1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: Quest. 2 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome friends to the Christian O'Connell show podcast. 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Now, over the weekend, you had a really big weekend. 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Your son turned two, and I can't believe how quickly 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: it's gone. I remember when it was a big thing 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: when you surprise us all on the show that you 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: guys your wife was expecting your first child. Doesn't fail 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: that long ago, like long ago at all, and then 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: it must it goes Honestly, now it's a dad or 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: two with a seventeen or nineteen year old, it goes 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: so quickly. But in the first year it fails. When 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: everyone's saying it's going to go very quickly, it doesn't 13 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: go galacial. It's so slow. 14 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: But now every couple of weeks, sometimes every second day, 15 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: he's showing you something new that he's learned, and you 16 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: can't believe how quickly it's going. 17 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I used to find that you'd go to work 18 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: when they were asleep and you'd come back from doing 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: the breakfast show and just in like twelve hours, there's 20 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: something different about them. 21 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: Can I share with you something beat great bit of 22 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: wisdom that was passed on to me by a friend 23 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: over the weekend. He's got daughters are nine and seven. 24 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: He told me about this thing he heard about called 25 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: the second space, where if you think of work or 26 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 2: wherever you are in the day is the first space, 27 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: and coming home is the third space. The intention you 28 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: set in the second space is how you show up 29 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: at home. So for most people would be on the car, 30 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: in the car journey, right on the way home. And 31 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: he said, I always want to show up in that 32 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: third space in the best way. Come through the door, 33 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: mirror my kid's happiness to see me be the husband 34 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: to my wife that I said I would always be. 35 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: And I don't want to bring in the annoyances of 36 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: the day, like if I was irritated at work, I 37 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 2: don't want to bring that through the door, or if 38 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: something's been bugging me, I don't want to burden my 39 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: family with that. And I've been thinking about that since 40 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: he told me about it, and I love it, and 41 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: I really tried to embody it. I was away in 42 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: the Gold Coast this weekend, so as I got through 43 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: the door on Sunday, tired from the flight, but on 44 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: the inn the car on the way home, I was thinking, 45 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: you know what, I want to burst through this door. 46 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: I want to give that energy to Gordy. I want 47 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: to see that reflected back in his face. I want 48 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: to give that to Bianca. And I don't know. It's 49 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: just something that really valuable that I took away with 50 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: me from what my friend said. And it's an intention 51 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: that I'm trying to set every day when I see him, 52 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: whether he's coming home from daycare, I'm coming home from work. 53 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: And the first instance of coming through the door and 54 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: the intention you set and the moment that you're making 55 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: with them. 56 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: How can I use that today when I see my 57 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: seventeen year old daughter when she comes home from school. 58 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: I think that's a lovely thing because so much a 59 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 1: parent and advice in it. It's all around the doing, 60 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: the tactics, and that you actually forget most important by 61 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: is how do you want to be? Yes, And there's 62 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: a choice how you want to be before you are 63 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: about the doing. They pick up more from just how 64 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: you are. Your energy way more important than because you 65 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: can be spending time with them. But if you're distracted 66 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: or angry about some conversation happen to work and you're 67 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: still fantasizing if you have said that or that would 68 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: have happened, they pick up on. 69 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 2: That's this conversation started because we were talking about how 70 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: much our kids are just always perceptive of us and 71 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: how much they pick up that we're on the phone 72 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 2: a lot because you just got to reply reply in 73 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: an email and that's what they've seen all the time. 74 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: Is yeah, that you're really paying attention to the phone 75 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: and not to them. So on the car on the 76 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: way home today, before you get home, if you have 77 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 2: kids or whoever you spend your time with at home, 78 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: have a think in the car, in that second space, 79 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: how you want to show up at home and have 80 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: that think of what you want your intent to be 81 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: and come through the door like that. 82 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: