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Speaker 1: Great the flick with ben o'she on ninety six a FM.

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Speaker 1: Elvis is finally in cinemas today and ben Ochet is

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Speaker 1: with us because you got to fly over to the

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Speaker 1: Gold Coast and sit down with Tom Hanks and Austin

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Speaker 2: Elvis.

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Speaker 3: How was that? Well, look, it's I think it's fair

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Speaker 3: to say I was all shook up. That's at least

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Speaker 3: one Elvis. It was amazing, like it's you know, like

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Speaker 3: the over my career, I've interviewed a bunch of celebrities.

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Speaker 3: Tom Hanks, though, is in a special place of his own,

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Speaker 3: two time Oscar winner, absolute legend, icon of cinema, and

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Speaker 3: I was a little bit nervous going into it. And

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Speaker 3: he was lovely, like an absolute lovely bloke. Walked into

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Speaker 3: walked into the room, and the first thing he goes

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Speaker 3: is ben Ol'shay. That's not a real name, that's a

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Speaker 3: fake name. I know a fake name when I hear it.

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Speaker 3: So he was having the time of his life, and

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Speaker 3: he was so open and generous with his with his answers,

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Speaker 3: and Austin Butler, my gosh, what talent he is. He's

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Speaker 3: got a real magnetic presence. Charismatic, Yeah, charismatic. And it's

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Speaker 3: I can tell you all of all of my female friends.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay, And did either of them have what

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Speaker 4: color was he? He's choose mate the black black, very

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Speaker 4: good bad?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Austin Butler looked very cool. Tom Hanks, though, what a legend.

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Speaker 4: No, let's hear the the ben head with a couple

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Speaker 4: of stars.

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Speaker 7: Tom Hanks, Austin Butler, Congratulations on Elvis. It's an incredible move.

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Speaker 7: It's incredible. But tell me, like, what does Elvis mean

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Speaker 7: to both of you before you started this project? Thomas

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Speaker 7: someone who lived through his career, and Austin someone who

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Speaker 7: was born more than a decade up.

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Speaker 2: I'll go first, because he goes he had, he had

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Speaker 2: to go back from the dead.

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Speaker 6: When I was growing up, Elvis was already done. He

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Speaker 6: was the great nineteen fifty six Elvis of the rock

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Speaker 6: and roll me. That was nine years really before I

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Speaker 6: became a conscious human being. And Elvis was a guy

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Speaker 6: who was in really lousy movies about every third week

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Speaker 6: in the United States. I saw him as a guy

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Speaker 6: who was in silly movies with greasy.

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Speaker 5: Hair that I understood.

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Speaker 6: He did rock and roll back in the day before

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Speaker 6: before the Beatles did, and I just thought he was already.

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Speaker 5: I thought he was done. I thought he was like

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Speaker 5: about as hip as you know Forrest Tucker or Milton Burrele.

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Speaker 6: He was somebody from the nineteen fifties, and he didn't

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Speaker 6: mean anything anything to me. That being said, when I

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Speaker 6: saw Viva Las Vegas on TV, I thought that was.

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Speaker 5: A pretty great I thought that was a pretty great movie.

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Speaker 2: But he was always a guy lip singing a song,

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Speaker 2: playing a guy who drove a racing car.

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Speaker 5: In the day and sang a nightclubs at night.

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Speaker 6: And I never never really bought him as anything other

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Speaker 6: based on something he had done much earlier.

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Speaker 5: That didn't mean anything to me.

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Speaker 7: And Alstin so you were even further dislocated from the

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Speaker 7: glory days of Elvis. So what did he mean to you?

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Speaker 5: Well, that's that's yeah.

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Speaker 8: When I first started, if I try to forget the two.

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Speaker 5: Years that I lived with.

