WEBVTT - Cath & Theo - MASTERCHEF AUSTRALIA - Reality TV Contestants

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload, the podcast last week. They Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload. As you may know, my name is Benjamin

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<v Speaker 1>Norris and this is your podcast to get all the

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<v Speaker 1>inside goss on the popular TV shows you may be

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<v Speaker 1>watching from around the world. Undeniably, our TV sets are

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<v Speaker 1>a major part of our home entertainment, and yet very

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<v Speaker 1>little is known about how our favorite shows get made.

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<v Speaker 1>So each episode I've been finding guests, but want to

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<v Speaker 1>or a comment on your chosen podcast platform. This episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the podcast, I'm joined by Kath and Theo. This

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<v Speaker 1>week's eliminated cooks from mastershef Australia, who fairly stated were

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<v Speaker 1>two of the most popular personalities this year. Caath Collins

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<v Speaker 1>is a fifty four year old administration manager from Victoria

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<v Speaker 1>who was ready to start her dreams and take on

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<v Speaker 1>the culinary world by storm. She is a self taught

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<v Speaker 1>cook with the love of all types of food. With

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<v Speaker 1>over one hundred cookbooks, Kath proved to us this season

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<v Speaker 1>that she has a passion for cooking. My other guest,

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<v Speaker 1>Theo Lazoo, is a thirty seven year old electrician from Victoria.

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<v Speaker 1>His parents came to Australia with nothing, with his mom

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<v Speaker 1>from Greece and his dad from Cyprus. Theo has a

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<v Speaker 1>deep affinity for the food and culture of his ancestral

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<v Speaker 1>history and grew up learning from both his parents and

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<v Speaker 1>his grandparents in the kitchen. Both of these contestants today

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<v Speaker 1>are just awesome. And while you might have looked and

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<v Speaker 1>seen that this is a long episode, I guarantee you

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to love the way that these two

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<v Speaker 1>share their story. I will find out how Cath coped

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<v Speaker 1>with the loss of Jock, and I will hear about

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<v Speaker 1>the pact that the cast made to get through this

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<v Speaker 1>season on television. Theo will talk about his upbringing and

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<v Speaker 1>how some tough love shaped him into being the man

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<v Speaker 1>that he is today. You will hear how the relationships

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<v Speaker 1>form behind the scenes from both Kaf and thea SO

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll find out if Master Chef has changed their

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<v Speaker 1>lives forever. Plus we will also get plenty of exclusives

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<v Speaker 1>from behind the scenes of MasterChef Australia, which is currently

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<v Speaker 1>on Network ten and you can now catch up on

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<v Speaker 1>ten Play if you've fallen just that little bit behind. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>let's bring Kath into the podcast first, and guys, I

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<v Speaker 1>really hope you enjoy this heartwarming episode of TV reload.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Cath, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good? Thanks, Ben.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you are what TV producers call perfect casting.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, okay, that's kind thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think because you know, reality TV has always worked

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<v Speaker 1>best when we as an audience can see ourselves on television,

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<v Speaker 1>and when we watch you on television, there's something very

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<v Speaker 1>magical that happens. I mean, I feel like Australia has

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<v Speaker 1>related to you in a really powerful way.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh look, I remember being back in the some of

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<v Speaker 2>the auditions and cooking and our just remember the home

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<v Speaker 2>and saying to my husband that was the most fun

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<v Speaker 2>I have had personally for a very long time. And

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<v Speaker 2>I remember in you know, one of my first audition cooks,

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<v Speaker 2>I was running around crazy and remember saying to one

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<v Speaker 2>of the producers, I am crazy, and he said, Kath,

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<v Speaker 2>we love crazy, so look I and look for me.

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<v Speaker 2>No filter once that time was gone, once they see

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<v Speaker 2>your time starts. Now it was like an aud of

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<v Speaker 2>body experience. I just went with whatever it was going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen. I had no control.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's I think what we like is. You know

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when you see people go on television, and producers

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<v Speaker 1>will even say this to contestants, like, if you've got

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<v Speaker 1>an idea of how you want to control the way

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<v Speaker 1>that people see you, audiences will work that out. It

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<v Speaker 1>seemed very real to me that you were just being

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<v Speaker 1>yourself working out how to do the best job in

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<v Speaker 1>a kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Absolutely, and the producers never said anything there was

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<v Speaker 2>they said one thing. And I remember actually one of

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<v Speaker 2>the early episodes where I had some really great feedback

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<v Speaker 2>and actually put my hand on my mouth to stop

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<v Speaker 2>saying wow, because of course I had, you know, seen

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I had said wow, which I hadn't realized

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<v Speaker 2>actually that I had said it so often. So with

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<v Speaker 2>some of the other contestants we had a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a joke about it, so I thought, oh goodness, so

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<v Speaker 2>I actually, you know, I did stop myself and they

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<v Speaker 2>said to me, did someone say something to you CAF afterwards?

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<v Speaker 2>And they said, do not worry about what you say.

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<v Speaker 2>You just be you and that was it. So I

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<v Speaker 2>never worried, you know, from that point on, and so

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<v Speaker 2>whatever came just came.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so funny. I remember doing radio and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, you can't say certain words, and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember what it was. It was something that I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know that I said, but it was like my

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<v Speaker 1>go to word of like a pivot, like almost like

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<v Speaker 1>saying I would say this word.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I've got to the point where I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>remember what that word was and it's completely gone. So

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<v Speaker 1>I've been cured. Maybe you could be cured of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, there you go, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I also thought that, you know, I don't know whether

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<v Speaker 1>you'd heard any of my interviews, but I've been chatting

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of people. I can't remember who it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but I asked someone, do you think Cauf's accent has

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<v Speaker 1>gotten stronger as the series has gone on? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>notice while watching it back how strong the Australian accent

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<v Speaker 1>was and what was your relationship with hearing yourself back

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<v Speaker 1>on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it did surprise me. Actually, I really thought initially

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<v Speaker 2>when I heard myself, I was totally surprised and I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I sounded like a really aussy bogan. No, and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see myself as that, and I thought, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my goodness, kat Look. But I did get used to

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<v Speaker 2>hearing myself and I didn't hear that so much. But

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<v Speaker 2>I did receive a fair few messages on Instagram asking

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<v Speaker 2>where my accent was from. So I just said I'm

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<v Speaker 2>from Melbourne. So and someone from the States. They said

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<v Speaker 2>that they were having problems understanding Rhiannon and.

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<v Speaker 1>I, wow, I did not. Maybe because I'm from Melbourne,

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<v Speaker 1>I speak Melbourne. You go.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Ipeak Melbourne is Master Chef Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>The only reality TV show that you've ever really entertained

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, that's it. It's the only show. It's always been well,

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<v Speaker 2>a magical show for me and for my daughters, for

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<v Speaker 2>our family. It always been a positive show. So there

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<v Speaker 2>was Yeah, there was never any doubt that this would

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<v Speaker 2>be the only one.

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<v Speaker 1>I did love the fact that you were attributing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of your time in the kitchen to your girls.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was really sweet while watching the show back.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you always watching it with them? And was their

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<v Speaker 1>tears watching the showback that their mum was so proud

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<v Speaker 1>of them and attributing so much of her hard work

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<v Speaker 1>to them.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely so. I have one of my youngest is actually

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<v Speaker 2>overseays at the moment, so we watched just a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of it together. But my eldest daughter, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>every night and my husband, we've been watching it and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, especially last night, you know, Alexander's twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>but she was snuggling up to me like a little

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<v Speaker 2>girl watching it and how we're used to when she

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<v Speaker 2>was younger, and you know, we were very teary and

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<v Speaker 2>emotional about it. And I'm even emotional now because just

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<v Speaker 2>saying that, Yeah, last night was all about them.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I felt emotional. Calf. I felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted a hug from you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a large part of you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>magic of you. This season has just been you know,

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<v Speaker 1>watching you on Masterschef Australia. This series feels like a

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<v Speaker 1>warm hug from our own mums, do you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's something very.

