1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Already and this is the daily This is the daily art, 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: this is the daily Ohs. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 2: Oh now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: the Daily Ohs. It's Wednesday, the eleventh of February. I'm 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: Emma Gillespie, I'm Lucy Tussel. Police clashed with demonstrators in 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: Sydney CBDA on Monday evening after protesters turned out to 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: demonstrate against Israeli President Isaac Hertzog's Australian visit. Videos shared 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: on social media show New South Wales police pepper spraying, 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: arresting and beating protesters. 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: What we saw last night was something I never ever 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 1: thought I would witness with my own eyes on our 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: streets here in Sydney. 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: We demand clear answers from the New Southwest Government, from 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: the premiere of New South Wales, Chris Means, and the 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: New South Wales Police, and with demand for AMEDIA action. 16 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: Ten people rested for assaulting New South Wales police officers 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, New South Wales 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: Police are not punching bags. 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: Organizers had hoped to march through the city, but a 20 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 2: decision in the New South Wales Supreme Court upheld additional 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: powers granted to police to restrict protests. In today's deep dive, 22 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: we'll explain what happened, who Isaac Herzog is, why his 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: visit has divided politicians and community groups, and what to 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: expect over the coming days. 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 4: Emma, we knew this protest was going ahead on Monday 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 4: evening despite a failed court challenge from organizers. But before 27 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 4: we get into all of that, can you take us 28 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 4: back a few steps to where this story actually starts. 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: Yes. 30 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: So in order to do that, Lucy, we need to 31 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: talk about a man named Isaac Hertzog. Now, he is 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: Israel's president. That is a largely ceremonial role, separate from 33 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: the Prime minister position. That is a role held by 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: Benjamin Nettan Yahu. The Israeli president serves as the head 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: of state. They're elected by the Kannesset, Israel's parliament, to 36 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: basically represent national unity and care values. I've heard the 37 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: presidential role compared to Australia's governor general. I think a 38 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: helpful comparison. Like I said, a largely ceremonial role. 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 5: Now. 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: Herzog entered the Kannesset in two thousand and three as 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: a Labor Party member. He led the party from twenty 42 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: thirteen to twenty eighteen, and he was elected president in 43 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. So he's held the role for some time. 44 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 4: And he's in Australia. Now why is he here. 45 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: So he arrived in Australia on Monday for a four 46 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: day visit and he's here on an invitation from the 47 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: Albanese government. The Prime Minister arranged this visit in the 48 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: wake of the Bondai terror attack, when fifteen people were 49 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: killed at a Huniker celebration on Bondai Beach on the 50 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: fourteenth of December. Albanize said he invited Herzog to Australia 51 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: to mourn with and support the Jewish community essentially. But 52 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: as we will get into there has been significant pushback 53 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: surrounding this invitation and now, of course the actual visit. 54 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: Okay, So can you explain a little bit more about 55 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: this pushback. Why has there been opposition to his visit. 56 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: There are a few key reasons and they largely center 57 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: around Herzog's role in Israel's war in Gaza, as well 58 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: as the fact that as president, he is seen as 59 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: a representative of the Israeli government, as a representative of 60 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: Benjamin Nette and Yahoo. So there's that kind of symbolism 61 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: as well. But in terms of Herzog's actions, specifically in 62 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: the days after Hamas's deadly October seven attack on an 63 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: Israeli music festival, Herzog said an entire nation of Ghazan's 64 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: was responsible. At the time, he claimed, quote this retoric 65 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: about civilians who were not aware or not involved is 66 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: absolutely not true. That same year, twenty twenty three, he 67 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: was also photographed signing an Israeli artillery shell intended for Gaza. 68 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: But last week, on reflection, he old nine newspapers that 69 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: the incident was a tasteless error, okay. In September twenty 70 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: twenty five, the UN independent International Commission of Inquiry named 71 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: Herzog as one of several Israeli leaders who quote incited 