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Speaker 1: Get A.

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Speaker 2: I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, and professional overshaer.

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Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe

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Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face

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Speaker 2: our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a different guest

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Speaker 2: about their.

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Speaker 1: Highs as well as they're lows, all.

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Speaker 2: In a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail.

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Speaker 1: Get A. I have a mate on the pod today.

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Speaker 2: Whenever I've got a mate on the pod, I get

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Speaker 2: really nervous doing the intro. So this is my second

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Speaker 2: take because I just effed up the other one. So

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Speaker 2: here goes Sally O'Neil, aka the Fit Foodie. She's a nutritionist,

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Speaker 2: she's an incredible food stylist, she's a photographer, and probably

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Speaker 2: a million and one other things, but that's mainly what

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Speaker 2: we really.

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Speaker 1: Focus on the nutrition and health part of her life.

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Speaker 2: Here trigger warning, we do talk about author REXI Are

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Speaker 2: and don't let that deter you though, because she talks

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Speaker 2: about in such a positive way and how it's made

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Speaker 2: her grow and learn and work on herself. Also, if

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Speaker 2: you're a nutrition and health nerd, this episode.

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Speaker 1: Is for you.

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Speaker 2: We talk about the nitty gritty what supplements Sally's passionate about.

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Speaker 2: I've also even had a consult with her as a client,

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Speaker 2: and Sally is my nutritionist, so I can vouch she's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I hope you love this chat.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, here's a health nutrition one oh one chat

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Speaker 2: that I hope you love.

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Speaker 1: Sally O'Neil.

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Speaker 2: We've just had a little chin wag and catch up

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Speaker 2: and all the good things, all.

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Speaker 3: The good things.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, if I don't hit records zoon, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna end up go on, shit, we're gonna miss the

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Speaker 2: premiere because we won't have done the potto.

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Speaker 3: Five hours later. Right, good cat chips the babe.

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Speaker 2: I want to cover a bit of everything today. So

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Speaker 2: I have a fellow nutritionist in the podroom with.

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Speaker 1: Me, so I'm really pumped.

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Speaker 2: I heard you be interviewed about all your favorite supplements

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Speaker 2: and I was like, I take that all.

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Speaker 1: I take that.

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Speaker 2: So I kind of want to pick your brains about

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Speaker 2: what people should be taking. I know it's hard, obviously

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Speaker 2: we can't prescribe anything, but just like, it can get

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Speaker 2: really overwhelmeding, even for me. I don't know about you,

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Speaker 2: but sometimes I'm like, holy shit, I'm rattling I'm taking

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Speaker 2: so much stuff and then I have to just like

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Speaker 2: put it all aside for a week and re evaluate.

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Speaker 1: So I cannot wait to talk to you about that stuff.

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Speaker 2: But also, you've had a really cool health journey, and

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Speaker 2: I feel like our timelines are a bit similar, where

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Speaker 2: we both have struggled with certain things a lot, both

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Speaker 2: personal and professor you know that have seeped into profession

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Speaker 2: because we are in the health world. So first things first,

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Speaker 2: the accent gives it away.

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Speaker 1: You're not from here.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: I love your accent, you know, mate.

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Speaker 3: I've tried to get rid of it a thousand times.

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Speaker 1: No I can't.

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Speaker 3: I just won't leave me. It's for life.

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Speaker 4: It's Yorkshire from the nice No, it's not even the

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Speaker 4: nice end of England, you know.

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Speaker 1: Like about it. It's like a Jamie Oliver.

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Speaker 4: It's the scruffy north end and it's from think like

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Speaker 4: Billy Elliott Mine in town.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's me.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I loved you even when you said yes this podcast.

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Speaker 2: I said to my boyfriend Matt, I.

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Speaker 1: Was like, yes, Sally said yes.

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Speaker 2: We get her accent on the podcast too, So I

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Speaker 2: love it. I've heard you say you don't love it,

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Speaker 2: but mate, I love it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to pick up more Ossie slang as

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Speaker 4: I go, but I've been here eleven years now and

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Speaker 4: it's all I've got is arvo and AVO and that's

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Speaker 1: I love how you say yogurt, yogurt, yogurt. Yeah, yogurt, yogurt, yogurt, garage, garage,

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Speaker 1: so fun.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, So I'll try not to say those two.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, mate, you say it as much as you want.

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Speaker 2: So you've been in Australia for eleven years.

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Speaker 2: Holy Matt wild you got here and you couldn't cook much,

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Speaker 3: Couldn't cook a thing.

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Speaker 4: Actually I could microwave the hell out of everything, but

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Speaker 3: I would just put it in the microwave.

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Speaker 4: So shout out to Jamie for keeping me alive until

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Speaker 4: I was twenty four. But beyond that, yeah, I had

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Speaker 4: Of my health journey was twenty four years old, which's embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: I have to ask, is it true that your mom,

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Speaker 2: if she'd make smet spag bawl, would she put jam

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Speaker 3: Guys? Yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 4: So it's honestly, I feel like we should get her

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Speaker 3: He so apparently English people do do this.

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Speaker 4: The sweetness balances the savory and it like brings out

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Speaker 4: the flavor of the meat. So she puts jam in

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Speaker 2: Makes sound like from a flavor perspective, that makes sense,

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Speaker 2: Like you've seen people put a little bit of something

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Speaker 3: Like, it was nearly sugar though, right, not jam.

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Speaker 2: It's not usually jam No, but think about when you're

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Speaker 2: having chocolate, Like all the rage is like with salts.

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Speaker 4: Correct, it's the balance right of the salty sweet and

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Speaker 4: I get that, But the put in just pure sugary

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Speaker 4: jam in Bolonaser's bit random, to be honest, and that

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Speaker 1: Thanks, is that part of your twenties? I feel okay?

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Speaker 2: Well for me anyway, I was like learning, So you're

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Speaker 3: Paying no attention to it a lot of the time

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Speaker 2: but you used to have panic attacks heaps.

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Speaker 4: So actually it got passed down to me, I think

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Speaker 4: So got my results on that day, went out for

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Speaker 4: a few cheeky bevies and had a massive panic attack

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Speaker 3: I thought I was like being rat. Excuse me.

