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Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by our partners at

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Speaker 1: Workplace Law. Welcome to The Female Athlete Project Season two.

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Speaker 1: My name is Chloe Dalton. I'm an Olympic gold medalist

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Speaker 1: in rugby sevens and I'm now playing for the GWS

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Speaker 1: Giants in the AFLW. I started TFAP to share the

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Speaker 1: stories of incredible female athletes and to address the gender

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Speaker 1: inequalities that exist within the sports media space. We want

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Speaker 1: to change that story, and we're all about making news

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Speaker 1: and highlights of women's sport easily accessible across our platforms.

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Speaker 1: Our hope is that more female athletes will become household

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Speaker 1: names and in turn enable the next generation of young

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Speaker 1: kids to pick up a ball, racket, backboard, whatever they

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Speaker 1: want to pick. Snowboarder Bell Brockoff is about to become

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Speaker 1: a three time Olympia, a huge feat achieved by a

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Speaker 1: very minute number of the population. Bell was born in

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Speaker 1: to Snowsport Royalty. Her uncle Peter Brockoff, competed in alpine

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Speaker 1: skiing at the nineteen sixty and nineteen sixty four Winter Olympics,

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Speaker 1: and her great aunt, Joyce Brockoff, has a run named

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Speaker 1: in her honor at Mount Hopham Victoria in recognition of

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Speaker 1: her work promoting the involvement of women in snowsports. Bell

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Speaker 1: was given her first snowboard at the age of ten

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Speaker 1: and won the National Schools snowboarding title within just weeks.

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Speaker 1: Throughout her career, she has faced numerous setbacks, including rupturing

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Speaker 1: her acl twice in the lead up to the twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen Winter Olympics. She's got a really beautiful outlook on

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Speaker 1: life and on what the dark places can teach you

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Speaker 1: about yourself. Bell is a huge advocate for mental health

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Speaker 1: literacy and as a trigger warning, this podcast discusses suicide.

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Speaker 1: We've included information and resources about Lifeline and Beyond Blue

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Speaker 1: in the show notes. We can't wait to watch Bell

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Speaker 1: kickoff her third Olympic campaign, and I really hope you

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Speaker 1: enjoy hearing Belle's story. Before cheering her down the track,

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Speaker 1: Bell broke off, Welcome to the Female Athlete Project.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: We're excited to be here. I'm like a big fan

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Speaker 1: of the show, like massive, it's so good, it's so good.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I've watched you from a far

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Speaker 1: I've followed you for a while on Instagram, so it's

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Speaker 1: really cool to have the chance to sit down and

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Speaker 1: chat to you today, particularly so close to the Winter Olympics,

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Speaker 1: which is which is part of the reason why we

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Speaker 1: wanted to chat with you and hopefully get to hear

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Speaker 1: more about your story so that people can support you

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Speaker 1: too while you're competing in Beijing. Yeah real, no, thank

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Speaker 1: you for that. Let's kick it off. Can you tell

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Speaker 1: us about what Bell was like as a little kid.

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Speaker 3: I was an asshole, Like I no.

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Speaker 1: Not really like not like a bully or anything.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, it's finely I got bullied in

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Speaker 2: the end, so Katie came back.

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Speaker 3: But when I was okay, So like I was born

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Speaker 3: in Melbourne and I was such a rap bag at

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Speaker 3: the hospital, they were told to leave, like Mum told

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Speaker 3: me to, like told got told to take me away

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Speaker 3: because I was just screaming my lungs out like super energetic,

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Speaker 2: And then, as you know, much had one two.

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Speaker 3: I went to different kindergartens and stuff for childcares and whatnot,

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Speaker 3: and I kept poking like kids' eyes, biting them, stealing

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Speaker 3: their toys and shits. But that was the fresh start,

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Speaker 3: and Mum was like, oh my god, so let's just

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Speaker 2: That was my entire life.

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Speaker 3: So I put into like soccer, played foot of the boys,

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Speaker 3: like cricket, tennis, swimming, surfing, like just everything, like anything

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Speaker 2: And that was it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, passed out every night, which was mum's wish.

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Speaker 2: So it was that was the very beginning.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and tell us how old you were when you

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Speaker 1: first I had your first experience on the snow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, parents have had quite the rich history in

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Speaker 2: School photos of Mount Buller.

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Speaker 3: We had the original ski huts at Mount Buller and

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Speaker 3: Mom got a snowboard when she when I was nine

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Speaker 1: I was like, I really want to snowboard.

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Speaker 2: So I bloody did that that year.

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Speaker 1: I went to Level one owing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got my first snowboard, and it was every day,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's pretty well, that's very cool.

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Speaker 1: Were you doing that on your own or did you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I did some of it on my own

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Speaker 2: Just hang out and that was it. You know.

