1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Christian O'Connell Show podcast Armageddon. That was 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: the movie Jack and I watched yesterday. We kick off 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: our eight z of the nineties. 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: That make you kid infinity and beyond. This is this 5 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety you can't handle the true go up Donga. 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: For her. 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Time. 8 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 3: Christian O'Connell's aida z of the nineties. 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Yeah maybe all right's all about the letter A this 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: week and our ad has said of the nineties, kicking 11 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: off them with aerosith this morning. Dont to miss a 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: thing from the biggest movie of nineteen ninety eight, one 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: of the biggest movies of the nineties, Armageddon. It made 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: over half a billion dollars right and I'm a huge, huge, 15 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: completely over the top nineties movie directed by Michael Bay 16 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: with a who's who of Hollywood in the movies. It's 17 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 1: stacked with premier talent. 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm jealous that you got to watch this in the 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: cinemas in the nineties. 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: Because the acts just the way it should be. 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: Watching it yesterday, I wanted to see it on the 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: big screen. This is a movie that has only grown 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: more and more beautiful with time. I loved it. 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: I tell you what it is. 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: It's like an irony sort of free bulletproof zone, isn't it? 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: If they had if I mean, looking back on it, 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: the actors and the director try to claim that they 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: knew that it was irony. They did not. 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety eight, they lent in. 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: One and wear the better for it. 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: If you're trying to remember Armageddon, Okay, it's a load 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: of oil drillers who are putting a space rocket with 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:49,279 Speaker 1: zero training. All right, people train four years, okay years 34 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: to go up to space. They just they need these 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: guys because there's a meteorite coming to planet Earth and 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: the only chance they've got is this renegade bunch. I 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: love also montage where they're getting the gang together. Any 38 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: movie that does that, I'm all in the premise of 39 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: the movie of armaged in, right, is that a meteor 40 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: is going to destroy planet Earth? Unless actually wrote this 41 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: down in my notes I was watching it. Unless oil 42 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: drillers drill into it, drop a nuclear bomb, then blow 43 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: it up from the inside. You heard all of that, right, 44 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the nineties, when it had also nine different 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: writers brought in to try and beef the movie up 46 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: as the studio kept looking at a bit of it going, um, 47 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: this seems a bit odd one. The was a young 48 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: JJ Abrahams who went on, obviously we could do its 49 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: own amazing stuff. But nine different writers and no cliche 50 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: is left unturned in this movie. They actually say lines 51 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: like what I meant to say was sorry. You know 52 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: where someone high up goes to speak and someone gives 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: them a big spray and then go, what I was 54 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: gonna say was sorry. My favorite line of the entire 55 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 1: movie is that one. 56 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: Is this one here, Colonel Willie Sherup, United States Air 57 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: Force man. 58 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: Requesting permission to shake the hand of the daughter. I'm 59 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: the brievest man I've ever met. 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you. The last ten minutes I 61 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: was watching this yesterday through by myself, tear tears. It's 62 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: so gung ho. 63 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: It's the most pro American movie I've ever seen. It's like, hey, 64 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: sit down, restless world, hold my beer, We've got this. 65 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: It is like the oil companies. I mean, this must 66 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: be Scomo's idea of porn. The oil companies and the 67 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: rice oil drillers. They're the good guys. The whole movie 68 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: celebrating oil. 69 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: Drink, nuclear weapons, planet. 70 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: I Reckon Scomo was on the nine writers on this 71 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: back in nineteen ninety eight. 72 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: I love that he could still get emotional towards the end, 73 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: because every second counts towards the end, the closer. 74 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: The asternism how many times? How many times? Right? 75 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: If you? 76 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: If I always played a drinking game. 77 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: The phrase clubs chicken, guys is said about one thousand times. 78 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: This thing's gonna blow any minute, guys. It's also said 79 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: a lot in the movie. 80 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: So we're watching the clock over and over again, we 81 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: know that there's every. 82 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: Second against time to save planet Earth. 83 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: Then it gets to the point where they're about to 84 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: blow up the asteroid and save the world. Yet Bruce 85 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: Willis has time to FaceTime essentially his daughter Live Tyler 86 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: and have a lengthy back. 87 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: And forth, real old, long winded chat with her as well. 88 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: And there they're also I love all the bits where 89 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: they're going. I'm still drilling eight hundred meters to go 90 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: to the Iron Fairest Plate. 91 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: I don't even know if there is such thing as 92 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: the Iron Fairest Plate. 93 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm going is think gonna make it to the Iron 94 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: Fairest Plate. 95 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: Hurry. Eight hundred minutes ago. 96 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: I did love how how hell bent they were to 97 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: get like eight hundred feet into the into the asteroids 98 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: like seven ninety five would have probably done the job. Still, 99 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: send the nuke down there, you're gonna be all right. 100 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: There's a yeah, there's a bit in the movie as 101 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: well where there's a line I think he's in the 102 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: first twenty minutes, right, and that's where I actually got goosebumps, 103 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: thinking this might be one of the most important lines 104 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: in cinematic history where they're talking about I think it's 105 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: about they're talking someone's talk about Bruce Woldi's and they 106 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: go whatever they. 107 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: Said couldn't be drilled. This guy drilled. I'm all him. 108 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: I'm on in. Will you ask me to invest in this? 109 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: Just telling me this line's in the movie. I'll give you, 110 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: I'll give you my money, I'll remortgage. 