1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: If your child feels like they belong at school, they 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: do better. They do better not just at school, but 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: in life for up to ten years later. Today what 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: school belonging is and how you can create it. Hello 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: and welcome to the Happy Families podcast, Real parenting Solutions 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: every day on Australia's most downloaded parenting podcast. My name 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: is doctor Justin Colson. I'm an author of I don't 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: know like nine books, working on my tenth book at 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: the Moment about raising boys, the co host and parenting 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: expert on Channel nine's hit TV show Parental Guidance, and 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: dad to six daughters and one grand baby. Normally I'd 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: be doing the podcast with Kylie, my wife missus Happy Families, 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: but unfortunately today she's not well and has said you're 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: on your own, get it done. I'll try to be 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: back tomorrow, so fingers crossed for Kylie. I'm sure she'll 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: get better soon. So we all want our children to 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: be happy, we want them to be successful at school. 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: Unfortunately that's not the case for too many of our kids. 19 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: For me, primary school was joy but high school were 20 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: probably the worst six years of my life. Really, no 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: positive memories at all of school except when I did 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: well at the swimming carnival, it was tough. It was 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: tough socially, it was tough academically. I just wasn't motivated 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: to be there at all. My parents were paying a 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: lot of money, they were focused on my grades. They 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: wanted me to have great friends, They wanted to boost 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: me up and enrich my life with extra curricular activities, 28 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: and it, well, the bottom fell out. It just didn't work. Though. 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: What if I told you that one of the most 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: important factors for what my well being could have been 31 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: at school and what your child's well being could be 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: now at school, for both now and into the future, 33 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: is their sense of belonging. So recent research from Monash 34 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: University has shed light on this profoundly impactful idea of 35 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: school belonging on both short term and long term mental 36 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: health as well as school success that I've had on 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: the podcast recently. Associate Professor Kelly and Allen was the 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: lead researcher here, and I want to step you through 39 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: some of this research because it really is eye opening. 40 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: They followed over fifteen hundred individuals from adolescents so notice 41 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: this is high school kids, not primary school kids, through 42 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: to adulthood. They looked at the link between their feelings 43 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 1: of connection while they were at school and their mental 44 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: wellbeing later in life, and here's what they found. Those 45 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: children who felt a strong sense of belonging in high 46 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: school experienced fewer mental health challenges in their twenties. Let 47 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: me say that again. You feel like you're connected, you 48 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: feel like you belong, feel like you're part of the community, 49 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: You're contributing and receiving nicely and in the right way 50 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: from the school, and you have better mental health fewer 51 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: mental health challenges in your mid to late twenties. Fascinatingly, 52 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: this connection was evident even when they controlled for or 53 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: accounted for statistically other factors like how well you did 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: academically and the quality of your family relationships. In other words, 55 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: when you feel like you fit in, that you matter, 56 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: that you're part of the school community, that has a 57 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: lasting positive impact on your mental health. In fact, some 58 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: research from the United States highlights that if your kids 59 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: can show up at school and just have two things, 60 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: just two things, it will build school belonging. Number One, 61 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: an adult that they're excited to see and who is 62 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: excited to see them. I remember, for our eldest daughter. 63 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: That was mister Cotter. Mister Cotter was a science teacher 64 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: at Woollongong Performing Arts High School, and our eldest daughter 65 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: she was really struggling at school. She was struggling socially. 66 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: She didn't like it there. It was hard work. And 67 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: then she went into grade eight and met mister Cotter, 68 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden life changed. She couldn't wait 69 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: to go to school on days when mister Cotter was 70 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: going to be teaching science. Previous to that, she'd also 71 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: hated science. But one adult who delights in your child 72 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: and who your child finds great joy in, Oh my goodness, 73 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: and please I don't need all the whole of it. 74 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: This sounds really sinister. I'm talking about innocent, beautiful, high quality, 75 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: positive relationships between a teacher or another adult and your child. 