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Speaker 3: We didn't have like, you know, fancy phones or anything.

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Speaker 2: I threw a tantrum. I was like, this bullshit.

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Speaker 3: And I got so competitive that my uncle Peter Brockoff,

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Speaker 3: Next week. I still got that gold medal. It's just

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Speaker 1: That'll be next to my gold medal. You don't want

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Speaker 3: And then when I moved to because I grew up

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Speaker 3: I had a number of crashes that really freaked me

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Speaker 3: It's more like skiing than it is snowboarding because of

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Speaker 1: Made my way onto the World Cup pretty quickly. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: looks like that that pressure that that kind of brings

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Speaker 3: dropping and changing different clubs all the time. My mom like,

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Speaker 3: my mom's My mom's gorgeous. She's she's amazing. She's quite

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Speaker 3: knowing no one had minimal money for food, education, books

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Speaker 3: She basically taught me that you know, whatever you do,

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Speaker 3: She mainly kind of drilled in the humble side of

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Speaker 3: made sure I didn't have that. She wanted me to

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Speaker 3: then what they said to me.

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Speaker 3: amazing event. And every time we've gone there, it's been

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Speaker 3: an amazing event. So yeah, it was a strange feeling,

444
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 3: but it was a great games at the end of

445
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Speaker 3: the day.

446
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Speaker 1: I'm very glad to hear that getting them prepped for

447
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 1: this first World Cup win that you talked about. I'm

448
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,439
Speaker 1: interested to know about the nature of your sport, that

449
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 1: it's so fast and there's so many elements and things

450
00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 1: that can go wrong, like mentally, how do you prepare

451
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: If people listening haven't haven't seen it, you need to

452
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 1: go and watch some of them. Like it's it's intense, right, yeah,

453
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: it's intense. We have this running joke with my teammates.

454
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 1: It's like if it's nihily like and we're kind of scared, We're.

455
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 2: Like, you know, what if I die, I die, if

456
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 2: I die die, whatever, we'll just edit.

457
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 3: But you know, you get it's not like that, but like,

458
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 3: you know, it's a traumatic but you just like any sport,

459
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 3: like you just train, like you know, with a rugby

460
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 3: and footy for example, you train a certain kick and

461
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 3: move a reaction time so that it's just second age.

462
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 3: You don't think about it because if you think about it,

463
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 3: then the moment's gone. You know, you want to be active,

464
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 3: So the same with us, you know, we train jumps,

465
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 3: we train rollers. We train tight racing in a group

466
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 3: of you know, athletes, just so we can get that

467
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 3: sort of feeling and figure it out. And most of

468
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 3: the time it is safe because you're all trained to

469
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Speaker 3: be at the top of the level of the sport and.

470
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Speaker 1: You just know it's going to be okay. And obviously

471
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Speaker 1: there's a bit of a sketchy person here and there,

472
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 1: but you just kind of get out in front of

473
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Speaker 1: them as from them. But yeah, like it's just it's hard, normal,

474
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's fun. We love it and we just

475
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: train every day for it. How much because in footy

476
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: we do a lot of opposition analysis and try and

477
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: work out who's going to do what and go which way?

478
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: Is that a big part of how you prepare.

479
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

480
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Speaker 1: I don't know what other others are like in comparison

481
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Speaker 1: to other traditional sports, but I do have like like

482
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Speaker 1: when I study a course, I'll look at different lines,

483
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Speaker 1: I'll play with different lines, I'll have backup plans and whatnot,

484
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Speaker 1: because most of the time, when you're in a heat,

485
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Speaker 1: you won't get the line that you want. And then

486
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Speaker 1: when you're in the heat, I'm like, okay, well, this

487
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: chick from France, she has a certain writing style, and

488
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: she's a goofy writer or natural writer, and she probably

489
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Speaker 1: make this move down here, like based off what I've

490
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: seen on the footage from training. Then we also have

491
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Speaker 1: this ride over there that's a little bit heavier that

492
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: could make a move here or there, or she'll carry

493
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Speaker 1: more freight than me, so I have to be aware

494
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Speaker 1: of that and make sure that I'm putting up defensive

495
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Speaker 1: lines as well as focusing on my line and generating

496
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Speaker 1: as much speed as possible.

497
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Speaker 3: So there's all these different things. Right now we have

498
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Speaker 3: pizza four or riders that go down, so it's less

499
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Speaker 3: what we used to have of six, so it makes

500
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: it a little bit more simple, but still so much

501
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Speaker 3: to think about.

502
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Speaker 1: What is a defensive line?

503
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Speaker 2: If you good time trials, there's one line of.