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<v Speaker 1>Magical about the ability to put your heart and soul

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<v Speaker 1>and your true emotion into this that makes us just

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<v Speaker 1>want to give you a hug.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this season we've seen more everyday Australians take on

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<v Speaker 1>the competition. You know, we've had some All Star seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen some people who have taken their Master Chef

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<v Speaker 1>journey and extended it, but this really stripped it back

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<v Speaker 1>to being able to see people who probably were more

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<v Speaker 1>aspirational getting into the kitchen. What about you, what are

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on what works for the Master Chef. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you like to see people who are more experienced in

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen or do you like to see the everyday

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<v Speaker 1>Australians take it on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this season's been really lovely and stripping it

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<v Speaker 2>back to that, So for me, I think that's been

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<v Speaker 2>part of the magic of this season. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>love that side of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I like it as well, like it's different,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I loved seeing Sashi and some of the big

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<v Speaker 1>Julie goodwhen. I'd love seeing some of those names come

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<v Speaker 1>back into the kitchen and find out exactly what they've

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<v Speaker 1>done with the Master Chef experience. But then this series

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<v Speaker 1>just feels like people who want to give this a

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<v Speaker 1>go and see where the cooking experience might take them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, so I did find it and I did love,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, watching last season with Julie goodwhen and it

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<v Speaker 2>is exciting. As someone who's always loved Master Chef, I

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<v Speaker 2>did love that. So I think it's a really good mix. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>so this season though, you know, I'm lucky because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>part of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Do you know we need to ask the producers

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<v Speaker 1>if we can do like a like a Julie Goodwin

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<v Speaker 1>Award of the Year, because I feel like you've got

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<v Speaker 1>that one in the bag, and then we should look

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<v Speaker 1>for the Julie Goodwin of the Year every year.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be gorgeous actually, and I loved Julie coming

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<v Speaker 2>in the kitchen. I reached out to Julie when the

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<v Speaker 2>episode was coming up. Julie reached out to me. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been really lovely actually.

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<v Speaker 1>So sorry to jump in. I'm like, what is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, even last night, you know, a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>messages Julie just said okay, just you know, feeling so

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<v Speaker 2>emotional and teary for you, and then coming back again

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<v Speaker 2>and saying how beautiful was it with your girls? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>And it is true when you when they say you're

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<v Speaker 2>part of the Master Chef family. I really feel that

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<v Speaker 2>because I've had lots of messages from previous contestants. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was up in Darwin a couple of weeks ago

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<v Speaker 2>visiting Robbie. We went to Monoli's restaurant. We met up

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<v Speaker 2>with Dan from who was semi finalists last year, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just there's something about it. I'm just feeling really lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>You do sort of fit into like an instant family

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<v Speaker 1>of these people, and like, even if they're not from

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<v Speaker 1>your series, there's like an unspoken bond that seems to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and if you're not a part of it,

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<v Speaker 1>people looking in don't really understand it. Like even my

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<v Speaker 1>partner would be like, why would you go and hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with someone from a different series that you know

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a part of us. Isn't that a little weird?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, no, it's like we're dolphins that speak

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<v Speaker 1>in a language, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is exactly that, exactly. So it's yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>I say, I've had messages from different people from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>different seasons, so that's been a pleasant surprise actually, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's if you ever need anything, even need any help,

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<v Speaker 2>just reach out. So that's lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess if you're sort of like the people's princess,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess in this series, I feel like Declan's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like very well celebrated from the boys side of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Was you know he was the first person in the

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<v Speaker 1>finals week? Did you think he was the most deserving

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<v Speaker 1>of that spot or is that hard to even put

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<v Speaker 1>that together?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, look, it's easy for me to say, yes, he's

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<v Speaker 2>deserving at that spot. So Declan has had an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>journey from right from the start. You know, just how

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful he is, how emotionally intelligent he is, how caring

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<v Speaker 2>he is. Just you know, we had our rooms beside

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<v Speaker 2>each other, is Ray and I and it was Declan

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<v Speaker 2>and Robbie. So we would go in out of each

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<v Speaker 2>other's rooms, have cups of tea, share food, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>here we are the three oldies and Declin. That was

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<v Speaker 2>our little group. You know, we always fought over Declan.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, who's our adopted son. And you know I'd

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<v Speaker 2>always be putting my hand up saying it's me. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>his mommy, his mum. I haven't got any boys, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>He always wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, he is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he rang me yesterday. He's respect to his mum.

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<v Speaker 2>When I think, you know, it's two o'clock and I think, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder how Declan is, and I'll just think, I

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<v Speaker 2>know he's at work, I'll ring his mum. So we

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<v Speaker 2>have a beautiful relationship with everyone's families.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, that's so sweet. Well, last night we

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<v Speaker 1>got to see you cooking with some very polarizing ingredients.

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<v Speaker 1>I love anchovies that I know a lot of people don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't particularly like dijon mustard, so that's I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there's always a bit of a polarizing mustard. How

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<v Speaker 1>did you go with those ingredients? I mean, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it would have been different had you had anchovies?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what was happening in your mind when you're

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<v Speaker 1>playing it all back?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh goodness, Yeah, I was really taken aback that it

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<v Speaker 2>was dujon mustard because I had cooked with diujon mustard

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<v Speaker 2>early in the competition. I was just a bit taken aback,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think I was a bit shaken by that actually,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was just a bit shocked. So whilst I

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<v Speaker 2>was really happy with my dish, and I was really

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<v Speaker 2>pleased that I did fish, and yeah, I was really

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<v Speaker 2>pleased with that. But of course I was feeling confident

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<v Speaker 2>going to the second round because I was quite happy

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<v Speaker 2>with my first dish. So my second dish, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like it just whilst I had quite a clear vision

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<v Speaker 2>at the start, I had never completely, you know, made

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<v Speaker 2>this dish before, so it was, you know, a concept

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<v Speaker 2>dessert that I had in my mind, and I chose

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<v Speaker 2>to do it then, and it was in the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I think, you know, in hindsight it

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<v Speaker 2>was the wrong decision.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess that was what I was thinking. When

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about it. You were like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make you know, a dish that's a dessert

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<v Speaker 1>with Australian native ingredients and I was like, yep, great

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<v Speaker 1>that that is. Talking to the judges and what they

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<v Speaker 1>were and I was like, this is great. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you were like, I've never made wattle seed short bread

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<v Speaker 1>shortbread before with chocolate parfa and I was like why,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is that a part of the show that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to try and take a big risk to

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<v Speaker 1>win a bit of a mile? I mean, why would

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<v Speaker 1>you might not have cooked something that you knew very well.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing with Master Chef, Well, the thing

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<v Speaker 2>with my journey on Master Chef is because you just

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<v Speaker 2>put on the spot. And honestly, that is just what

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<v Speaker 2>my brain said to me. And that was just when

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<v Speaker 2>going into going into the pantry. That was just was

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<v Speaker 2>happening in my mind as I was going in there.

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<v Speaker 2>So again I just say that once they say your

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<v Speaker 2>time starts, now, I felt like I had no control

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<v Speaker 2>over what I was what I was or do we so.

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<v Speaker 1>That a body experience?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you know, I really enjoyed watching your food being made.