76 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: It does happen, and you don't have to. I mean, 77 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: there are so many bad examples of it, but there 78 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: are also millions more positive examples. So please don't go 79 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: to dark places here. I'm talking about wholesome and positive 80 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: and uplifting and hopeful relationships. If your child walks in 81 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: the school gate and there is one significant adult at 82 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: school that they're excited to see and who is excited 83 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: to see them. Oh, that's half the battle, and that 84 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: promotes school belonging. The second critical relationship is having a friend, 85 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: somebody who sees your child walk through the school gates 86 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: and says, hey, come sit with me, or who says, hey, 87 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: what happened last night or what are you doing this? 88 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: Just just that one person. Unfortunately for Chanel in that 89 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: particular school environment, she didn't have that. It was really 90 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: challenging for her. But we gave her a a trial 91 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: day at a private school down the road, and when 92 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: she went in there she found the teachers delightful. But 93 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: she also had one or two friends who actually they 94 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: weren't initially friends. They were just people who met her 95 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: and said, hey, you're a new girl, come sit with us. 96 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: We would love to get to know you. We think 97 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: you'd fit right in here. And that led to what 98 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: ultimately was a very very happy school experience for our 99 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: eldest daughter. The idea of school belonging if there can 100 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: just be two people, a friend and an adult who 101 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: can make your kids feel amazing, that's when they know 102 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: that they belong at school. After the break on the 103 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: happy family's podcast, Why school belonging matters so much and 104 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: how we as parents can foster that sense of belonging 105 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: for how the children. We're talking about school belonging and 106 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: how our kids can thrive both at school and later 107 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: on in life for up to ten years when it 108 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: comes to mental health and well being if they feel 109 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: like they've got a good level of school belonging. So 110 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: when children feel like they belong at school, when they 111 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: feel like they're welcomed and valued and supported, here's what 112 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: research shows. They're much more likely to engage in learning, 113 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: the more motivated, them more attentive, the more eager to 114 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: participate in classroom activities. They develop more positive relationships. I mean, 115 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: this is a social resource, and when you've got that 116 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: social resource, it makes it easy to accumulate more of it. 117 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: They tend to feel more comfortable interacting with peers and teachers. 118 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: They foster friendships and a sense of community. I was 119 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: talking to a young man just the other day and 120 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: he was struggling not in a school environment, but in 121 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: a church environment. Same same though really in terms of 122 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: seeing these people frequently and having good relationships. He was 123 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: struggling to form a connection with just one person who 124 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: would say, hey, come sit with us. We're really glad 125 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: you hear. And so he was looking to head to 126 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: a different place for church and for his spiritual fulfillment. 127 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: Why because he wasn't having the comfortable, positive interactions with 128 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: his peers that he needed, and therefore he did not 129 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: feel the sense of community, and therefore he didn't feel 130 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: that he belonged, and therefore he wanted to go somewhere else. 131 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: The research also shows a higher propensity of capacity to 132 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: cope with stress because the support system is there to 133 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: turn to when academic or social challenges arise, and there's 134 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: more resilience in kids who feel like they belong at school. 135 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: They just they feel like they're worth something and they've 136 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: got the confidence to navigate lives ups and downs. So 137 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: how do we foster this sense of belonging, particularly if 138 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: we've got a child who does not feel like they 139 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: belong at school? What if this is not working? What 140 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: if your kids are saying I don't belong It doesn't 141 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: feel good for me at all. I'm going to share 142 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: with you what I think are three suggestions that can 143 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: make a big difference. These are calls to action for 144 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: you as a parent. These are literally action steps to 145 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: help your child to feel like they belong, particularly if 146 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: they don't. The first is partnering with the school, and 147 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: there are two. Actually, I think there are three ways 148 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: you can do it. At number one, you can open 149 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: up communication with the school, so connect with your child's teachers. 150 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: Don't walk in there with all guns blazing and say 151 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: my child doesn't feel like they belong. You're doing it wrong. 