WEBVTT - RHOBH - RECAP - WEEK 10 - ALANA MCLEAN 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.680 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:04.600 TV Reload the podcast last week never night. Hey guys, 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:06.640 welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:09.800 for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Alana MacLean, 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:12.959 my bestie from the Westy of Australia, who is the 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:18.520 definition of a housewife expert who I absolutely love catching 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:20.960 up with each week, we go deep on the tenth 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:24.639 episode of Beverly Hills season fourteen, which is called Sweet 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.640 Home Augusta and I make a bit of a revelation 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.080 as to why this week's episode is the very essence 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:35.040 of what I like about this flagship version of the franchise. 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.080 We will discuss the way on which this episode launches 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.400 with the montage that shines a light on the holistic 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.720 version of what's been happening to Pekan Derite in their 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:45.960 time on this series. 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:48.360 I will get Alana's perspective. 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:51.320 On Kyle Richards's current state of play with her marriage breakdown. 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:55.320 We will address the choice from Bravo to have Kathy 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.520 have a dinner party with Garcel, Durret and Bosma and 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.200 why that seems to be a new way that we 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.959 are now seeing Kathy Hilton. You will also get plenty 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.600 of chat on Sudden and her lack of inclusion with 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:09.520 all the women, what we thought of. 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.280 Sutton's mum, and why. 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.000 That gift from Garcel allowed us to see Sudden in 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.560 a way that we've never seen before. There's actually so 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.800 much to talk about, with so many inside revelations, So guys, 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:24.000 sit back and relax as we unpack the wonderful world 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:27.440 of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hill Season fourteen, episode ten, 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.080 Where are you TALKI? 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:34.760 Oh, my goodness, Surf Coast life? Do you want to 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:35.640 brow my hair for that? 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.560 You look like every single person that is I'm looking 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:43.200 at the window right now and there's five Alana McLean's. 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:44.360 They all have the same hair. 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:46.760 I'll go get my surfboard. 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.240 This is how you look so youthful. You look so. 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.720 Young salt therapy. Your hair is looking fabulous too, my love. 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.040 This is chaos down here at the moment today because 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:56.440 it's Ben's fortieth. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.800 Oh my god, he's forty of I don't realize that 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:03.520 this is actual forty. That's so exciting, What a milestone. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:05.800 He's been really depressed all week because of the fact 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.200 that he's leaving his thirties to go into the forties. 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.000 But like, I don't know what it's wrong with me. 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:11.200 I don't like I'm forty. 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.000 I'm turning forty five next week, and I'm like, I 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.040 don't care. I'm like, it doesn't really bother me how 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:16.760 old I'm getting. 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:20.360 Do you tell him that Kyle Richard's only got cast 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.760 on the show when she was forty, And I quite 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:26.080 often hold on to that because I feel like, well, 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:27.760 you know, life can start at forty. 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:29.960 You know, she looked like a foot when she turned 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.519 up on that show, and she is. She is now 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:33.760 Chef's Kiss. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.760 And I love when I see those memes of like 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.360 when everyone looks better and it says just a reminder 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.840 that you're not ugly, you're just poor. 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.800 Something in this week's episode, maybe think I've been living 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.639 my life wrong, and that is that I would give 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:51.160 away all of my life experiences just to have one 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.959 room in my house that looks like Sutton Strat's house 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:57.200 in Augusta, Like, oh those. 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:02.360 Rooms, yeah, oh that house be beautiful. The money, like 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.440 she's bat she crazy ninety nine percent of the time, 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:06.840 but the money, what. 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:07.600 Would you prefer to be? 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:13.080 Would you prefer to be rich and lacking self awareness 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.280 like sudden Yes, I picked that. 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.360 One because she's having a great time. She doesn't know 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.360 that she's fucking off the dial. She's having a great 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.639 time with their random comments and cutting people off when 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.079 they're having a breakdown, and she doesn't care. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.119 We wouldn't be doing this podcast if you were certain strat. 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:34.079 Even in the lightest I would block your number. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.839 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd be blocking yours too. 