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Speaker 8: He really I grew up around my grandmother, who was

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Speaker 8: in high school in fifty six, so I wasn't familiar

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Speaker 8: with the seventies of us. I was more familiar with

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Speaker 8: Heartbreaker Tell blue Swede shoes, six of Us, you know,

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Speaker 8: And so that early fifties, like the Rebel of Us

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Speaker 8: was actually what I was a little bit more familiar

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Speaker 8: with through my grandmother. And I'd seen King Creole, and

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Speaker 8: I'd seen VI the Las Vegas and Gi Blues and

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Speaker 8: a couple other films, but I didn't know anything about

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Speaker 8: his life, and that like I out of such a

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Speaker 8: peripheral understanding of his life.

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Speaker 5: So the great joys.

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Speaker 8: To me were behind all these ideas of him, because

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Speaker 8: you also, like you can't help but know the Halloween

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Speaker 8: costume version of him and people's idea of him.

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Speaker 5: So for me that was just such a joy.

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Speaker 8: Strip all that away and see who is this man

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Speaker 8: and where did he really come from, because he didn't

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Speaker 5: Nowhere and sort of put it into context.

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Speaker 8: And and then also to become more familiar with the

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Speaker 8: music of the late sixties and the seventies, which is

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Speaker 8: some of the greatest music ever recorded, like the Grit

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Speaker 8: in his Voice of sixty eight, like it's the most

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Speaker 8: like it's just so raw, and then the seventies music.

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Speaker 8: I didn't realize how much I liked the big band sound,

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Speaker 8: and now that like if I'm having a bad day,

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Speaker 8: I pop on some of that music and it makes

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Speaker 7: Well, you spent so much time with his character, preparing

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Speaker 7: it and then bringing it to screen. The concert scenes

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Speaker 7: in particular, I thought were just phenomenal. And you talk about,

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Speaker 7: you know, like the tone in Elvis's voice in sixty

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Speaker 7: eight and then some of those later shows right towards

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Speaker 7: the end as well, Like to me, there was something

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Speaker 7: in his voice like he was it was I don't

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Speaker 7: know if it was desperation or whatever it was, but

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Speaker 7: it felt like he was singing as if he life

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Speaker 7: depended on because it did, I guess, And I felt

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Speaker 7: that you did such a great job of capturing that,

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Speaker 7: Like what were you thinking in those moments, like acting, singing,

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Speaker 7: the dance moves. There's a lot going on there, Like,

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Speaker 7: I guess, how did you How did you hone in

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Speaker 7: on that aspect of the performance?

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Speaker 8: Well, I think that that was the That was the

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Speaker 8: course finding what subjectively, finding that feeling inside, you know,

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Speaker 8: rather than seeing him from the outside, but trying to

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Speaker 8: as much as I could, feel what his soul was

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Speaker 8: going through at any one point. But it's a tricky

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Speaker 8: balancing act because you want to be incredibly specific. So

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Speaker 8: there's a lot of technical things that are involved of

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Speaker 8: you know, spending hours just watching what his hand's doing

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Speaker 8: and just trying to get as very specific as possible.

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Speaker 8: But for me, it was it was doing that so

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Speaker 8: much that when I was on set, I wasn't having

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Speaker 8: to think about that, and it was just feeling the

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Speaker 8: raw emotion of it. And sometimes then you know, I'd

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Speaker 8: watch playback and I'd have to hone something in a

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Speaker 8: little bit. But but it was it was really just

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Speaker 8: doing all the work as much as I could a

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Speaker 8: I could just feel like I was living and doing.

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Speaker 5: It for the first time.

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Speaker 7: It's a physicality to it as well, right, And I wondered,

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Speaker 7: you know, I often wondered, you know, what happened? What?

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Speaker 7: What what happened after one of those sort of sort

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Speaker 7: of concert says when Baz says that was great, you know,

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Speaker 7: let's go again, and it's the seventh and it's the seventh.

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Speaker 5: Winded not say that we're we got it, We're fine.

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Speaker 5: You never said anything. He has to do a lot

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Speaker 5: of tastes. Uh, you know, it was real, it was.