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Speaker 4: I thought I had been drugged in my drink, like

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Speaker 4: a date rape drag, a date rape thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like.

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Speaker 4: What somebody, somebody's put something in my drink and my

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Speaker 4: whole body was convulsing and I was like frothing at

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Speaker 4: but they were very frequent, and then I got put

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Speaker 4: medication like Benzo's, then you also need to go and

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Speaker 4: see a therapist. And the therapist said to me, you

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Speaker 4: need to go to the gym to burn off your

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Speaker 4: which was solid advice, I have to say from the

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Speaker 4: therapist lifestyle intervention. And I did that and then that

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Speaker 4: was the beginning of my relationship with a gym because I've.

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Speaker 3: Never been to one, but it really helps.

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Speaker 1: And now it's like one of your bigger passions.

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Speaker 4: It's the only persions they only, but it's the one

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Speaker 3: And some people are like, oh my god, the gym's awful.

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Speaker 3: It's it's almost like having a coffee in the morning.

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Speaker 4: It's that like clarity and it brings me calm and

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Speaker 4: a good headspace totally. So I do notice the days

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Speaker 4: little bit kind of like, I don't know if I

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Speaker 4: you have to have rest days. But yeah, it's it

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Speaker 1: You're also a go go, go, go, go, go, go,

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Speaker 1: What do we want to do? We don't want to

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Speaker 2: But within it's so necessary on every kind of level.

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Speaker 2: So is it true that like okay, and I know

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Speaker 1: So I love it with ways.

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Speaker 2: But you get to Australia and you're like, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to start doing some recipes, send them to my fan

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Speaker 2: back home, and that is where literally the Fit Footy

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Speaker 4: So in summary, what actually happened was I messaged my mom.

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Speaker 4: And I came out and I'm on the phone twin

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Speaker 4: I'm literally going to starve like or I'm gonna eat

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Speaker 4: cereal for the next year, right yeah, And so she's like, cool,

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Speaker 4: I'll send you like a stir frying of bolonnaise and whatever.

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Speaker 4: And when she sent the recipes over, that's when I

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Speaker 4: saw that there's jam in the bolonnaise right to come

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Speaker 4: full so call on that topic and so I essentially

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Speaker 4: what I call health for fied the recipe. So I

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Speaker 4: just took out stuff that I thought was unnecessary, right

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, oh, this is weird.

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Speaker 4: And so I then set up a I actually would

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Speaker 4: emailing recipes back to marm saying, you know, you don't

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Speaker 1: It's like a.

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Speaker 4: food here for sure, And it's warmer and everybody's outside

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00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,800
Speaker 4: and be more active and stuff, And so my interest

444
00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:54,000
Speaker 4: sparked there. But because my body did change naturally, I

445
00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,399
Speaker 4: got loads of compliments on social media, right, which is

446
00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,440
Speaker 4: the dopamine hit now that we know, And I was.

447
00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:00,320
Speaker 3: Like, yes, is great.

448
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,639
Speaker 4: I love this, And so I continued to not, Oh,

449
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,240
Speaker 4: I think I might go to the gym a couple

450
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,639
Speaker 4: of extra you know sessions a week. And then it

451
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 4: became oll, if I just don't have brecky, then, you know,

452
00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,199
Speaker 4: I seemed to propel my results and if I do

453
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,359
Speaker 4: this and I walk this many steps and blah blah,

454
00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,119
Speaker 4: and it just snowballed.

455
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:17,760
Speaker 3: Right, and it just got worse.

456
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,440
Speaker 4: And meanwhile, so I think I was fifty six kilos.

457
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,680
Speaker 4: I don't know what that is in pounds and whatever anymore.

458
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 4: But I dropped the American Yeah about one twenty I think, yeah,

459
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:36,440
Speaker 4: And I dropped quickly to forty eight kilos, so very

460
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,720
Speaker 4: low for my height.

461
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 3: I lost my periods.

462
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,560
Speaker 4: Hair fell out. As soon as I lost my periods.

463
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,359
Speaker 4: I was like something off and the period. So the

464
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 4: timeframe of that was probably about six to seven months,

465
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 4: so it wasn't a long time for me to drop

466
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:50,920
Speaker 4: that volume away.

467
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I.

468
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 4: Went to a GP and said something not right. I'm

469
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,199
Speaker 4: not getting my periods anymore. And I'm really lethargic, in

470
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 4: a bit moody and a bit sad, and I don't

471
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 4: know what's going on. And she said up on the scales.

472
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 4: And I've still got this traumatic experience of like really

473
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,159
Speaker 4: clear vision of what happened. But I stepped on the

474
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 4: scales and she was like, yeah, you're on an exit

475
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,400
Speaker 4: straight off the bat, like no sugar coating, no anything.

476
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 4: And she goes, you need to start doing some yoga

477
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 4: instead of going to the gym and just eat more.

478
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 3: That was the proscription, and then was literally like vexed.

479
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 4: So I was mortified and obviously thinking like what is

480
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 4: she possibly talking about. I'm not hiding my food. I'm

481
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,160
Speaker 4: not scared of food like I'm eating. I don't understand this.

482
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 4: So I went away and did some research and found

483
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 4: a GP who was in the same area but specialized

484
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 4: in mental health conditions. I was like, I'm going to

485
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,400
Speaker 4: go and see her for a second opinion. Went to her,

486
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 4: explained the scenario and she said, first of all, give

487
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 4: me the prior GPS details because she's getting reported ah,

488
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 4: which was amazing. And then second of all, she said,

489
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 4: what I actually think is going on is something called orthorexia.

490
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,400
Speaker 4: And it's not a it's not a desire to be thin.

491
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,439
Speaker 4: It's a desire to have the healthiest diet or be

492
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 4: the healthiest person you can be, but to the point

493
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 4: where it's unbalanced, and so it's the only thing you

494
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 4: can think about. It's the only thing that you strive

495
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 4: to have in your life, and it becomes disruptive, right,

496
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 4: so then you can't eat out with your friends, you

497
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 4: can't go not do normal amounts of exercise. Everything's in

498
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 4: its extreme. And so yes, I was eating, but I

499
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 4: would have like huge salads with one egg, for example,

500
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 4: and conjact noodles. All the contact noodles got blended into everything, mate.