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed Roundo's food as well. With her food

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<v Speaker 1>being made, it will always looked really delicious. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>both get to try each other's food with those cooks,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what I wanted to know, whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>you while you're on the show, Can you sample other

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<v Speaker 1>people's food while they're making it?

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<v Speaker 2>No, you don't actually do that. So sometimes we try

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<v Speaker 2>and sneak in a little bit if you're cooking beside

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<v Speaker 2>each other, but generally no, you don't. Well, you just

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<v Speaker 2>shared what the experience afterwards? What did you do? What

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<v Speaker 2>did you do? You know, so we always, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>every night we'd have our cup of tea, you put

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<v Speaker 2>our feet up, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you can swap the notes. I just kept thinking

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<v Speaker 1>with it when as soon as she started putting the

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<v Speaker 1>anchovies into the chicken and then started making it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, crispy chicken anchovies. This sounds amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Ray was really happy afterwards, And again it was a

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<v Speaker 2>thing like an added body experience for Ray. When we

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<v Speaker 2>came out and you know, she told me what she'd cooked,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, oh my god, that sounds amazing. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what came over me, you know, so it Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we loved all those experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you at the stage of the competition, now that

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<v Speaker 1>you've come out, can you talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>fans online that are demanding for you and rhann and

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<v Speaker 1>to have your own cooking show. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>much you've read online, but people are like, if those

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<v Speaker 1>two ladies have a cooking show, I will watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. Have people reached out to you

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<v Speaker 1>at this stage to ask if you do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Look it was another girlfriend actually sent me the link

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<v Speaker 2>of the article talking about fans wanting Rey and I

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<v Speaker 2>to do a cooking show, and I had a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a chuckle to myself, and I sent the link

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<v Speaker 2>up to Rhiannon and just with some really laughing emoji,

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<v Speaker 2>said I imagine this, and we both, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>had a chat about it, and I said to her,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a dream actually that we did some episodes

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<v Speaker 2>in my kitchen. Then I came up and I did

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<v Speaker 2>some episodes in your kitchen in Queensland. Imagine that. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, imagine some people, you know, both of us,

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<v Speaker 2>with our excell I understand this.

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<v Speaker 1>They would, they would. I was reading all the comments,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I was reading stuff this morning about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just was you know, I started thinking. I

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<v Speaker 1>started visualizing this show. I mean, it could be something

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<v Speaker 1>as simple as having that little window into the kitchens

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<v Speaker 1>that you both both your women are cooking in. Or

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<v Speaker 1>it could be a bigger show, like I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you could go around and you could take

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<v Speaker 1>that show on tour.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I mean I would do imagine, you know, traveling

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<v Speaker 2>around doing it and meeting people, you know, communities, and

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<v Speaker 2>that would be that would be a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>We would just love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, you've got a fan here, so I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>better watch it. Yeah, we need any petitions being signed, then.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I feel like we can finally see a winner.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I wrong by saying this? Is obviously my personal opinion?

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<v Speaker 1>But is THEO looking more likely to be the person

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to win at this point of the competition?

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess my question too is how does it

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<v Speaker 1>feel in the kitchen at this point? Who is someone

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<v Speaker 1>that's sort of coming out of the top and looking

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<v Speaker 1>like they might win?

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<v Speaker 2>Goodness, so you think there's only four of them, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Brent's back to win. You know, he's right

0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.200
<v Speaker 2>from the start, he said that, So he's really focused.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a very clear, you know, cooking identity. Really

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<v Speaker 2>so I think that, you know, he's done very very

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<v Speaker 2>well for you. Oh look the bread man, he's just

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute delight. So he really wants to change his life.

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<v Speaker 2>Is an electrician and he doesn't want to be an electrician,

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<v Speaker 2>wants to be a bread boy. So Declan is just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, I've got Ree, my best buddy, Declan,

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<v Speaker 2>my adopted son. You know, I'm putting my money on

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<v Speaker 2>Rie and Declin to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Okay, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's because of love, you know, but it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it does cloud your judgment. I think when you're

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<v Speaker 1>in an experience like that, you know audiences might be

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<v Speaker 1>judging it on food, but for you, you've had like

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<v Speaker 1>this emotional connection with these people.

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<v Speaker 2>But also it is on any given day, So you

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<v Speaker 2>look at me last night made it just a really

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<v Speaker 2>just a poor decision and yeah that just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so you just don't know it is on the day too.

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<v Speaker 2>Any of them can win it. It's Joss, who is

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<v Speaker 2>it going to be on the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's really quite interesting because it's a competition where

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<v Speaker 1>we see big cooks go home just by one small mistake,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you've got four people now left in the competition,

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<v Speaker 1>there's very little in it. Like it could easily re

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<v Speaker 1>root itself. Is that a word? Reroute itself? Anyway? It

0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.880
<v Speaker 1>could go anywhere, It could go anyway, but anyway, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pleased to know who you think might be there in

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<v Speaker 1>the final two, which is interesting. I guess the best

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<v Speaker 1>thing to ask you at this point is has this

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<v Speaker 1>show changed your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Changed my life? I'm not sure that it's changed

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<v Speaker 2>my life, but it's just given me just so much

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<v Speaker 2>joy and that, you know, the joy that I've shared

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<v Speaker 2>with my family and friends, reconnected with people, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>reconnected with people. I've really looked after myself. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that that you know, emotionally, you know, nearly fifty five,

0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:14.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, menopausal woman, you know that, you know, which

0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:17.560
<v Speaker 2>is pretty hard being this age when you go through

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<v Speaker 2>you know, where where do I go to now? From

0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.120
<v Speaker 2>having older children and different phase of my life? So

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's been awesome. Is that really it's allowed

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<v Speaker 2>me to explore so I can now you know, still

0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.560
<v Speaker 2>have a new career at this age. So that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to, and that's really exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>We often do that in our lives, like we chapter

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<v Speaker 1>our lives and we're like, you know, what would be next?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think to be fifty four, turning fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>and having this master and doing so well, like do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Like you didn't just get

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, you did so well and then have

0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:56.280
<v Speaker 1>so many people obsessed with you, Like that's a great

0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.400
<v Speaker 1>thing to feel at fifty nearly fifty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, just so it is, you know, it is just

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<v Speaker 2>joyful and the man of messages that I've received, you

0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:09.879
<v Speaker 2>know obviously about my cooking, about you know, how I

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<v Speaker 2>looked after myself and my self talk, which I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>realize I spoke to myself so much, so that was

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<v Speaker 2>a surprise to me looking at it very I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I love her self talk. Well, my two best friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got these two best girlfriends that I've been friends

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<v Speaker 1>with for decades and they both do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's funny. We were only just talking about it

0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:30.960
<v Speaker 1>the other day. I think it's actually a really good

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<v Speaker 1>way of processing things. It's allowing you to think about

0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:36.480
<v Speaker 1>what's going on and sort of have that narrative going there.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's cute that you don't know that you're saying it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was just I remember rhann And saying to

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<v Speaker 2>me after a cook case she was talking to job

0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:46.800
<v Speaker 2>actually and she just said to oh my god, everyone

0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:50.800
<v Speaker 2>has to cook beside Kath at least once. She said oh,

0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:52.679
<v Speaker 2>she said that. I thought Kath was talking to me,

0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.720
<v Speaker 2>so I'd actually said how you're going, Swedie and she

0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.000
<v Speaker 2>said good, But I was actually talking to myself, which

0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:01.280
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize. I say, and she said, oh you're

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<v Speaker 2>going wow, And I said, oh, right, so I just said,

0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:06.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, he could, and do you know what, I

0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:10.240
<v Speaker 2>actually didn't realize that the which is a bit crazy naive,

0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:12.919
<v Speaker 2>that the judges could hear what we were saying. I

0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.199
<v Speaker 2>knew that we had a microphone on, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was like producer sort of stuff. And Joe

0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:21.359
<v Speaker 2>said to me, oh, cas, I can hear everything. You

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<v Speaker 2>narrate everything. You ask yourself questions and you answer them.