504
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Speaker 3: The best example I could give is like in a turn,

505
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Speaker 3: most of the lines that are fast in the midsection

506
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Speaker 3: of the turn, just on average, and when you're in

507
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Speaker 3: a hate, when you're getting into someone's draft, you can

508
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 3: actually pin the gate, and the gate are like little

509
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 3: checkpoint marks where you have to go around. If you

510
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 3: go through them or on the other side, then you

511
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 3: get scorefied. So they make sure that people go through

512
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Speaker 3: the right areas, of course, So when you go into

513
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Speaker 3: a turn a pack of athletes, some people can take

514
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Speaker 3: a lower line and then eventually push you out because

515
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 3: the g force just takes you out that way. And

516
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Speaker 3: also if you're in front, you want to stop that

517
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Speaker 3: from happening, so you take the tight line and then

518
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: run everyone out a little bit, which will make them

519
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: slower in theory, and that's most of the time what happens.

520
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just that, and that's mostly through turns

521
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 3: and sometimes through role sections. Sometimes a fast area because

522
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: it's been ridden in more so you want to protect

523
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Speaker 3: that line as well and still focus on what you're.

524
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Speaker 1: dot are you twenty sixteen World Cup in you kind

536
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: of touched on it before. What did it feel like?

537
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 1: I guess coming down and knowing that you've done it,

538
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: You've got your first win. That was a big relief.

539
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 3: It was a frustrating season because I just felt like

540
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 3: I was ready and everything was just right there for

541
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 3: me to grab that gold medal, but it just wasn't happening.

542
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: So we rocked up to.

543
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 2: Bakura Barette in Spain and the whole team was there.

544
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: It was a Nari track.

545
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Speaker 3: It was the first time where we rocked up to

546
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: training and none of the boys it started training straight away.

547
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 3: Usually when we start training, the guys just get in

548
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: there and go fast but not dropped. And there was

549
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: probably like five guys and I thought, you know what,

550
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 3: I screw it, like girls are training with guys.

551
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: I need to do this.

552
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 3: I want to freak myself out. I need to go

553
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 3: and just hit these jumps. And they were really kick

554
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: you too. They sent you up in the air and

555
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 3: you had to be so balancing. If you weren't, you

556
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 3: get poospat to the side and it was just narly.

557
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: So I was six person to drop. Very proud of

558
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 3: shooting myself though. I remember looking at my teammate Mattie saying,

559
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 3: oh my god, We've got to die. He's like, yeah,

560
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: I know, but we didn't. And we had a really

561
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 3: good training session. It was a lot of fun and yeah,

562
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 3: like I just you know, worked my way through the heats,

563
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 3: got to big final and I just felt I just

564
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: felt different. Everything was coming naturally.

565
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Speaker 1: I got into that state of flow I had, you know,

566
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: basically my tunnel vision on and it just it just came.

567
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 3: Actually, everything was calm and across the finish line, I

568
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 3: dropped to my knees and cried.

569
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, find.

570
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Speaker 1: They're like this is this is massive. And then five

571
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Speaker 1: minutes later my teammate Alex Chumpy Paul and one of

572
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Speaker 1: the men, so it was too Australia first, you know,

573
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Speaker 1: men and woman when he got first for Australia and

574
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Speaker 1: the women's side, so it was a very special day.

575
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Speaker 1: And Chumpy tragically passed away in a spearfishing accident. How

576
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: did that impact you hearing the news when that had happened,

577
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: I thought it.

578
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 3: Was like a really sick prank because like, you know,

579
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 3: I've known for a long time. Noticed was inter schools,

580
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 3: like when I was ten years old, so like there's

581
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 3: there's been a lot of history, like a lot of history.

582
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: And he was obviously the first guy to win a

583
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: World Champ, two World Chap medals just at alone one

584
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: and two overall globes, which is massive.

585
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: To get a globe is bigger than getting Olympic medal.

586
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was really good to see that and

587
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: then eventually hold the team with him and get to

588
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 3: see what he gets he does and how he trains

589
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: and his mentality and everything. So you really developed a

590
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 3: personal relationship with the guy as a teammate, and it

591
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 3: was just so weird because he's so cap and precise

592
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 3: in what he does and he's been doing spearfishing like

593
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 3: before he even snowboarded, like for a long time, and

594
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: it's just it's still so weird on our team too,

595
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: because everything, yeah.

596
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: Like weird, like he's around, but it's just yeah, it's

597
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: so weird.

598
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: It's been over a year now and people are still yeah,

599
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: getting through it. Yeah, and I think during was it

600
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Speaker 1: during the AOC's well Being Week I read about you

601
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Speaker 1: wanting to just pay tribute to him. I think across

602
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: the board he was pretty iconic as an Australian athlete. Yeah,

603
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: people who even people who didn't know him, he just

604
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: seemed like the loveliest bloke and just had such a

605
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: good reputation across the board and what.

606
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: People when you had him, he just wants to make

607
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: him to feel like you're his best friend, pitty special guy.