501
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 1: I had you put them in a smooth smoothies.

502
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. So if for people who don't know conjact noodles

503
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 4: are like this weird glucmen gluc can't say it like

504
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 4: a gelatinous fiber that fills people up pretty much, don't

505
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 4: recommend it because.

506
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 3: There's no nutrition, little zero flavor.

507
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not fun. I went through a phase of

508
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: trying to do it.

509
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: Is like literally having that as passion and then putting

510
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 2: like a handmade like bezily thing on top of her

511
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 2: and my boyfriend would look at me and he's like.

512
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Speaker 1: That looks disgusting.

513
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 3: It's like blue.

514
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I found that happy meme there is because

515
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: I'm gluten free, right, there are actually so many great

516
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 2: gluten like lentil pasts and among me masters, they're at

517
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: least you're getting some nutritional value from correct, right, that's

518
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 2: the thing.

519
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 3: So nutrient devoid and filling up a lot of my diet.

520
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

521
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

522
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 3: So because there were fibrous I was like, oh this

523
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 3: is great, some film me up for hours.

524
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 4: I'd throw them in a blender and then blend the

525
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 4: like gluey fiber into my shape my protein shake in

526
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 4: the morning.

527
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 3: So it'd filled me up for hours.

528
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 4: So yeah, just like obsessive, right, And it became that

529
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 4: the thoughts kind of took over my entire day of

530
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 4: like how many calories are in this how long will

531
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 4: it take for me to burn off if I go

532
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 4: to the supermarket? Can I go to one that's further

533
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 4: away so I burn more calories? It just was like insane.

534
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 2: I used to be able to like look at something

535
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 2: and be like carrot seventy four. Yeah, like I could

536
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: look at it's a mad minus the yolk makes it

537
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: seventeen like or whatever it was.

538
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you, you've.

539
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 2: Got such a good knowledge of all that stuff because

540
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 2: you do track macros, don't you.

541
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 3: I do on and off?

542
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 4: Yeah I do, And I think I do it more

543
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 4: of an education to make sure that I get enough

544
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 4: volume of the things that I need now. Right, even

545
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 4: though I'm pretty well versed after doing a nutrition degree,

546
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: I still wonder about am I getting enough fiber?

547
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 3: You know?

548
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,959
Speaker 4: Am I getting enough viman sea iron? Blah blah blah?

549
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 4: And also if I've got particular got like esthetic goals

550
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 4: or strength goals, which is more I'm focused on now.

551
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 4: I actually went through a period of bulking I followed, yeah,

552
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,719
Speaker 4: which was a completely obviously opposite of orthorexia, right of

553
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 4: like eating in surplus in a structured way to be

554
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 4: able to gain weight. And it's so uncomfortable as a

555
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 4: woman to be like, this is my mission. Now, I'm

556
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 4: going to put on weight past the point of being comfortable,

557
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 4: like not just a happy body weight, but beyond that.

558
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 4: And it's what bodybuilders do right, traditional bulking and cutting.

559
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 4: But there is a bit of science behind the reason

560
00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 4: why I did that to gain more muscle, and so yeah,

561
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 4: I went through that and was uncomfortable, to be honest

562
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 4: by the end of it. I did it for a

563
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 4: year and was like, it sounds like a heap of fun, guys,

564
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 4: but it really was hard work because you're trying to

565
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 4: do it from a nutritious perspective. I'm not just going

566
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 4: to go to maccas and smash a load of food.

567
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: You know, can you share?

568
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 2: So I'm taking you back a little bit, but can

569
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: you share? So you know you've got autho rex you

570
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 2: by a stage and you're working with a I think

571
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 2: a psychotherapist by the sounds and stuff. Yeah, and you

572
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: talk me through the peanut butter binge where yeah, because

573
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: I can fully relate to this, right, Yeah.

574
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 3: So I was triggered by certain things.

575
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 4: So when I went and had my first appointment, the

576
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 4: conversation was essentially went a bit like this, like, you've

577
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 4: got permission to eat, you need to eat and wherever

578
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 4: the calories come from and in whatever volume, you need

579
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 4: to do that right now, otherwise you're going to end

580
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 4: up in hospital. So that was the strong messaging that

581
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 4: I got, and I think I kind of took that

582
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 4: and run with it in a really like ran with

583
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 4: it in a really probably not healthy way, but at

584
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 4: the time it was necessar right. So my I think

585
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 4: because my body was craving calories, I was really bothered

586
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 4: or interested in foods that were really really calorically dense,

587
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 4: so avocado as salmon. I was just like, couldn't get

588
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 4: enough of salmon and peanut butter, right.

589
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 3: And so which is wigs.

590
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 4: I never even liked peanut butter before I came to Australia,

591
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 4: and then I became obsessed with it. But I would

592
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 4: sit with a jarra peanut butter in the house and

593
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 4: could not stop thinking about it until it was fully eaten.

594
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 4: So then I would sit with the whole thing, and

595
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 4: I would just spoon it mindlessly into my mouth, up

596
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 4: the whole jar.

597
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, so many people will relate this. I've heard many hours.

598
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 4: And I'd get halfway through and be like, I'm so

599
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 4: uncomfortable and I don't even like the flavor of this now,

600
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 4: but I just need to keep going. And it was

601
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 4: like an animal instinct of like, I can't rationalize what

602
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 4: my primitive self is trying to do right now.

603
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: So was that like kind of exposure therapy? Was that

604
00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: kind of like?

605
00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 3: Right?

606
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 4: So there's two options, and I say this now to

607
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 4: my clients, right because I've been on the other side

608
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 4: of it, is that when you have a food like

609
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 4: that that is triggering in the sense that it triggers

610
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 4: an over eating episode, you can go two ways about it,

611
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 4: and I always prefer the exposure therapy option, right, But

612
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 4: one of them is you just never come into contact

613
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 4: with that thing again.