72 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: the commission of genocide in Gaza through public statements. Now 73 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: as a signatory to various international human rights treaties, Some 74 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: legal and human rights groups have argued in recent weeks 75 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: that Australia has an obligation to investigate or arrest Herzog 76 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: during his visit here because of that UN investigation, because 77 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: of those previous statements he's made. It is important to note, though, 78 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: that the Australian Federal Police did seek legal advice on 79 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: this and they said they wouldn't be arresting Herzog during 80 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: this visit and that they would not be opening a case. 81 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I guess that would be different to how 82 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 4: the International Criminal Court has an active arrest warrant for 83 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 4: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, So if he came here, Australia 84 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 4: would be bound to arrest him because we're a part 85 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: to these national Criminal Court. 86 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an important distinction, I think. Yeah. 87 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 4: So you said the Albanzi government invited Herzog. How have 88 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 4: Australian officials responded to this pushback? 89 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: So leading up to the visit this week we heard 90 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: federal and state leaders really defending Herzog's trip to Australia, 91 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: and that included the Prime Minister as well as New 92 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: South Wales Premier Chris Mins. Albanizi said the visit was 93 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: about supporting Australia's Jewish community at quote what has been 94 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: a very difficult time. Foreign Minister Penny Wong also said 95 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: that now is a really important time to listen to 96 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: the Jewish community quote, in the wake of the worst 97 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: on Soil terrorist attack, an anti Semitic attack that we've 98 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: seen in Australia's history. Peak Jewish bodies also welcomed the visit. 99 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: The Executive Council of Australian Jury said that it will 100 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: quote lift the spirits of a pained community. However, some 101 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: smaller Jewish groups have opposed the visit and have vocally 102 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: criticized the invitation. The Jewish Council of Australia said the 103 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: government was using quote Jewish grief as a political prop 104 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: and backdrop some members. You know, despite this kind of 105 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: sentiment that we've heard from Albanesi and Chris Mins, some 106 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: members of both Federal and New South Wales Labor expressed 107 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 2: opposition to the visit. Okay, Federal Labor MP Ed Husick 108 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 2: told the ABC that he was very uncomfortable with Hertzel 109 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: coming to Australia and said he was quote concerned that 110 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: a figure like that doesn't necessarily enhance social cohesion. 111 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: Right. 112 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: So I guess, Lucy, what I'm trying to say is 113 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: there have been mixed feelings, mixed reactions about this visit 114 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: across parliaments and communities, and all of this kind of 115 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 2: culminated in these nationwide rallies. In protest of the visit 116 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: this week. Now, importantly that included a major Sydney demonstration 117 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: which we saw unfold on Monday despite warnings of potential 118 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: arrests under special police powers. 119 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 4: Emma will get into what happened at that protest in 120 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: a moment, but first a quick word from our sponsor. Okay, 121 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 4: let's turn to the protests. Now, what do we need 122 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: to know about those additional police powers you mentioned and 123 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: how did that end up coming into play on Monday night. 124 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is kind of a twofold issue. After 125 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: the Bondi attack, New South Wales police were actually granted 126 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: new powers to shut down protests for an initial period 127 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: of three months, with options to extend. So that was December, 128 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: it's now February. But in addition to those extra powers, 129 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: the New South Wales premier announced that Herzog's visit would 130 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: be classified as something called a major event. Now, the 131 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: reason that is important is it grants police powers usually 132 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: reserved for major sporting or citywide events where masses of 133 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: people are expected in one place all up, these additional 134 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: police powers mean that demonstrators in New South Wales at 135 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: this time aren't protected from certain offenses such as obstructing 136 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: traffic for example. They are offenses that are usually waived 137 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: in permitted protests, So when a government gives a green 138 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: light to a demonstration going ahead, protesters are afforded certain 139 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: specific rights in those moments. In the instance of this 140 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: week's demonstrations in New South Wales, they do not exist. 