0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.840
<v Speaker 2>And I said, what can you hear me? He said, yes, Kat,

0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:33.200
<v Speaker 2>we can hear everything. So that was quite a funny moment.

0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.399
<v Speaker 1>You're being recorded for television. They aren't going to miss anything.

0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:41.880
<v Speaker 1>My partner doesn't like it though, Like so I obviously

0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.040
<v Speaker 1>lived with my two best friends for years, so I

0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:47.280
<v Speaker 1>just got used to that that they the narrating their

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<v Speaker 1>own story. But my partner's always like, we'll go away

0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.439
<v Speaker 1>for a weekend, and he gets really frustrated because he

0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:54.520
<v Speaker 1>tries to talk to them and they're not in a

0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:57.160
<v Speaker 1>state where they want it. They're not trying to engage,

0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:59.520
<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? And then they just

0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:02.080
<v Speaker 1>ignore him and he's like, what is that weird thing

0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that they do where they're unstacking the dishwasher and they're

0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:07.160
<v Speaker 1>talking to themselves anyway, not a sign of madness.

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:11.679
<v Speaker 2>Apparently, it's you're really resilient. Resilient people talk to themselves.

0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:14.040
<v Speaker 1>So there you're going, well, that's a beautiful thing to know.

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<v Speaker 1>This Has the series been an emotional sendoff for Jock?

0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this was an unseen thing that has really

0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:23.399
<v Speaker 1>come out of you know, came out of nobhe It

0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:25.960
<v Speaker 1>really shocked Australia in lots of ways, but no more

0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:28.040
<v Speaker 1>so than the people that would have been on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Has this been an emotional send off for Jock? And

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<v Speaker 1>how will you remember him?

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<v Speaker 2>It certainly has. I think just in the lead up

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<v Speaker 2>to the first episode, you know, it was just devastating

0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 2>news and we wondered, you know, how we would be

0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:48.840
<v Speaker 2>going watching the show, and I think one of the

0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, we've got a group, Chad and one of

0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:55.439
<v Speaker 2>the girls. Actually, you know, we all agreed that we

0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:59.280
<v Speaker 2>need to let ourselves celebrate the season and give ourselves

0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 2>permission to celebrate the season and what it was and

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:05.240
<v Speaker 2>to celebrate jobs. So I really say it, you know

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 2>that it's yeah, it's just in honor of job, that's

0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:11.639
<v Speaker 2>all I can say. Yeah, we're very lucky to cross

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 2>paths amazing.

0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think thank you for being able to talk

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 1>about it. It's funny. I feel like I should say

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 1>this to the people listening to the podcast, that I

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:21.560
<v Speaker 1>haven't chosen to speak about him until talking to you.

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 1>And I know this might sound a little bit strange,

0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:26.440
<v Speaker 1>but I guess it's that relationship that we have had

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:28.520
<v Speaker 1>watching the show with you, Like you know, when something

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 1>goes wrong, you want to ask your mum, and so

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, for me, I wanted to talk about

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:35.520
<v Speaker 1>that with you because I felt like, you know, like

0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:37.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in Australia, we want to talk

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 1>about it in a way, but we don't know who

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 1>to talk about it with. And I did really choose

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you to be able to have that conversation. So I

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you being able to share how that has gone

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:46.199
<v Speaker 1>for you.

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 3>I really do thank you.

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Thanks. So, what do you think you're going to do next?

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Have you thought about it? I might do a cooking show,

0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:56.879
<v Speaker 1>but like, what do you think is going to happen

0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 1>for you next? Do you have any ideas?

0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a little bit surreal. What is life after Master Chef?

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 2>So look, I've started on a book, so it's Cat's

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Kitchen from How to Wow. So it's just a collection

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:15.360
<v Speaker 2>of recipes that I've really shared with my daughters over

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:19.120
<v Speaker 2>the years. So that's something that I've whilst it's being

0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:22.639
<v Speaker 2>aired that it was, yes, so something to focus on,

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.199
<v Speaker 2>I suppose. So I'd love to do. I mean, a

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:28.639
<v Speaker 2>cooking show would be awesome. I'd love to really you know,

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 2>do some cooking classes with young people, with young kids,

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:35.200
<v Speaker 2>with young people with challenges. You know. I'd love to

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 2>give back, you know. Jock always said that that's really important.

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to be working with young people. I love

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.360
<v Speaker 2>high tea, so that was always one of my dreams.

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 2>So to maybe team up with a venue or do

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:49.919
<v Speaker 2>some pop ups and maybe just to do some intimate

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:52.399
<v Speaker 2>events with people, you know, whether it's in people's homes

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 2>and just do a nice dinner party, girls, lunches, just

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 2>just share the joy of you know, of cooking really well.

0:24:58.400 --> 0:24:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I think you need to get that book up before

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Christmas because that would be on the Christmas bestseller list.

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I think like that that's going to go off. We

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.439
<v Speaker 1>want a little cardboard cut out of you in like

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 1>bigw and bookstores next to good next to Jully.

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Goodness, of course, yeah, of course.

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Well before you go. Something that I ask everybody is

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 1>what is something from behind the scenes, something that we

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>might not see, but something that happens, you know, while

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:24.239
<v Speaker 1>making Master Chef. What's something that people wouldn't know but

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 1>would love to know.

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I would say that in preparation for Master Chef,

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:36.400
<v Speaker 2>I bought a whole new wardrobe. So I would go

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:38.440
<v Speaker 2>off and I'd buy a nice shirt and I'd say

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:40.640
<v Speaker 2>to Brad, this is a gantry shirt. And I'd come

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:44.560
<v Speaker 2>back again and you'd say, oh, okay, another Master Chef outfit.

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 2>And then of course we started filming, we were advised

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:52.639
<v Speaker 2>that we actually have to wear just block colors, so

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:56.680
<v Speaker 2>because they strove if you have anything patterned at strives

0:25:56.760 --> 0:26:00.479
<v Speaker 2>with the camera. So all of my outfit that I

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 2>had bought previously beautiful patterned shirts, et cetera, I couldn't wear.

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 2>So had to then go and buy a whole new wardrobe.

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:13.439
<v Speaker 2>And then I thought, look, originally I bought black T

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 2>shirts and they said, now if you're one, you have

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 2>to wear block colors, but don't just go and buy

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 2>all black. So okay, So I've gone from all the

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:22.920
<v Speaker 2>patents to the black and then I just went the colors.

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 2>So there you go.

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>How many outfits did you manage to get by the

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>time You've got you know, your original outfits, your black outfits,

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 1>and now your block outfits. I mean that's a lot

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:34.160
<v Speaker 1>of clothing.

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I've done very well, Yes, very well.

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Tell them to people online. People will buy. I want

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>to get close to you. Yeah, Look, thank you so

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>much for taking the time and being so generous and

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:52.159
<v Speaker 1>talking with me today. I've absolutely loved watching you. I

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like this season will always be remembered with you,

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and I can't wait to follow your journey.

0:26:58.400 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much.