614
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: Right.

615
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 4: So I guess like, if you're a gambler, never go

616
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 4: into a casino, right, get it.

617
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 3: But with food, it's.

618
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 4: Tricky because most of the time you're going to end

619
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 4: up somehow running into a food that you consider to

620
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 4: be a trigger food. So the other option is exposure therapy,

621
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 4: where it's like, go and buy fifteen tubs of the

622
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 4: thing that's bothering you and keep it in the house

623
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 4: and see what happens. And that to hear that as

624
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 4: somebody who's like super concerned about the health is really scary.

625
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 4: Like it's terrifying that if I have fifteen gels of

626
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 4: peanut butter in the house, I'm probably going to eat

627
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 4: about six in one go. But then the theory is

628
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 4: you'll do it, you'll feel so ill that you'll never

629
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 4: want to touch it again, and the desire to continue

630
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 4: to eat it will have completely gone. See. It's like

631
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 4: if someone said, smoke twenty packets of cigarettes didn't work. Yeah,

632
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 4: it did, but it still took me a long time

633
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 4: to be okay with having it in the house and

634
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 4: eating it in a moderate portion. And I think, to

635
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 4: be honest, nuts for everybody most of the time. It's

636
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 4: one of those things that's really tricky to stop eating

637
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 4: because the moorish and palatable.

638
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that pleasure spot right with the bat.

639
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: And the salt exactly.

640
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, So interesting that it's so nice hearing you talk

641
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: about this at the other side, because right, I also

642
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: have a history of eating disorder stuff, and I think

643
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 2: you were nice were similar ages and so, but I've

644
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: always felt safe around you if we were caught up

645
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: and I'll be like, look, I'm just gonna have to

646
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: get a coffee today.

647
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: You know.

648
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: Some days I've sat there and be like, I just

649
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 2: got to get And there's been days where I don't

650
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: know if you remember, like in Melves and stuff, where

651
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: you're like, hey, you eat, I don't feel like a

652
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 2: right now, and you've just got it.

653
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it depends where you are on your journey.

654
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: But it's really nice to like have this discussion, you know,

655
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: as someone that.

656
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: Help me, Yeah, and then just come out the other

657
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: side and.

658
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: You speak about it with such clarity, which is really

659
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: really it's really nice and very inspiring. Like there are

660
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 2: certain things that I know I can't have in the

661
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: house still, Like if we get chocolate, Matt's like, who

662
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 2: are you kidding, Lola, That'll be gone tonight. We'll eat

663
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 2: it together mindfully, but like I can't.

664
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 4: And I think that's okay though, because I think, and

665
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 4: I have to check in with myself sometimes because sometimes yes,

666
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 4: it's okay to overeat things, you know, it's not necessarily

667
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 4: an eating disorder trait, and it's it's one of those

668
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 4: things that everybody will do from time to time, and

669
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 4: we do have an emotional connection with food, particularly as women,

670
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 4: and we struggle with hormone balance and stuff. You know.

671
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Like three days out to the period.

672
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: I'm like game over, game game over.

673
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: And for me, I found the trick with that is

674
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: just I up my fats, like massively, like a our.

675
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: I don't care, throw the olive oil on there, don't care,

676
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: give me the sammy, don't care, Like, I just go

677
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: go in with fat. Otherwise I'm going to go for

678
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: the sugar, right and the bad refined?

679
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, not the bad is the right word for it.

680
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: But I am not a nutritious options.

681
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just not someone that can have a little

682
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: bit of something that, especially sugar.

683
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: For me, I'm like, it's fucking lace with something else.

684
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 2: I can't stop because I'd rather go fats because I

685
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: just know that that's going to satiate me. Yeah, oh

686
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: my god, there's so much I want to talk to

687
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: you about. Can we quickly talk? I feel very lucky

688
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: having nutritionness on the other side of this podcast, and

689
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: I kind of want to know if you don't mind,

690
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: Like what's in cell's supplement cupboard?

691
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: Like what do you love to take?

692
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: Many things?

693
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: We both love collagen, don't we.

694
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: I definitely do collagen and your coffee. Yeah, yes, maybe

695
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 4: I do it in a few things. Actually, so I'll

696
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: give you should I give you my top three?

697
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: There's a lot.

698
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, go topic like I'm rattling right.

699
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: Like I rattle like you? So number one.

700
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 4: We actually just spoke about this before the pody. There's

701
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: something called p HGG, which stands for partially hydrolyzed guargon.

702
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 4: Now it's not the guargon that people get in the

703
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 4: supermarket before you rush out, by any because that's the

704
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 4: stuff that they put in gluten free food and it's

705
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 4: just a thickner. It's not the same thing. Also known

706
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 4: as sun fiber, I think if you're looking for it

707
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 4: on the shelves. So it's an incredible fiber that is

708
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 4: really good from many things, right, but mostly intestinal health.

709
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: You said, is this what you were saying to your

710
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: Oh you were talking about this off pod, but you

711
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: were telling it to your I think at UNI, like

712
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: someone at UNI. You was like, Hey, I've been with

713
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: my clients with it and it's been really help.

714
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 4: It was actually I spoke to my supervisor and I've

715
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 4: used it in a lady who had alternative colitis and

716
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 4: she had it really severely and she's done a one

717
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 4: eighteen UC which is incredible. So and as far as

718
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 4: cheapness and availability go, it's really anyway, literally, but it's

719
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,479
Speaker 4: just so funny that it's not mainstream because it's just

720
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: such a basic some point, it's like going and buying

721
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 4: what's the other fiber. You can get musil or whatever.

722
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 4: It's like that stuff, but it's just it's a different

723
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: type of fiber that's more well tolerated and has it's

724
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 4: prebiotic as most fibers are psycho correct exactly like collagen.

725
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 4: So it's white and flavorless and light in texture. It

726
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 4: doesn't go gluey in water, which is kind of nice.

727
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 4: It works for constipation and diarrhea, so some fibers don't

728
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 4: do that.