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.680 We open this episode with a montage of Derete and 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:45.360 PK's relationship recap, like an episode recap of married at 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.320 First sight, Like the editing of the way they put 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:52.720 that together. It was like bang bang bang, explosive, Like 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.960 everything that you saw was polarizing because one thing I 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.000 will say about the two of them is that their 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.160 relationship has always seemed a little too bizarre to me, 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:02.760 do you know what I mean? Like a little bit odd, 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.600 because they're either grandstanding their relationship and saying, you know, 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.800 kind of cringe worthy standing up and reading out letters 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.480 of love. You know, all of that stuff has always 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.880 been kind of polarizing to them. What we're seeing now, 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:19.320 which is also polarizing because who the hell is sharing 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:23.360 this much about a marriage breakdown on television, Well, I just. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.960 I couldn't agree more. I think that starting it in 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:31.160 such a dramatic way in the sound effects, I was like, whoa, Like, 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:32.320 we're in for a ride. 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.599 As I stand here tonight, welcome in our friends and family, 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:42.320 It's an opportunity for me to confess publicly. Oh baby, 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.400 it's you, baby, and you alone. Let's go through this 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:49.080 world together in love. You look unbelievable, You look radiant, 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.760 You look gracious, Jagga, what. 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:52.480 Do you think son? 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.039 Yes or no? What do you think? Yes? 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:59.200 I can conquer the world with just one hand, as 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.160 long as your old the other one. 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:02.760 PK. 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.520 You bring a lot of color and purpose to my life, 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.560 a life that is seemingly impossible to live if you 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.960 weren't by my side. I'm just thinking about my huve 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.680 and to thead of my life, to the king of 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.000 my dreams and the mate of my soul. 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:23.680 So we need our bailves. That's address I would expect 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:24.159 you to wear. 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.000 We got it right the first time around. I don't 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:27.120 want to like tempt face. 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:31.280 See I can't stand if that wasn't it. 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.839 Okay, we had a really difficult year he was spending 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:39.480 a lot of time in London, and it. 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:40.880 Was a year that I needed him the most. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.839 You have been through a really traumatic thing, and also 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.359 you have a lot of fear in you that isn't rational. 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:50.520 And there are also elements that I don't consider our PTSD. 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:52.880 I consider they're more obnoxious. 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.000 I started to feel like, is it possible pequn I 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:56.840 would not make it. 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.680 When I first met Dreik, she was not quite as 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.200 high maintenance as she is now. 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:07.080 Now now, I mean, hats off to the editors this season, 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.040 because I feel the way that they have been including 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:14.200 a lot of these rollback footage clips, have actually added 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.920 so much to the story. Because you do you forget? 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.400 I mean, some people, you know, watch it a million 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.320 times over like me and watch all the old ones, 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.800 But if you are just watching it one week at 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.560 a time, you do you forget. They did have these 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.800 big birthday parties for each other, They did say these things. 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.039 They were lovey dovey that we thought of and so 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.680 it is it's important to sort of see that back 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:40.200 to then see the juxtaposition of how far it's fallen 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.040 and where we are now, and it makes it land 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.920 differently because you've seen that footage at the start, So 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.560 I mean it is like watching a whole different storyline 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:54.240 play out in terms of the relationship and the personalities 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:55.160 within it. 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.320 Imagine if we had rollbacks with in real time, like 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:03.680 our real lives, we'd be like canceled. But I mean 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.599 it is hard when you're seeing it all rolled back 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.240 into a package like that for those two. And you know, 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.360 I don't know whether or not they you know, I 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.320 was talking to a housewife at an opening last week. 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.880 I'm sure Petti Flow won't mind me saying this from Melbourne, 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.160 and she revealed that she never watched any of her episodes. 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.360 She's still not seen any of it. Yeah, it would 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.640 be sad. The episodes two days in advance, which is 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.000 what they apparently do with the housewise to give them 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.600 enough time to blog or do interviews. But Petti Flow 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:32.360 was like, I don't I never watched any of it. 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.280 I said I would be watching it, but I was there, 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.560 so I wouldn't watch it. I just wonder whether or 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.040 not there's a therapist sitting next to p K and 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:43.160 Dereite separately whilst they watched this series back, Because this 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.000 is opening a whole lot of can of worms that 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:46.400 would be very hard to process. 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:47.320 I could imagine. 