608
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. Heading into the twenty eighteen Olympics, I don't

609
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: even know where do we even start with this? So

610
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: March twenty seventeen, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then

611
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: two months before the twenty eighteen Winter Olympics you had

612
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: a fall and you ruptured to ACL again. Yep, so

613
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: you had surgery after the first one. Had dream take

614
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: you to come back and start training and competing again

615
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: before you then reruptured it.

616
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Speaker 3: It took me four months to come back on snow

617
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: and it was a very intense rehab. It was five

618
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: times a day, seven days a week. It wasn't much

619
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: for social life. So we had a time frame. It

620
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: was eleven months to the Games. And I thought, okay,

621
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: let's just give it a red hot go.

622
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: And I just decided when.

623
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 3: I got the news that I was going to make

624
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 3: try and make the games.

625
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: And I know if I didn't, I would I would.

626
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: Have so regretted it.

627
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Speaker 1: It's just shit. It's so shit doing that. Cant rehab

628
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: and came back and did my first World Cup at Valthorins,

629
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Speaker 1: France in December. And it wasn't because I wasn't ready

630
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: because I did a lot of training camps on the tracks,

631
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: racing tight races prior to that. It was just shit

632
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: weather And I hate blaming external things things happening to me.

633
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: It's just not me and I don't think.

634
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: So I couldn't see where I had to jump over

635
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: a certain feature. The time I thought I needed to jump,

636
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: I was already in the air. So when you extend

637
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: your legs in the air, it's really hard to bring

638
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: your legs back up underneath you.

639
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: So I was in full extension and then I came down.

640
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: I couldn't see the landing I landed, but I landed

641
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: and I hype extended my front knee and crashed.

642
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: And I remember lying they're looking up at the snowfall

643
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: and it was it was horrid weather.

644
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: I don't think my coach saw me because you couldn't

645
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: see me because the fog was incredible, and we didn't

646
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: other crashes that day too, where a lot of girls

647
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: and guys got injured. And this was during my time trial.

648
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: I you know, it was fifth to drop. We should

649
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 3: have canceled time trials. Its way too dangerous. They actually

650
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: canceled time trials right.

651
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: Up crash, which is fantastic.

652
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, I remember lying there looking out and thinking, yep,

653
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: I've done it again. And I just watched nine months

654
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: of rehab just go down the drain and it just

655
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 3: it just tore me apart, just so shit. But you know,

656
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: I didn't have time to be upset.

657
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: I had to make it.

658
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: So, you know, do you have a go without ACL

659
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: or do you come back to the rehab, surgery whatever.

660
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: I missed the games completely. No, I wanted to get

661
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: it done. So you were two months out from the

662
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: Olympics at that point, yeah, and so chose to not

663
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: have surgery and compete without the ACL.

664
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, I didn't have time to have surgery.

665
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a scope to clean out because I

666
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: had cartlage damage, but cleared out the cartilage.

667
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: Clear out the old ligament, and just started training with

668
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: the knee brace on and basically trying to get my

669
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: knee to get used to impact, which was painful because

670
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: I had.

671
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: A lot of knee bruising and that doesn't go away.

672
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: So it was a very very intense rehab and I

673
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: actually don't know how I did it. I just did

674
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: proy comes from that dess of nature with wanting to

675
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: get things done. But I had to show to the

676
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: team that I could compete. So I went to the

677
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: World Cup in Feld, Germany and competed at the World

678
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: Cup there.

679
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: It went quite well. I got third in time trials

680
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: and then finished up eighth overall, but I was very.

681
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: Scared racing because it was such an unknown territory. My

682
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: coaches have never done anything.

683
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 1: Like this before. No one's really done it ever before

684
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: in the whole sport, like trying to get this athlete

685
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: to games. And I was like, okay, we'll just go

686
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: with it, see how we go. But yeah, we managed

687
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: to the games. How many times along that journey did

688
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: you contemplate just calling it every day every day?

689
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll real with it, like it was.

690
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: It was so so shit, and I had a lot.

691
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 3: Of athletes that have been so supportive and awesome mentioning,

692
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: you know, their process with their own injuries. We had

693
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: a lot of the injuries and went to sports and

694
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: that was great. But it normally tells you how hard

695
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: it's going to be. And you know, we have such

696
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: a high impact sport, like our legs are suspension for

697
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: we need them, and we have such high impact and

698
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: landings and then speed, there's g forces, there's ruts, so

699
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: you really do need it.

700
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: And it was.

701
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: New for me, but it definitely taught me on a

702
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: lot of patients and respecting the process and having the

703
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: ability to kind of lay everything out and just look

704
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 3: at having a really good look good look yourself in

705
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: the mirror and just working on all those weaknesses and everything.

706
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, look good journey.

