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Speaker 2: Jonty and a man is cutting full and the man

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Speaker 2: is cutting room full on the cutting room floor today?

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Speaker 2: What do we have?

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Speaker 1: I saw something that it's interesting because it made me cringe,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know why. It doesn't matter how progressive

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Speaker 1: women are in society, this stuff is still cringey.

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Speaker 2: What have you got there?

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Speaker 1: I'll show you. Have a look at this. It's a

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Speaker 1: guy and a girl in a very public place and

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Speaker 1: she gets down on one knee, gives her partner some

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Speaker 1: flowers and opens a ring box.

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Speaker 2: It's a proposal from the woman's.

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Speaker 1: And he looks incredibly awkward.

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Speaker 2: You know that looks like that is that's the European kid?

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Speaker 2: Who's the European kid? Follow him on Instagram? So it's

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Speaker 2: a parody.

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Speaker 1: Is this not real?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. Well. I don't know if that's real.

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Speaker 2: But the European kid is supposedly the offspring of a

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Speaker 2: billionaire and he complains that he hasn't got a Rolls

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Speaker 2: Royce phantom because his dad brought him the standard Rolls

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Speaker 2: Royce or the private jet's not ready for him to

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Speaker 2: go away on the weekend.

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Speaker 1: That's rage bait. It is rage, But you know it

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Speaker 1: is worked in this case because even if this isn't

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Speaker 1: a real.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people saying to that, they acknowledged that

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Speaker 2: the European.

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Speaker 1: Kid, well, not that I can see here. But and

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Speaker 1: it's interesting to discuss why it makes us so uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: People are saying, ladies, never proposed to a man. It's

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Speaker 1: a sign of desperation. It tramples on his manhood. This

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Speaker 1: is embarrassing. He doesn't seem too thrilled. Is he a

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Speaker 1: man now? If he wanted to, he would have done it.

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Speaker 1: Don't be this desperate, ladies. If this was real, though

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Speaker 1: you don't know the circumstances. I looked at this and thought,

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Speaker 1: maybe everyone's going, well, this is terror. Maybe they've been

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Speaker 1: together for ten years and she's finally going, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I've got to push this along. Why should she say

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do it privately so he doesn't get embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: This happens to women all the time, public proposals, whether

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Speaker 1: you want them or not. But it does make you

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable when you see a girl proposed to a guy,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know why. It doesn't matter how feminist

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Speaker 1: you are, this rankles.

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Speaker 2: It's demasculating when you look at it.

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Speaker 1: Is that because just historically we've always done it a

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Speaker 1: certain way, and I think women still want to be

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Speaker 1: the one that is proposed to. It doesn't matter how

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Speaker 1: equal your relationship is, it doesn't matter how progressive. There's

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Speaker 1: a moment where you think, I want him to say

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Speaker 1: the words.

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Speaker 2: Knowing this, girls will be girls and boys will be boys.

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Speaker 2: It's a mixed up Chica world that we have these days.

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Speaker 2: I still think that something like that, we want to

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Speaker 2: go with those typical roles.

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Speaker 1: Those typical roles, interesting, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what it's about. Also, I think if

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Speaker 2: a woman, it kind of makes sense for women to

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Speaker 2: actually ask men for their hand in marriage because men

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Speaker 2: never get around to us.

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Speaker 1: This is the thing, That's what I mean. You don't

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Speaker 1: know the circumstances when they're saying, oh, women look desperate, Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe they've waited for five years, their child bearing days

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Speaker 1: are disappearance. It's a now or it's never. You help me,

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. This is a joint decision. We're both

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Speaker 1: earning money. This isn't you sweeping me off my feet.

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Speaker 1: Let's be practical here, but let's move this relationship along.

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Speaker 2: It does. It makes perfect sense. The woman has the

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Speaker 2: biological clock. Yeah, the woman should be the one that proposes.

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Speaker 1: And yet it still gives us the ick. Interesting. If

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Speaker 1: you'd like to comment on any of this, or you

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Speaker 1: can always go to our socials. You can at Jones

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Speaker 1: and Amanda and give us your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Also, it approves to me that the European kid must

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Speaker 2: be worried. He's becoming a bit of relevant, so now

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Speaker 2: he's doing rage bait.

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