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.040 Well, I mean not to cut too far forward, but 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:53.440 where we saw her basically say that he wasn't a 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:58.160 good father, I thought, whoa. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.720 I think he's a very good father. Am I correct wrong? 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.960 There are times that I think Picky's the greatest father 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.440 in the world. But is he the most hands on father? 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.920 The truth is no. She's since gone on the after 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:09.680 show and said, look, I was angry. It was the 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:11.640 heat of the moment. I do think he's a good father, 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:13.680 but she sort of alluded to the fact that he 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.560 wasn't hands on. That he's a good father in other ways. 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.360 But I just thought that is where it's going to 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:22.800 get very ugly and irreparable, when you start bringing the 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.200 kids into it, and there's just certain things you can't 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.560 take back. And we thought it was ugly when she 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.720 started by admitting he was an alcoholic. 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:31.200 He's a bad father. 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.120 Like the list goes on, and like, you sent me 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:35.640 a message the other day and I might have been 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:37.320 drinking because I read it back and I thought it 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.440 was a bit harsh. But you sent me a clip 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.040 of a part of this, you know, And I said, 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.680 I hate her. I think it's a really strong word. 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.560 But I've got friends that are currently going through divorce 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.679 and it is a really hard space to navigate, and 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.760 it is a really personal thing to do as well. 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.960 And the one thing I've learned from being a bystander 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.640 of it is that it's a very dangerous space to 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.960 be shaming the other person. And all of these people 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.840 I know, I've got children, so like, shouldn't Derete and 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.680 PK be protecting the children by not talking about it. 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.040 PK's been on a podcast which I said to you 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:14.160 this week, you know, and he has rebutted a lot 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:15.960 of this stuff, And the only thing I took from 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.160 his rebuttal was you should chut your mouth. 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:23.079 So Duit's lack of understanding about sobriety is not her fault. 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.640 She hasn't invested in it, and it's not something you know. 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.760 She hasn't worked a program and hasn't done what I've done. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:32.360 So there is no fully blown alcoholic. You're either an 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.319 alcoholic or you're not right. And I felt that some 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:41.760 of those descriptions, which obviously my alcoholism, had an element 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.920 of responsibility in relation to the breakdown of our marriage, 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:46.800 but that was just a component. 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.600 I don't know. It's a hard one in that Durite 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.320 has signed up to do this show. It's a reality show. 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.440 We really put the hard word on them to be 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:58.720 honest about their real lives. And when they don't, and 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.679 when we feel like we're not seen it, we are 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.040 angry at that as a viewer. And you know, you 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.200 and I have spoken about Sutton, which actually, ironically enough, 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:08.920 we did start to see some of her real life 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.520 this episode. But you know, so I feel like she's 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:15.440 been put into this place. She's also been protecting him 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.560 for all these years, as we have since found out. 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.160 But also I sort of feel like, don't forget. P 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.760 K is a talent manager. He is very well versed 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.720 in the world of pr. He is very well versed 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:32.080 in creating hype, shaping narrative, doing all those things. Remember 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.040 when Erica Jane was in the midst of her sort 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.520 of legal turmoil and was posting all these sexy shots 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.000 on Instagram and he was like, she shouldn't be doing that, 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.160 she should be doing this. Don't forget. He knows what 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.720 to do. You know, whether she's gone too far potentially, 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.520 but don't forget if he's recognizing that she's going all 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.200 the way to the left, he's going to go, well, 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.000 I'm going to go to the right and let her 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.400 kind of hang herself out to drive, because then he 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.040 gets to look like the nice guy, even if it's 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.480 potentially not true, just by shutting it up. 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.160 You're right, I didn't think about it, like his silence 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.920 up until that podcast that I saw. It's worked in 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:08.920 his favor because if you look at the time, it's 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.480 turned with the comments on social media where people are 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.920 saying that Dauri's saying way too much in poor p K. 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:15.599 Do you know what I mean? And like, at the 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.520 end of the day, PK is not a great guy. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.200 Like from all of this, it's hard because we don't 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.560 know as a viewer, Like she's saying she got this 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.719 horrible email. It was seven pages long that I've heard 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.280 in some interviews it was nine pages long. 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:33.000 And taking she's sing. 