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Speaker 1: Great per flick with Ben Good morning, bad, Good morning guys. Look,

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Speaker 1: I hate to bring the mood down, but we need

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Speaker 1: to talk about we need to talk about. It's okay

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Speaker 1: because this looks need to talk about. We need to

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Speaker 1: talk about World War two, Agazi Nazis. Yeah. So the

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Speaker 1: new Russell Crowe movie. This is one of his best

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Speaker 1: performances in a long time. Rusty is in career best

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Speaker 1: form here. Interesting kind of parallel to his first which

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Speaker 1: was also Yeah, where he played Nazi. Now he's playing

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Speaker 1: an actual Nazi. I guest feeling his character Hando from Robostomp,

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Speaker 1: but would have been very impressed with what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: That's disturbing. Yeah. So. So it's based on the true

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Speaker 1: story of the Nuremberg Trials, which happened after World War Two.

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Speaker 1: They Allies had captured the Nazi high command and they

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Speaker 1: didn't really know what to do with them. Should we

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Speaker 1: just execute them for their war crimes? And an American

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Speaker 1: Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Robert Jackson, who in

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Speaker 1: the movie is played by the great Michael Shannon, he

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Speaker 1: believed that we can't just execute these guys will make

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Speaker 1: the martyrs. Instead, we need to put them in front

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Speaker 1: of a courtroom and use the law, hold them accountable,

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Speaker 1: make them explain themselves, and get justice that way, and

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Speaker 1: we'll make sure this never happens again. But the problem

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Speaker 1: was this had never been done before. There'd never been

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Speaker 1: this sort of international tribunal. There was no precedent in law,

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Speaker 1: no case law that they could really base their trial on.

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Speaker 1: So they had to set everything up from scratch. That

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Speaker 1: was kind of his role. And then in terms of

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Speaker 1: the Nazis themselves, you've got Russell Crowe, who was Herman Goring,

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Speaker 1: the reich Marshal Hitler's second command after Adolf Hitler committed

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Speaker 1: suicide just before the end of the war. Herman Goring

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Speaker 1: was he was the guy, he was the top guy.

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Speaker 1: He was in charge, and he surrendered to American troops

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Speaker 1: in Austria and basically willingly kind of, you know, gave

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Speaker 1: himself up to this process. He believed that he was

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Speaker 1: innocent of war crimes. His assertion was that he did

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Speaker 1: so many of them. He said, look, I was in

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Speaker 1: charge of the Luftwaffa, the Air Force. I didn't have

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Speaker 1: anything to do with the concentration camps. You know, that

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Speaker 1: was somebody else. That was him. La he was a

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Speaker 1: bad dude, nothing to do with me. And but the

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Speaker 1: Allies were worried that the Nazis were the high command,

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Speaker 1: were all going to commit suicide like Hitler. So they

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Speaker 1: brought in a psychiatrist, and this is a true story.

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Speaker 1: They brought in a psychiatrist from the army who in

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Speaker 1: the movies played by Rami Malik from Bohemian Rhapsody and

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Speaker 1: I Robot, and his job was to get inside the

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Speaker 1: heads of these high ranking Nazi officials, make sure they

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Speaker 1: didn't commit suicide if they looked like they were going,

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Speaker 1: to alert, alert the military in charge of their imprisonment,

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Speaker 1: and also kind of, you know, maybe get a sense

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Speaker 1: that on to you know, the American lawyers to to

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Speaker 1: kind of, you know, tip the scales of justice in

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Speaker 1: the right direction kind of thing. And so Rami Malick

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Speaker 1: strikes up this in the end, it really becomes a

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Speaker 1: friendship with Herman Goring and watching Russell Crowe and Rami

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Speaker 1: kind of do these scenes, it really reminds me a

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Speaker 1: lot of Jodie Foster and Anthony Hopkins in Silence of

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Speaker 1: the Lambs, very very similar and according to all historical

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Speaker 1: reports Herman Goring was. He was very charming, a super intelligent,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he was a family man and all

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Speaker 1: of these kind of things. And Russell does a good

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Speaker 1: job of I kind of, I guess, showing all of

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Speaker 1: those contrasts, also very vague, ego drivenlative, all of those

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Speaker 1: things as well, and so it kind of, you know,

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Speaker 1: it goes through the process of setting up this trial,

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Speaker 1: the meetings that the psychiatrist had with him, because his

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Speaker 1: goal was to prove that there was something about the

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Speaker 1: Germans that made them different, something that made them evil,

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Speaker 1: and he was going to write a book about it,

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Speaker 1: and then we would know what to look out for

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Speaker 1: in the future. But of course, you know, in the

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Speaker 1: end he comes to the conclusion that really nothing made

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Speaker 1: them different. They were the same as everybody else. This

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Speaker 1: is just what happens if you don't stand up to

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Speaker 1: people doing evil things, which is where I guess the

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Speaker 1: parallels come to some of the things that we're seeing

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Speaker 1: in the world today, and the film is not very

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Speaker 1: subtle in drawing those parallels. And then there's there's a

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Speaker 1: there's a there's a lot of great cameos in this

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Speaker 1: John Slattery is in this film A Leo Woodle from

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Speaker 1: the most recent Bridget Jones is amazing as kind of

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Speaker 1: an American soldier who's a translator. He probably steals the show.

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Speaker 1: But Russell's great. Like this movie. You know, it just

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Speaker 1: would not be what it is if it wasn't for

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Speaker 1: Russell's performance before all right, well, don't play me off.

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Speaker 1: Now we don't take sizes. Everyone gets played off. How

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Speaker 1: many did it come out in time for awards seasons?

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Speaker 1: Are you giving it? Well, I'm going to give it.

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Speaker 1: It's not perfect, but I think Russell it really does

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Speaker 1: a great job. I'm going to give it three and

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Speaker 1: a half. Three and a half. And did it come

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Speaker 1: out in time for award season? I don't think it

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Speaker 1: has no, No, I don't think so. But it's I

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Speaker 1: think no. I think I think it will qualifying. I

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Speaker 1: think it will qualifying. But we'll see, we'll see. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing it because I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be very interesting, very interesting. A bit long, that's the

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Speaker 1: problem with it. We will give me thirty minutes shorter. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you,