729
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: This one particularly does. It goes a bit like.

730
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 4: School glue inside the system and then it kind of

731
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 4: either lubricates or bulks at the same It kind of

732
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: both at the same time, and so you can pastor

733
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 4: a lot more effectively and you feel really empty afterwards, and.

734
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: Light, which is quite nice.

735
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 4: Good, amazing for intestinal health, amazing for just feeling a

736
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 4: bit more satiated, good for blood sugar regulation, and great

737
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 4: four people with leaky gut right because it helped there's

738
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 4: short chained fatty acids that it gets broken down to

739
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: help to kind of fix the intestinal lining.

740
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 3: So it's bloody great. Gets they do it.

741
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 4: I've struggled with IBS for so long, had so many

742
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 4: supplements prescribed to me, and then when I came across

743
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 4: it in study, I was like, how is this not mainstream?

744
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: It's absolutely insane.

745
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm going to literally get some I

746
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: should have bought you it. Is it listed as sunfiber

747
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: or is that as.

748
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 4: So you can search partially hydrolysed guagon or phgg. The

749
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 4: brand name that you can find it under is Sunfiber,

750
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: So I think Thorn researched you one and it's called sunfiber.

751
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 4: Both interchangeable words, right, so one of them is just

752
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 4: like more the technical terms of the supplement, but yeah,

753
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: both of them do the same thing.

754
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 3: So check it out. A big fan.

755
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 4: So I have that in my coffee in the morning

756
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 4: because it actually slows down the rate of the absorption

757
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 4: of caffeine. Hello, so you don't get the bump, which

758
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 4: is nice. So I do do that fish oil, let's

759
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: go there. I work out a lot, right, so lots

760
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 4: of information in my body, so great anti inflow, which

761
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 4: everybody knows. Also amazing for mental health, which is so.

762
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 4: I don't know why fish oil is really underrated, but

763
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 4: it's great obviously for dimension things. It's great brain health,

764
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 4: but from an anxiety and depression perspective. Lots of scientific research.

765
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 4: In fact, it's one of the only whole food kind

766
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 4: of supplements we can use for mental health. Right, So

767
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 4: one gram of EPA is the equivalent in clinical trials

768
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: as effective as prozac.

769
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: I think this is so insane.

770
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 4: However, a lot of commercial supplements don't have a gram

771
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: of EPA per dose, right.

772
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: It's normally in the range of like five hundred grams.

773
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: It's half of what you probably need for mental health

774
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 4: support and obviously not in place of prozac. If you've

775
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: ever been prescribed for coact it needs to be and

776
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 4: you can use it in conjunction with mental health stuff

777
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: as well. So that's great. But yeah, there's evidence behind it.

778
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 4: It's and so I take it for that because you know,

779
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 4: I've had a history of anxiety and whatnot and the

780
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 4: depression in my family and eating disorder and all that that.

781
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, absolutely, it's great for your skin, it's good

782
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 4: for your immunity. Like, why am I not taking this stuff?

783
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 4: So good quality one. There's a brand called Nordic Naturals.

784
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 4: I have nothing to do with them. It's just one

785
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 4: that all the practitioners use and you can get it

786
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: without prescription.

787
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 3: I think they have it in the US. But it's

788
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 3: pure and get it.

789
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: You can liquid? Is it liquid?

790
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 4: You can get a liquid as well If people like that,

791
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: I'm probably with the taste, but yeah, or caps so good.

792
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 4: So that's a good, good one. And then what else

793
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 4: do I do? That's yer, I would say, NAC.

794
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm so excited to hear do that. Go go go.

795
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: It sounds for nersetal system, right, and it's it's It

796
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 4: goes into the body and it gets turned into something

797
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 4: called glut to thione, which essentially is the body's strongest,

798
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: most powerful antioxidants. So Whi's used in millions of different

799
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 4: processes in the body. It basically helps you function better

800
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 4: in all aspects. Works on brain health, works on liver health,

801
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 4: works on like just organ health in general.

802
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: It's fantastic.

803
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 4: It also regulates liver enzymes, right, and the rate at

804
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: which we filter the blood through the liver so pulls

805
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: out toxins faster. So if you have a paracetam all overdose,

806
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: it's what they give you in his still.

807
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't expect to know that, Like

808
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: I didn't expect.

809
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 4: Interesting, right, Yeah, that they use it in hospitals, but

810
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 4: is also available as a off the shelf stop and

811
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 4: so great for It's actually great for immunity, it's great

812
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 4: for long health.

813
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: He's still been using for covid right right.

814
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, questionable and yeah, it's funny because it stops proliferation

815
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 4: of bacteria in the lungs.

816
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so it has.

817
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 4: Been used for treatment of pneumonia. But then they've been

818
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: doing clinical trials to see if it works against COVID.

819
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 4: And I'll let everybody else do the research. Just look

820
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 4: on PubMed. But essentially there is a lot of evidence

821
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 4: to back it up for that, and I think a

822
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 4: lot of people caught onto that and when bought it

823
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 4: and it sold out pretty much everywhere.

824
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got it at home. We take it.

825
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, good, even if you take it just for general health, right.

826
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 1: I would give me all the antioxide.

827
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: Can you explain the difference between that and taking glutathion though,

828
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: because you can buy correct and supple form, you can.

829
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 3: So glue Thion's great.

830
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 4: You just weirdly enough, your body actually deals better with

831
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 4: NAC because it converts NAC into glutathione and it creates

832
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 4: more glut to thione than if you just take that

833
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 4: straight up glutathio.

834
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: Which is interesting because we've always thought that you want

835
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 2: to take leg the closest thing to it, like bioidentify

836
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: HG instead of trip to fan up regulates her atonin.

837
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: So I get I get it. It's so interesting. When

838
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 2: I heard you say that, I was like.

839
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: Hot, damn. I had no idea that it was that

840
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: it was better.

841
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 4: Right, And again like if you can only get hold

842
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 4: of glue to thione, do that, but it just means

843
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 4: you probably have to do more to get the same effects, right,

844
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 4: whereas now you can take less and it's still be

845
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 4: as effects.