141 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: So the warning from New South Wales police leading up 142 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: to the Sydney protest on Monday was that anyone who 143 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: chose to attend risked being arrested. That was the message 144 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: loud and clear. The protest organizes, the Palestine Action Group, 145 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: tried to overturn these additional police powers, but they ended 146 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: up losing a last minute court appeal to overturn the 147 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 2: protest ban on Monday afternoon. 148 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 4: But then the protest went ahead anyway, it being a protest, 149 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 4: I think this was probably an expected outcome. Can you 150 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: take us through what happened? 151 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: Well, exactly as you've mentioned, Lucy, it was to be 152 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: expected that thousands of people turned out to demonstrate against 153 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: Herzog's visit at Sydney's Town Hall that's in the CBD 154 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: on Monday evening, and pretty quickly we saw major clashes 155 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: between police and protesters. Several officers were seen using aggressive 156 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: tactics to disperse the crowds, while pepper spray was widely deployed. 157 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: Videos posted to social media show a man being repeatedly 158 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: punched in the stomach by officers. Other videos showed a 159 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: group of Muslim men who were leading a prayer before 160 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: they were dragged away by police. The Australian National im 161 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: UM's Council said it was shocking, deeply disturbing and entirely unacceptable. 162 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: We heard from New South Wales Green's MP Abigail Boyd. 163 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: She said she was assaulted by three police officers near 164 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: that prayer group that I mentioned. Boyd posted to Instagram saying, 165 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: quote what was an entirely peaceful rally filled with solidarity, 166 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: love and compassion became a brutal assault on countless innocent civilians. 167 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 2: Boyd has promised to hold offices and quote the politicians 168 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: who empowered them to account. 169 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 4: I've also seen an Instagram post from her where she's 170 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: wearing a neck brace and lying down, which she said 171 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 4: was as a result of the alleged assault at the protest, 172 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 4: and she captioned it with I blame you Chrismins. So 173 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 4: what have police said about the incident. 174 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: New South Wales Police is standing by the actions of 175 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 2: its officers. It said twenty seven people were arrested, including 176 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: ten for assaulting police, and on Tuesday afternoon we got 177 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: an update when New South Wales Police confirmed nine people 178 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: have been charged. They're aged between nineteen and sixty seven 179 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: years old and they've been charged with a range of 180 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: offenses including assaulting a police officer, resisting arrest and failing 181 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: to comply with directions from police. We heard from the 182 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: New South Wales Police Commissioner Mal Lanyon. He described demonstrators 183 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: as a volatile crowd. Now you might have seen some 184 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: vision of police charging towards protesters. Lanyon was asked about 185 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: this and he said, quote, the police did what they 186 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: needed to do, which was to hold the line and 187 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: then form and move the protesters back with a view 188 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: of dispersing them. Now that account has been contradicted by protesters' accounts. 189 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: Here's a little bit of what New South Wales Police 190 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: Assistant Commissioner Peter McKenna said right after the protests on 191 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: Monday night. 192 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 5: It got to a point where officers were being threatened, 193 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 5: jostled and assaulted and we had to enact powers to 194 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 5: move that crowd on and to rick them out of 195 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 5: the CBD. Ten police officers are sold and I'm really 196 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 5: upset about it. 197 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 4: How have New South Wales and federal governments responded well. 198 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: The Premier, Chris Mins, has taken a similar approach as 199 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: the New South Wales Police Commissioner. He said that police 200 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: were put in an impossible position on Monday night. He 201 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: held a press conference on Tuesday morning right after these events. 202 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 2: Here's what Chris Mins told media. 203 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: The protesters refuse a reasonable request to stage their protest 204 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: if I part have a lawful, prominent protest down College Tree. 205 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: As a result of that, in transigence, there was a 206 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: conflict in Sippy's streets by New South Wales Police's proportionate 207 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: response was designed to keep the public safe in incredibly 208 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: difficult circumstances. 