That is beautiful, mate. As much as you know the one, 83 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: it's the most important job in the world to be 84 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: someone's parent. It is. It's as the most choice one 85 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: as well, But it's a journey of you learning as 86 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: much as you teach that thing. I've learned my biggest 87 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: learning points in life have all come through being a dad. 88 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I thought it was all in 89 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: the teaching how you meant to show the medicine. You 90 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: learn way more about life yourself, the areas where you 91 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: need to unlearn and let go as well. The biggest 92 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: changes I've seen since knowing you eight or nine years 93 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: have been since you've been a dad. 94 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: They are little yodas. Yeah, teach you so much. 95 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: They're the biggest mayors you ever find. I have something 96 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: for you. So yesterday I went back and I listened 97 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: again to that amazing poem you wrote when You're about 98 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: to become a dad. Yeah, it's a beautiful poem Jack 99 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: wrote right on the It was a couple of days 100 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: before you left the show to go on paternity leave 101 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: about what you wanted to become becoming a dad, and 102 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: I wanted you to have a listen back to it. 103 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: We've also put some of the lovely stories that you've 104 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: shared on the show because one of the many great 105 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: things about doing what we do is this is a 106 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: kind of diary or a journal at times that we 107 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: speak out loud. Sometimes when you hear it, Bauck, you cringe, 108 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: but other times you hear what you were going through 109 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: at the time. So we put some of the stories 110 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: that you've shared the last two years, Jackiet Boy, and 111 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: you've really have shown up being a dad, and I 112 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: look forward to seeing how the journey goes as you 113 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: walk along your side, walk along young Gordy's side over 114 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: the next couple years. 115 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: Mate. 116 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: But having listened to this, I think you really I 117 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: think you've really done what you set out to do. 118 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: It's been amazing to see anyway, having listened to this. 119 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: It's my first time being a dad, it's your first 120 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: time being alive. You can ride up on my shoulders. 121 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: I can see the world through your eyes. My son 122 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: walked for the first time, catching bugs, building sand castles, 123 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: jumping in puddles and skipping stones. Know that from now 124 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: until forever, you'll never be alone. You didn't prepare me 125 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: for what it would be like to drop him off 126 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: at daycare for the first time. 127 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: It was so hard. 128 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: I just can't tell you how hard wrenching it is. 129 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 2: Make jokes, make music, make mischief, live your life with joy. 130 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: I think this could be his first word. What's this? Apple? Apple? 131 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: Harbor big dreams for your future, but take time to 132 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: be a boy. We had an impromptu jam session after 133 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: dinner for about half an hour. We just listened to 134 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: the whole album and jammed for every song. I will 135 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: honestly cherish these moments. They're so special. Start things before 136 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: you feel ready. Jump before you see the landing, life 137 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: will open doors for those already standing. Mm Ha's got 138 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: my twenty month old son Gordon with her this morning. 139 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: She just sent us this text. We're on our way 140 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: to the museum and Jack's voice just came on the radio. 141 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: Gordy said, Dad, without any prompting, So cute. 142 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: How did that make you feel? 143 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: It's actually surprised me how much they caught me off. God, 144 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: my chest is filled with love. You'll take from books 145 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 2: and art and music and people, anything that strikes a note. 146 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: Take the parts you like of me, leave the ones 147 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: you don't. This year for me, being a dad has 148 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: really clicked. Him Being the number one priority doesn't feel 149 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: like something I have to push against or force. It 150 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: just is, and I'm so thankful for that. Just the 151 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: joy and the love that he brings to us is 152 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: all though I need. And with an open heart and 153 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: a curious mind, soak up everything you can. Oh my God. 154 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: If I could have told myself two years ago that 155 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: my most anticipated concert of the year would be The 156 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: Wiggles at Rod Laver Arena, I wouldn't have believed you. 157 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 2: And even if I don't watch a minute on stage, 158 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: and I just spent the whole time looking at him 159 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: and seeing his reaction. Find your own definition of what 160 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 2: it means to be a man. Congratulations mate, Thank you, mate, 161 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: thank you. This is the Christian o'commel Show podcast