846
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 2: I love the whereas neac I love theach.

847
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: I could talk to you all day long.

848
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: I'm so mindful of time, but I could talk you

849
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: all day long about supplements and stuff.

850
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: I I love. I love that you've broken it down.

851
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: Do you take meg magnetism?

852
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I take a bisical lisonate, which have

853
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: bloody love.

854
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

855
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: It's a type of magnesium.

856
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 4: Actually, I'll just say because I'm so obsessed with sobs right,

857
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 4: and the supplement industry in particular, and the fact that

858
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 4: there's so many bad pieces of information about there about

859
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 4: what we should have taken, what we shouldn't. And I

860
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 4: actually started a podcast now I've ended it.

861
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: Now, but I've been listening to it all morning.

862
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: Maye, You're the best.

863
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 4: I did a podcast called Wellness fact or Fiction, and

864
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: I basically pulled really common supplements, diets and like you know,

865
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 4: detox teas and whatnot, and each episode pulled them apart

866
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 4: with science and said, like, this is actually what the

867
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 4: science says, whether it's effective, whether it's not, and yeah,

868
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 4: and kind of what's been said in popular culture about

869
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 4: the plument right. So it's been fascinating journey for me

870
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: because I got to do so much research on supplements

871
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 4: about like what you should take when and all that

872
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 4: kind of thing.

873
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: But so there's an.

874
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 4: Episode on magnesium coming back to that, and there's actually

875
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 4: fifteen different types of magnesium available on the market. Most

876
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 4: of the stuff that you can get off of shelf

877
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 4: is chilate, which is fine.

878
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: And like you can have a.

879
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: Listen because different things do different kind of different things.

880
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 4: So it might be one's better for sleep, one's better

881
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 4: for wrestless legs, one causes looser stalls, et cetera.

882
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: Right, but bisglycinate for me, it's actually one. I don't know.

883
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 4: If you listen to Human Lab, Yes, I do amazing

884
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 4: health podcast. So Andrew Huberman takes bids glycinating. He got

885
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 4: me onto it, and since swapping from a chili, I've

886
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 4: noticed a big difference saw my muscles are or not,

887
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 4: I should say, Oh my goodness, cold right, yeah, And

888
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: it's a win because I started CrossFit a couple of

889
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 4: months ago and it's so hard on your body and

890
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 4: doing all sorts of gymnastics and hanging from bars and whatnot.

891
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 4: And I wasn't saw through any of it because I

892
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 4: was taking bigisin it. That's what I put it down to.

893
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I love it. You've given me a

894
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 2: shopping list today, my girl.

895
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: Honestly, there's actually, so the brand that I take, it's

896
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 4: actually a prescription only one that obviously I can get

897
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 4: hold of. But it's called Carmex. It's by Metagenics. Okay,

898
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 4: that's got the big issinate in that take. But it's

899
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 4: good for nervous system as well. Yeah, well what my

900
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 4: museum does.

901
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I take mag at night because I sleep. It's

902
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 1: so good with it.

903
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: But also, like if you saw, I'm a bit more

904
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: of a yogs and pilates girl as opposed to GM,

905
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 2: but you still get iffing saw.

906
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 4: And everybody needs nervous system support, right, Plus, the amount

907
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: of magnesium we get through our food chain is so

908
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: minimal because soils are depleted, that it's necessary. It's one

909
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 4: of the one, like the one thing really that people

910
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 4: do need to supplement that we can't get from food.

911
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: What's your advice for people that are listening, They're like, okay, okay,

912
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: you've inspired me. I want to get on track with

913
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: my health. I want to I'm going to go out,

914
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to get the right sublements, or I'm going

915
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: to see a nutritionist and really take control of my

916
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: health or at least get a bit of understanding of

917
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: my health. Should I say, what would your advise, because

918
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: it can be really overwhelming, like should people go see

919
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: a nutritionist or what? How do people kind of like

920
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 2: start to understand their health better.

921
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 4: That's such a good question, and I think it's different

922
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 4: for every I think the answer is different for everyone.

923
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: Right.

924
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 4: One of the key things that I learned for my

925
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 4: health was to learn to to understand how to read

926
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 4: a nutrition label on food, because we are presented with

927
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 4: so many packaged food products that aren't what I would

928
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 4: consider food.

929
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: Right.

930
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 4: If it's wrapped in a he's got a wrapper on it,

931
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 4: it's got health claims, and it's got more than one ingredient,

932
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: it's a food product, right, And so trying to understand

933
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 4: and decipher that away from the marketing garbage that goes

934
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 4: on the front has changed my ability to understand what

935
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 4: I'm putting into my body and making conscious choice about that,

936
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 4: Whereas prior to that, I wasn't making conscious choice. I

937
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 4: was just picking at what looked yummy.

938
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 2: So the marketing's hard though, Like for me, like I've

939
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: I landed here, so I had like a twenty minute

940
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: window between podcasts, I ran and just got a protein

941
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: bar that I knew there was numbers and stuff in it.

942
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: But I was like, it's going to give be twenty

943
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: grams of protein, there's no sugar in it, and I

944
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: just need energy to be.

945
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: Able to do this podcast.

946
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: But like the other side of me, it's like, well

947
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 2: of be a detective, be a detective, like, but that's

948
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: the thing.

949
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 4: So I'm awful being a detective, right, And I always say,

950
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 4: be the scientist of.

951
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 3: Your own body. Oh. I love that there's a nutrition

952
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 3: so I.

