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Speaker 1: I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the

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Speaker 1: Marry people. We pay our respects to elders past, present

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Speaker 1: Torres Strait Islander peoples. Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson,

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Speaker 1: and this is the Rise and Conquer Podcast. This is

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Speaker 1: the podcast where we ch have mindset, self development and

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Speaker 1: becoming your higher self mix soon with a lot of laughs,

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Speaker 1: plus behind the scenes of my life running two businesses

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Speaker 1: and being among Think of us as the perfect combo

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Speaker 1: of brunch with your besties mixed with self development. No

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Speaker 1: matter where you are in your journey.

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Speaker 2: We're here to help you be curious, pull yourself out,

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Speaker 2: and embrace radical self awareness.

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Speaker 3: If you're ready to get into the.

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Speaker 2: Driver's seat of your own life and stop letting life

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Speaker 2: pass you by, then you're.

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Speaker 3: In the right place.

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Speaker 4: Hey everyone, welcome back to the R ANDC Podcast. Today

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Speaker 4: we have a very fun episode which is an interview

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Speaker 4: with myself Cooper. For those who may not know me,

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Speaker 4: I'm George's brother and co founder of Naked Harvests. In

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Speaker 4: this interview, I'm answering some questions that you all sent

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Speaker 4: in about my self development journey, how I prioritize things,

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Speaker 4: and even some of my top manifesting.

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Speaker 3: Tips before we get into Cooper. One thing we do

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Speaker 3: every Tuesday is give our listeners recommendations on something they

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Speaker 3: So do you have a weekly recommendation for us?

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Speaker 4: This week? I listen to a book and it's a

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Speaker 4: meditation book. It's called Meds for Manifesting by Wayne Dyer.

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Speaker 3: I love that. That sounds really interesting. My wreck this

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Speaker 3: week is another podcast. It's called Behind the Wall, and

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Speaker 3: it's a specific interview with a man named Ryan Tedder.

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Speaker 3: He is one of the biggest songwriters ever. So he

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Speaker 3: So if you can't make it on TikTok Now in

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Speaker 3: So I thought that was really interesting, very cool, amazing.

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Speaker 3: Let's get into the episode. Cool, welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Are you excited to be here?

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Speaker 3: We're so excited to have you on. I thought for

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Speaker 3: the first episode with you, we'll just your Q and

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Speaker 3: So do you want to start by sort of introducing

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's a pretty big story, try and keep it brief.

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Speaker 4: But yes, thanks for everyone for listening to me. It's

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Speaker 4: really nice to be on here. My name's Cooper. I'm

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Speaker 4: co owner of Razl and Conker. Now with Georgia, I'm exciting. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's that a better background. I I'll go from school.

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Speaker 4: I started to talk to Georgia. I it was cool

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Speaker 4: It just like really got me and changed everything. Because

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Speaker 4: listening to podcasts about people's stories about doing business and

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Speaker 4: kind of what it was for me. It wasn't a purpose.

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00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 3: What would you say your purpose is?

438
00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so like at the time, it was to live

439
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 4: financially free life. That was probably that was my purpose

440
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 4: without kind of knowing it. So like that's more changed

441
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 4: because I have got there, which is that's pretty cool,

442
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 4: but it's really nice yeah, and it's it's it was

443
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 4: the hardest four years I've done. Like the amount of

444
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 4: times I nearly had to sell my house and go

445
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 4: under was too much. You get there because yeah, there's

446
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 4: no failure failure, but if you yeah, you have to

447
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 4: get failure to get success. But anyway, Yeah, so my

448
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 4: purpose now is to be a good dad and a

449
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 4: good husband, and then after that is business related how

450
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 4: to help people.

451
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 3: I love that so much.

452
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, my number one's my family.

453
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: And how when did you realize that purpose? The second one,

454
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 3: the being good dad after being financially free, When did

455
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 3: that one sort of come become more clear to you?

456
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 4: It comes super clear to me last week, so very recently. Yeah,

457
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 4: because I've been trying to figure out my purpose the

458
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: last year. Yeah, Like I love my life, I love

459
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 4: everything I'm doing, and I thought it was more helping people,

460
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 4: but it just didn't quite stick as my number one.

461
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 4: Like I love that and I heard so much from that,

462
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 4: and that's why it's number two. But yeah, my subconscious

463
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 4: has been trying to tell me for a long time,

464
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 4: your family is more important, yeah, which, like they were

465
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 4: always important to me, Like I don't want to say

466
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: they're like on the bottom. Yeah, I've always loved them,

467
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 4: but I haven't really found that true purpose of like, wow,

468
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 4: that's that's it, Like I've been doing it.

469
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a great dad just to be here.

