1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: All right, so it's all happening at the Vatican in 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: the sixteenth Chapel. As I'm still having a hard time 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: coming to terms with the girl on Maths who talked 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: about the sixteenth Chapel. 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: That's so funny, isn't it. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Well, it would be. 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: Very busy. It is the fourteenth. 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: I fluctuate between my head off and crying like a baby. 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Not the l just keep going steenth Chapel. Hanna Sinclair 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: is Channel nine's correspondent joining us from the Vatican City. Hannah, 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: good morning. 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 3: Good morning, guys. 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: It is mourning for us anyway. Gosh, how many people 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: are how many media are in attendance right. 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: Now over there? It is pretty chaotic over here, guys. 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: I think they said there's about four thousand journalists wow, 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: currently in the world. Media des sendered on Rome and 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: with the cardinals. It was the last time everyone got 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 3: to sort of ask their questions to them today and 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: that the press packs you'll see on the news, you know, dozens, 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: it's not almost one hundred journalists, cameraman you know, crowding 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: these cardinals as they're sort of having their last few 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: hours of freedom before they of course get locked in 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 3: the Sistine Chapel for the conclaves. 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: Right, So they're saying the biggest conclave ever hand, I mean, 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: how many cardinals have gathered. 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 3: So there's one hundred and thirty three cardinal electives that 28 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 3: are of course under the age of eighty that will 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: be going in to take part in the conclave, and 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: only one of them, of course, will emerge, is the 31 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty seventh Hope. There's a few favorites, 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: but as they say with conclaves, you know that the 33 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: favorites a lot of the time actually don't end up 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: being the pope. So there's some on the conservative side, 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: there's some on the progressive side. There's a one in particular, 36 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: Lewis Taglay, Cardinal Lewis Taglay, who the ever accessionally coined 37 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 3: the Asian Francis. So he's got similar sort of views 38 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: and operating style to of course the late Pope Francis. 39 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 3: He's a favorite amongst they're also Cardinal Pietro Carolyn, who 40 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: was Pope Francis, is second in charge, if you will. 41 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: He's Italian, so you know he he's sort of been 42 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 3: around the traps a long time, and he's another he's 43 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: another contender. But it's one of those things where they're 44 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 3: all saying, as we ask them, or who you know, 45 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 3: who's it going to be? And they they're all saying, 46 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: we don't know, you know, you don't know until you 47 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: get in there. 48 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: Is it like a private kind of vote? Is it 49 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: a bit like being in a court room where they 50 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: count them up and say, no, we've got to go again. 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: I mean, how how does it work? 52 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: Oh, it's you know, it's a very ancient and secret process. 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: They've effectively transformed Assistine Chapel into a bunker. They have 54 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: put channing devices in there. No so they can't yet, 55 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 3: no phone. It's a complete technological blackout. You know. Even 56 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: the staff that are working there. There's about one hundred 57 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: you know, cleaners, books, doctors. They aren't even going to 58 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: be able to contact their families the whole time they're 59 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 3: in there, because yeah, that's it. So it's is. Yeah, 60 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: it's a very secret process. And once they're in there, 61 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: they you know, cast their ballots, the ballots get counted. 62 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: For there to be a new pope, they have they 63 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: have to have two thirds of the vote, so in 64 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: this case that's eighty nine votes. Someone needs to get 65 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: to become hope. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then of course 66 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: they burned the ballots. And if they don't have a pope, 67 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: it's the black smoke. If we do have a pope, 68 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: it's that white smoke. 69 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: And I believe that chemicals, just to make sure there's 70 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: no confusion, because once there was a bit of confusion, 71 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: like is that white? We can't work it out what's 72 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: going on with I read today that back in the 73 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: thirteenth century there was a conclave that lasted two years 74 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: and nine months. I don't think that will be the case. 75 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: They usually last what about four days. 76 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: Hannah, Yeah, they yeah, Well, guys are check macking on me, 77 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: and not three years time that's the case, because I 78 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: could will be at Rome. So no, I don't think 79 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: that'll be the case. The average is three days, but 80 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: in recent times it's been even less than that, so 81 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: it's been you know, hours on occasion really so yeah, 82 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: so well everyone's saying they're thinking it's going to be 83 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: two days, okay, because yeah, well yeah, and you know, 84 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 3: there's this sort of rhetoric around that if they don't 85 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 3: make a decision quickly, it almost suggests there's division, and 86 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 3: they obviously are going to want to portray that to 87 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: the world. Yeah, you would imagine, Yeah, you would imagine 88 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 3: those conversations are being had behind closed doors to make 89 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: sure that, you know, people are starting to be on 90 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: the same page. I don't know. 91 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we've just had the federal election here and no, 92 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: not in the Vatican. We've just had the federal election, 93 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: and that what you know. Of course, the white paper 94 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 2: with the white ballot paper was you need a tree 95 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: for each of those, for each of us. But I 96 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: believe that the ballot paper is tiny, that these these 97 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: cardinals are filling out. Do you know much about the 98 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: technical side. 99 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: Of that, the technical side of the paper? I mean, 100 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: I don't have the back sent to me to measure this. 101 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: That's what you're after, Is that what you're. 102 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: No, I just if you knew much more about how 103 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: intricate it was, because it sounds tiny. 104 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well it's just yeah, they well they 105 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: write their names obviously on the on the ballot. I'm 106 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 3: not their name who they want, hope, Yeah, and then 107 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: uh yeah, it gets counted and then those ballots get 108 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: burned in a stove and that's stove and the chimney 109 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: attached to the Sistine Chapel, that gets get that gets brought in, 110 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 3: that's not there all the time. So that has actually 111 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: been brought in and that has been set up in 112 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,559 Speaker 3: the past few days in preparation for this, which actually 113 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: a lot of people are quite surprised, but I was 114 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: when I went into the Sistine Chapel. I yeah, like 115 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: many people, was like, oh, there's a stove, but yeah, 116 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: it's not in there. It's not in there all the time. Yes, 117 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: of course, so that's all been brought in, and yeah, 118 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: then it gets learn to gets those chemicals added their 119 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: different chemicals, as you guys rightly wanted out to make 120 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: to make sure that those colors are very obvious, because 121 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: I think I must have seen the same coverage that 122 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: you were thing, but especially at nighttime. 123 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 4: At night time, it can be very hard to tell, 124 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: and it will be interesting being here to see how 125 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 4: obvious it is, or if it is hard to see initially. 126 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: What color it is, if it's until it's really trans. 127 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: Wide, it will be interesting. It's a bit of a 128 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: once in a lifetime opportunity, really, Hannah to be there 129 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: for this, I reckon and you will have all the 130 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: updates in Channel nine's news at six o'clock. Thanks