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:02.439
<v Speaker 1>Being Kath was really sweet and I did kind of

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>expect that, but she did have me in tears at times,

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 1>and it was really heartwarming to hear about what her

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:10.199
<v Speaker 1>Master Chef journey meant to her. But now we have

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>THEO coming in and he's ready to share his story

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>and Guys, I think you're going to love him even

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 1>more after hearing about his heartbreaking and his time on

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty three series. Guys, I want to welcome

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 1>theater the podcast. You were a contestant right from the

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>start that my friends had earmarked as the winner, and

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>like it's just so surprising that you came out of

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen. I'm totally shocked to be talking to you today.

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's hard hearing that because so many people along

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.159
<v Speaker 3>the way have been saying, you know, you're going to win,

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 3>We've got you, You're going to win, for sure, and

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 3>it's so hard. And it's just one thing that sort

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 3>of came unstuck and then that that was it. And

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 3>that's the way. That's what this is all about, this competition,

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 3>isn't it. It's you could be the better cook, but

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 3>one day you just have a bad cook and that's it.

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 3>You go home.

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I call it the good old Master Chef bait and switch.

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>They allow us to think one thing and then change

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the narrative. What was going through your mind? This is

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>all I want to know from watching the episode. What

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>was going through your mind as you were eliminated. I

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:09.719
<v Speaker 1>wanted to know. Were you pissed? I'd be pissed.

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was. I was really mad at myself, and

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.479
<v Speaker 3>I was really I was mad because it's so funny

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 3>like and a lot of the people give me a

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 3>shit about this, but I was mad that I was

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 3>mad at myself. So like I've been the last like, well,

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, like ten years trying to be better

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 3>at not being mad at myself and getting it. I

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 3>GA September and I like fly off the handle at

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 3>myself most of the time. And my girlfriends really helped

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 3>me change that about me. And I said to her

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.959
<v Speaker 3>before going on that I don't want to do that,

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 3>and she's like, well, just think about me. And I

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 3>lost it in that moment, and I was mad at

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 3>myself for doing that, and also being out of the competition,

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Like I was devastated because I was thinking in the beginning,

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 3>I was like, well, whatever happens happens. But then when

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 3>you get further and further along and it's like top five,

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like I can win this thing now, like

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 3>I actually can, And then that sent me home. I

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 3>was like, yeah, I was really upset.

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>It kind of made me like you endeared yourself more

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>to me as in the audience, Like I think if

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>you were to have a look on your face of anger,

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>then you know, it looked like you were I don't know,

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were too good or anything that didn't

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>really come across. What came across was that emotion you

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>looked frustrated with yourself, and it only made I think

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Australian audiences like you more because you, you know, just

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>being yourself and of course disappointing to be coming out

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>of the competition at this point. If you'd said, oh,

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>thank you for the experience, it's all been fine, and

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you just skipped off into the distance, I think that

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 1>would have been really good.

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, And that's what I am real like, it's

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 3>just whatever I'm feeling. I'm not acting in any so.

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, this is great and it was great, but geez,

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm shattered, like one hundred percent. I'm really shattered that

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 3>I didn't take it out. And that's the truth.

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>You know what. I remember speaking to Ricky Lee Coolt

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>after she was eliminated from a Alien I all these

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 1>years ago. She came out eighth and the amount of

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>people that came up to her and still believe she

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>won her series. I kind of feel like you are

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the Ricky Lee of this series. I feel like in instacrame,

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>people will only remember that you won because that's the

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>way that it seemed like it was going to great.

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 3>I love it and I'm going to learn to launch

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 3>my singing career as well, I think footsteps.

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's funny. It's funny the way the perception

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>of the trail audience changed at the time. How was

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the experience for you? Did you find anything particularly hard.

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 3>It was hard being away fro from my partner who

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 3>had only been in Australia for like six months, and

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 3>then I left her, you know, sort of all alone,

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 3>which I found really hard. I felt guilty about that.

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 3>I still feel guilty about it, even though she says

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 3>it was fine and whatever. That was really difficult. But

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 3>as far as the competition itself, there was really stressful moments,

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 3>like you know, like you saw, and really stressful times

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.959
<v Speaker 3>for a small block of time. But I really enjoyed it,

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 3>like I loved it, and I love making friends with everyone.

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 3>And it was a time to just immerse yourself in cooking,

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 3>which is not it's pretty rare, and without having the

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 3>pressure of a business or something like that. If you

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 3>were you know, open akery, which I'm going to do

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 3>and that, or a restaurant, you've got that pressure of

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 3>making money and you know, covers every night and all that.

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 3>But in this it was just like be created and

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 3>have fun with that, and that was amazing.

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>To me, Yeah, there's so many outside voices that I

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>think factor in that. I don't think when you're watching

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the show you can understand a voice. Though that we

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>do here a lot is the screaming by the judges.

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>You know. For me, I've got like ADHD, so like

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>if someone makes a noise there, I like got to

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>chase it. And I just was wondering how much of

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>that screaming by the judges really affects you in the kitchen.

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 3>You mean, when they're like saying like minutes ago and

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 3>tell me to go on, I feel like.

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:46.719
<v Speaker 1>They're always screaming.

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 3>They're like, oh guys, I'd be like, I reckon, I

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 3>had tunnle vision or something like. I didn't hear it.

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 3>The only time I heard it was when they came

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 3>up to my bench and they're like right there, what

0:31:58.120 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 3>are you doing? And I'm like, try to give it

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 3>fast answers so they can go away so I can

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 3>continue cooking. Like I just really wanted to focus on

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 3>what I was doing, so that that was really hard

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 3>when they came up to me and were like, tell

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 3>us about your dish, and especially if you don't have

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 3>a clear picture of what your dish is yet and

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 3>they're like, that doesn't sound that doesn't sound like a

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 3>good complete dish or whatever. I'm like, oh no. So

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 3>that's when you sort of feel the pressure from them,

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 3>so that when they're yelling just whatever, you've.

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Got an ability to maybe switch it off a little bit. Roight.

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I'd just be like, I think I'm a people pleaser,

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>So I'm so often hanging onto everything that people are

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 1>saying so to give them what they need. And I

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>think you need to sort of have a particular mindset

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>that you can.

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely not a people pleaser.

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Well that's great, and let me tell you the amount

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>of time of my life that I've wasted being a

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>people pleaser. I wish that I wasn't that.

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 3>If you don't like me, you don't like me. That's it.

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>That's a really good segue into you know, the relationships

0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that you build. I mean, you're there to cook, but

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, a large part of this experience you make

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>these lifelong friendships. Who were your friends that you made

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>this year?

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, really important. But an amazing step in this whole

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 3>process is that is making friends with with people. And

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 3>I became really close with Phil, who was my roommate

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 3>for most of the time until he was eliminated. Jacquelin

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 3>as well was my roommate after that. Bonded well with him,

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 3>and then Grace and Amy really great great friends with them,

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 3>and Brent, and then also Re and Cath because we

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 3>spent so much time together as well. But and Antonio,

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 3>I could go on to be honest, like pretty much

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 3>everyone was friends. But the closest I am is with Phil, Grace, Amy,

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 3>and Brent. I think it's because they live in well,

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 3>Brent doesn't live here, but they live in Victoria, so

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 3>it's easier for us to catch up, so it's a

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 3>bit harder. You know. Antonio is a great, great guy,

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 3>but you know who lives in Sydney and Declan as well,

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 3>so I think, yeah, it's more than catching up with

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 3>people is easier. So it's nice. But it's so good

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 3>to have those friendships out of I don't know where,

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, And when you get older, as you know,

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 3>you don't make friends as quickly as what you do

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 3>when you're young. When you're younger, you just throw a

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 3>ball at someone and you're like, you're my best friend.