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.040 Taking a lot of it on face value. I do 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.200 I do believe who when I say they had a 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:41.280 toxic relationship and that he was horrible to her. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:42.640 But she signed up for this, Alana. 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:44.720 I will say this and I don't know it, but 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:46.720 this is how I feel she signed up for this 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:50.000 relationship because she signed up for the money, right like, 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.360 as in, she wants to be with PK because he 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.920 afforded her this lifestyle. And this is what happens to 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.320 women who sign up to be in a relationship with 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.679 a man for money, is that the love isn't there. 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:02.760 It's going to go toxic. He's going to. 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.720 Feel abused, he's going to feel like she's only there 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.320 for the cash. And to me, with all the seasons 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.760 we've seen a top wearing all of those expensive clothes, 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:13.000 she's been bleeding this man dry for years, Like, well. 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.880 I don't see it that way. I feel like, yes, 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.840 she might have married him for money initially, but where 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.160 he's gotten pissed off and over it is because her 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:25.400 fame and her status is now outshining him and he's 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.920 got the shits as a man who is now suffering 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.880 from that power dynamic shift. And he's trying to get 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.040 out before the ten years, as Erica says, because then 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.040 he won't have to pay up the full amount and 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.120 probably get it on with some younger chick that needs 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.920 him again so he can feel needed. Whereas I feel 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.720 like with her, she's sort of made her own way, 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.760 and we've seen it a lot of the Bravo franchise 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:52.080 with these relationships, the dynamic ships, with this level of 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.880 fame and this level of your own income and your 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.959 own you know, she's booked, she's busy, she's doing all 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.960 these things. And what's he doing? Take around boy, George, 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:02.520 I don't even know if he's still doing that. 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.199 There's not going to be a PK reality show. Even 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.160 when he was on this show and we got to 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:09.839 see a lot of him in comparison to some of 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.920 the other husbands, he was a bit sort of he 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.640 gives me the eck like he just looks a bit thirsty. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.000 Yeah, I'm sure he was, and that's why he signed. 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.520 He made Durite sign up to do this show. He 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.520 talked her into it. So don't be mad at the 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.720 monster that you've created when you've been the one to 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:31.160 create the Frankenstein to use the analogy. So she's sort 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.240 of been doing her thing. And I'm not saying she 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.520 isn't a fault, and we haven't heard about her sort 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.560 of part in all this behind the scenes, but I 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:42.080 just feel like his silence is sort of letting him 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.320 be seen a little bit more like the victim now, 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.760 and I don't necessarily think that's the case. I think 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.440 she has been blindsided. I think he's trying to wipe 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.520 her out clean before this ten years. I think he's 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:56.440 trying to be aggressive about it and hope that she 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.520 just goes, okay, well, I'll just get this whole thing 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.960 done quickly, so he probably wins, you know, and he 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:03.640 doesn't have to give her the money. I don't know, 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:07.920 but something in there is very messy, and we're watching 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:09.360 it unfold for sure, and. 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.560 She secured that diamond, which is exactly what she wanted 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:13.960 to do. So like she's gonna be on this show 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.000 for another four years. I mean, this season is the 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.120 season of dereite, Like you know, no matter how which 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.200 way you look at it, even with Kyle Richard's relationship 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.160 marriage coming to an end, this is still the season 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.720 of Derete. What sort of leveled up this episode for 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.960 me and why I really liked it was there was 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.000 a bit of warmth between Kyle and Moritzio, and that 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.200 I really enjoyed because I wonder whether or not this 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.880 could be the new normal of a relationship coming to 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.479 an end. I mean, wouldn't it be nice. I'm assuming 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.640 that Kyle's always curated a narrative for all of us 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.000 to understand about her marriage, and maybe she's now curating 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.960 an idealistic version of what a separation could look like. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.720 But the two of them taking the time to go 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:59.160 and fire the gun and have those conversations was really mature, 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.960 I thought. And it made me think two things. Could 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.080 they get back together? And the other thing is is 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:11.320 this a really good way to separate and to maintain friendship? 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:15.040 Yeah, it's pretty heartbreaking watching Kyle do these confessionals now 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.200 where she's realizing she's really lonely. She's living in that 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.240 house and the girls are grown up and they're not 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.840 necessarily there. And now Pusha's got a driver's license, so 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:23.360 she's out. 