152 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: I want to see change. Like partnering means we sit 153 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: down with our child's teacher and we say, I'm noticing 154 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: something at home. What are you seeing? How can we 155 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: work together to help my child feel like they belong 156 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: because we know that this will make a difference. So 157 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: this means a gentle and polite email, maybe having a meeting, 158 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: attend school events, show up at the parent teacher meetings, 159 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: be an active participant in your child's life. That's how 160 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: you partner with the school. With that open communication, I 161 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: think in harmony with that. The second thing to emphasize 162 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: is how we can advocate. That means that we don't 163 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: hesitate to reach out the school counselor or other support stuff. 164 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: Too many parents are too slow. They don't want to 165 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: look like they're being an impediment. I know that the 166 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: helicopter parent sort of what is it that the example 167 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: of the helicopter parent is that they're in the teachers 168 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: or the school's face all the time. Yes, there are 169 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: some of those parents, but overwhelmingly, my experience has been 170 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: that parents are reluctant to step forward. They're hesitant to 171 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: do so. And the third thing in terms of partnering 172 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: with the school is support the schools and initiatives like 173 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: get involved in school activities and events that are going 174 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: to promote that sense of community and belonging. Get to 175 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: know what's going on at the school, Volunteer for tuch shop, 176 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: or volunteer to help out on cross country day, or 177 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: just be useful around the place. If you've got the capacity, 178 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: it makes a huge difference. All right, that's the first 179 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: one partnering with the school. Second idea that I want 180 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: to share is just how you can nurture connections at home, 181 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: having family time, providing emotional support, helping your kids to 182 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: develop strong social skills by getting them to engage in 183 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: activities that are going to foster friendships outside of school. 184 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: Those the kinds of things that are going to help 185 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: them to be more socially competent and capable when they 186 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: show up at school. And the third thing is champion 187 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: their interests. Okay, so we're not just advocating for them 188 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: at school. We're not just trying to nurture connections at home. 189 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: We're championing their interests by encouraging them to explore those 190 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: interests and passions, those extra curricular activities or things at school. 191 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: We're celebrating their strengths and looking at what they're doing 192 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: well and just getting them the confidence to keep doing it. 193 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: And where we can, we're promoting and fostering and centralizing 194 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: autonomy in their life, which means giving them major, appropriate 195 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: choices and responsibilities and letting them make decisions and experience 196 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: the consequences of those decisions when they make choices that 197 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: aren't necessarily the best choices within safe boundaries. Of course, 198 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: here's the bottom line. School belonging is not just about 199 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: feeling happy and comfortable in the classroom, although that's a 200 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: big part of it. It's a crucial ingredient for long 201 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: term mental health and well being. And if we can 202 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: partner with the school and nurture connections at home and 203 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: really elevate our kids' interests and support them as they 204 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: seek to become increasingly confident and comfortable and able. They 205 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: become more confident themselves and build a stronger foundation for making. 206 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: It all sound sickly sweet and saccherin, but they built 207 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: a stronger foundation for a happier life. They like. The 208 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: outcomes are there, The research outcomes are there. Help your 209 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: kids to belong at school to the very best that 210 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: you can, and, like I said, partner with the school 211 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: as much as it's reasonable to do it. I hope 212 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: this has been useful. If you would like more information, 213 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: check out the idea of school belonging on any of 214 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: the social media platforms, or just google it and talk 215 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: to the school about it. It will make a difference 216 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: in your children's lives. The Happy Family's podcast is produced 217 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: by Justin Roland from Bridge Media. So I hope Kylie's 218 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: back tomorrow. It's just more fun with Kylie, isn't it. 219 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: Otherwise I just sound like I'm this guy telling you 220 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: what to do. I'm so sorry. Anyway, if you'd like 221 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: more information and more resources to make family happy, to 222 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: check out the show notes. We'll link to some stuff 223 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: about school belonging. They're obviously happy families, dot com, dot a, 224 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: you