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 3>And now it's harder to make friends, you know, so, yeah,

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 3>it's good.

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess it's adults. We don't really get the

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to be put into school like environment. As we

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 1>get older, we get more insular in the groups that

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:17.240
<v Speaker 1>we've formed. But having an opportunity to find like minded

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 1>people who all enjoy cooking, obviously is an unusual experience

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:23.919
<v Speaker 1>for most people. I think more adults should be doing

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 1>extracurricular activities that involve them being in group settings because

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>it is the foundation to make solid friendships.

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it felt like school in a way, like

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 3>a school camp almost, you know, like it felt like

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 3>we were on a school camp the whole time. And yeah,

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 3>I think it's really important for people to follow their passions.

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 3>And even if it's one day a week getting together

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 3>with a group of people doing something like why not,

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 3>more people should do it. And everything that's going on

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 3>mental health and everything that people are struggling with these days,

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 3>I think it would be an amazing thing to have

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 3>people have an outlet where they can meet people and

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 3>be like minded people have a joke around. And you know,

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 3>my friends, my friends from school, do not do that.

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.319
<v Speaker 3>Their lives are too busy, they think, And you know,

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 3>but I think people may make time for it and

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 3>you can be better off for it.

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what's really interesting is like when you

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:13.839
<v Speaker 1>know where any of my friends have had a break

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>up and we're in our forties, so it's like, you know,

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>if we're gonna have a breakup in your forties, it

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>feels like a lot or they fall out with a

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 1>long term friend. I always say, go and do something extracurricular,

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 1>like you know what, do you enjoy painting or cooking

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 1>or just go and roll yourself in something that's going

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>to surround yourself with new faces, because that is like

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a ticket to the next level.

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I thrive on making new connections like I always

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 3>always have. You know, I moved to France and you know,

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 3>bake bread and it was there alone and made lifelong

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.400
<v Speaker 3>friends there as well, And I think it's super important

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 3>to do that. And definitely, you know, that's really really

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:50.880
<v Speaker 3>hard to do, but you can do other things and

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.760
<v Speaker 3>it keeps you young and it keeps you your mind fresh,

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 3>and you know, even doing this Master Chef experience, I

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 3>think I wouldn't a lot of people wouldn't do it

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 3>because they're afraid what's going to happen. But what bad

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 3>can happen? You know, it's only good things. You know,

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 3>if you make new connections, if you develop new skills,

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 3>if you you know, even if it's you're only on

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:11.439
<v Speaker 3>it for a week, you're still in that world and

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 3>making new friends and making new connections and skills and everything.

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 3>I think it's really important.

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I always you know, my mom brought me up and

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:21.240
<v Speaker 1>she would say to me, if you were ever scared

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 1>of something, you know, if you have fear, to push

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 1>yourself against it, because there usually would be a reward

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.839
<v Speaker 1>behind it. Interestingly enough, though, I reminded her of her

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>saying that to me as a kid recently, and she said,

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have said that. I'd have said, if something's

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:39.479
<v Speaker 1>a struggle, run in the opposite direction. I'm like, no,

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:42.359
<v Speaker 1>you didn't teach me that the opposite That's why I've

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:44.320
<v Speaker 1>jumped out of planes. And she's like, well, that was

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>a stupid idea.

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think. I think pushing yourself out of your

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 3>comfort zone and being uncomfortable is where you get the

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:56.319
<v Speaker 3>best rewards. And your mum was right back in the day.

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 3>Maybe she changed an old old age. She's like, don't

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 3>take you more risks, but Yeah, it's one hundred percent

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 3>where you you grow the most and you make you

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 3>make the most, and you also make the best memories

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 3>in those times when you're of course really uncomfortable and

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 3>pushing yourself to the limit. Like who has a memory

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 3>of a YAO was comfortable and I watched TV that night.

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 3>You don't remember that, you remember the hard stuff.

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's true. We kind of we pack our

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>lives that way though. I mean, we kind of need

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:24.399
<v Speaker 1>the people that are going to want to watch Master

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Chef every night, do you know what I mean? Like

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>it's great, but at the same time, you know, it's

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 1>good to be able to fill your life with other

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.720
<v Speaker 1>things as well, you know, speaking about what people watch,

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 1>everyone's talking about re and Cass being on their own

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 1>cooking show and saying how good that would be. I

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know, if you've read the fan forums, this is

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:43.720
<v Speaker 1>one thing that they're focusing on. Would you be interested

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>in watching a cooking show of those two women got together?

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Jeez, I don't know.

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 4>I think it'd be mayhem to watch them together my

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 4>style of show. But yeah, it would be very view

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:59.880
<v Speaker 4>and interesting show for for some people, but yeah, probably

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 4>not for me. Maybe if it was the un edited version,

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 4>it would be pretty funny because.

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Ree is very she swears a lot, and it doesn't

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 3>make it doesn't make the cut, but it's quite funny. Yeah,

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 3>it's quite funny to see. And she actually had a

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 3>funny effect on Kat because Kath never swore, I swear

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 3>until about halfway through this days and she starts, you know,

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 3>just swearing her head off. I'm like, where did this

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:27.320
<v Speaker 3>come from? And it's right, she's a putty map. It's funny.

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:29.400
<v Speaker 1>I was brought up not allowed to swear, so like,

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't have swearing and it's funny. When I started podcasting,

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:33.839
<v Speaker 1>they were like, you know, just make sure you try

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>not to swear too much of the podcast. And I

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>really don't because it just doesn't come naturally to me.

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 1>But I still, as an adult, get really shocked when

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>people like use a lot of swear words. I'm like,

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 1>they got Tourette's, Like, what's wrong with them?

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Well, when I was growing up, I wasn't allowed

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 3>to swear in front of my mom and my dad. Actually, yeah,

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't allowed to swear. And I remember I was

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 3>like maybe seventeen or eighteen. My dad said something and

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 3>I was going to I was going to swear. He's like,

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 3>you can swear now, you're allowed to, and I'm like, oh, nah, nah,

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to like I did. I felt like

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 3>uncomfortable to do it because actually, when I was younger,

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:13.240
<v Speaker 3>I remember this very vivid memory that I was helping

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 3>my dad would but he was doing a barbecue and

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 3>he goes, can you go inside and get me a bowl?

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 3>And apparently I can't remember saying it, but I said, oh,

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 3>do I have to? Am I lad I swear on this? Yeah?

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:25.919
<v Speaker 1>You go. The weird thing is you're allowed to swear.

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>It's an R rated podcast. Just all that makes it

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:30.719
<v Speaker 1>sound like something else can happen. No, you can do whatever.

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 3>You're like, I'm not going to take my pants off yet,

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 3>that's for sure. My dad asked me to get a bowl,

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 3>and I said, do I have to fucking do everything

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 3>around him? And I was like five years old and

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:46.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm ran up to me, grabbed my mouth, emptied a

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 3>whole pepper shaker in my mouth and hold my mouth

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 3>shrap like that, and I was like I couldn't. She

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:54.840
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't let me spit it out. And my grandma was

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 3>like let me spit it out. Let me spit it out.

0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 3>And then I remember that, just that memory, I did

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 3>I want to ever swear in front of my mom

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 3>ever again. So until I was eighteen years old, I

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 3>didn't swear in front of my mom, like and I

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:07.239
<v Speaker 3>still struggled to swear in front of my mom. My

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 3>dad's fine, my dad swears his head off. But yeah,

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 3>it's quite funny. That memory just really sticks in my mind.

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Those parenting police, they'd be like, oh, no, you can't

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 1>do that to kids. But like I grew up in

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the eighties, like that stuff happened all the time, and

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:21.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, I actually think some of those lessons that

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I learned that way were actually really vital.