953
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 4: Can tell you what to do, but I don't know

954
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 4: your individual biofeedback, right, so you really need to tune

955
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 4: into the signals that your body send. And it's different

956
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 4: for everyone, but you wrap like my kind of ethos

957
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 4: with food now is eighty percent, whole foods twenty percent

958
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 4: and what a lot of people are kind of pushing

959
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 4: now And I just find it so helpful for moving

960
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 4: away from that binge mentality of like I'm just going

961
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 4: to be good all week and then go out on

962
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: the weekend and get wasted and eat whatever. It's a

963
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 4: really natural, nice approach to kind of it's almost the

964
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: exposure therapy. I'm gonna have a few treats a day

965
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 4: and it might be a protein bar, I'm not going

966
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 4: to look at the bully ingredients as long as it's

967
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 4: fairly a decent choice. Is delicious, that's my sole food

968
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 4: for the day. Yes, it's got sugar, alcohols in you

969
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 4: know whatever. Fine, but you're making a conscious choice that

970
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 4: that should treat food for the day. And you know,

971
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 4: you can probably have another couple of squares of chocolate

972
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 4: before bed, but you're not then going to go and

973
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 4: eat a doughnut and go and have a bag of

974
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 4: fish and chicks and something else.

975
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: It's like, that's my one thing where it's like.

976
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 4: Okay, it's not perfect nutrition, but it doesn't need to

977
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 4: be all the time. And I think that's where we

978
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: go wrong because we kick yourself for having a bar

979
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 4: of chocolate.

980
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 3: But you can have that bar of.

981
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 4: Chocolate and the rest of the day eat well, yeah,

982
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 4: and you should. You should be able to do that.

983
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 4: And that's the flexibility around diet that I think we miss.

984
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 4: We're very all or nothing in an approach, and that's

985
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 4: when we fall off the wagon because we don't really

986
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 4: works all or nothing as human totally.

987
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: Another thing that I love that you're passionate about is

988
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: kind of like the data, like get your bloods done

989
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: every six months and please do just for It's really

990
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: it is confronting though, because I recently moved to Byron

991
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: Bay and I went to the doctor for a skin

992
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: check because I'm very, very very pale and at that

993
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: love the sunshine. And I have my skin check and

994
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: I was like, he's like, okay, you're all done, like

995
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: I see you in twelve months.

996
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: And I was like, can I get a blood test?

997
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: And he's like, what for?

998
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 2: And I was like, I was like, I just I said,

999
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: I live half in America, like when I'm in Australia.

1000
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: I love to get on top of my health and

1001
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: just check in. I said, can we just do like

1002
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: a full like Global county. Yeah, And he goes, don't

1003
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: you want a female And I was like no, no,

1004
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: I don't need a female doctor for this. I just

1005
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: want to know, like what my liver's doing, what my

1006
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: kidneys are doing, how's iron and like just understand where

1007
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: my body's at. And I got the blood test, like

1008
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 2: the little piece of paper where you go, and it

1009
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: was like three things.

1010
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: It was like.

1011
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: Cholesterol, I think it was like cholesterol hemoglobal like it

1012
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 2: was just like basic.

1013
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,479
Speaker 1: Real base really and I was like and if something felt.

1014
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, let's go to the let's go

1015
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: pathology get that.

1016
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: And she effed up both my veins and you're like.

1017
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 4: It happens to me every time. I'm like a pin

1018
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 4: caution when I walk out.

1019
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well she couldn't even get anything. She was like,

1020
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: your veins are too small. You'll have to go to

1021
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: someone else. And I call my mum bawling because it

1022
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 2: was pretty. It's not fun when they're waving. They're waving

1023
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 2: a needle in your vein, trying to get it in, poking.

1024
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: And then they're like, oh, it's just shrunk, it's moved.

1025
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 3: You're like, no, just do your job. Yeah, it's so

1026
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 3: annoying the children.

1027
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: I called my mother and she's like, no, no, no,

1028
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: you don't have small veins. There's actually no way of

1029
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 2: knowing that unless we literally opened you up. And she goes,

1030
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 2: you just need to make sure I've seen your nurses

1031
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: doing it next time. But so I was really off put,

1032
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: and then I said, I really just want I just

1033
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: want to understand, like I love being healthy, I love

1034
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: understanding vitality, and and it was I just loved hearing

1035
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: that you're all about the data you want to know,

1036
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 2: like and so would you say, like stay on track

1037
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 2: of like you're.

1038
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: Getting your bloods regularly?

1039
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think so your bloods I always say

1040
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 4: your bloods in your period your health report card.

1041
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: Oh I like that.

1042
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 4: So once you've got those two things and you've tracked

1043
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 4: them or you've got an understanding of them, you've really

1044
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 4: tuned into it as a woman obviously, and then you

1045
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 4: really have a good sense of what's going on with

1046
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 4: your body and if anything's off, because your period often

1047
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 4: is one of the first things to get like to

1048
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 4: go off right, like by a few days, or you

1049
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 4: skip one or something, or it's heavier or it's clock.

1050
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: So many people aren't though, Like when I got to

1051
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: go with Matt, He's like, You're the first girl that

1052
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: has a period tracker that I've ever dated, you know, phone,

1053
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 2: I was like, am I the oldest girl? Maybe the

1054
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: data because I mean, know, this is ever and funny.

1055
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: When I came back from a Miericra after being there

1056
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: for six months to Buyerron my cycles like bang on

1057
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: twenty eight to thirty days kind of like it it

1058
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: sits there every time, I know how long it like

1059
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: all the works, and it was day forty five and

1060
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: I was flipping out, and my Mom's like, just go

1061
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: to doctor, get a blood test, just to be sort of.

1062
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: I was like peeing on SIGs every second day, and

1063
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: I was like, no, I'm going.

1064
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: I went to an acupuncturist next day, got my period.

1065
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: Wow, how cool. And she was like, you just you just.

1066
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: Needed to realign your body. But you're so right. Your

1067
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: period is such a great, little, great signaler and you

1068
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: get it for free once a month. It'll tell you

1069
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: what's going.

1070
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: On, you lucky thing.

1071
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 3: Not yeah.

1072
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 4: And then bloods, I say, get them done every three months.

1073
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 4: There's no reason why you can't go and ask that.

1074
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 4: And the thing is your body changes all the time, right,

1075
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 4: You're constantly generating new cells.

1076
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: You're if you hear his pause, just said, I just

1077
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: knock my whole bottle of water over.

1078
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 3: Into the sneakers.

1079
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 4: Just seriously, go and get your bloods done. There's no

1080
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 4: reason I can't get it done. On Medicare, just go

1081
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 4: and ask you want a full blood panel, you know,

1082
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: and that includes vitmin D includes B twelve.