470
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I was a good dad and I did

471
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: my best to the knowledge I had. Yeah, but with

472
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 4: my coach now help me clear a lot of trauma

473
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 4: and stuff that was making me more self centered. Now

474
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 4: it's cleared that and I have a lot more time

475
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 4: for the people I truly love. Yeah, and yeah, to explained,

476
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 4: but yeah, So that's like I just think every day

477
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 4: if I've got something to do or whatever, whatever i'm doing,

478
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 4: I just think what's the most important to me, and

479
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 4: it's my wife and my two kids, and then after

480
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 4: that I can go down from there. So if this

481
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 4: isn't going to help them, then it's not important, I

482
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 4: won't do it.

483
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

484
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's just my number one.

485
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: That's amazing. The next question, how have you navigated boundaries

486
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: when it comes to certain stereotypes, so financial stereotypes or

487
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: mindset or like how you gave up alcohol. How have

488
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: you navigated your goals maybe not meeting society expectations or

489
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: when you're doing something against the grain, how do you

490
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: how do you do it?

491
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 4: I kind of just touched on it. So I start

492
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 4: if all those things, what's most important to me? Yeah,

493
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 4: and that's where I start. So drinking alcohol, it was

494
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: is this going to benefit my family? And it was

495
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 4: a simple no. Like at the time, why I stopped

496
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 4: drinking was was more for my self, like I need

497
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 4: it just because I was going and I was clearing trauma,

498
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 4: and yeah, drinking alcohol heightens everything and it just I

499
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 4: just had to stop. So that's why I stopped. But

500
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 4: I didn't stop to go sober. I just stopped because

501
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 4: it wasn't benefiting me at the time. And then it

502
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 4: just kind of stuck and I figured out that alcohol

503
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 4: suppressed a lot of things for me. So that was

504
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: the bigger picture of like at the time as well,

505
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: like what's most important to me? And it was my family? Yeah, yeah,

506
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 4: so alcohol or like a business thing, I would say

507
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: the same thing, Yeah, is this going to benefit my family?

508
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 4: Or what's most important? Are they okay? First? And then

509
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 4: go down from there and yeah, people catching up with

510
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: me do the same thing. Yeah, like anything in my life,

511
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 4: I would start it what is most important to me?

512
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: So it's always very centered around your purpose and whether

513
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: it will serve it or not. Yep, I love that.

514
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 4: And if your purpose is yourself, let's say it because

515
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 4: you're single, like maybe with you with your family or

516
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 4: like whatever it is, that's like it's not being selfish.

517
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 4: It's it's okay to be selfish in that way. Yeah,

518
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 4: it's okay.

519
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: The next question, what are your non negotiables that you

520
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: put in place weekly in your calendar.

521
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 4: To go into family time?

522
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, so family time every day or once a week

523
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: or I.

524
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 4: Love to give my time to my two boys. I

525
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 4: don't want to take away that time, Like sometimes you

526
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 4: have to, Like sometimes you have to if there's a

527
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 4: big cause of like saying naked harvest is about to

528
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: go under or something, I would put my time into that. Yeah,

529
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 4: because that is for my family. And yeah, I just

530
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 4: need that going to benefit everything. And so it's yeah,

531
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 4: same thing. What is the most important to me right now?

532
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 4: And how do I go from there?

533
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 3: What is that right now? Like weekly, what do you

534
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: have in your calendar?

535
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 4: Or definitely family time in the afternoons, the weekends have

536
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 4: to be just pure family family time. If we go

537
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 4: and see someone, that's we're going to both me and

538
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: my wife both need want to do it.

539
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

540
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 4: I like to have lunches with my wife. That's really

541
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: good for our relationship. And I love to see her

542
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 4: during the day and just makes everything a lot better

543
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: doing activities with birds, my oldest son. And then yeah,

544
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: just and your hobbies.

545
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you like put them in your calendar for

546
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: the week or do you have like a certain day

547
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: that you're like, okay, like Friday afternoon is my hobby

548
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: afternoon and I'll finish work early and then go to

549
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 3: gold for Yeah.

550
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 4: Well I haven't played golf in a while, like a

551
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 4: few months now, because I've substituted it with I'm getting

552
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 4: my helicopter license.

553
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: That's cool.

554
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I've always wanted to do it and

555
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 4: never thought I could do it.

556
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

557
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 4: But then just the way, yeah, pretty much my coach.

558
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 4: But it's opened up that avenue of my life. And

559
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 4: because I was playing golf, but I was like ask

560
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: those questions of like, what is this actually benefiting for me?

561
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 4: So I used to go to golf to have some

562
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 4: beers and talk shit. Yeah, now I'm not drinking and

563
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 4: I don't really want to talk shit. Yeah, So I

564
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 4: was like going to golf, and I'm like, I'm not

565
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 4: going to golf to be a pro. So I'm like,

566
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 4: it just didn't seem important to me. So I don't

567
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 4: mind going to golf here and there with people that

568
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 4: are interesting. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, But to get my

569
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: helicopter license would be pretty cool, yea. The idea in

570
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 4: my head is like to take my family out to

571
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 4: a holiday destination faster, and to live an extraordinary life.

572
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 4: That's another thing I'd always try and do as well,

573
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: Like to live an extraordinary life. That'd be pretty cool. Yeah,

574
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 4: and I'm trying to do that.