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 3>So my dad did a lot of things like that

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 3>to me. I remember when I was like six or seven,

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 3>I was like, because they used to smoke, and I said, oh,

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 3>what's give me like a drag or something, and he's like,

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 3>all right, have a drag of the cigarette and just

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 3>threw up everywhere. Haven't touched the smoke since. So yeah, yeah,

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:43.319
<v Speaker 3>that's another thing.

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>So my partner has the same thing, and like he

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:47.919
<v Speaker 1>can't smoke because he had the same thing his parents

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 1>let him smoke anyway. This is like and not this

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 1>is like becoming like a parenting podcast and that's really

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 1>not me and probably not you either. Do you think

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 1>that Declan has one points with the judges by offering

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of his personality with his cooking this year?

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean Declan's Declan's another person. That's just who

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 3>he is as well, so he's not acting at all.

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 3>He's like that twenty four to seven, so he's been

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 3>just real and like, I love Declan, He's a great guy.

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, if he if I don't know, I don't.

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:24.720
<v Speaker 3>I think the judges are very good at just judging

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 3>the food itself, so I think that that is really

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 3>important to them. I think that's what they what they

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.920
<v Speaker 3>hold true to their craft. I think that's really important

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 3>for them, and as it should be, because you definitely

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 3>don't want to be judging on someone's character, because yeah,

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 3>I think it's not and I haven't seen it at all.

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 3>I've loved the way they've gone about their judging and

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 3>everything like that, and I think very very fair in

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 3>my mind.

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:51.360
<v Speaker 1>What about Brent as well, Like Brent had an emotional

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>return to the kitchen, which was highly celebrated, but did

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 1>he have a massive advantage in terms of preparing himself

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 1>for this show. I mean kind of knew how the

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:02.320
<v Speaker 1>sausage was made, so to speak.

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a good analogy. Yeah, I mean in the beginning,

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:07.880
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, this is a big threat. Like

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 3>when he came through those doors, everyone's clapping and sharing,

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, damn, someone that knows how it works,

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:16.399
<v Speaker 3>you know in a way. So I was a bit

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:19.359
<v Speaker 3>worried about that. And you know, it is what it is,

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 3>like if he knows what they what they like. I mean,

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 3>it's not if he knows what they like, it's just

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 3>having been in that pressure cooker situation, you know how

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 3>to maybe handle it a bit better. But you know,

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 3>having said that, Brent didn't handle very well when he

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 3>was there, so big props to him for being able

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 3>to return and do it. But yeah, I was worried

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 3>in the beginning. I was like, damn, this guy is

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 3>the real competition now because everyone else was, you know,

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 3>the same as me, hadn't been there before. So I

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 3>definitely saw him as competition. Like on the first first

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 3>day I saw him and he was running backwards hat

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 3>as well. I'm like, man, that's my thing. What are

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 3>you doing?

0:42:56.640 --> 0:43:00.839
<v Speaker 1>That's trademark? Don't touch it exactly. You know the trip

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:02.759
<v Speaker 1>to Sydney as well, you know that would have been

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>really exciting. I don't think you guys could see that

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 1>that was coming, but you know, I just was thinking,

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what I need to buy at the supermarket,

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 1>let alone recreate something in my mind on a back

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 1>from Sydney. How hard was that challenge for you? And

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:21.439
<v Speaker 1>did that really not play into your particular skill set

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:22.280
<v Speaker 1>at this point?

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I was trying to channel my inner rain Man

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 3>like on that one, but just you know, it's really

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 3>hard to just get all those numbers because it's very particular,

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 3>very and in that fine dining style, you need to

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 3>be precise. And yeah, you're right, it doesn't play into

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 3>my hands, that's for sure. And probably that whole, that

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 3>whole thing leading up to that then led to me

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:46.440
<v Speaker 3>not being able to keep my calm in feeling that

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 3>membrane because you know, stressed out to think about I

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:52.760
<v Speaker 3>need to remember all these numbers and get it right,

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.840
<v Speaker 3>and then going into peeling it thinking that, you know,

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 3>that's a stressful situation, and I sort of remember just

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 3>starting to do it and being like, no, it's not

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 3>working straight away, you know, not that negativity. No it's

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.280
<v Speaker 3>not going to work. It's not working. Just yeah, just

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 3>screwed me over a little bit.

0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it certainly is something I relate to really easily,

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>like as in, once my brain tells me that I

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>can't do something, it's almost impossible to shake that. So

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I really relate to your experience.

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 3>It's definitely a maturity thing, I think.

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 1>And you know, well, that's something I've not got for you.

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, neither. So at the age of thirty seven,

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:31.839
<v Speaker 3>I would have got it by now. But I am

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 3>a lot better than I was because I remember when

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 3>I was younger, you play cricket in the backyard or

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 3>kick the footy or whatever. I'd go out and throw

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:41.839
<v Speaker 3>the cricket bat and be like I'm going home, you know,

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 3>like that sort of thing. So that's what I was like.

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:46.399
<v Speaker 3>So I think I've got a lot better and I've

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:49.239
<v Speaker 3>managed it really well until that point. I think that

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:51.880
<v Speaker 3>was the breaking point for me. And yeah, there was

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 3>a lot there was. I was really angry that that day.

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 3>It was really sucks in.

0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, was it the squid though, Like I couldn't work out.

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, when you're watching a show like this

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 1>is hard to really know because it can be something

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 1>so finite, like it can be something very small as well.

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 1>What was it? Where did that kick in? Where was

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the throwing away of the cricket bat for you? Where

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you just thought, I don't know how to come back

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 1>from this.

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 3>As soon as as soon as I couldn't peel the

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 3>membrane like the first go I knew it would be

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:23.759
<v Speaker 3>harder going back at it because you start it and

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 3>it's sort of like you're kind of ruining the part

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 3>of the squid that you're trying to pull, so then

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 3>it becomes harder and harder to pool. So I knew

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:33.799
<v Speaker 3>at that point as soon as it didn't come straight away,

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, fucked, yeah, I like, you know, and

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 3>then it's in my head, you're not going to be

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:40.359
<v Speaker 3>in the top three. You've wasted all this time on

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 3>this Master Chef journey and you're going to come forth

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 3>like that's horrible, Like you know, you've you've left your

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:49.719
<v Speaker 3>partner at home, you're an asshole, you're you know, all

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:52.400
<v Speaker 3>these things that you know going in my head that

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:55.319
<v Speaker 3>trying to fight against like. You don't have that. You

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 3>don't have that foresight to sit back and go nothing,

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 3>You're all right, you're not an asshole, you're doing well.

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:04.719
<v Speaker 3>You didn't leave your girlfriend at home to come and

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 3>a cooking show. You know, it's all good. I just

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 3>didn't have that maturity to do to say that to myself,

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 3>and that's what it was.

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:16.759
<v Speaker 1>And maybe you never will. But again, I'm pretty sure

0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 1>that people will think back to this series and only

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:20.239
<v Speaker 1>remember you as the winner, and that's all we need

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 1>to care about. Really, at this point, we need to

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:27.799
<v Speaker 1>care about. Yes, you know, if the judges did have

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 1>a favorite, or you have a connection yourself with one

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 1>of the judges, was there someone you connected with more

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:37.240
<v Speaker 1>than anyone else.

