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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me.

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Speaker 2: Lola Berry, author, nutritionist, and yoga teacher, join me as

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Speaker 2: we get to know these guests and learn about how

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Speaker 2: their failures have ultimately shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly

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Speaker 2: Failing with Lola Berry.

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Speaker 1: Get a, it's Lola Berry here.

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Speaker 2: This next guest is a yoga mentor of mine. Her

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Speaker 2: name is Nikki Henley. She's a different yoga teacher to

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Speaker 2: what you might be used to. She kind of blends

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Speaker 2: together yogs that's my word for yoga, dance and music.

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Speaker 2: And don't worry, you don't have to bust out into dance.

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Speaker 2: I mean you can when you do some of her classes,

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Speaker 2: but she's just all about really freeing the mind and

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Speaker 2: getting back to this idea and sense of self love,

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Speaker 2: which I think we can all kind of learn from.

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Speaker 2: And if you've never tried yokes before, I'm hoping this

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Speaker 2: podcast might inspire you to whip out the old yoga

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Speaker 2: mat and give it a crack. Okay, I am so

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Speaker 2: excited because this guest name's Nicki Hanley. By the way,

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Speaker 2: lists just like get the name out there because I

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Speaker 2: usually rap it at the start and go.

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Speaker 1: I really like them.

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Speaker 2: I've got a crush on them, which is what happens

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Speaker 2: every time with the podcast. I'm like, I get so

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Speaker 2: excited when I research and the same has happened for you,

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Speaker 2: And because you're mentoring me, I feel like I'm extra connected.

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Speaker 2: So NICKI is a I would say, seen a yoga

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Speaker 2: teacher in the Melbourne scene. Sure, passionate, driven, there's always

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Speaker 2: in your classes, there's always a sense of all like

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Speaker 2: lightness and fun as well.

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Speaker 1: With music, I would say definitely.

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Speaker 2: And then you've got disco yoga, which I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to unpack all of it, but as far as Melbourne

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Speaker 2: yoga see goes, i'd say, your.

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Speaker 1: Pick of the cream of there, krem of the crop.

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Speaker 1: What's the saying something like that, But I'm welcome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's be a little bit more humble than that.

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Speaker 2: Oh mate, I'll be your hype girl. So okay, I

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Speaker 2: want to get into the yoga. I am someone that

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Speaker 2: loves your yoga classes, so I do want to unpack

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Speaker 2: the yoga stuff, but I kind of want to know about,

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Speaker 2: like how you found yoga, what was happening before the yogs,

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Speaker 2: because most yogi's there's a like they say, yoga finds you,

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Speaker 2: and there's a reason, quite a deep spiritual reason or

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Speaker 1: What's yeah, what led you to yoga?

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Speaker 4: So when I first probably did a yoga class, I

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Speaker 4: was not a yoga at all. I was living in

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Speaker 4: nightclubs and a friend of mine was into yoga and

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Speaker 4: she said, come and do a class with me. And

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Speaker 4: I did a class with this great teacher, Andrew Morneus,

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Speaker 4: and it was amazing and I was like, Wow, this

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Speaker 4: with him, So that was it. I was a dancer,

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Speaker 4: so I danced in nightclubs, so I already had a

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Speaker 4: the estraand Yoga Academy and I looked over and there

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Speaker 3: And I really wasn't that connected to yoga at that.

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Speaker 4: Point, but I just looked at it and I dialed

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Speaker 4: that you would be able to help me pay for

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Speaker 4: this course so I can become a yoga teacher, because

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Speaker 1: So you hadn't you just done that one class.

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Speaker 4: A couple a handful of classes, but then dive straight in,

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Speaker 4: it was two weeks after I graduated they asked me

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Speaker 2: Not to make you, I know you said, like, stay humble,

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Speaker 4: Training, yeah, yeah, your thing is teacher, right, And I

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Speaker 4: I was very vocal. I would always say something, And

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Speaker 4: I think that that kind of shows a leader's kind

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Speaker 2: So if you were comfortable, because that's probably in my

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Speaker 1: But then there were the speakers.

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Speaker 4: We balance each other out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've got to have the fire like it's

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Speaker 2: that there's I was reading about disco yoga and which

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Speaker 2: is one of your baby's jog that you equally talk about.

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Speaker 2: But that's been over the last six years, but I've

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Speaker 1: But you also did some Kilde Festival this year.

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Speaker 1: Now is that two mazillion people?

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Speaker 1: How many people go to?

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Speaker 4: This year in feb was thirteen hundred people signed up.

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Speaker 4: So it just keeps improving. Yeah, they've put me onto

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Speaker 4: the main stage, which is really nice because sounds system

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Speaker 2: And your makeup and hair in the photos, can I

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Speaker 2: say you had these epic like Viking braids, Yeah, fairy

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Speaker 4: My sister's my hairdresser, and you know, my sister is

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Speaker 4: So you know, I probably wouldn't be the person that

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Speaker 1: And you've just reminded me when you mentioned your sister.

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Speaker 2: So I think those life lessons like that's in that

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Speaker 1: I know you're onto bigger and you were even even

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Speaker 4: The more people there are, the better I am at it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why, energy or more than likely I

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Speaker 4: that was the last stuff I did before I retired

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Speaker 4: So around thirty my thirties, I really started questioning who

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Speaker 3: Having to process through that.

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Speaker 3: Has nothing to do with me.

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Speaker 4: I'm just a vehicle, a facilitator that offers something and

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Speaker 2: I mean, that is so beautiful of you to say,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I get something more from your classes

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Speaker 4: It's totally my total vibe of teaching yoga exactly.

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Speaker 4: my god, this is amazing. There's so much stuff here.

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Speaker 3: So there's no there's no way that those people can

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Speaker 4: So the same for say a yoga teacher, if they

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Speaker 2: I think it shows because ultimately humans, I think we

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Speaker 2: That's the beautiful match in the background for your little

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Speaker 2: dire wolf.

442
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: I tell people if Thrones fan, she's a maremma, she's gorgeo.

443
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 4: It's none a breed name Italian sheep dog.

444
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 1: She looks like a wolf though, beautiful, pretty special.

445
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: She's walking around like a shark right now.

446
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 1: She's gorgeous.

447
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 2: I agree, So I like what you've just said about

448
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 2: that kind of like, yeah, if you're a young if

449
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 2: you're so even for me though all part of my

450
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: job is Instagram and social media. Everyone's everyone's totally everybody's.

451
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: But I have a theory and a few a few

452
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 2: of my mates that we would call our like just

453
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 2: like we shoot the shit.

454
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: What you see is what you get.

455
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 2: And they're like, how's that person got mozillion followers? I'm like,

456
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: fuck mate, they probably bought them and they're fake, so

457
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 2: don't worry. It's going to like and I think, and

458
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: it's not a calmic necessarily thing, but with time, the

459
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: truth come.

460
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: Always going to like settles itself out. I believe.

461
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, the amount of times I've said those words to

462
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 4: people that I know what I don't understand why have

463
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 4: they got so many followers? I've had to literally process

464
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 4: this and detach myself from it. And I'm still working

465
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 4: through it, but I've had to let it go because

466
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 4: all it does is create suffering and I feel anxious

467
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 4: from it, and I feel it creates worry, and I'm

468
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 4: not I'm not that kind of person. So I see

469
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 4: what it's doing to me, and I go, Okay, no,

470
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 4: you have to you have to stop looking at it. Yeah,

471
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 4: you have to stop comparing yourself and stay on point,

472
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 4: stay on point with who you are, and just focus

473
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 4: on what you're doing. And it's for me, it's much

474
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 4: more about how I connect with people on the ground

475
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 4: rather than through things like that, because I think that,

476
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 4: because I know the truth about it, that I'm not

477
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 4: ever going to be that person. So I can't actually

478
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 4: sell myself to it, do you know what I mean? Yeah,

479
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 4: I can't actually do it. So you're the real deal.

