1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: The Albanezi and the Finocchi Aio governments have activated more 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: than twelve point four million dollars in support for small 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: businesses and nonprofit organizations in the Northern Territory that have 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: been impacted by severe weather, flooding and the impacts of 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: ex severe tropical cyclone norell. Now. One of the communities 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: that was hit incredibly hard is Catherine and joining us 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: on the line is the Member for Catherine. She's also 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: the Minister for various portfolios. Joe Hersey. Good morning to you, Joe. 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, and good morning listeners. 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: Joe. Obviously this is good news in a lot of ways. 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: I mean, twelve point four million dollars is nothing to 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: sort of scoff at, but you know, for some of 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: those businesses, I would imagine they've been hit really hard 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: after what's been a really tough time for the people 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: of Catherine. 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and this is something that I followed up basically 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: while we were still going through the flood, because I know, 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 2: after being through this in nineteen ninety eight, back then, 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: businesses were given ten thousand dollars from the federal government 20 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: and so here we are, you know, twenty eight or 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: so years down the track, and I think, you know, 22 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: small business is the backbone of the territory and of 23 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: the nation. And I'd spoken to many businesses that had 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: been doing it tough. In actual fact, some had only 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: worked for seven days for the month of March, and 26 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: basically March was a write off here in Catherine, and 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: businesses still have to go and pay their staff, pay 28 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: their insurance, all the outgoings that they actually have to 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: deal with in business, as well as front up every day. 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: And it was you know, there did need to be 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: some support. So we put that to the federal government 32 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: and it did sit on the Prime Minister's death for 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: a very long time and they came back with not 34 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: quite what we wanted. But any support is better than 35 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: no support. But I think for those businesses just to 36 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: let them know in the coming weeks there will be 37 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: more support that I've asked for as well, because I 38 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: think this is not going to go far enough. But 39 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: it's better than nothing. 40 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is better than nothing. I mean, Joya said there, 41 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't quite what you wanted. What had you wanted? 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: There was a package that we had put forward on 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: a sliding scale from ten thousand upwards and you know, 44 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: obviously this has come back for businesses and not for 45 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 2: profit organizations also to access grants of up to ten 46 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. And as I said, ten thousand dollars is 47 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: what the federal government gave in nineteen ninety eight, so 48 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: I just thought potentially a little bit more would have 49 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: been great. But as I say, let's not look a 50 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: gift horse in the mouth, and I think it will 51 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: go a long way to helping people. But as I said, 52 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: there hopefully will be more coming in the next few 53 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: weeks and potentially maybe with the budget. 54 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: Well, and it's not just you know, the residents of 56 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: Catherine or the businesses in Calton either. It's Komali as 57 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: well as Litchfield Rope of Golf, Victoria Daily, West Daily 58 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: where Starnham, belle Ewen, Walgutshire, as well as Greater dough 59 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: And Unincorporated area and Cox Daily Unincorporated Area and Marrachai 60 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: Douglas Day. You know, there is no doubt that these 61 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: weather events have absolutely smashed the territory like that. You 62 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: know the fact that that many areas have had to 63 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: be included, and that many small businesses and also not 64 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: for profits impacted. You know, it's it's something, but I 65 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: don't I just don't know how far ten thousand or go. 66 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: Joe, No, that's right. And as I say, I've been 67 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: in small business before. I know exactly how far ten 68 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: thousand dollars went six years ago when I was in business, 69 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: not really that far. But you know, it's it is 70 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: better than nothing. And for those businesses that have had 71 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: to get back on their seat, it's something to start 72 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: them off. But yeah, I mean, what can you say. 73 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: It is what it is. It is better than nothing. 74 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: But I know I don't even have to talk to 75 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: businesses know that that would not be enough, but it 76 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 2: is better than nothing. 77 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 1: Do you know if they've got to prove their eligibility 78 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: or how it kind of how it's going to work. 79 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they will be able to put in, you know, 80 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: for up to ten thousand dollars to support the recovery 81 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: from the disaster. So you know, it's eligible businesses that 82 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: don't and cannot couldn't access a you know, commercial finance 83 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: or even that had insurance. So you know, I think 84 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: that would still be a lot of businesses out there, 85 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: and you know, I just hope that all of the 86 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: businesses that need support do actually make sure that they 87 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: put in for it. I know that I as soon 88 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: as this came out this morning, I emailed all businesses 89 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: that we have in our database here in Catherine. I've 90 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: emailed all of them this morning to let them know 91 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: that this is available. So if you're in Catherine or 92 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: even across the territory, make sure you put in there's 93 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: a link with that media release that went out and 94 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: put in an access that finance for you, because, as 95 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: you said, this is right across the territory. We did 96 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: have seven extreme weather events all going on at the 97 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 2: same time. It's been a big web season. 