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:40.360
<v Speaker 3>I had a different relationship with all of them, I

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:44.320
<v Speaker 3>feel But I feel like I was very similar to

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Jock in the way that he delivered his feedback to

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:52.239
<v Speaker 3>me and sort of was. I could see that he was,

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:56.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, very similar to me in the way, you know,

0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:59.719
<v Speaker 3>he didn't like sugarcoating things. So it'd be like, you know,

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 3>stuff that up. You know, that's what you stuffed up.

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 3>You need to get better at that. And I would

0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:09.320
<v Speaker 3>take that as yes, thank you, like, don't shoot, don't

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 3>say this was fantastic, this was great, and then not

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 3>talk about the stuff that I didn't do well, if

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 3>that makes sense. You know, if you could make all

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 3>these things and you could just point out they're really

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 3>good stuff and then say, well, good jobs there are

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:25.360
<v Speaker 3>like well done. But Jock would just say, you know,

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 3>first of all that stuff was good, great, but this

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:30.799
<v Speaker 3>is what you you made a mistake on and you

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 3>need to get better at that. And that helped me

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:36.160
<v Speaker 3>a lot, really really helped me a lot, So I'm

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:37.000
<v Speaker 3>very grateful.

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:40.400
<v Speaker 1>The best currency in life with communication is always truth.

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because people get lost in that, you

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. People forget to be truthful about

0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:47.840
<v Speaker 1>who they are and what they say. And sometimes we

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:50.239
<v Speaker 1>want to say to people something better than it is,

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 1>we want to make them feel better. But the truth

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 1>is what people want to hear, even if it is hard.

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 3>You know. Well, I think a lot of people don't

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 3>know how to deliver the truth without being me about it.

0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:03.279
<v Speaker 3>I think John did that really well, you know, like,

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:06.680
<v Speaker 3>I think he was really great at explaining what you

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 3>did wrong, but not in a way of well you're

0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 3>not good enough. It's not like that. It's just you

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 3>didn't do that part. Well, just work on that part

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:19.680
<v Speaker 3>and that's where you'll you'll you'll get better at it.

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:23.000
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's that's exactly the way I operate.

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, if someone you know, the classic we eat

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:30.960
<v Speaker 3>eat dinner at home, well, mom and dad, and every

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 3>single time we'll say, there'll be a critique on the

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:36.799
<v Speaker 3>table of something. You know, Mum's probably over it, to

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 3>be honest, but it's like, this is really good, Mum,

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:42.239
<v Speaker 3>but I reckon that it's a bit too salty all that.

0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:45.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, we all have our things that we say,

0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:48.879
<v Speaker 3>and I think it's really important because you just keep

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:51.879
<v Speaker 3>doing the same stuff that people say, yeah, well done,

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:54.759
<v Speaker 3>and it's no good. Then what's the point. You're not

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 3>getting any better.

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:57.719
<v Speaker 1>So I have this mantra, which is, you know, you

0:48:57.760 --> 0:48:59.440
<v Speaker 1>can be a good person or a bad person, but

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 1>as long as you being genuinely yourself, people will like you.

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:05.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:07.560
<v Speaker 1>If the food is salty to you, even though it

0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:10.160
<v Speaker 1>might not be salty to everyone else, if you're speaking

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:12.359
<v Speaker 1>your truth, it doesn't come across mean, you know.

0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:14.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. And the way you deliver it. That's a

0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:17.439
<v Speaker 3>bit too salty for me, you know, rather than that's

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:19.959
<v Speaker 3>way too salty. You don't know what you're doing. That's

0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:22.320
<v Speaker 3>not how you deliver it, you know, it's all about delivery.

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I really don't think that you need to win a

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>show like Master Chef to really stand out from your experience,

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:31.360
<v Speaker 1>and we've seen that in previous seasons before. I'm just

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:33.560
<v Speaker 1>super curious, you know, what do you want to do

0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 1>with this whole experience next? Like what have you got planned?

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to open a bakery for sure, and I

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:41.640
<v Speaker 3>want to take over the bakery world in Melbourne and

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 3>just be everywhere. That's my number one goal. That's the

0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 3>end goal. That's like where my happiness lies. But also,

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:50.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, I want to do a lot of things

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:53.839
<v Speaker 3>on social media and things like that. I would love

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 3>to just get my get my name out there even

0:49:56.640 --> 0:50:00.520
<v Speaker 3>further with cooking and with bread and help people, help

0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:03.319
<v Speaker 3>people cook and you know, do simple things and just

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:06.400
<v Speaker 3>and be real, like you said, like be real and

0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 3>just be myself and I think people will will take

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 3>to that. But yeah, the bakery is my number one

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:14.399
<v Speaker 3>goal because that's where my passion lies.

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that journey is upon you. I feel

0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>like you're on that journey. You are being real and

0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:20.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm a Melbournie and so I'll be buying

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the bread. I guess the best question to ask you

0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 1>at this point is who, in your eyes deserves to

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:27.560
<v Speaker 1>win the show at the moment.

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 3>I reckon. I think Declan deserves to win the show

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 3>in terms of growth. I think he's done really well

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 3>in terms of growth. But I also think that that

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:43.400
<v Speaker 3>Brent is the better cook, to be honest, So I

0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:47.839
<v Speaker 3>don't know. And Ree's great as Well's really good as well,

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:50.799
<v Speaker 3>but I don't think she has what the boys. The

0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:54.560
<v Speaker 3>boys have in terms of cooking ability. So yeah, it'd

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 3>be interesting to see who takes it out.

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:58.600
<v Speaker 1>So my last question to ask you, something that I

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 1>ask everybody is what is a question? What is something

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:03.360
<v Speaker 1>from behind the scenes, something that we as an audience

0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:05.600
<v Speaker 1>won't see, kind of like a behind the scene secret

0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:06.280
<v Speaker 1>of the show.

0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:09.239
<v Speaker 3>You know, Like I said to you, my partner was

0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:11.520
<v Speaker 3>from is from France and she had on even been

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:15.120
<v Speaker 3>in the country for six months, so just a like

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:17.840
<v Speaker 3>cheeky phone call to her every now and again, and

0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:20.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, checking in on her and seeing if she's okay,

0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:23.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, because it really took a toll on me.

0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:27.360
<v Speaker 3>I think being away from her was really hard because

0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:31.719
<v Speaker 3>I knew that I know that she's not great, well

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:34.400
<v Speaker 3>she's not great at being alone, but it's in a

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.000
<v Speaker 3>foreign country on her own, you know, it was really difficult.

0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:38.839
<v Speaker 3>So I would always want to check in, you know,

0:51:38.920 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 3>after every every day and just be like, look, I'm here,

0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:45.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm still nearby, you know. And I think that put

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 3>her mind at ease. And I think that was really

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:50.080
<v Speaker 3>really an important part of this because if I couldn't

0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:52.040
<v Speaker 3>have done that, I don't think I could have could

0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 3>have been on this journey.

0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Is it like prison? You only laid one phone call? Like,

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:58.560
<v Speaker 1>can you only have one all a day?

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, And it's like one of those old school

0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:03.719
<v Speaker 3>phones that you have to put money in. I'm just

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:04.279
<v Speaker 3>picturing the.

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I picturing Ree and Cath like in a scene of

0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Prisoner or Wentworth, you know, standing in the queue. You know,

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:13.480
<v Speaker 1>come on THEO. Times up?

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Orange is the New Black?

0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe absolutely THEO. You know, you are an amazing person.

0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I think you have done such a great job this series.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorites. Clear favorites this series to watch

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't wait to see what you do next.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. I expect you in front of the line

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<v Speaker 3>at the bakery when I open it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Melbourne, I'll be there and I am looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to being just that little bit bigger from eating

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<v Speaker 1>all of that bread.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah nice, I love it. Thanks mate, Thank you.