480
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 4: So I have to detach otherwise it's going to eat

481
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 4: away at me and it's going to be a waste

482
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 4: of my time.

483
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: Do you know if somebody said to me, describe Niki

484
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: in a sentence, I'd be like, she stays in a lane.

485
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: Like as far as you're like the what you're almost.

486
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: Your value to how you work, You've always got something

487
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 2: you're so passionate about and you're working on and you'll

488
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 2: share it. If someone goes, what are you doing at

489
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: the moment, you'll be like, I'm doing this thing. It's

490
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: fucking hard and this is what's happening. Like you're very open,

491
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: but you're always working on this, like you've always got

492
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 2: a little like fire and something. But you always just

493
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: stay in your lane like you're just can' like you don't.

494
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: I've never seen you get caught up in anything.

495
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: Like you're very you're your own spirit and I love that.

496
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: It's because you didn't know me when I was on drugs.

497
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: So it's po and that was my as you say that,

498
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: do you want to share anything more than I feel

499
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 1: like that.

500
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, it's fine.

501
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 4: I just feel like if you know me back then,

502
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 4: I was all drama and there was so much stuff

503
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: going on and I was always crying. I was like

504
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 4: this and that and whatever, and if I was going

505
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 4: up and down, up and down all the time, and

506
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 4: you can't be that, you can't be steady in amongst that.

507
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 3: It's not possible.

508
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: Yes, and you're exactly right, But what I was, what

509
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: you've led me to is when so fifteen years ago

510
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: you became sober. Was there kind of like a moment

511
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 2: or was it a chot Would you distinctively remember that choice?

512
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 3: Yep, totally.

513
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 4: I was in the kitchen of the apartment that I

514
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 4: was living at and I had broken down. Basically. My

515
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 4: sister had come over and she was very compassionate with me,

516
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 4: and I was just I said, I'm sick of crying.

517
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 4: I'm sick of feeling like this. I don't want to

518
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 4: feel this way anymore. I'm done. I'm sick of losing

519
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 4: my mind. I have to do something. And like I said,

520
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 4: she basically said, you.

521
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: Have to meditate. Oh, so, your sister, you have to meditate.

522
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 4: This is the only way that you're going to be

523
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 4: able to save yourself. So, and that's what happened.

524
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 2: And if you didn't save yourself. And if that didn't happen, God,

525
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: what do you think.

526
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 3: It would have happened?

527
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 4: It would not be good. I would not be anything

528
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 4: like I am right now.

529
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: There is no way. I don't know what would have happened.

530
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 4: Wow, it could have been really bad. Like I smoked

531
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 4: marijuana every day for fifteen years just to.

532
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: Like mallow out and chill out before you went because

533
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: I was addicted.

534
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, like if I didn't have it, I was.

535
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: A mess and would you drink every day?

536
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: Most days?

537
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: It's thank you so much for sharing this because I

538
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: actually think that all of us in some way self medicate. Yeah,

539
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: like drugs, alcohol, sex, food, of course, something like.

540
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 3: The nature of a human being is to be addicted

541
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 3: to something.

542
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: Something's not right. I need to I need to. I

543
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: don't want to feel that pain. So I'm going to

544
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: write in my thing, yeah, rather than sit in the shit.

545
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

546
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: And as we were good made of mine last night,

547
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 2: she's we're both like, we're both like, whoa, we're growing

548
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: heaps at the moment, I said, do you know what,

549
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 2: though I've been sitting in this growth for a while,

550
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm wrapped with the growth. I'm also ready

551
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: to step out of the growth and just spread my wings.

552
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: And not worrying.

553
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: I think there are these moments in your life where

554
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I've got that lesson now, we don't

555
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: need to repeat.

556
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 4: Yes that at some point you have to get to

557
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 4: that point. Yeah, and I did. I've done that many

558
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: times now. I mean there's still things that are showing

559
00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 4: up that I go okay, you know, like jealousy, you know, frustration,

560
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 4: things like that. They still show up in different forms,

561
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 4: and I'm like, hmm, there's that voice again.

562
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so my speaking of you kind of like sharing

563
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: that things still show up. So as I was having

564
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 2: little insta stalk of you, I'm like, shit, when does

565
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: this girl stop?

566
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: You teach? So much like if you'll be like, come

567
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: join me my.

568
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 2: Chilled fashion, release Vinasa all in tonight, like release it.

569
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: And I'm like when does she stop? And I like,

570
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 2: I feel like you're a helper and a healer, so

571
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: a part of you would love like you mentor me.

572
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

573
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: So Nikki and I will literally meet up once every

574
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. I'll be like, this is what I'm

575
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: struggling with teaching yoga, and You'll be like have you

576
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: thought about this?

577
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: This and this and this, and then like how about

578
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: you throwing some tiger curls? And I can we really

579
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: work on.

580
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: Sequencing because I'm not confident on sequencing. And my teaching

581
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: has changed dramatically because it has.

582
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: I love it now.

583
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 4: Yea.

584
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: I used to dread teaching right.

585
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 4: Well, It's just it was probably just a little voice

586
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 4: of fear that was like I'm not good enough or whatever,

587
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 4: even though you're brilliant.

588
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: It was a lack of totally.

589
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: And also when you come from that place, you stick

590
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: yourself in a comfort zone where you'll be okay. Yeah,

591
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 4: And you're not an okay kind of girl. You're an

592
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: excealing kind of girl. Like I want to do you know,

593
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: you want to grow?

594
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: You want to remember you offered to mentor me quite

595
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: a while ago and you said when you're ready, Like,

596
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm ready to mentor you because you said you're a

597
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: good You're a really good yoga teaches.

598
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: But I remember you saying that you can be and

599
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: then you said, we've also got to eat deeper in

600
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: your legs and I was.

601
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: Like, shits.

602
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: Every time practice, I was like, get deeper on your

603
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: legs all over. And now I now I like, really

604
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: focus on legs, especially if I'm being one of Nikki's classes.

605
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: But I digressed a little bit there. What I want

606
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: to know is like, obviously, like the active yoga is

607
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 2: a service of helping others and helping to facilitate healing

608
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: and spiritual growth, and you are brilliant at that, But

609
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: do you think that you like overgive yourself.

610
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: I have a lot of energy, you do. Actually, I was.

611
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 4: More energy than I ever had when I took drugs

612
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: and alcohol, way like triple the amount of energy that

613
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: I had.

614
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: Like I don't.

615
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 4: I rarely feel tired, Like yeah, I rarely feel sick

616
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 4: or anything. Like I don't struggle, like I have an abundance.

617
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 4: Like I'm up at five every morning and teaching at six,

618
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 4: and then you know, I don't get to bed till ten,

619
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 4: ten thirty, and because I teach the six o'clock class

620
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 4: as well at night, and then by the time I

621
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 4: get home and have some dinner and then wind down,

622
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 4: it's that and then I'm back up again the next day.

623
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 4: I've really worked out my system now though, like I've

624
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 4: worked out where I teach, so because I have to

625
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: share that when I first started teaching, I had because

626
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 4: I'm a little OCD, little Craig.

627
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: Gray like like a type personality.