707
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: I wouldn't like to do anything different, Like I'd totally

708
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: have we not now ye that if I the time

709
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: same timeline would do it again, absolutely absolutely because of

710
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: what it taught you about yourself. Yeah, and what I

711
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: could say and really backing myself, learning to back myself,

712
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: and that was the biggest.

713
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: Thing that's really cool. Did you how did you feel

714
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: when you actually compete it In twenty eighteen at the Olympics,

715
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: that was a whole.

716
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: It was just I had so much, like emotional whiplash

717
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: from that games.

718
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: You just wanted to, Like I wanted to go for gold.

719
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: I always go for gold, even if I think I'm

720
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: not up for it, I'll say, yeah, I'm going for God.

721
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 2: I want to back myself with this squirrel. Let's just

722
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: go with it.

723
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 3: I think that's really important too, because it kind of

724
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: pushes you a bit more than just aiding for a

725
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: top five. But we had two training days at Olympics,

726
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 3: two training days two hours each. I couldn't get one

727
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 3: lap down the course. I had my knee fully taped

728
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: up with rigid tape.

729
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: I had knee brakes on top of that, and a

730
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: huge course and it should have been bigger actually with

731
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: the speeds that we started to get throughout the race.

732
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: But I couldn't move fast enough. I didn't have the

733
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,959
Speaker 1: right range because of the rigid tape and the knee brains.

734
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 2: I'd like to adapt to the features and the speed Wheremember.

735
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 3: One crash, I kept crashing and training at one missing

736
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 3: the landing completely because I couldn't make the right move

737
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: and I had a tail wind which was eight. It's

738
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 3: scariyce thing ever, and it sent me to the flat

739
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: backlig was fine, but I remember broken a binding a

740
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 3: feature further after a few runs, and I just kept

741
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 3: crashing and crashing and crashing, and I definitely tweaked my shoulder.

742
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 3: I can't sleep on it now, so that's fun. Time

743
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: cut up my face and everything, and I.

744
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: Just got and that was the second day of training

745
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: and I was just like, you know what, just let's

746
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: just watch, let's just take a step back, watch the girls,

747
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: and we'll just figure it out.

748
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: The day of the race.

749
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: So I didn't get a full lap down the track

750
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: until just before my time trials. I was just relieved

751
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: to get down the track and I.

752
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: Was like, Okay, now we can build up from there.

753
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: I've watched the girls get faster and faster and.

754
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: Faster and figure out the track. We're just starting out today,

755
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: and I got better each heat.

756
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: It's just unfortunate that I crashed in the semifinals before

757
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: big finals. What's the mindset? Like, I'm interested in the

758
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: difference between the two right, Like a very traumatic experience

759
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: heading into twenty at In many ways, it sounds like

760
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: and kind of going to what is the pinnacle of

761
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 1: sport right at the Olympics and knowing, you know what,

762
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm not at my very best here. My body hasn't

763
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: really cooperated with me, but I'm here.

764
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: I did it.

765
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: Like there's so much respect in that, right, the fact

766
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: that you actually got yourself there versus what your preparations

767
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: now looked like for twenty twenty two. Is that that

768
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: you were in yep, nice heading into Beijing, Like that

769
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: must be a totally different mindset in that approach.

770
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 3: There's different, like, you know, you'd like the thing that

771
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 3: you've learned I think or two in the four years

772
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: leading up to these next.

773
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: Games, and I definitely have.

774
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: You know, my comeback season was shortly after a couple

775
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: of years after them Chang. It was only two seasons

776
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: ago that I made my comeback and I had a

777
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: very successful comeback because I had no pressure, Like it

778
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: was just just have fun and compete. We don't care

779
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: if you get results or not, and up being my

780
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: most successful season to date, which was unreal. That was

781
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: Rea sharing that I still got it. But then I

782
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: was kind of building up from there because the mental

783
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: side wasn't there for me.

784
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,479
Speaker 2: Like I was still very scared, very scared because you.

785
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: Know, I hadn't made a comeback with my ACL before

786
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: and what when I did, it added really badly, So

787
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: my body felt good.

788
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: It was just my mind and that that.

789
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: Links everything up, skill, body, everything, It just it just

790
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: links everything up. Was so important.

791
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 3: So it took a long time and it was only

792
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: last year that she started clicking for me mentally, And

793
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: to be honest, it was it was me admitting to

794
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 3: myself and my coach.

795
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: I remembered at the World Champs, I had gotten.

796
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: A fourth in the individual event and I said to him,

797
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: I'm as good as good.

798
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: As I've ever been, Like, I can't be any better.

799
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: I've done all the training, dollar work, I know better

800
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: than these girls.

801
00:37:59,000 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: What the hell is it?

802
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: And I said to myself, like me, like on of

803
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 3: the reason why I'm not getting the result that I want.