1083
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: Yes, So and have to ask for that. They're not

1084
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: naturally going to give you.

1085
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 4: It should come as standard, should come as standard. The

1086
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 4: additional things are things like thyroid. Yeah, if you know,

1087
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 4: if you want anything special testing then yeah, they will

1088
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 4: be a bit picky, but in general you should be

1089
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 4: able to get zinc and copper. So zinc is pretty

1090
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 4: important for immunities. You know, skin helpful that just.

1091
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: Like the traffic control of your body. You've got everything down.

1092
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's bloody great. So have a look at zinc levels.

1093
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: Have a look at your iron levels.

1094
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 4: Obviously, people who are fatigued all the time look at iron,

1095
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 4: your vitamin D and you be twelve right B twelve

1096
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 4: often is low and people don't eat a lot of meat,

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00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 4: and it can sometimes be supplemented if you need to

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00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 4: do that. But it's also a big marker of kind

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00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 4: of whether your energy levels where they should be. And

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00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 4: then another thing I would be looking at is liver enzymes.

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00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 4: So if you the too low or the too high,

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00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 4: and you'll see that from the reference ranges, which is

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00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 4: a whole other oh story, we won't go into that,

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00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 4: but if you're out on your liver enzymes, it's good

1105
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 4: to have a look and just see like what's going on,

1106
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 4: because that actually toxin removal from your body essentially, right,

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00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 4: So that's good to look at.

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00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 2: And just on the reference and I won't make you

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00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 2: dive into the reference ranges thing, but basically what adopted

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Speaker 2: things's reference range versus natural path or nutritionists different.

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00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: There are quite different.

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00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: If you go on integrative doctor or a natural path

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00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: or nutritionists, you're probably going to get a little bit

1114
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: of a different reading.

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00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, correct.

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Speaker 4: And if we tend to look at the whole picture, yeah,

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00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 4: and go and alongside symptoms, right, because that's what we

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00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 4: want to do, and go, let's just understand the whole

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Speaker 4: health card rather than an individual line. The other thing

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Speaker 4: with reference ranges, just to explain that quickly, is that

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Speaker 4: the reference ranges are created from healthy, what we consider

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00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 4: to be normal people.

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Speaker 3: In the world.

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00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 4: Right, So we take lots of data from people who

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00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 4: are both well and unwell, who aren't optimally healthy, and

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00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 4: say that that the average of those people is what's normal. Yeah. Right,

1127
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 4: So it's not an optimal, it's a normal. And we

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00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 4: don't necessarily want what's normal based on the average population, right,

1129
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 4: because we've got a massive obesity epidemic and lots of

1130
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: chronic health problems, and so that tools isn't the ideal scenario, right,

1131
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 4: So it's along with symptoms, let's have a look. If

1132
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 4: something is kind of subclinical, so you know, it might

1133
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 4: be sitting on the borderline of a reference range, then

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00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 4: we might have another look and say, you know what

1135
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 4: your symptoms that kind of thing.

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00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 3: So that's the reference range debate.

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Speaker 1: Ah, got me so passionate about it.

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00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 4: Last thing I would just say on your bloods to

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00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 4: really look out for that people can look at is

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00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 4: something called c RP. And you'll be familiar with this, right,

1141
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 4: but it stands for c reactive protein, and it's a

1142
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 4: really simple marker of inflammation in the body. Right, So

1143
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 4: if you've got elevated CRP, you've got more inflammation than

1144
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 4: your body would normally have. It annoyingly doesn't tell you

1145
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 4: where in the body that inflammation is, but it's just

1146
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: like a systemic thing and great marker, right, really interesting

1147
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: to look at for all sorts of things, you know,

1148
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 4: like if you've got inflammatory bowel disease, or you've got

1149
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 4: you know, or you exercise a lot, anything like that.

1150
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: It's just good to see where your inflammation levels are at.

1151
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 4: Because we know inflammation stems into a lot of chronic

1152
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 4: disease and it's just a good you know. So that's

1153
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 4: another thing that I tend to jump to when i'm

1154
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 4: looking at bloods.

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00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: You have got me so so excited about nutrition again

1156
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: because I, as you know, I've stipped away a little

1157
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: bit from it.

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00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: And it's so nice.

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Speaker 2: To have someone that is just so passionate about health

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00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: and nutrition. And I had all these other grand plans

1161
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: to talk to you about other things, but I'm so

1162
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: wrapped that we've geeked out over. I love it and supplements,

1163
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 2: and I cannot wait to see what is next for you.

1164
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: I know you're working on something that's a bit harshark.

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00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just doing it.

1166
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 4: And I'm going to start doing some group coaching, which

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00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 4: is fun because I've been doing a lot of one

1168
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 4: on one nutrition clients and while it's amazing, I'm only

1169
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 4: helping one person at a time. And I do find

1170
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 4: that about ninety percent of the women that are coming

1171
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: through are wanting weight loss, right, and the fundamental science

1172
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 4: behind weight loss is the same for everybody. So it's

1173
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 4: teaching things like thermic effective feeding and why protein's so

1174
00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 4: important and you know, total daily energy expenditure where that

1175
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 4: comes from and how important exercises or not, how you

1176
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 4: know how not important it is. And there's a lot

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00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 4: of fundamental things that can be taught on mass So

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00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 4: coming up shortly, I've just I'm about fifty percent the

1179
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 4: way through writing it. There's going to be a group

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00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 4: coaching thing that's more accessible financially for people as well.

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00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: And real So by the time this comes out, we're

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00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: recording a little in an event, So by the time

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Speaker 2: this comes out, it should.

1184
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 3: Be ready to go. So Grecia, I like it.

1185
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: If it is, it will be in the show notes absolutely.

1186
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: If not, it will not be far off.

1187
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: Sally O'Neil, you are absolutely phenomenal and it has been

1188
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 2: an real honor to have you on the pod.

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00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 4: Thank you so absolute pleasure to hang out with you, mate,

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00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 4: it's been too long.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so good. I love that.

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Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing.

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