628
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I would never teach the same class twice ever, right,

629
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 4: oh wow. Ever, so I have books of full of

630
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 4: classes over there, full full full like so never and

631
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 4: I taught up to eighteen twenty classes a week at

632
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 4: the beginning. Eventually, like I started off small amounts, and

633
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 4: then it grew, and then I just did a lot.

634
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 4: So can you imagine going home and writing at class

635
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 4: every night and then teaching a different class the next day.

636
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 4: And I did that all the time because I never

637
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 4: wanted anybody to feel like they had to do the

638
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 4: same thing twice, because for me, I got bored, Like

639
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 4: if if someone had the same class all week, I'd

640
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,239
Speaker 4: be like, you're kidding me, Really I have to do

641
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 4: that again? Okay, yeah, okay, So that's me personally, Like

642
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 4: I like to be led somewhere where I'm not necessarily

643
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 4: preempting anything.

644
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: I don't know where you want me to go.

645
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 4: I want you to goe me, and I just want

646
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 4: to let go and I want to feel like I'm

647
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 4: moving with the breath and the cue and that's it, yeah,

648
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: you know, and so I can become one with that.

649
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 4: I guess it's the dancer in me that I wanted

650
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 4: to move in that way, you know.

651
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: And so yeah, I just so you don't but you

652
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: don't feel like you're oat because you're saying you've got

653
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: so much energy, like you don't feel like because I

654
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: was like, I wondered if you ever like burns.

655
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: Out it's pretty rare.

656
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: So would you attribute that to like you're just saying

657
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: you're like twenty eight years vegetarian.

658
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: Yes, attribute that to diet and lifestyle.

659
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: Totally, totally. I rarely have sugar, and I mean.

660
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 4: I have little I have moments where I'll have little,

661
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 4: you know, spurts of allowing it to happen, and then

662
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 4: I'll cut it out again and whatever.

663
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: But you know, I.

664
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 4: Don't think it even is that. I think that it's

665
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 4: the type, your body type, or your or your karmic journey,

666
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 4: whatever it is, whatever you want to call it. I

667
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 4: don't see myself. I said it to my sister the

668
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 4: other day. I don't see myself dying unless my death

669
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 4: date is earlier than one hundred. I don't see myself

670
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 4: dying before a hundred. Right, Because I had that, I

671
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: feel the energy, the spark of life in me is big, right.

672
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: And that was the thing when I had the breakdown.

673
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 4: I realized I knew that deep down inside there was

674
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 4: something more to me than what I was giving the world.

675
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 4: And I was like, because even when I was on drugs,

676
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 4: I was helping people, ie that the bar, counseling people

677
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 4: and you know, like giving advice and trying to and

678
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: always been creative and all those sort of things. But

679
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: I knew that that lifestyle was actually hindering my potential

680
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 4: and that.

681
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: O Tital stopped it. Oh god, you So there's one thing.

682
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: It's one thing to be able to go okay, I

683
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: can see this lifestyle was fucking me up and taking

684
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: me further away from where I want to be. It's

685
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: another thing to have the self disaslen to stick to

686
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 2: that because we all want what we know we can't have.

687
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 4: So so I have this thing that when I was eighteen,

688
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 4: I was dancing in Korea and I was dancing in Yeah,

689
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: I was dancing in john for six months and they ate.

690
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: Dog there, right.

691
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: So I went to this market and I was walking

692
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 4: down this market and there was pigs heads to dogheads,

693
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 4: all sorts of stuff in this market and freaked me

694
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 4: right out.

695
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: I was like, so, but what.

696
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 4: Happened was I went back to my hotel and I

697
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 4: was like, who am I to judge like someone else's

698
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 4: culture and lifestyle and whatever and blah blah blah, and

699
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 4: who am I to pick? Which animal am I okay

700
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 4: with eating? And which one I'm not okay with eating?

701
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 4: So from that moment, I like a switch went off.

702
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 4: I went, that's it.

703
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: I'm not eating meat anymore.

704
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 4: So that was eighteen years old, and I knew that

705
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 4: I had that ability to make a switch go like

706
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 4: that once i'd made the full decision, right. So I

707
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 4: knew that I'd done that for myself already, and nothing,

708
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 4: no one could convince me in any way, shape or

709
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: form that meat is a food for me ever again

710
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 4: in my life, right, no.

711
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: Matter how sig I was or whatever.

712
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 4: You know, so many times I've been to a Chinese

713
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 4: doctor and they're like, you need to eat meat. I'm like,

714
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 4: you need to get another idea in your head because

715
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 4: that's not happening.

716
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: But to me, this shows me a sense of self

717
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: confidence to go.

718
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: That's what I mean.

719
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 4: I am a confident exactly who you are, your value system.

720
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: Whereas I will I'll be like having at my boyfriend's

721
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: house and his parents are Italian and they're like, oh,

722
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: we've made this pasta and I can't eat gluten, and

723
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: Matt's like, you can't, you can't have that.

724
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, just a little bit.

725
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: I feel really guilty, okay, And it's all out of

726
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: guilt for mine. But I notice like, and I love

727
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: it when I see people that are just like I

728
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 2: think the most successful souls are so sold solid within

729
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: themselves and you're one of them. That's just like, well,

730
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: this is who I am. You can still do you,

731
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: That's totally fine, but I'm going to do me and

732
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: this is what serves me well.

733
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 4: I think that down to the I'm not overly a

734
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 4: people pleaser. I don't think that's one of my personality traits.

735
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 4: You know. I love to help people and serve people,

736
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 4: but I'm not in And I think that comes back

737
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: to the Instagram thing. I'm not going to do things

738
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 4: like have hardly any clothes on and do photo shoots

739
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 4: of me and my body and stuff and and that

740
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 4: You're never going to see that on my Instagram, do

741
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? So, and it seems to

742
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 4: be a popular thing that makes people popular in the

743
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 4: yoga industry. Like if you're doing us AER that's really

744
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 4: advanced and have hardly any clothes on boom, You've got

745
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 4: about twenty thousand follow up twenty you know.

746
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: Like I think, I know there's that movement that I

747
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: think some people think is aspirational, but it's look to

748
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 2: be honest, it doesn't make me feel very good about

749
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 2: it because I'm like, ah, I.

750
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: Can't do that. I don't look like that.

751
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 4: I don't know why it makes it so popular.

752
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: But it sells. It does a lot of yoga pants,

753
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure.

754
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 2: And you know it's to me, it's fascinating because on

755
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: one on one side, there's like this beauty to yoga,

756
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: and there's this beauty in the art.

757
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 4: Of course, Don't get me wrong, I'm in awe of

758
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 4: what I see. You know, like Dylan weren't I say,

759
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 4: for example, you look at his stuff and you're like,

760
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 4: how is that physically possible?

761
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 3: What you're doing right now?

762
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: Like like Olympic athletes all pretty much totally.

763
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 4: It's inspiring, it is, and I see the purpose of that,

764
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 4: I really do.

765
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 3: But it's just not me, not going to sell myself

766
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 3: in that way.

767
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: And I think when values placed upon it in the

768
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: wrong kind of not context, but like I think, yeah,

769
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: it's it's a slippery slope, like it is.

770
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: And I think if you're you've got.

771
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: To be really, really really clear in the way you

772
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 2: were just describing about your chore. I think the same

773
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 2: goes with anything on socials. My only rule with social

774
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: media is just be fucking real. Yeah, totally, And that's

775
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: how I am. And I stuff to do work gigs

776
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: that involve my social media, but I'll always I've learned,

777
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 2: I'll say no, I get signed off on final type yeah,

778
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: because I would not use that word or you know,

779
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 2: And sometimes that goes down like a lead balloon and

780
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: they're like, well we're paying, and I'm like, yeah, I'm

781
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: delivering in my.