111 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: Now this movie needs to be told, well, he's never 112 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: been giving a drilling depth that he hasn't. 113 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: Hit At times, it's so believable. It's like watching a documentary. 114 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: You're thinking, is this a documentary? I think in the 115 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: end of it they've worked out there are one hundred 116 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: and sixty eight factual errors in that movie. 117 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. 118 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 3: It's movie made and you're having a good time. 119 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: But Christian Connell Show podcast. So yesterday Jack and I 120 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: watched Armageddon IF over some on that and through various lockdowns, 121 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: you feel like you've seen everything to stream. Go back 122 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: this weekend, grab a couple of beers, get some snacks. 123 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: You will love Armageddon. 124 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: I've just said he got thirty eight percent on Ronning Tomatoes. 125 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: That's criminal snobs, right, it's his sobbery. It's a fun movie. 126 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: I was grinning so many times. It's that there's something 127 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: warmheartedly over the. 128 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: Top about it. 129 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: I was watching it with Bianca, who's American, right, and 130 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: she said, this is so different to when I watched 131 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: this the first time, when as an American you just think, yeah, 132 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: we always save the world, no problem. Then when you 133 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 2: watch it with a little bit of perspective, like America 134 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: didn't consult any other countries about wanting to save. 135 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: The waist just gets obliterated. Right. Paris a city of 136 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: culture and history. 137 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: I don't know whether Michael Bayer, director had a dodgy 138 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: sort of time there and thought, do you know what, 139 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to make a movie one day? Well, we're 140 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: just going to wipe out Paris, and it's okay. 141 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: The scene is last probably two seconds. You see the 142 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: Eiffel Tar and all of Paris get obliterated. 143 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 3: And it's never mentioned again. The Paris is now gone. 144 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: It's a non issue. 145 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: It's a non issue. 146 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: The other thing that I found most unbelievable, aside from 147 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: all the glaring scientific areas, was the fact that lived 148 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: Tyler's character Grace a lot of that. 149 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,559 Speaker 3: Stuff ageally, well, ha's it. There's no creek factor about 150 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: Willis's daughter, you know. 151 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: Very hot, you mean from the other oil riggers, Yes. 152 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: A very different time. I mean there are just two 153 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: any shots were for no reason. She's lying down with 154 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: her bum in the end. 155 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: I didn't even really like the scene where her dad, 156 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: Bruce Willis, is hiding behind some space equipment watching her, 157 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: watching him make out, and. 158 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: She he become a dad to Daches. I could easily 159 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: imagine myself doing the same thing. But the most unwindest 160 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: little thing I went the whole movie is she calls 161 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: her dad Harry his name. I can't in real life, 162 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: no one actually calls their dad by their name, do they. 163 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: She keeps calling him Harry throughout the movie, and I've 164 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: thought hand a bit. Why is she calling it his dad? 165 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: Why is she calling him by his first name. I've 166 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: never seen that in real life. 167 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: It's offensive and maybe that's why he's so cranky in 168 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: the film enough to shoot Beneffleck with a shotgun. On 169 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: the side of the film. 170 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: There's a great moment as well. 171 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: And the real star for me watching again is Billy 172 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: Bob Thornton. I loved him without him, and bear in 173 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: mind he was in the nineties, like the indie kind 174 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: of pin up style Wars. Now I think he did 175 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: Slingshot a couple of years after this, which is a 176 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: great movie. Bruce Willis is proper Hollywood. You know he 177 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: was about to go on and do a couple of 178 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: other big movies. He's just done all the Diehard movies. 179 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: He is amazing in this. 180 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: I don't think it's his best role. If he really 181 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: turns his nose up and arm again, that's a sad, 182 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: sad reality. 183 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: I was interviewing about one of the later die Hard 184 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: movies where they were rubbish, right, and just as at 185 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: the at the end of the interview when essentially packing up, 186 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: I went and I wasn't taking the. 187 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: Mickel I went, I really enjoyed arm again. Right. 188 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: He didn't even look up. He was looking at his 189 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: shoe and he went on this. He put his hand 190 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: up like talking to her, and he went, I did 191 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: it for the money. Oh, I know, I meant it. 192 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: I like it. I really tried. I was absolutely cut it. 193 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 3: I think you should be proud of that. That's your 194 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: finest movie. 195 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: But there's a bit where basically the world of America 196 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: needs these renegade oil riggers and they will give into 197 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: any of their demands. And Bruce Willis, it's a great scene, 198 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: reads out the list of their demands and they've gotten 199 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: over a barrel and all about. They literally need them 200 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: to sign and say yes, they'll do it. They've made 201 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: a few requests such as, ask her here has got 202 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: some outstanding parking tickets. 203 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: Max would like you to bring back eight track tapes. 204 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: That's sure, it's gonna work. 205 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: You have one more thing. None of them want to 206 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 3: pay taxes. Again, this comes up a lot in the movie. 207 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: They just don't want to pay taxes. It's like, what 208 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: are we learning from this? 209 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: Now? They track down tax torches in this movie. They 210 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: cell about people that just don't want to pay taxes anybody. 211 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: They could have demanded, they could have essentially had a 212 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: blank check in front of them. We're the only people 213 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: who can save the earth. Pay us whatever you want. No, 214 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 2: we'll just do it if we don't have to pay 215 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: taxes again. 216 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: Check out Armaged in this week right if you're looking 217 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: for something to watch. 218 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: Christian Connell's Show podcast