209 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: So as you heard there. Similarly to the Police Commissioner, 210 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 2: Means has really defended the actions of police. The Prime 211 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: Minister also addressed the conflict. Anthony Albanezi called it disheartening 212 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: and said he was devastated by the scenes of violence 213 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 2: in Sydney, but he did emphasize that prior to the rally, 214 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: police had been clear about the limits they would be imposing. 215 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: Quote. 216 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: The causes are not advanced by these sorts of scenes. 217 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: Indeed their undermined, said the Prime Minister. We have heard 218 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: from some opposition politicians too. Liberal MP Andrew Bragg said 219 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: the protests were in terrible taste and a disgrace. We've 220 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 2: also heard from Liberal Senators James Patterson and Michaylia Cash. 221 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: They both backed Herzog's visit last week. Patterson said it 222 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: was the right thing for the government to have invited him. Now, 223 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: I wanted to touch on a joint statement from the 224 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: New South Wales and Federal Greens, who've actually said they're 225 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: planning on referring the actions of New South Wales police 226 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: to the Law Enforcement Conduct Commission, so to an official 227 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: body for review. That statement said, quote, a lawful and 228 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: peaceful public assembly was set upon with state violence because 229 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 2: arbitrary and excessive special powers were granted to police. 230 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 4: Just before we wrap up, while all of this was 231 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 4: going on, Isaac Herzog was at a separate event. What 232 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 4: do we know about that? 233 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: Yes, So, thousands of people demonstrated against Hertzog in town 234 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 2: Hall and just down the road at the Sydney Convention Center, 235 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: thousands of others were applauding him. Herzog spoke at this 236 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: event honoring the Bondai attack victims, where he told the 237 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: crowd quote, the hatred that triggered the shooting at Bondai 238 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: is the very same old age antisemitism endured by our 239 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: parents and grandparents. His address was very much centered around 240 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: the events in Bondai, around the Terrorism Act, and around 241 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: anti Semitism in the community more broadly. He didn't really 242 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: address the protests directly himself. Instead, he noted, quote, we 243 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: will never forget the extraordinary, ordinary people who demonstrated humanity 244 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: by running towards the fire on the fourteenth of December. 245 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: He said to all the heroes of Bondi, every one 246 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: of you has the deep admiration, respect and prayers of 247 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: the Israeli people. You are the finest of Australia. 248 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 4: You mentioned at the top of the episode that this 249 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 4: is a four day visit. He arrived on Monday, It's 250 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 4: now Wednesday. What are we expecting during these final days? 251 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: So officials have kept the details of much of this 252 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: visit kind of as private as possible until the last minute. 253 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: That is for obvious security reasons. Everywhere Herzog is traveling 254 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: to and has traveled to, has required a significant security presence, 255 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: but since his arrival he's met with lots of community groups. 256 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: He's met with Bondai survivors, the families of VI victims. 257 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: He's scheduled to arrive in Canberra today where he'll meet 258 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: with the Prime Minister before heading to Melbourne. We are seeing, 259 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: as I mentioned, a massive police presence pretty much everywhere 260 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: the Israeli president goes, but we're also seeing more protest 261 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: action in equal measure, so demonstrations are expected to continue 262 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: in the city's Hertzog is visiting, and rally organizes in 263 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: Sydney have vowed to continue protesting against the visit despite 264 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: the recent clash with police. 265 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 4: Emma, thank you for walking us through all of that 266 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 4: today and thank you for joining us. We'll be back 267 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 4: this evening with the headlines. Until then, have a good day. 268 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 4: My name is Lily Madden and I'm a proud Arunda 269 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: Bunje Lung Kalkuttin woman from Gadighl country. The Daily oz 270 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 4: acknowledges that this podcast is recorded on the lands of 271 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 4: the Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and 272 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 4: Torres Strait Island and nations. We pay our respects to 273 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 4: the first peoples of these countries, both past and present.