782
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: Way, yes, so it does. I get it.

783
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 2: The one thing that I think people forget, not forget

784
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 2: about social media, but like a lot of people DM

785
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: me and write to me like like the need help

786
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: and all that.

787
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: Kind of thing.

788
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: So you've got to be aware that, like your message

789
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 2: is hitting people, and you've got to be very conscious

790
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: of what that message is. And you're clear with yours.

791
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: You're so clear with your everything that you do, which

792
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: I love, I love love.

793
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: I've got a list of questions here, so I need

794
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: to look back down because.

795
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: I get too I get too wrapped up in you,

796
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my goodness, Okay, this is going

797
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: to be a weird one.

798
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: You're gonna be like, where'd she come from?

799
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 4: With this?

800
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: So last Christmas Day and you, oh, I think I

801
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: came to a Christmas Day and your New Year's Eve

802
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:15,959
Speaker 2: you disco yoga.

803
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: There was a gold theme, I think on solid gold.

804
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 4: So we did like seventies like fun playlist.

805
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: And I remember going through like a glitter like yeah,

806
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: you know, hanging from the door and everything. But all

807
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 2: that money went to charity or was that for the

808
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: Christmas Day?

809
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 3: Christmas Day?

810
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 4: So I always teach on Christmas Day and every all

811
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 4: the donations go to whoever I'm picking for that time,

812
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 4: I think I did.

813
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 3: I think it was for Sedan or something.

814
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but that could have been the one

815
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 4: time before African Kids, you know.

816
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: African Kids one.

817
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: I remember that, so that sounded so like But what

818
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: I noticed like because I was like, how how does

819
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: Nicking make me feel? And I always think, shit, she

820
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: gives so much for her self away, like in a

821
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: good way. And you've all every year like, yeah, you're

822
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: working with a charity or you're and you've written I

823
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: don't know if you remember this, you've written me in

824
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: the past and gone, hey, I've seen you volunteer on

825
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: Christmas Day.

826
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: Who do you deal with?

827
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: I'm interested in helping out and I think that I

828
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: feel like that's such a big part of your call,

829
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: which is giving back to people, and you're always doing

830
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: kind of like there's a charity element to like Pepper

831
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: in the background. Is there a reason, like do you

832
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: think it's just a bigger version of that giving back

833
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: and helping people.

834
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: I think that service is essential. Yeah, And like I

835
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 4: said before, I've got a lot of energy, so it's

836
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 4: it's my will is pretty full, so I have a

837
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 4: lot to offer, and I believe that some people are

838
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 4: not as fortunate as me, So I if I can

839
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 4: help anyone in any way, that would be amazing, you know.

840
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 4: And you know, like we did a free disco yoga

841
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 4: for the Butterfly Foundation. We raise like no thousand dollars.

842
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 4: When one of my friends was killed in one of

843
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 4: the bushfires that happened a few years ago, and I

844
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: was in Byron when it happened, and the first thing

845
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 4: I said after the phone call, I was pretty distraught,

846
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 4: and I said, Okay, but what can I do to

847
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 4: give back?

848
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 3: And so I.

849
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 4: Put on an event at the Prince of Wales and

850
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 4: got all of my dancer friends everyone that I could

851
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: I knew. I rang and said can you please do something?

852
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 4: Even got Denny Hines to sing, got so many people

853
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 4: on board, and we raised ten thousand dollars that night

854
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 4: and we gave it because it was only ten thousand,

855
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 4: I gave it to the animals, so the rspaca, the

856
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 4: victims of the animals.

857
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, so.

858
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,479
Speaker 4: That's I like to do that. That makes me feel good.

859
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 4: It's not and it's not about me even, but I

860
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 4: like if I can give, then I'm good.

861
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's your whole jam, isn't it. Yeah? I love it.

862
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit about Dharmaland?

863
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, So Damaland's a similar kind of It's got a

864
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: similar ethos to it.

865
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: It's about the community.

866
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 4: So dama Land's a two day festival I'm creating, and

867
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 4: it is. It's pretty massive. This is probably I'd have

868
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: to say it's the biggest event I've ever done. And

869
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 4: it's a massive learning curve. Like I'm turning it into

870
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: a not for profit so that I can give back

871
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 4: to the community and also have the community support me

872
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 4: as much as they can as well. And it's going

873
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 4: to be filled with the best yoga that you can

874
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 4: get or any kind So it's a festival based on movement, mindfulness,

875
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 4: and sustainability, the three things that I think that are

876
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 4: key for the future of humanity. So we need to

877
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 4: move because obesity is massive and that leads to so

878
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 4: many things like depression and anxiety.

879
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: And all sorts of stuff.

880
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 4: And then on top of so the mindfulness part of it,

881
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: meditation is key to the world. And this is the

882
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 4: cycle of the world that we're in right now. It's

883
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: like it's this kind of degraded version of ourselves, you know,

884
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 4: So we have to lift from the soul rather than

885
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 4: the external. So there'll be lots of meditation, There'll be

886
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 4: lots of dharma talks, so inspiring people who can give

887
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 4: us tools to take home, so it would be stuff

888
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 4: you can do at work, stuff you can do at home,

889
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 4: and then places you can go to as well, so

890
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 4: you know, inspiring people to go to stuff that's already

891
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 4: available in their community basically. And then sustainability is massive,

892
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 4: like climate change, Like when we're just we can all

893
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 4: ignore it as much as we like, but I'm sorry,

894
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 4: Like how often in in winter are there days where

895
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 4: you're like, is it summer?

896
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: What's happening?

897
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: You know?

898
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 4: The amount of rubbish that we have just piling up,

899
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 4: like I don't plastics, Like there's so much more to

900
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 4: it than that as well, Like how do we how

901
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 4: do we see the future, and what are you prepared

902
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 4: to do to get there? If you really see it

903
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 4: as something positive and if you want to keep having

904
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 4: children and expanding your families and all this sort of stuff,

905
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: then you think about their life and their children's life,

906
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 4: Like don't just think about you right now, Like this

907
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 4: is the problem of the ego. It's like me, me, me,

908
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 4: me me, I don't really care what you're doing, and

909
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 4: which is why, Like being a vegetarian and now a

910
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,959
Speaker 4: vegan is one of the biggest steps you can take

911
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 4: to transform forming the world just by not having all

912
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 4: of those animals eating all of those grains.

913
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 3: Like there's so many things.

914
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 4: That we can already do right now to change the future,

915
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 4: but we're ignoring it. So I just want to have

916
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 4: people from leading information who we can just give it away.

917
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: So there'll be one part of the festival that's free

918
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 4: and open to everybody to come, and then a paid

919
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 4: to everyone again yes, and then there's a paid area

920
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 4: where we'll have the elite of everyone. You know, I'm

921
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 4: pretty pretty specific about what I find is quality yoga,

922
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 4: and we'll even have pilarates and things like that, other

923
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 4: kind of movement based activities and dancing. You know, I'm

924
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 4: going to have dance classes and disco yoga obviously is

925
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 4: going to be a part of it, and DJs and music.

926
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 4: All the things that make us really alive and happy

927
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 4: to be alive are going to be involved in this

928
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 4: color and movement. Oh my god, she's starting to chew

929
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 4: on that Stick's all.

930
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: Right, that's fine, good old match. It's so beautiful. Yes,

931
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: I love it. No, No, it's kids bought my mistick.

932
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: Like she's chilling it.

933
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: All right, she's taking it outside. It's okay.