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:27.760 It's a very big life adjustment to live your life 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:31.320 a certain way for decades. It really is grieving the 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:36.680 last of someone who's still here. She's obviously something's happened, 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.640 She's gone. That is the final straw, get out. I 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:40.520 am done. 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.560 And then she's had her crazy you know, fleeing with 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.200 Morgan or whatever the hell happened there, And now she's 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:48.440 in that place where she's like, oh, I don't know 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:52.360 if the grass is greener over this side. But unfortunately, 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:54.880 I think he's like cool, all right, no worries, and 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:58.800 he's moved on. I think it's lovely that they're still friends. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:03.760 But to Erica's point, they haven't filed for divorce yet, 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.720 they haven't used the divorce word yet. They are living 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.320 as a separated couple, and they're living their own lives. 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:13.000 When that starts to come into the equation, which it will, 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.920 it's inevitable unless they get back together. But if they 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.800 go down this road of continued separation, at some point, 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:21.640 that's going to be on the table, and I feel 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.440 like it will change. Like Erica said, there is no 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.920 woman I know that's had a peaceful divorce unless the 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.120 guy died. It's all kind of a little bit heartbreaking 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.520 and poignant and reflective and nice now, but I don't 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.320 necessarily think that's going to be the case moving forward. 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.840 Do you think that there's a possibility of them ever 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.480 being able to reconcilet Have you ever known anyone in 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:46.800 a relationship that's separated or broken up that have recoupled 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.480 that are still together, Like I kind of feel like 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:53.040 if you if you say those words, out loud. I 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.360 feel like it's almost impossible ever to have a relationship 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.160 that works ever again, I mean it's even white, not 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.120 that in no one cares about my personal life or 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.920 my opinion really, but it's even why I've never said 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.240 that with Ben. I've been with him for fifteen years. 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.520 We've never said, like, even in heated arguments, I've never 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.520 said that's it, I'm over and I'm walking out. And 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.520 that's because I know that when you say those sorts 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.040 of things, it's done. 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:20.560 Yeah, I'm with you. I haven't gone back once once 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:22.960 it's been you know, but some people have. And I 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:24.960 think if we look at Salt Lake City, you know, 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.960 Meredith had that separation from Seth, they're back together. Yes, 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.960 their relationship seems a bit you know, strange bonker, but 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.360 himself it can happen. I don't know if it will 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.160 happen with Kyle and Mauricio. I think I think they're 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:41.320 just in different places. And I think probably that's what 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.800 the core of the issue was. He's been traveling a lot, 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.920 he's been opening all these new agencies. He still likes 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.399 that party lifestyle. He likes to be out and about. 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.200 She doesn't want that and you mentioned it the other week. 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.680 You know, maybe he's just been picking other things over 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:59.000 her and she's had the final straw, and so I think, yes, 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.440 she still loves him, She would love that family unit 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.080 to be together, but I think she had to make 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.720 a stand for herself. She did it, and this is 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.680 where we are, and I don't necessarily know if there's 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.080 a path back. I would like to see it, but 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:12.640 I just don't think it's going to happen. 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.000 I think a majority of viewers that would be watching 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:17.560 this show would be rooting for something like that. You know, 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.480 Gussel and Kyle being asked by Sutton to go to 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:23.199 Augusta this week really didn't land well for a lot 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:26.680 of the viewers, especially with myself considering that it felt 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:30.000 like a segregation of the group like Sutton has entered 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.280 this season with trying to talk about female dynamics and 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:36.040 uniting the group as a whole. But the only person 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:39.520 that has really done any damage further down that path 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.480 has been Sudden and like even to not invite Jennifer 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:47.280 Tilly on this particular weekend seem like an odd choice 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.880 as well. I don't know, how did you feel when 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.080 you see those mixed messages being sent out clearly by 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.760 only inviting two women to go home and meet the mother. 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.679 First of all, when she did all that sisterhood stuff, 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:00.840 I was like, you are full of shit. This is 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:04.800 just another moment where she's just she's in one headspace 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:06.840 and she goes gung ho at it. But then the 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:09.880