98 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: It certainly has. Joe, how are things going in Catherine 99 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: at the moment. How are some of those small businesses 100 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: you know that we're talking about, how are they tracking 101 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: after what's been a tough time. 102 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're definitely. You know, most businesses that 103 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: I know i've here in Catherine that I've spoken to 104 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 2: have a back up and running. There was many of 105 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: those businesses that actually open over the easter break as 106 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: well on the public holidays, which was great to see, 107 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: you know, making trying to make as much money as 108 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: they can over a holiday period. But I know that 109 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: definitely some people that I spoke to did not have 110 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: the amount of tourists through that they potentially thought they may. 111 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people did stay at home 112 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: because you know, on top of this, we've also got 113 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: the cost of fuel right across the nation, but here 114 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: in the territory, and when you're paying nearly three dollars 115 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: a liter, even two dollars whatever it is for eighty five, 116 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: I think maybe for unleaded it certainly makes you think 117 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: twice about driving your car. I know it's certainly got 118 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: my pushbike out the other day, KDI. But you know, 119 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: it's okay that you can do this kind of thing 120 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: when you're in a small town that maybe in a city, 121 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: or when you're living remotely. It's not that easy, right, 122 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: And it's certainly not that easy for businesses that have 123 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 2: got trucks. And we've got many businesses here in the 124 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: territory that you know, trucking our goods around and freight 125 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: and all the rest of it. So it's very challenging 126 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: times for all businesses right across the territory, and I 127 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: certainly feel for them at the moment. 128 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you spot on, Hey, Joe, tell me in terms of, 129 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, the state of the roads around Catherine as well, 130 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: because I know there was well, you know better than anyone. 131 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: There was so much rain and I would imagine quite 132 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: a bit of damage to some of those roads. How 133 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: are things going at the moment. 134 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: I can tell you that I went out to Cooinda 135 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: over the weekend and had a little bit of a 136 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: staycation in our own backyard, which was wonderful. The road 137 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: between Catherine and Pine Creek is not too bad. I 138 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: won't say it's amazing, it's not too bad. A lot 139 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: of potholes have been filled in. But between I've had 140 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: many reports back to me just today and yesterday. Between 141 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: Pine Creek and Adelaide River, steel is a major issue, 142 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: and there are some potholes there, Katie, that are seriously 143 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: I would not like to be driving a small car. 144 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: I'm heading up to Darwin again tomorrow afternoon for some 145 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: work and I'm constantly onto Minister End's offers to let 146 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: him know I'm doing a road report basically whenever I 147 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: drive these days of sending they're probably sick of me 148 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: sending them photos of the roads. But you know, we 149 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: need to make sure that people are safe out there 150 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: on the road and that these potholes are being filled 151 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: by all of the providers that we've got out there 152 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: doing roads right across the territory. And there's a lot 153 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 2: of potholes to fill in let alone just ones around 154 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: Catherine here in town, and like. 155 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: You said, you know, it is a safety concern. I 156 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: know that for you know, all of us are doing 157 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: a bit of complaining I suppose, or a bit of 158 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: reporting of potholes and of traffic lights and things like that, 159 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: but it is important because we want to make sure 160 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: that you know, that they do get sorted and yeah, 161 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: that we're able to Yeah, that we're really able to 162 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: ensure that people don't then wind up in a crash 163 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: or an accident on our roads hitting one of those 164 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: potholes or you know, due to that damage. 165 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And I think you know, like listeners 166 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: are your eyes and ears out there, you can be 167 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: the eyes and ears for the council areas as well. 168 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: I know here in Catherine we have snaps in sol 169 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: I know in Alice maybe they have neat streets or 170 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: something like that, and so there's different areas where you 171 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 2: can actually take that photo upload it to that app 172 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: and send it off to your local council. And that 173 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: is another way of people out in the community letting 174 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: the people that are in charge of those areas, whether 175 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: it be the government roads or council roads, of letting 176 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: them know because you know, there is so much work 177 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: for councils to do that they can't potentially get to 178 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: them all at once as well. 179 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, just thinking of an update Katie while I've 180 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 3: got you on the phone or on me even. Yeah, 181 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: As the Minister for flood Recovery, this Friday, I will 182 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 3: be catching up with Ken Davis again on one hundred 183 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: million relief right across the territory for the Flood Recovery Fund. 184 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: So we will then be working out some of those 185 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: areas and he'll be letting me know. He's been out 186 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: to a lot more places more recently, and I think 187 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: today he was hoping to get down to Murray Downs 188 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: good stuff, and so having a look at all those 189 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: places and actually visiting them, not just going on what's 190 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 3: being said to him, is actually out there on the 191 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: ground visiting all of these places so that we have 192 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 3: a very informed report that he can give back to 193 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: me on Friday and then we can work through that 194 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: and prioritize what the most pressing needs are and make 195 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: those decisions moving forward on where that money will be spent. 196 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: Also, do you reckon you might be able to make 197 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: a decision on where some of that money might be spent. 198 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: I think within a couple of weeks meeting with him Friday, 199 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: so maybe even towards the end of next week, we'll 200 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: have an announcement, depending on what we get through this Friday, 201 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: of where some of that money will be spent. So 202 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: let us know we want to get that money out 203 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: the door as soon as we can because we across there. 204 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. You want to you know, you don't 205 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: want to be sitting on it. Well, Minister Joe Hersey, 206 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: Member for Catherine as well. It's always good to catch 207 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: up with you. I appreciate your time this morning, and 208 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: no doubt we'll probably have a chat to you next 209 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: week or the week following about that that funding and 210 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: where some of that money might be spent. 211 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: No worries, good, thank you,