934
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: She's like a really calm shark, isn't She just like

935
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: stealthily walks in. But as you were describing all the

936
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: attributes or all the qualities of DumbLand, I was like, Oh,

937
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: it feels alive.

938
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: That was the feeling.

939
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: That's exactly the.

940
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 4: Vibe that it's going to be the most fun festival

941
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 4: you've ever going to be been at. It. It's basically

942
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 4: based on Disneyland and Disneyland and Wonderlus mixed together, so

943
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 4: totally serving the community.

944
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 3: And giving everybody an opportunity.

945
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my goodness, happiest place in the world exactly.

946
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: It's a must go to in your lifetime.

947
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

948
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 4: So I'm all about color, as you know, like the

949
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 4: fact that I color my hair all the time and

950
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 4: we're looking.

951
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: At a beautiful purple hue today, would we say.

952
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, gorge Yeah.

953
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 4: And in my house it's just a bombit of color

954
00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 4: basically everywhere. And I know, I know I wouldn't have

955
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 4: many people in my house. And you like in the

956
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 4: top choices.

957
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: I think everything you're saying, and obviously like I look

958
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 2: up to you as a yoga teacher and someone that's

959
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: mentoring me with my teaching.

960
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: But I feel like our hearts are pretty aligned.

961
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, similar like when you talk about can't that older

962
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: soul that's come back a few times?

963
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: Like I can meet someone I'm like.

964
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 2: I feel sick, Like I will have a physical feeling

965
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: if I meet an yet, like I will have this,

966
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: or I'll get a flush or like yeah, a panic,

967
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: a bit of a panic or something like you can

968
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: feel it straight way. Or you'll meet someone you be like, shit,

969
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 2: i feel like I've known them for five years, you know,

970
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: like you've got this or since there, but like, and

971
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: I just think that's where you were talking about, like

972
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 2: how in tune you are with yourself.

973
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: So dumb Lamb will be next.

974
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: Year, yep, February next year.

975
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: People can get involved, can't they. I'm going to like

976
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: all your stuff in here and totally might.

977
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 3: Darland's really really in.

978
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 4: The the creative stage right now.

979
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: That's fun though, yeah, totally.

980
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 4: Like I've actually I have a vision of it completely

981
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 4: and I've already done the schedule everything, It's all organized.

982
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 4: But creating a not for profit is challenging, I've found,

983
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 4: especially when law is not your bag. So I've been

984
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 4: really growing in that way and having to stay really

985
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 4: steady and meditate when i feel like I'm getting a

986
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 4: bit frustrated with it or whatever, and allow myself to

987
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 4: be okay with not being perfect and to be messy

988
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 4: a little bit and then grow from that place. And

989
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 4: I've had huge amount of support from people who love

990
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: me and I love and you know, like I just

991
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 4: I could be here for days trying to explain all

992
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 4: the gifts that these people have given me.

993
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 3: Already.

994
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 4: I'm very supported, So I'm very fortunate and I wake

995
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 4: up every day, and I'm grateful for these things, and

996
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 4: I say it out loud and tell myself how grateful

997
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 4: I am for all of the people in my life.

998
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's going to put this towards you that

999
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: I was an idea. This is what I think it

1000
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: because I'm a little bit business. Ye Like, I love

1001
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: looking at like as you're saying all this, I'm like, yeah,

1002
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: I can imagine how it's gonna look. I can see

1003
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: what a bird's eye blueprint would look.

1004
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: Like right now.

1005
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: Is there going to be a time when you're eventually

1006
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: are going to have to pull it away from teaching

1007
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: as much at studio studios in order to run these

1008
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 2: bit much bigger Because to me, Dameland feels like disco.

1009
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: Yoga on steroids.

1010
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: It is basically you know, and like, I know you're

1011
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: a dreamer and a doer, and I know that you

1012
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 2: and I both have this beautiful affinity for America as well.

1013
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: And I think which is where Dharmlin was born.

1014
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: I was meditating and I came out of a meditation

1015
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 4: and it downloaded to me and I literally rode everything

1016
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 4: down in this moment when I was in La.

1017
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: There you go, kids go meditate and all your all

1018
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: your ideas.

1019
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: But it's so true, isn't it.

1020
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: I literally rocked up to yoga the other morning, and

1021
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: what did I say to you was, as I saw you,

1022
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: do you remember I'd woken up so Nick he was

1023
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: teaching the six fifty.

1024
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 4: Oh then you dreamt about my dog and I had my.

1025
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: Alarms at seventh thirty. I was really tired.

1026
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 2: I need a bit of shit that day, so I

1027
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: was like, I'm just going to sleep, but like I

1028
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: just was feeling a bit like period and sugary and

1029
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, And I was like, I'm

1030
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: gonna set my alarm for seven thirty and get on

1031
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 2: with my day. Since I wake up, Nope, I'm dreaming

1032
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: of match. I wake up at exactly five forty five.

1033
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 2: I'm like, shit, if I can get ready in five minutes, old,

1034
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: make Nikki's class.

1035
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: I like threw on who knows what? Out of the door.

1036
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: I'll like see Nicki And I'm like, dude, I just

1037
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: dreamt of match.

1038
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: But again, that's a bit like that's interesting because like

1039
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: stars aligning all that kind of thing. So yeah, if

1040
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 2: my question a few is I see dam Lang being

1041
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: fucking massive, like being global, not like yes, We'll start

1042
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: in Melbourne, which is where we are now.

1043
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: And your awesome apartment. Is this an apartment would you

1044
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: call it?

1045
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 4: Well, it's a it's an eighteen hundred's mansion that has

1046
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 4: been transformed into apartments.

1047
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: So I reckon.

1048
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: We're in the dining room of the mansion and they

1049
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 4: transformed it into an apartment. So this bathroom obviously in

1050
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 4: toilet and kitchen, so cool.

1051
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, in Melbourne. We're in Melbourne, so do you see

1052
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: that is a plan for DumbLand. Then go Melbourne, Sydney.

1053
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: Absolutely, bruisy yep.

1054
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 4: And then basically what I need more than anything is

1055
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 4: support right now and financial support and sponsorship, which is

1056
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 4: the next stage.

1057
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 3: So once I've become a not for profit, applying for.

1058
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 4: Grants and things like that, and and then we're just

1059
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 4: going to start reaching out to people and seeing who

1060
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 4: wants to be involved, so anyone that's aligned basically with

1061
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 4: because it's going to be completely green, so there's no plastic,

1062
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 4: there's no waste. We'll be having everything on site that's

1063
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 4: recyclable and basically measured to the amount of people that

1064
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 4: we sell tickets too, so we have virtually no waste.

1065
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 4: So that's the goal of that part of it, and

1066
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: then you know, obviously you have to be aligned the

1067
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 4: whole thing is vegan as well. But the point of

1068
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 4: that really is the educational part of how you can

1069
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 4: make a change to the future of the planet. So

1070
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 4: that's the main reason for that. It's not necessarily we're

1071
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 4: not putting on it that it's vegan. Anywhere you will

1072
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 4: be offered the most amazing food and you won't even

1073
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 4: know that you're not eating meat or anything like that,

1074
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: do you know what I mean?

1075
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 3: Like, you won't even care.

1076
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 4: It'll be like, wow, this is amazing exactly. We want

1077
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 4: to inspire people and let them understand that this is

1078
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 4: a great way of living. Yeah, clean, like respectful, a

1079
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 4: hymnsa no, no harming anything.

1080
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: A himsa is non harming. So it's one of the

1081
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: armas and the armas.

1082
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 4: So you know, when you really like study yoga and

1083
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 4: you study the armas and armas the philosophy of it

1084
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 4: and the teachings and kind of like the rule book,

1085
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 4: I guess your morals and ethics.