804
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: And then the next day got a gold medal at

805
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: the World Champs, which is huge, and that was where

806
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: my mind kind of clicked. You really need to believe

807
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: in yourself, you need to back yourself and you need

808
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: to commit you do. And from there I kind of

809
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: repeated it in training camp and in more cultinary thing.

810
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: There seems to be this common theme of backing yourself.

811
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm interested to know kind of what that means to you.

812
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: I think a lot of time, obviously there's lots of

813
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: athletes that listen to this podcast, but there's also people

814
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: who don't like kind of just exercise for fun or

815
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: might not even listen to it for sport reasons, right,

816
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: I'd love to know what that actually means to you

817
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: and how you apply it when you're competing. Yeah, it's huge.

818
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: Like you look at all the top athletes in the world,

819
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: and all of them have a confidence in themselves that

820
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: they're going to be the best in the world. And

821
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: that's those one percenters. Like the mind being, those are

822
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: your one percenters because it's got a training program. Everyone's got,

823
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, well, most people have training programs, coaches, especially

824
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: at that level, got.

825
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: All those things. So what's the difference. It's your mental game.

826
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: So for me, backing myself is knowing I can achieve

827
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: a gold medal every time hard but I'll back myself

828
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: and knowing that I can, and it's believing that I

829
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 3: can reach.

830
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: These goals and whatever I do. You know, not just

831
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 1: with the bigger picture of a gold.

832
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: Medal and at World cart Olympics and whatnot.

833
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 3: It's more in my training as well, like setting targets,

834
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: like small targets every single day, because that builds up,

835
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: that compounds throughout the whole year and then over like

836
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: four years, ten years, it's massive jumps. So for me,

837
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: like I back myself every day in training, my gym training,

838
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 3: my routine, my training on snow, my weekly goals, everything.

839
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: And it just reinforces confidence. It's not an arrogance thing.

840
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: It's not a cocky thing, it's not any of those things.

841
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: It's just really believing yourself that you can do these things.

842
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: And even if you fall short, like who cares, Like,

843
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: look at different options, build from there, like break them

844
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: up in small goals.

845
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: That's okay. And I think people get caught up in

846
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 3: like what if I fail? What if this happens this

847
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: and that? So what Like that's a learning experience for you.

848
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: Failure is learning if you choose it to be.

849
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: That's why I like I back myself no matter what

850
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: failure or success. You know.

851
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: Cool, I like that.

852
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: I also really like the part of kind of that

853
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: backing yourself every day and the idea of it compounding.

854
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: I think that way of breaking it down is really

855
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: really powerful. I like that a lot. Twenty twenty two,

856
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk around competing in China

857
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: and some of the humans human rights violations in the past.

858
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: I think you're obviously very well respected because of the

859
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: fact that you're quite vocal on a range of different

860
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: issues and you speak your mind. What is that like

861
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: for you heading somewhere like that, knowing what's going on

862
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: in the world, But then also this balance of going

863
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: there to compete, So it's a tricky one for me.

864
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: Every person wants people to have rights to be able

865
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: to live their life and live at the best they

866
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: can and do what they love. But fortunately some people

867
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: don't have that. And yeah, like it's I feel.

868
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: Like every Games has some sort of thing that pops

869
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: up around it and everything and it dies down and

870
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: everyone forgets about it and it sucks. It's kind of

871
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: frustrating for me because I I woke my ass off

872
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 3: to guess the Games and to go for a gold medal,

873
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: and then suddenly have all these different people saying, oh,

874
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: are you to speak up?

875
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: People do this and this and this.

876
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 3: You should do this, you should do that, you should

877
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: say this, And I'm like, where are you guys like

878
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: leading up to this point, Like why can't we just

879
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 3: have this more consistent about the whole quad rather than

880
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: it's pinpointing one event and getting athletes do all these

881
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 3: different things, which I feel is selfish in a way

882
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 3: because the athlete has dedicate.

883
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: Their life for this one event.

884
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: But at the same time, like we do want to

885
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: see change and good change.

886
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: I think that just needs to come after competition, when

887
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: you win your gold medals or silver medals or bronze medals,

888
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: and you can have.

889
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: Voice to vocalize those things. But it's hard like some countries,

890
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: and I sound political as can.

891
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: I hate it, like I just do. But like I

892
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 2: know China.

893
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 3: I do my my grandma's from China, so she's got

894
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: stories to tell. So I am a little bit cautious

895
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 3: in some senses.

896
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes sense that idea of kind of the

897
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: four year cycle. I know a lot of Olympic athletes

898
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: experience that. Right, it's kind of like suddenly here and

899
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: now you're caring about what I have to say, simply

900
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: because it's time for the Olympics. How do you manage

901
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: that part of your sport. Sometimes you just have to

902
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: learn how to say no to certain things. And there's

903
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: a time and a place for things.

904
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: And if you care.