575
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: That's so cool. So you got that in weekly now

576
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: or like whenever you're more.

577
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 4: The lessons there once a week, twice a week, so

578
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 4: that's probably. Yeah, that's my hobby at the moment, and

579
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 4: then my family's my hobby as well. Yeah. I really

580
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 4: enjoy it. I just love it, which is I probably

581
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 4: haven't said that in my life so nice. I've had

582
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 4: all these other things I do, But yeah, I enjoy it.

583
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 3: What are you most grateful right now for right now

584
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 3: other than your family? Just to put a spanner.

585
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: In the looks, I actually said this to my wife

586
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 4: yesterday asked three things, like what are you grateful for?

587
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 4: And that's a really good practice to do daily. What

588
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: are you grateful for? If it's one, if it's three

589
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 4: a day. That's what my coaches help me do as well,

590
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 4: and you kind of get in a rhythm. I'm doing it,

591
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 4: so I have to say, not my family, Like the

592
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 4: bigger picture, what I'm grateful is my life that I've

593
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 4: built to be where I am right now, to have

594
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,959
Speaker 4: the people around me doing what I'm doing, Like that's

595
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 4: a really big picture of gratitude. Like I'm over the

596
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 4: moon with how everything is going and how I've shaped everything.

597
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: So it's like a big grateful thing. I'm just so

598
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 4: grateful to have the knowledge I have as well to

599
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 4: be able to give this give my knowledge to my son.

600
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 4: I'm very grateful for where I am right now.

601
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: For sure, that's awesome. And then how do you negotiate

602
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 3: your time or like work with ash so that both

603
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: of you can sort of get in your non negotiables

604
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: every week so that she could have maybe solo time

605
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: if she needs solo time to fill her cup, or

606
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: you can all make sure you have family time together.

607
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: How does that sort of work for you?

608
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: Both by telling each other exactly how we feel. Like

609
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 4: me and Ash, we talk about everything. There's no secrets,

610
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 4: there's nothing, So our relationship is on a different level. Yeah,

611
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 4: Like I talk to her like six to eight times

612
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 4: a day during the day, Like I just whenever i'm

613
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 4: I can call her, I call her, which yeah, Georgia

614
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 4: was just stop calling. I'm like, I'm just so used

615
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 4: to it. And yeah, So like we tell each other

616
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 4: our feelings, and when we don't feel right, we know

617
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 4: about it and I can I can sense it from her,

618
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: Like we're just so connected on that deeper level that

619
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 4: when something's up, like I just I know, I know,

620
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 4: and when she vice versa like yeah, So just to

621
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 4: tell each other our feelings, which is like a massive thing.

622
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 4: I feel like in society people don't tell their feelings. Yeah,

623
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 4: and it's very confronting and it's yeah, very difficult. But

624
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 4: to actually do that, take that step, you'll get a

625
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 4: lot in life, You'll get, yeah, what you need. So yeah,

626
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 4: that helps because I know exactly what she's thinking.

627
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 3: All the time.

628
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it helps with those things.

629
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 3: And our last two questions that we ask all our guests.

630
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 3: Number one, what is the best piece of advice you've

631
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: ever been given right now? Yeah, is.

632
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 4: Do the dow today?

633
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 3: The what.

634
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 4: It's the name of the book, he says it like

635
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 4: every every verse and yeah, what does that mean? So

636
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 4: such a big question. But to let things be, not

637
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 4: overreact to things, like when we have massive feelings that

638
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 4: overwhelm us, to let them be, like when we always

639
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 4: have like bad things happen in our life. So whenever

640
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 4: there's something bad that happens to you, there's always good,

641
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 4: no matter what. They will always like, I'll guarantee there's good.

642
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 4: So like you can do it to yourself, like when

643
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 4: as like a bad memory has happened, you don't have

644
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 4: to do it but this word. But like if you

645
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 4: want to do that to yourself, Like if there's a

646
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 4: bad memory you in your brain, you will think there's

647
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 4: no good, like it's bad because it's bad memory. But

648
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 4: challenge yourself, write down what good has come from it?

649
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: And there is so much good every bad thing. Like,

650
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 4: so when something bad happens in your life, if it's

651
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 4: really bad, there's going to be some serious good following it.

652
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: I love it.

653
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 4: You can't have good without bad. Yeah, vice versatile, like

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Speaker 3: And what is one core belief you hold close to

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Speaker 3: your heart.

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Speaker 4: To be honest and true yourself like. To be honest

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Speaker 4: is a massive skill to have. And if you are honest,

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Speaker 4: nothing can hurt you. Yeah, no feelings can hurt you

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Speaker 4: because you've been You've been honest. Yeah, been true and

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Speaker 4: being real.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for coming on the podcast. Cooper's right. We've

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Speaker 3: loved having you on And if anybody ever has any

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Speaker 3: and we can start doing some more episodes with Cooper

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Speaker 3: because I'm sure you'll all love hearing his advice on

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Speaker 3: topics what Thanks so much, thanks for listening.

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