1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf covering the issues that are 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: important to you on Nex one O four point nine. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: As plenty of you know, I love my sports and 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: I certainly like it when we've got sporting stars. 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 3: Here in the Northern Territory. 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: And my next guest is a former Australian rugby union footballer. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: He played for the Queensland Reds in the Super Twelve 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: and represented Australia. He was one of the best centers 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: in the world throughout the nineteen nineties and he's joining 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 2: us in the studio right now. 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 3: Tim Horan, how are. 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: You, Katie? 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 4: Very well, thank you, thanks for having me here in Darwin, 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 4: and good to be back. He was here about thirty 15 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 4: months ago, about two years ago, so great to come 16 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 4: back up. 17 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: And you've got a role with Santos, don't you. 18 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have. 19 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 4: I've been an ambassador for Santos for about nearly ten 20 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 4: years now. So I go to you know, all around Australia. 21 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 4: Got to Narrabry in New South Wales and Ganadara and 22 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 4: Roma and Queensland and Gladson just to and I just 23 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 4: go to the rural communities and go to kids schools 24 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 4: and help them do some coaching clinics with them, but 25 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 4: also just talk to them about healthy eating, healthy lifestyle, 26 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: being part of a sporting team or environment and what 27 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 4: I learned playing for the Wallabies Australian rugby union team 28 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 4: for twelve years, and. 29 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: You know it's values and structures and disciplines and things 30 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: like that. 31 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 4: So it's been it's been enjoyable and been up here 32 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 4: for last day or two and it's been a bit 33 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 4: of fun. 34 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: So you've been to the territory once before? Did you 35 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: say many? 36 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 4: A couple of I remember coming up would have been 37 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 4: probably eighteen nineteen. 38 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: We came up and played the Hottest sevens, yeah seven 39 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: side to it. 40 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 4: Which was there, going part it twice it was too 41 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 4: hot and didn't want to come back up, but it 42 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 4: great fun. Really enjoyed it and even doing a coaching 43 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 4: clink last night with a lot of the youngsters from 44 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 4: you know, all around sort of different rugby union teams. 45 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 4: We all came together and there's so much support for 46 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: the game here which is fantastic and we you know, 47 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: as former Wallaby players and I now commentate on TV 48 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 4: for the rugby and we need to try and find 49 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: that next Curtly Bill great indigenous boy went to Saint 50 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 4: Joseph's College in Sydney and there's plenty of talent here. 51 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 4: We're just believe we've just got to be able to 52 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 4: try and nurture the talent and bring them through then 53 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 4: also take them back to whether it's the East Coast 54 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 4: of Australia, put them be in program so it gives 55 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 4: them that platform. 56 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so how did the training clinic go yesterday? 57 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: And what else have you got on with the school kids? 58 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great. 59 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 4: So I went to Harlemburry yesterday the school we went 60 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: to and spoke to the kids there out of the 61 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: different programs, the Stars program and the and what what 62 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 4: that was great for it was be able to sort 63 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 4: of talk to the kids about the opportunity that they 64 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 4: have at the school and to be able to grow that. 65 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: And I think that, you know, you're so much talent 66 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 4: up here at the school. So doing that, you know, 67 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 4: I went and spoke to the Santos team this morning. 68 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 4: So it's just more of going to different schools and 69 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 4: going to Casualina High this afternoon. So just about to 70 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 4: go and talk to the kids about leadership. What I 71 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 4: found in leadership and I was probably just trying to 72 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 4: spread that word of who the Wallabies are, rebunion team, 73 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: what rugby is about, and team sport, and I just. 74 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: Reckon it's so important too for you know, for kids 75 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 2: that are that way inclined when it comes to sport, 76 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: sort of teaching them what sport, what opportunities arise from 77 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: sport in different ways, you know, whether you're talking about 78 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: it sort of being on a grassroots. 79 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: Level where you meeting. 80 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: New people, learning what it's like to be part of 81 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: a team, or then you know, for those who actually 82 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: go away and get to represent the territory or get 83 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: to represent different you know, different teams, how exciting it 84 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: is and how you get to meet new people and 85 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: have different opportunities. 86 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I spoke, you know, as I said, 87 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 4: the Stars Foundation and the Clontar Foundation yesterday at the 88 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 4: school was and all the Indigenous kids that were there, 89 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 4: fantastic kids got you know, their eyes are just wide 90 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 4: open about the opportunities that they have. And I'm saying 91 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 4: to them, I don't be shy. I go and go 92 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: and play teen sports, going you know and being from 93 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 4: put your hand up to speak in front of people 94 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 4: so they get more confidence in their life. 95 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: And then that's the same in team sport. 96 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: If you're a team sport, you have to turn up 97 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 4: the training otherwise you're letting other people down. So you know, 98 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: I played for the Wallabies for about twelve years, traveled 99 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 4: the world, you know, went to Buckingham Palace, met the Queen, 100 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 4: all those things, men Nelson Mandela in South Africa, all 101 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: those leaders that you come across in time. You had 102 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 4: the great opportunity to have a chat to Princess Diana 103 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 4: many years ago when she sort of presented our jerseys 104 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: prior to a Test in Wales. 105 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: So I've ever imagined, like when you're a young kid, 106 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: could you have ever imagined that you'd get to have 107 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: those kind of opportunities through playing sport? 