905
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: About cause, then you'll consistently work on those things. Like

906
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 3: for me, it's mental health, you know, we beyond Blue

907
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: and Lifeline currently Lifeline. That's always been a consistent thing

908
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 3: since twenty fourteen for me because I put me that

909
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 3: I care about heaps and that's something that touches everyone,

910
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 3: whether it's sport, not sport, verbal country, you know, first

911
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: world country, like it's it touches everyone. So that's that's

912
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: how I would tell athletes or anyone in the spotlight.

913
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: If you have a cause at your you know, it

914
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: means something to you. Make him consistent, Mike. It doesn't

915
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: have to be every single day. It can be like

916
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 3: once a month, every couple of months, just you know,

917
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: share information that way rather than be like, oh, you know,

918
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: Black Lives matters, protests is on, this is happening, Let's

919
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: just jump on that wagon. Oh then you know Pride month,

920
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: let's just jump on that wagon.

921
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: You know it just it doesn't help, like make it consistent,

922
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, be genuine about it. Yeah, absolutely, that's a

923
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: really really good message. I want to I want to

924
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: come back to this mental health stuff to finish off.

925
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: But every week on the show, I've got a question

926
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: from a six year old and from my grandma. Oh no, good,

927
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: that's awesome. I'll do the question from six year old

928
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: free to First, when.

929
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: You're wearing your onesie ski, So is it hard to

930
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: go to the toilet?

931
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

932
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: Okay, So, like I've designed this suit to be aerodynamic, right,

933
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 3: and I've totally forgotten how I'm going to pee, and

934
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: it's like layer under and over and under and over

935
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: and then strapped down and I'm like, oh.

936
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: My god, I can't pay.

937
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: It's just half the time.

938
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: I just I just don't pay.

939
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 2: I just I'm like, I'll just take the dehydration route.

940
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, just I'll take the dehydration route and deal with

941
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: it later, or like I'll have to like take all

942
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: these layers off and hopefully it's not that cold like

943
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 3: in China. It was cold in Russia it was like

944
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 3: negative twenty five, and I was like, dehydration, just go

945
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: to dehydration. But yeah, it is.

946
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard. Rita is going to love that answer,

947
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: all right. Next is question from my lovely grannie. Hi, Now,

948
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: what ordinary thing in your day brings your joy? Oh?

949
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: My coffee. My coffee in the morning.

950
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 1: It's the first It's the first thing in the morning

951
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: that I have, and it just sets the tone for

952
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: the day. If I have a coffee's gonna be shit day.

953
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: But it starts off poorly, doesn't it?

954
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: When it's not a good But yeah, it's just all

955
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: you have a shit coffee and the rest of the

956
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 3: day is good because you can't get worse than shit coffee.

957
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: So it depends on how you look at it.

958
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: Really low bar low bar, I am lower, cheap high.

959
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: Coming back to that mental health stuff and that idea

960
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: around being consistent in what I guess what you're passionate

961
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: about and what you want to support. Why is it

962
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: that you are so passionate about being vocal about mental

963
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: health and supporting these causes. Because of my own mental

964
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: health in the past, I had depression, I had I

965
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: was going through a lot of anxiety to a point

966
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: where I didn't want to go out in public and

967
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: talk to anyone. I want to stay in my room

968
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: because I was just so scared of that interaction. And

969
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: I had quite severe depression why I started self harming

970
00:45:54,440 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: and also attempts of suicide. So I will my snowboarding

971
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: because because of how I worked my way through that

972
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: mental health side and made things a lot better for me.

973
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: I'd still like my injury.

974
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: I'd still if I went back in time the depression

975
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: and anxiety, I would still go through that again because

976
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: it taught me a lot about myself and where I want.

977
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: To be in life, and it taught me to the

978
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: beauty of life as well.

979
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 3: So going back to snowboarding, he gave me a lot

980
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 3: of peace. He gave me a focus, It gave me

981
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: structure to my day, and then from that I could

982
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: build out, like build different ways to deal with.

983
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: That, and then you know, from there, it's been disappearing

984
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: more and more and more.

985
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 3: So I'm very lucky in that sense, and I know

986
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 3: people aren't so lucky with that. So that's my journey,

987
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 3: and I share that journey in hopes that someone can

988
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 3: feel connected to that story and have hope in knowing

989
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 3: that they can also move out of depression or recover.

990
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: From anxiety or whatever it may be.