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Speaker 8: Real, Yeah, And it's there's moments where you feel like

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Speaker 8: collapsing afterwards, but it also you only get one time

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Speaker 8: in your life to put on Elvis's clothes and be that,

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Speaker 8: you know, so there was it was incredibly There's moments

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Speaker 8: of exhaustion, but it's so exhilarating that you you there

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Speaker 8: would be more other thing. I can't maybe walk out

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Speaker 8: on stage again, but then you do it and you

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Speaker 8: get out there and suddenly it's you're finding new things

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Speaker 8: and it's incredibly exhilarating.

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Speaker 7: And what are you thinking, tom what this is happening?

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Speaker 7: Because just like the colonel, you'll side to fan, you're watching,

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Speaker 7: you're watching this.

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Speaker 2: Well, the first our first scene together was actually in

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Speaker 2: the sixty eight Comeback Special and it was a relatively

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Speaker 2: intimate scene. It was us talking in his dressing room.

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Speaker 2: But the prior to that, I just went by to

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, let's go fly the flag at

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Speaker 2: the set.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'll be there tomorrow. And he was in

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Speaker 5: the black leather.

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Speaker 2: Suit for the nineteen sixty eight Comeback special and to

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Speaker 2: me that that is the epitome of Elvis, that everything

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Speaker 2: that was incorporated in that comeback I mean, it was

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Speaker 2: the Comeback Special, where Elvis essentially redefined himself and also

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Speaker 2: brought with him everything that he had meant since nineteen

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Speaker 2: fifty six between that and the Las Vegas appearance.

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Speaker 5: Let me let me just say that anytime someone comes

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Speaker 5: up to you he said, oh, you're in the Elvis movie.

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Speaker 6: If they saw Elvis, they say, you know, I saw

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Speaker 6: Elvis in Meridian, Mississippi in nineteen seventy two, or I

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Speaker 6: saw Elvis in Las Vegas during his third year there,

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Speaker 6: or I saw.

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Speaker 5: You know, everybody remembers where they were. You know, they

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Speaker 5: remember seeing Elvis, kind of like.

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Speaker 2: They remember seeing you know, the uh, you know, the

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Speaker 2: the Rising of the Holy Spirit, or you.

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Speaker 5: Know the you know, I saw the Virgin Mary. You know,

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Speaker 5: it was kind of like that. And so to be there, we.

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Speaker 6: Were separated because of a COVID protocol, so we never

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Speaker 6: saw each other prior to the shot.

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Speaker 5: Shoot.

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Speaker 6: I would be in my full on Kernel outfit and

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Speaker 6: we'd get to the set and then he would and

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Speaker 6: in the course of Las Vegas, he showed up behind

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Speaker 6: a rising you know, gold curtain and everybody going nuts,

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Speaker 6: and we must have did it forty times that day.

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Speaker 2: And then he would go off and see, and every

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Speaker 2: time it happened, I felt like I had been transported

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Speaker 2: back through time as watching the real Elvis Press. He

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Speaker 2: was incredibly excited. And I'm not just speaking for myself.

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Speaker 2: The two hun.

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Speaker 6: Experts that were there as well experienced it again and again.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Tom, awesome, talk to you, Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 4: It's his real name, Tom Hanks and Austin Butler talking

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Speaker 4: Elvis with our Ben O'she is only your half.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic.

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Speaker 4: There's plenty more of the people you can have. You

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Speaker 4: can check it all out by heading to the YouTube

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Speaker 4: channel A Real Talk That's with two e's with Benochet

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Speaker 4: for the full interview Real Talk, Well.

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Speaker 1: Talk, Real Talk, Ben, thank you so much. That was

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Speaker 1: such a treat to have Tom Hanks and Austin Butler on.

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Speaker 3: Oh thanks guys. It was a pleasure to be in

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Speaker 3: here today and share it with you, all

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Speaker 4: Right, Ben here at ninety six a FM