1086
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: The y and themas are like you're the rules, like

1087
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 2: the yes and the nose or is it more.

1088
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 4: Like the ethics and morals of how you conduct yourself

1089
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 4: as a being on the planet. Yeah, right, So a

1090
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 4: himsar is one of them, and that's non harming, but

1091
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 4: it's also non harming to yourself the way that you think,

1092
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 4: the way that you speak to others, the way you

1093
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 4: treat others, including your closest ones and your animals. And

1094
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 4: so that's that's pretty much how I live my life

1095
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 4: through those.

1096
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: Yes, you live yoga.

1097
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: That's the other thing when we're talking about before, Like

1098
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: it's so easy to go and do you two hundred hours,

1099
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 2: but in that two hundred hours, you spend maybe half

1100
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: a day going over the numbers and the nams and

1101
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: then you're like.

1102
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: Come what, Like it's doesn't stick, Like it's such a small.

1103
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: It's you really have to go delve or like learning

1104
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 2: about preniyama like breath control and breath work, like that's

1105
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 2: such a if it's touched on in a teacher training, brilliant,

1106
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: you know. And I think you have like gone above

1107
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 2: and beyond to really kind of like what yoga is

1108
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: not just to you, but as the way that you

1109
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: want to spread it. Yes, and you also on that

1110
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: note quickly, you also run retreats, don't you You've done

1111
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: a few retreats in Bali.

1112
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 1: You've got one coming up in Peru.

1113
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 3: Yes, so pretty cool.

1114
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 4: No, I've never been to an island, I know. I'm like, Oh,

1115
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 4: it's just going to be amazing. So we're in Sacred

1116
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 4: Valley and you know, it's a beautiful spiritual place to

1117
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 4: go and do something like this. And the retreat is

1118
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 4: about the power of belief. So we'll be doing workshops

1119
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 4: on how to crack you know, those limiting core beliefs

1120
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 4: and understanding what belief is and why belief is so

1121
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 4: important because you're believing things regardless of whether you're aware

1122
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 4: of it or not. And if you're repeating things in

1123
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 4: your mind all the time, that's holding you back from

1124
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 4: your potential just because somebody said something to you when

1125
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 4: you were five years old, which has I've had that

1126
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 4: and still have moments of that where I'm like, whoa,

1127
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 4: that still shows up, you know, So I think we

1128
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 4: all have that. Yeah, so that's what that's going to

1129
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 4: be about. Well, we're going to much you pict you

1130
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 4: as well.

1131
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: I heard you say that the other morning.

1132
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, that's another thing that may not be

1133
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: here forever if we keep not looking after our planet exactly.

1134
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 4: And I don't say any of these things to try

1135
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 4: to put myself in a different place than other people,

1136
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 4: and because I'm absolutely.

1137
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: Not perfect, but that's what makes no human is but

1138
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: that's what makes me exactly.

1139
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 4: But I'm conscious of what I'm doing as me, you know,

1140
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 4: and trying my best to do the best that I

1141
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 4: can for me and for everyone else that I come

1142
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 4: in contact with a lot.

1143
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,959
Speaker 2: But yeah, you've talked really openly about failure, especially when

1144
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 2: you were dancing partying and there was something missing in

1145
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 2: your life and you're kind of like medicating with booze and.

1146
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: Weed and drugs and all that kind of thing. Right, So.

1147
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: For people listening that are in their like lost, like,

1148
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: I think we all go through phase where it feeling

1149
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 2: a bit like combobulated, totally all right, said.

1150
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: To my boyfriend, I'm in the Wars. I'm in the

1151
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: Wars at the moment, Like you just get that feeling

1152
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: like retrograde.

1153
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 4: Now, I know it's been an interesting month, mate, When

1154
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 4: does it end?

1155
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: When does it? Mercury rich cred I think that's.

1156
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 3: Another another week or two of it.

1157
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, TikTok, hurry up.

1158
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: So, yeah, what's your advice someone that feels stuck and

1159
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 2: like they're they're going around churning around.

1160
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so.

1161
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 4: I think that you'll find when you're stuck that things

1162
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 4: feel overwhelming and you feel like the world's kind of

1163
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 4: crashing down on you a bit. So you have to

1164
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 4: sit with yourself at that point and ask yourself, do

1165
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 4: I believe that this is where I want to be

1166
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 4: or do I believe that I want to be somewhere else?

1167
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 4: And once you get that decision made, it's like a

1168
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 4: will that has to be there for you to transform, right,

1169
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 4: But you also have to be really compassionate with yourself

1170
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 4: because if you're going to be hard on yourself, which

1171
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 4: is already the thing that got you into the trouble

1172
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 4: in the first place, if you're going to use that

1173
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 4: same mentality of judgment and analytical voice that goes on

1174
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 4: in your head, it's going to take you to the

1175
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 4: same place and you're just going to get more frustrated.

1176
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 4: So for you to transform, you have to surrender and

1177
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 4: you have to soften.

1178
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 3: It's like yoga, same deal.

1179
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 4: You have to let go of the old version of

1180
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 4: you and move into the new version of you. So

1181
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 4: you have to kind of go through some messiness at first,

1182
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 4: because your body's used to be in a certain way,

1183
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 4: your mind's used to being a certain way, and it's

1184
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 4: a habit. It's a habit of self loathing, or it's

1185
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 4: a habit of being destructive, it's a habit of being angry,

1186
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 4: you know, all the things that hold us back from

1187
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 4: being the potential of who we are, which is ultimately love.

1188
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 4: Because what baby have you met that you didn't go,

1189
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 4: oh my god, that baby's so freaking cute, look at it.

1190
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 4: I'm in love with it and you don't even know it.

1191
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 4: But that's the essence of who it is. So that's you, initially,

1192
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 4: underneath all the stories that you've carried on for your

1193
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 4: whole entire life. So if you are sick of the

1194
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 4: story that you're living and you want to get rid

1195
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 4: of it, you have to be okay with being messy

1196
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 4: and uncomfortable and break through that with consistency and breathing

1197
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 4: through the fear rather than letting the fear take over you,

1198
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 4: and get help, get help, talk to people. I was

1199
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 4: very lucky to have my sister. She was like my confidante.

1200
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 4: She she like kept me accountable and pushed me to

1201
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 4: change and to transform myself. I did the but she

1202
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 4: was like, not accepting anything less. You want to be

1203
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 4: in my life. This is what you have to do.

1204
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 4: You have to be the best version of you. That's it.

1205
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 4: It was the ultimate goal. I need your sister.

1206
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1207
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1208
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: So and you mentioned before that often a change, to

1209
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: make a change or something we need, we respond.

1210
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 3: To like a shock.

1211
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 4: Yes, so if so, Doctor Joe Despends has been my

1212
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 4: teacher of late, like even more so than a yoga teacher, say,

1213
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 4: for example, because the transformational stuff, Like it's one thing

1214
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 4: to move your body and do all the things that

1215
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 4: we do in yoga, but really, why are you doing it?

1216
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 4: What's the purpose? If you can't do exercise, are you

1217
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 4: still going to do the work? Or is it just

1218
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 4: yoga that that's what you call yoga?

1219
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

1220
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 4: Like if you break your leg, are you still going

1221
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 4: to do yoga?

1222
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: Like?

1223
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 4: Are you going to do the mental yoga? Are you

1224
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 4: going to do the heart yoga? A you're going to

1225
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 4: do the meditation, the promiama? Like what are you going

1226
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 4: to do? You know? So he says basically for you

1227
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 4: to transformform one, take yourself out of the environment, that

1228
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 4: you're in, go somewhere else and transform yourself with all

1229
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 4: of the tools of like you know, meditation and breath

1230
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 4: work and all of that stuff that he works with.

