that said when one

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Speaker 1: particular person comes out saying they got a bad edit,

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Speaker 1: it infuriated me. There were so many more nasty comments

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Speaker 1: to me and other people, one particular moment telling several

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Speaker 1: people they wouldn't take me back to their parents because

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Speaker 1: of where I was from, can't pronounce my name and

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Speaker 1: doesn't know where I'm front from. I accept rejection, it's life,

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Speaker 1: but this I don't. Not once have they ever apologized.

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Speaker 1: You know the one. So he didn't actually name Cass,

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Speaker 1: but it's fairly obvious that's who he was referring to. Well,

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Speaker 1: we are going to be speaking to Narranga this week,

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Speaker 1: so it will be interesting to hear things from his

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Speaker 1: point of view and probe him a little bit more

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Speaker 1: about his post. We also do have casts coming up

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Speaker 1: this week, so that also should be quite enlightening. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think it is always important to give someone

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Speaker 1: the right of reply as well, you know, as we've

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Speaker 1: seen from this show, nothing as it seems, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: we definitely want to hear both sides of the story,

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Speaker 1: so I'm actually looking forward to those interviews. Yeah, definitely,

753
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Speaker 1: and we will finish on quite a funny occurrence happening

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Speaker 1: with the Bachelor cast. Jared Woodgate seems to be in

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Speaker 1: the middle of everything at the moment. Well, Jared's obviously

756
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Speaker 1: hot property now because of his relationship with Kira Maguire,

757
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Speaker 1: and of course he's also friends with Renee because his

758
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: current girlfriend was on The Bachelor with her. I don't

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Speaker 1: actually know what her name is, but yeah, it's quite

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Speaker 1: interesting how immersed he is in the whole Bachelor cast.

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Speaker 1: So basically, Jared has come out and he shared a

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Speaker 1: post on his Instant story last night of screenshots between

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Speaker 1: he and Kira's new boyfriend Matt, who was on Love

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Speaker 1: Island and has basically revealed that Kira and Matt have

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Speaker 1: been using his Netflix account. What was actually cheeky was

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Speaker 1: the fact that Matt email Jared asking for which episode

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Speaker 1: they were up to in a series because they couldn't remember,

768
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Speaker 1: and it's like, what, why would you do that? He

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Speaker 1: was taking the pizza. He was clearly taking the piece

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Speaker 1: and trying to get a right out of Jared, and

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Speaker 1: I assume it's because Jared was on a podcast recently

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Speaker 1: dishing all the dirt on Kira, so I'm assuming he's

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Speaker 1: enemy number one in Kira's eyes.

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Speaker 2: What do you and.

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Speaker 1: Matt's just being the gentleman trying to stick up for

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Speaker 1: Kurra it zeems just a note. We are recording this

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Speaker 1: podcast on Monday afternoons, so this is prior to tonight's episode,

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Speaker 1: so I'm sure there'll be heaps more to chat about

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Speaker 1: that we haven't actually covered. Off. Kaylie Jenner to the foyer.

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Speaker 1: I have a little surprise for you. Let's get into

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Speaker 1: awkward turtle now, who would like to share? Well, unfortunately

782
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Speaker 1: this actually involves me this time, not Sophie. So basically,

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Speaker 1: we really wanted to bring you a bunch of interviews

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Speaker 1: from Bachelor and Paradise contestants because we thought it would

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Speaker 1: be really interesting to hear what they have to say.

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Speaker 1: And fortunately, I was doing this quite late at night

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Speaker 1: after my first week back at work and getting back

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Speaker 1: into that schedule, so I was quite tired, and I

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Speaker 1: was kind of copying and pasting and changing up the

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Speaker 1: messages a little bit. So I emailed a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of them, as I said, and then I got message

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Speaker 1: back from Glenn, who was really lovely, but he was

793
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Speaker 1: confused because I'd called him Jess and he said, gee,

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Speaker 1: that's a bit awkward. I'm used to not being called

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Speaker 1: the right name, but Jess is a bit different. Now

796
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Speaker 1: we talk about Amateur Hour hate, but we will remember

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Speaker 1: that in one of the first couple of episodes, Alisha

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Speaker 1: called Glenn by the wrong name, so it's quite fitting

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Speaker 1: that he keeps being called What I love about Glenn

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Speaker 1: is the fact that he's actually got Greg Smith written

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Speaker 1: on his profile now because that's what Alisha called him,

802
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Speaker 1: so he obviously is quite funny. And also he's a twin,

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Speaker 1: so I'm assuming he gets called the wrong name quite

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00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: a bit because he looks identical to his brother. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I felt terrible about it. And I profusely apologized and

806
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: he was so lovely about it, and we are hopefully

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Speaker 1: talking to him once filming once the show's finished. ADS

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Speaker 1: greg Or jess or Glenn Glenn, don't confuse me. Imagine

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Speaker 1: if we call him the wrong name on the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm really hoping that he and Alisha are still together

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Speaker 1: because they are just so cute on the show. I

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Speaker 1: think they would be that they will be the success

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Speaker 1: story of the show, hopefully if there is one. I

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Speaker 1: think that's all we have time for today. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us again. If you have enjoyed

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Speaker 1: today's episode, it would be amazing if you could share

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Speaker 1: Outspoken the podcast community. Also, make sure you look out

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Speaker 1: into your Apple podcast feed or wherever you're listening from

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