991
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm so vocal with and consistent with it,

992
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: because it comes back to that compounding effect, like you

993
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: do whatever in other years and it ripples out to

994
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: so many different people and more than what I would know,

995
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: which is such a powerful effect. I've had the chance

996
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: on the podcast to share before. I think it was

997
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: when I was chatting with anime Is around some mental

998
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: health stuff, and I've shared with my anxiety and I

999
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: had really really bad anxiety insomnia, I think last year

1000
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: in particular, and the year before. And one of the

1001
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: things it's really cool hearing you say that around the

1002
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: fact that you almost wouldn't change it, because I think

1003
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: for me when I was like in the peak of

1004
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: that anxiety, I know one of the things that I

1005
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: would say to myself was hopefully, one day this will

1006
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: give me a greater level of empathy and understanding for

1007
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: someone else who's going through the same thing. No, exactly right,

1008
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 1: and you know, you connect better with people, and it's

1009
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: just it's such an interesting journey. And I truly believe

1010
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: like with anything that's perceived.

1011
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 3: As or seen as bad or dark, it's really not

1012
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: like it can be such a beautiful journey, and that

1013
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: all just starts from you. You have to make that initiation,

1014
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 3: and there's so many people out there that can help you,

1015
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: Like there's some of your resources. People aren't going to

1016
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: shy away from helping you out. You just have to

1017
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 3: believe that. You know, you're not a burden to these people,

1018
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: because people go through shit every day, you know, so

1019
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 3: you can do it.

1020
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: Anyone can do it. And this idea of compounding with

1021
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: kind of the mindset burst the physical training. Do you

1022
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: almost apply the same idea with it, the fact that

1023
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: you've just got to do it insistently. You have to,

1024
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: Like your brain is just like I'm no doctor or whatever.

1025
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: My perception on an opinion is that your brain's a

1026
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 3: muscle and you can see that with like you're learning

1027
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,959
Speaker 3: each day. You have a structured learning with from day

1028
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: one way up to your life right now. And that's

1029
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: a compounding effect and you need to train your brain

1030
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: every day to become better. And that's also a missing

1031
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 3: link with athletes as well. Like we train our bodies,

1032
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 3: we make these amazing bodies get peak performance and skill

1033
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 3: level and all that sort of stuff.

1034
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: But like a lot of the times, we leave the

1035
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: brain behind the mind the mindset, so that needs to

1036
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: be trained just as much as the body, so that

1037
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: when you're you know, when you've trained all these things

1038
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: and you're a comp day, you've got to be invincible.

1039
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: And that's the same with mental health as well. Like

1040
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 3: obviously the physical stuff is a little bit different. Exercise

1041
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 3: is always great, going for a walk, getting connected with

1042
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: the nature, getting away from technology, and just looking after

1043
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 3: your body and then also looking after your brain. You

1044
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: need to work on those things, and there's so many

1045
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: resources these days that you can look up that with

1046
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 3: YouTube if you have to start with different articles like

1047
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: just anything just to get started, and eventually, if you

1048
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 3: go through enough things, you'll find your own way of

1049
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 3: handling things and navigate this amazing journey that depression and

1050
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 3: anxiety can offer you.

1051
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely we might. We might also check a couple

1052
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: of those resources in the show notes too and at

1053
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: the end of the show so that people can access

1054
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah, thank you for sharing that. It's it's

1055
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: really really cool. We finish off every episode with three

1056
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: would you rather questions? Oh god, okay, number one, would

1057
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: you rather have to race with your goggles super foggy

1058
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: to the point where you can't really see? Or race

1059
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: with one foot unclipped from your bindings?

1060
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 2: Un clip from my bindings for sure, and you're screwed. Okay,

1061
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: we'll say that.

1062
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: Number two. Would you rather spend the rest of your

1063
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: life in winter or summer once you retire? Summer?

1064
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: I hate winter.

1065
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: I hate the cold. The truth I hope. Yeah, yep,

1066
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: it cats out of the bag. I actually hate the

1067
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: cold so much it's the worst. Oh God. The final question,

1068
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 1: I've actually made this not really would you rather because

1069
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: you're about to compete at the Olympics, and so I've

1070
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: made it really easy, and it's would you rather win

1071
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: Olympic gold or Olympic gold? What the hell's that? Well?

1072
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: Rather when two? Than why? If that's what you're asking? Yeah, sure,

1073
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: let's good too. Sure amazing. Thank you so much for

1074
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: your time today, for coming on and having a chat,

1075
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: and just for speaking really candidly and really honestly about

1076
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: everything that you've been through. You're super easy to chat to,

1077
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: and I love your perspective on the way that you

1078
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't go back and change the things that have happened

1079
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: to you because of what they've taught you and that

1080
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 1: now shapes the way that you approach life and training.

1081
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: But also you're using that to make an impact on

1082
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: other people, which I think is really incredible, So thank

1083
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: you so much, absolutely nice to hear. Thanks so much

1084
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: for listening. If you got something out of this episode,

1085
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: I would absolutely love it if you could send it

1086
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: on to one person who you think might enjoy it. Otherwise, subscribe,

1087
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: give us a review, and make sure you follow us

1088
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1089
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,560
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