1231
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 3: But he also says that you.

1232
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 4: Will naturally want to change dramatically, like transform yourself instantly.

1233
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 4: If you have had a death in the family that

1234
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 4: meant a huge amount to you and shocked you and

1235
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 4: you didn't know how to deal with it, it might transform

1236
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 4: you to be someone else. And then if you've been

1237
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 4: really sick and your life.

1238
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 3: Was threatened, that will transform you.

1239
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 4: Like he deals with a lot of people who have cancer,

1240
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 4: for you know, four stage cancer and like diseases, they've

1241
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 4: lived with their whole lives, and he's transforming them. Like

1242
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 4: he's absolutely inspirational in that sense that he's lived what

1243
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 4: he's teaching.

1244
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 3: He saved himself.

1245
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 4: From a massive accident where he was hit by a

1246
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 4: truck and broke his back in quite a few places

1247
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 4: and was basically told you'll never walk again, and he

1248
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 4: meditated and transformed himself. So he meditated on and visualizing

1249
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 4: and seeing what it was that his spine was healthy,

1250
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 4: and he kept doing it and he never gave up. Never, never, never,

1251
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 4: gave up, and because he had nowhere else to go,

1252
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 4: and he watched himself go through the mind cycle of doubt,

1253
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 4: of worry, of stress, of anxiety, all the things, and

1254
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 4: he had to keep coming back to the meditation. And

1255
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 4: he did it and did it and did it, and

1256
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 4: within six months he was walking again. I don't know

1257
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 4: anyone else that's done that. No, So that takes discipline

1258
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 4: as well, though, of course, but he had nowhere to go, right.

1259
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 4: It's different when you've got your life that you're living

1260
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 4: and all the stories that you're living, and they're reminding

1261
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 4: you of who you already are.

1262
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 3: If you want to be something else, you have to

1263
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 3: change all of that. But you have to be vigilant.

1264
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 3: You cannot give up up.

1265
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: It's like on a lesser scale, when you go through

1266
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: a breakup and you're like, ah, I'm gonna it never

1267
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: lasts because it's obviously using the wrong energy, but it's

1268
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: enough of a shift to often kind of like it

1269
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 2: kicks you into a gear or you change your hair

1270
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 2: or you know those things that But that's a very

1271
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 2: micro version and also the wrong kind of one to use.

1272
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: I always talk about it in health. I'm like, never

1273
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 2: go on a detox or a diet for a boy

1274
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: to do it, because you're always doing energetically, it's coming

1275
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: from the wrong energy.

1276
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think.

1277
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: Making that change and knowing that if you're going to

1278
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 2: make a change, that the doubts will come in, that

1279
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 2: the worry is going to come in, and having that

1280
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: kind of like whether it be the grounding of yoga

1281
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 2: or meditation or pranniyama, to catch you a man, try.

1282
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 3: To catch yes, totally. That's what's happening with me with

1283
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 3: Damiland right now.

1284
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 4: I keep finding myself in uncomfortable positions where I'm like,

1285
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 4: how am I going to sort this out? And every

1286
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 4: time that I've found myself in that uncomfortable position, I've

1287
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 4: turned my phone off and I've put a meditation on

1288
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 4: and I've sat down and I've meditated for at least

1289
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 4: twenty minutes because i don't know how else to deal

1290
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 4: with it.

1291
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the only way, because you've got to

1292
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: You've got to completely change your mindset, got to.

1293
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 3: Change your mindset, and you've got to change your energy.

1294
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't solve problems from anger and frustration and fear.

1295
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 4: You can't solve them from there. So you have to

1296
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 4: surrender to the unknown. And that's the unfamiliar thing that

1297
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 4: we're all afraid of, is being unfamiliar because we're habitual beings.

1298
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so.

1299
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 2: I think as well with the whether it be DumbLand,

1300
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 2: whether it be something going on, whether it be that

1301
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 2: you want to change a feeling stark. For me, always

1302
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: like a clicking point or a switch flicking point is

1303
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: a sense of I'm doing this because I bloody love myself.

1304
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: For me, that's like enough to go.

1305
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: No, you're doing this because you want too, Lola, And

1306
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: because you value yourself.

1307
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, whether it be doing it, you have to

1308
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 4: value yourself. And if that is the reason why that

1309
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 4: you're fearful and stressed.

1310
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 3: Work on that.

1311
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, find the reason why you believe that story and

1312
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 4: change it.

1313
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Speaker 1: And that's where I love you.

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Speaker 2: Just said get help, Like I'm really open about having

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Speaker 2: a therapist, and I think get the help that you need,

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01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: whether that be see your hypno therapist, see someone to

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Speaker 2: help you with med teacher, meditation, or there's an amazing

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Speaker 2: natural path and counselor, and he's a compassionate, mindful, compassionate

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Speaker 2: coach yea.

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Speaker 1: And teaches you to be more self compassionate.

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Speaker 4: Like there's so much hap, so much help, and it's

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Speaker 4: it's an abundance of resources. It's more that I think

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01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 4: that we have to know who we are and what's

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01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 4: going to resonate with us. Because you could go on

1325
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 4: the advice of someone else saying go and see this person,

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01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 4: but really, if you don't believe it, it's not going

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01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 4: to change anything. So you have to understand who you

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01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 4: are and what works for you. And don't listen to

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Speaker 4: the voice that's telling you to freak and not go.

1330
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 4: Don't listen to that other voice.

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Speaker 1: There are going to be people around you that do

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Speaker 1: doubt you exactly. Don't listen to.

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01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 4: Those good light, good luck with your wife.

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01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: Now.

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01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 2: I when I had a smoothie but my business partner

1336
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: was hilarious and and oh we just had every now

1337
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 2: and then we'd have a few just tricky staff members,

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01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 2: and he'd always say if we if we had to

1339
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 2: let someone go, he'd say catch a late, because he

1340
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 2: was in the coffee business and it was all about lates.

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01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: And he'd be like, see you a late, Done onto

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Speaker 1: the next one. I'll be like du us. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: speaking of healing and.

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01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: That there is help, out there obviously for you and

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01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: I help his yoga and being on the mat and

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01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: having that discipline to show up on the mat without

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01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 2: any attachment to an outcome. We talk a lot about

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01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 2: in yoga as well. For someone that's like listening to this,

1349
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: going okay, I'm going to try yoga. Now I'm going

1350
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 2: to do it, and I'm fucking scared and I can't

1351
01:05:55,640 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: touch my toes and I'm uncle warden and knees. Yeah

1352
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 2: that's awesome. Yeah, but people have this weird thing. I

1353
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 2: need to be flexible to do yoga. I need to

1354
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: be able to do a handstand. I still can't. I

1355
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 2: still can't do one. Yeah, we'll need to practice this.

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Speaker 3: So we'll do that's the next workshop.

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Speaker 2: What's your advice someone that wants to try, they're a

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01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 2: bit worried and maybe a bit unconfident about it.

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Speaker 1: What would you tip be h.

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Speaker 4: I think that it's important to pick something that is

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01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 4: not going to have a whole lot of excuses around it.

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01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 4: So if it's too far away, you're not going to

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01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 4: go at six in the morning or something or whatever,

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01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 4: I'll just stay in bed or can't be bothered. Pick

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01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 4: something that's successible and I recommend going to beginners classes because.

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Speaker 1: I love beginners.

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01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 4: Beginner's classes are broken down, They're not going to be easy.