108 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: Not? Not really, No, I mean I grew up in 109 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: a place called Timba, so familiar with. 110 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 111 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 4: So I grew up in timber and going to school there, 112 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden then you move to the 113 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 4: Big Smoke in Brisbane and virtually a year out of 114 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 4: school on playing, you know, as a nineteen year old 115 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 4: playing against a side called the All Blacks and they're 116 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: doing this harker in front of you and you're don't 117 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 4: really know what's going on. All of a sudden, you're 118 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 4: traveling the world representing your country. Not just I find 119 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 4: it was great, but you were representing not just the 120 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: people and friends and family or past players you've played with, 121 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 4: but you're representing people who would one love to play 122 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 4: in an Australian team, but two don't get the opportunity 123 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: and they maybe on a tractor in Longridge or they 124 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 4: maybe somewhere in Roma or and you know, listen to 125 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: the radio or watch the TV when the Wallabies play. 126 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 4: So that's that's the great feeling we get at it 127 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 4: when we used to play the game. 128 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what's really fantas tastic, you know, as 129 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: the years progress here in the territory is whether you're 130 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 2: talking about rugby union, whether you're talking about league or AFL, 131 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: that there's those pathways that are being built now for 132 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: kids that do have the talent to be able to 133 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: sort of travel away if they need to, or stay 134 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: here and try to pursue those sports. 135 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 136 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 4: I think Ozzie RULs has been great, but that the footage, 137 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: those footy codes have done a great jobs. There's so 138 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 4: much talent here and rugby union. You know, we need 139 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: to do better. We need to find those you know, 140 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: Curtly Bill played HEAPO test matches for the Wallabies, and 141 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 4: I think there's not many. There's probably only been I 142 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 4: think ten or twelve indigenous players that have played for 143 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: the Wallaby So we need to find more and find 144 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 4: them around that Orden territory, bring them and put them 145 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 4: in decent programs and give them those opportunities because as 146 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 4: I said, there's a lot of talent. So and then 147 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: they get the chance to travel the world. You look 148 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 4: at you know, the Olympics. Hopefully the Olympics are going 149 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: to be on later this year. And the Australian women's 150 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 4: sevens team won the gold medal at the last Olympics, 151 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: so that the massive expansion of girls playing rugby huge 152 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: in other sports in AFL as well, and I was 153 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 4: kicking things, but rugby union women's sevens. I think it's 154 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: a third or fourth fastest growing sport in the world 155 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 4: now there's so many kids playing it. 156 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: Oh, I think it's. 157 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: Wonderful see the girls out there. You know, when I 158 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: was a kid, I was only allowed to play touch football. 159 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 3: I wasn't I. 160 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 4: Cringe sometimes when they get tackled, and I wouldn't better 161 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: take that to the hit. It's great because mums and 162 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: dads now get the option. There's so many sports that 163 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 4: they can put their boil girl into. And even last 164 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 4: night at training there was a heap of girls. There's 165 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 4: probably a third that's all sound that was there with girls. 166 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 2: Fantastic and great to see. Yeah, yeah, hey, I know 167 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: that you. You always enjoy getting to the territory. You're 168 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 2: saying to me all fair that you are very keen 169 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 2: next time you're here to try and catch a barra. 170 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: Do you know we've got the one million. 171 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 4: Dollar I saw the sign when I came in. So 172 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 4: I love my barrow fishing. I go all the time, 173 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: and I usually goatas at a weeper and bameager and 174 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 4: those sort of places at the top of coinsland. But 175 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: I've never fished up here and dar and so I 176 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: should have stayed this weekend, but I probably wouldn't have 177 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 4: had a wife. After he came back on the Sunday. 178 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: I've been here before days, but I'll have to organize 179 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 4: it next. I want to catch a one meter bart. 180 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 4: I've caught three around ninety two to ninety three centimators. 181 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: So I need to catch that one meter bat. 182 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: He's the place to do it. 183 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: About the million dollars, I just want one. 184 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: Meter bar one. You've got a busy year this year. 185 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: You've just signed on as I understand what you've been 186 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: doing work with Fox Sports and Channel nine now as 187 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: well as that. 188 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: So Fox Sports used to have the rights to the 189 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: broadcast rugby Union and now Channel nine will broadcast rugby 190 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: Union and also what's called STAN Sports. So a lot 191 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 4: of people at home, have you Netflix and have you 192 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: stand so Stan it's about ten dollars a month and 193 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 4: now Stand Sports and extra ten dollars a month for 194 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 4: people to one watch all these different rugby Union games 195 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 4: and also have the opportunity to watch different other. 196 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: Sports as well through Stan Sports. 197 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: So so Channel line through probably a nine gem will 198 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 4: show a rugby game three to Wear on a Saturday 199 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 4: night of Super Rugby and all the other test matches. 200 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: And the great thing about that is it's going to 201 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 4: put more eyeballs on the game, more people watch Free 202 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 4: to Wear, and hopefully more boys and girls you know, 203 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 4: start picking up the rugby ball and playing, which is fantastic. 204 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: So that's what we're looking forward to. You know, I 205 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 4: think the game of rugby's growing, but it's sort of 206 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 4: there's a few people that may have fallen out of 207 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: love with the game. 208 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: We've got to get them to fall back in love. 209 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think it's a good idea. 210 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: Well, former Wallaby rugby union legend, I think you'd have 211 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: to say. And Santos Ambassador Tim Horan. Lovely to have 212 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: you in the studio next morning. 213 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: Thanks Katie. Great to be here. 214 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 4: I've got a little present for as well, not that 215 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: you can see. It's not great for radio, but he's 216 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 4: a Wallaby jersey for. I know you do a lot 217 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 4: of work with the Approstrate Cancer and you've got some 218 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 4: actions coming up, so i'll sign this Australian Wallaby jersey 219 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 4: for you can add it to your action. 220 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: Thank you. 221 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: We've got a luncheon coming up for the It's a 222 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: Blokes Thing Foundation, so that's wonderful. 223 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I really appreciate having me. 224 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: Thank you, and you are listening to Mix one oh 225 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: four point nine's three sixty