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01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 4: I taught beginners for years, for years and years and years.

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01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 4: I loved that class because all of a sudden, I

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01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 4: had this audience of people who were listening, who were

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01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 4: like there for the right reasons. They were curious, you know,

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01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 4: and they wanted to learn, and all I want to

1373
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 4: do is give. So I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, there

1374
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 4: was a really nice exchange. It was just literally the

1375
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 4: time slot that I didn't want anymore. As a seven

1376
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 4: thirty class. It got me to bed way too late,

1377
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 4: so I had to give it up in the end.

1378
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 4: But I think that that's important. Don't go into the

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01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 4: six pm classes so quickly, because they tend to have

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01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 4: regular students going and members who have a strong practice.

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01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 4: And then you look around and you can feel a

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01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 4: little overwhelmed if people are doing enhandstance to chat a

1383
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 4: runger and you know, ever DoD a.

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Speaker 1: Six pm class. I'm a morning girl. I can't.

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01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, just pick your time slot properly. And

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01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 4: you know, the weekend classes are generally okay, but they're

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Speaker 4: also really busy.

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01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're not going to.

1389
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 4: Get much attention, and then you're going to be like, ah,

1390
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 4: yoga didn't really love it, wasn't that for me? Blah

1391
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 4: blah blah. And also the idea of being flexible is not.

1392
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 3: It's not coherent with yoga.

1393
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 4: It's actually where we're on a scale of imbalances in

1394
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 4: life and we're either really rigid or we're too flexible,

1395
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 4: can't be bothered, do you know.

1396
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 3: What I mean?

1397
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 4: We're like like a type personality like do do do

1398
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 4: Doo doo, pushing our nervous system to the absolute extreme.

1399
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 4: And then we're wondering why we've got chronic fatigue, you know,

1400
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 4: all these other things that conditions of the skin and

1401
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 4: this and that and whatever, Like we're wondering why our

1402
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 4: body is screaming at us, going.

1403
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 3: Why are you doing this to me? This is not normal?

1404
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: And then.

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01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 4: And then the other end of the scale is you're

1406
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 4: not doing anything, do you know what I mean? So

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01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 4: they're both going to create suffering. So yoga's really asking

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01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 4: to go to the middle of all of this. Be

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01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 4: flexible in your mind and your body, be strong in

1410
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 4: your mind and your body.

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01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: Once this comes to this.

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01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 4: Is my ultimate all time teaching of yoga above and

1413
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 4: on anything else, because it relates to everyone. We're all

1414
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 4: doing that, and we're all going to tip the scale

1415
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 4: of that at some point during the day.

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01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 2: So that's and you can take that off the mat

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01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 2: to that balance of finding strength and softness.

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01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 4: Basically yes, like yeah, like look at the places where

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01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 4: you're really stuck and really rigid and you say no

1420
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 4: all the time, Maybe say yes.

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01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 3: Ye oh, I like this, say yes for a while.

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01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 2: And you mentioned before, and I'm just scared that we

1423
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 2: may have lost it. In the other little chunk was

1424
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 2: ask yourself if you're happy?

1425
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, you know, if you're if you're.

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01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 4: Questioning who you are a lot, and you're looking externally

1427
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 4: for things to fulfill that hole. And you know, I

1428
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 4: particularly like things like alcohol right accessible. Anyone can go

1429
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 4: and get a drink as long as you're overra chain,

1430
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 4: go to the shop, get yourself. Some malcohol makes you

1431
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 4: feel different, makes you relax, let go, like, get rid

1432
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 4: of some of that ANX that's kind of built up

1433
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 4: weeks or days or months or years or whatever, and

1434
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 4: all of a sudden you're another different personality that you're like, ah,

1435
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 4: I'm a happy person, I'm all good, I love my life,

1436
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 4: dad a lot, and then next day you wake up

1437
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 4: with a hangover.

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01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1439
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 4: So it's this ebbing and flowing of things that are

1440
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 4: going on that really challenge us, and they accumulate over time.

1441
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 4: So if you find that all of a sudden, you're like,

1442
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 4: why am I so depressed?

1443
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 3: Like why is life not fulfilling me?

1444
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 4: Yoga is asking us to come home to who we

1445
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 4: really are, you know, like to come home to the

1446
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 4: essence of who we are, which is love. And it's

1447
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 4: got nothing to do with judgment or frustration or anger

1448
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 4: or all of those vices that we live our life by.

1449
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 4: You know, that fulfilling superficial needs and surface needs of things.

1450
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:53,640
Speaker 4: You know.

1451
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: Ah, you're amazing. I could talk to you all flame

1452
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: and day long.

1453
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 3: Can we can?

1454
01:10:58,479 --> 01:10:59,560
Speaker 1: We can?

1455
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 2: Is there just to top this off, is there a

1456
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 2: mantra or quote or anything that you're living by and

1457
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: loving at the moment, or one that you go back

1458
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 2: to that you just love.

1459
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 4: Nothing in particular that's coming to my mind other than

1460
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 4: you know, me just saying to myself, be grateful, be grateful,

1461
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 4: be really conscious of what you're grateful for, because.

1462
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 3: It's the.

1463
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 4: Energy of receiving anyway. So we're always wanting. It's the

1464
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 4: nature of who we are, or like I want this,

1465
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 4: I want that, I want a relationship, I want a car, I.

1466
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 3: Want a job, I want the la It's just the

1467
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 3: nature of who we are and the story of life.

1468
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 4: That's why we've come to the planet to do the

1469
01:11:53,160 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 4: story of life. So yeah, I just think, be grateful and.

1470
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 3: Know who you are.

1471
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: Oh, do you have a gratitude journal?

1472
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 4: No, I do it verbally. I do it every morning

1473
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 4: and every night before I go to bed. So the

1474
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 4: first thing that I wake up, I don't look at

1475
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 4: my phone. I just go nope, Okay, what am I

1476
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 4: grateful for? Who am I grateful for? Why am I

1477
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 4: grateful for it? Like you know, And I try to

1478
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 4: go beyond what I usually say, so I'll look to

1479
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 4: other things, like maybe even the lessons that I'm learning,

1480
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 4: like the frustrations that I've had. Thank you for challenging

1481
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,719
Speaker 4: me in this way, you know, like those sort of things.

1482
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 2: Well, I'm very grateful for having you today on this podcast.

1483
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 1: And I love that. Be grateful and know who you are.

1484
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 1: I love love that I've loved speaking to you.

1485
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 2: I want to end by saying you and I both

1486
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 2: obsessed with a very similar song, same song. Do you

1487
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,759
Speaker 2: know what I'm going to say? Last last year, last

1488
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 2: summary time. It was a song that came out and

1489
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 2: I remember every time put on my into stories. You're like,

1490
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with that song too, are you talking about?

1491
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 3: Justin timble.

1492
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: The song say something?

1493
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 3: You say something. You've got to watch the video, the video.

1494
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: One take one. I thought I was going to give

1495
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: you a pearl of teaching.

1496
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 4: One take and live with that. That's that hire like

1497
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 4: in the wed chilling, chilling, like I was.

1498
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: I was so excited to leave that with you and

1499
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: go do you know this? And you're like, one day

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01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 1: you and I.

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01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 2: Also one thing about Nick and I, we both watched

1502
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 2: the behind the scenes of Game of Thrones every week

1503
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 2: the bit, so I think we're both that same personal test.

1504
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being on here. So thank you,

1505
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: thanks for having me, and.

1506
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,839
Speaker 1: Thanks for the gams. Know who you are. Be grateful.

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01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: Boom love you, love you, I love you.