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Speaker 1: Get a. I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,

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Speaker 1: and professional overshare us. This podcast is all about celebrating

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Speaker 1: failure because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,

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Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview

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Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows,

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Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Hello, Gangles,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the pod. Today we have Daisy Mac, founder

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Speaker 1: of Spiritual Mixtape, on the Potter Roony. Now I do

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Speaker 1: this scene whenever a friend comes on the pod, I

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Speaker 1: get really nervous, especially about the intro. I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: hope it's good enough. It's so weird every single time.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna call that out straight out of

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Speaker 1: the gate, and now I can totally gush and tell

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Speaker 1: you everything that I love about Daisy. Now on this pod,

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Speaker 1: she talks about having a super high powered executive career.

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Speaker 1: She was Massive Agent VP before thirty four, and she

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Speaker 1: was like ticking all the financial boxes, the status boxes,

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Speaker 1: but she was just missing that purpose and that passion,

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Speaker 1: you know, that thing that kind of like lights your

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Speaker 1: heart on fire. And she faced a lot of grief,

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Speaker 1: went through a lot of loss and that kind of

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Speaker 1: forced her take some space away from that job, and

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Speaker 1: she literally went from executive career to breath work and

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Speaker 1: Spiritual Mixtape was born from her love of both both

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Speaker 1: music and breath work. And she's such a joy to

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Speaker 1: listen to. She's got her own wonderful podcast, and I

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Speaker 1: have put all her details in the show notes from her,

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Speaker 1: I've even put a breathwork session in the show notes

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Speaker 1: as well. But her website's on there, her insta, her pod.

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Speaker 1: Do yourself a favor. Listen to her Potter Rooney. It's

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Speaker 1: really good as well if you're into astrology and just

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Speaker 1: like what's going on in the zeitgeist at the moment, Daisy,

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Speaker 1: you are absolutely wonderful. I cannot wait to see what

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Speaker 1: comes next for you. You are a lovely human being and

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Speaker 1: I feel very lucky because I feel like I get

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Speaker 1: to call you a mate now. So thank you for

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Speaker 1: being a friend. Right, I'm hitting record because we've already

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Speaker 1: cracked each other up. Where already chit chatting. So Daisy Mack,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the pod.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Of Spiritual Mixtape, which I feel like fits our age

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Speaker 1: group so perfectly because it does because mixtapes like remind

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Speaker 1: takes me straight back to like I want to say,

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Speaker 1: you know, in Australia, it's probably a different grade system

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Speaker 1: because you're British, but we're in beautiful America right now.

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Speaker 1: I reckon mixtapes take me back to like years nine

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Speaker 2: School, so that's like what twelve to fourteen? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's the same. The same for me. But we we

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Speaker 2: did a lot on CD as well, yes, CD of course,

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Speaker 2: and they don't work as well, Like I've kept a

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Speaker 2: lot of mine and they're scratched, but it's nice to

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Speaker 2: read who they were from what the songs were that

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Speaker 2: they put on them.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever date somebody and they'd make your mixtape

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Speaker 2: No, I need to have a word with my husband.

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Speaker 1: It's like such a romantic.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is a good business idea as well,

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Speaker 2: but there must be like huge licensing problems to do.

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Speaker 2: But could you imagine if you got that in the

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Speaker 2: post like it that you couldn't listen to? I would

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Speaker 2: be delighted. Just have the playlist on me too.

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Speaker 1: No. One thousand, said Joe. I did, I asked my

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Speaker 1: I asked him to the formal on radio, so had

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Speaker 3: I hit records. I could remember asking him to the

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Speaker 3: what to have that I've got to go through, mums,

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Speaker 3: I gotta go. I'll be like going through the old

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Speaker 3: stuff for sure.

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Speaker 2: I used to did you record like the top four?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: And that I used to like stop it when I

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Speaker 1: Yes, ah, so good, Okay, Well, I am excited to

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Speaker 1: self development. I thought we're both passionate about this topic.

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Speaker 1: But can we start with like, because your career trajectory

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Speaker 1: took a huge turn, Like you went from almost like

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Speaker 1: that super executive. Will you be p it thirty four?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? A bit younger? Yeah? Really? Yeah? An agent at

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Speaker 2: twenty seven? Well, I was already an agent before that,

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Speaker 2: I moved out here at thirty one.

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Speaker 1: That'so young to come to Los Angeles as an agent

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Speaker 2: Be yeah, all the things.

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Speaker 1: Because it's I imagine it's like, from what I can imagine,

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Speaker 1: you're on twenty four to seven emails anytime of the day.

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Speaker 2: It never it never stopped. It was really relentless. And

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Speaker 2: I will say that there are definitely I don't know

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Speaker 2: what other agencies are like, but definitely William Morris did

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Speaker 2: try to instigate boundaries and that's not it's not meat trying, like.

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Speaker 1: Who's listening?

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Speaker 2: Like they I actually think that they taught me how

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Speaker 2: bad it looked to be responding to emails first thing

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Speaker 2: still an onus on you to get through your work

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Speaker 2: because we were the best of the best, Yeah, top

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Speaker 1: You started me because you're really passionate about music, right,

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Speaker 1: it's still one of your.

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Speaker 2: It's still it's still the I think it can help you.

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Speaker 2: It changes a mood completely, and I mean it really works.

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Speaker 2: It really still ticks all of my boxes. It helps

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Speaker 2: me feel better. It changes the way you think and

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Speaker 2: feel about a situation. I was teaching about the throat

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Speaker 2: chakra the other day and I put together a playlist

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Speaker 2: for the class of eighties and nineties. Nice such just

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Speaker 2: things that you can sit in the corn like belt out. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: best way of unlocking your throat energy. Oh love, I

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Speaker 1: The nineties. Then sign me up. So I have to ask,

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Speaker 1: because I do love the story of how you got

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Speaker 1: into the music industry. So was it more from a

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Speaker 2: MySpace Day, Well, so I was in I got my

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Speaker 2: pre two thousand and eight, so the world was a

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Speaker 2: I went to Paris six times in this first year

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I've arrived and I can look out

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Speaker 2: the window and see the Eiffel Tower and I was like,

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Speaker 2: this is incredible. I felt like a young, healthy version

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Speaker 2: doing all the things.

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Speaker 1: Then it's part of like the energy where everyone's and

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Speaker 2: So you know, I've really got to go back and

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Speaker 2: like look at this, because I definitely know how it happened.

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Speaker 2: I had another job in between. Really well, so here's

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Speaker 2: There was a nightclub called Cuckoo. It still exists in London,

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Speaker 2: and at that point it was a members club and

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Speaker 2: was great, happy days. It was very it was very

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Speaker 1: And did you go from agent? And one thing you

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Speaker 1: should know about my brain. It's like a pinball machine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So when I came to LA, I went from

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Speaker 2: agency to management. That came I won't name the act,

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Speaker 1: How cool because there's make something of andourage. I'm probably

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was definitely a caregiver. And well

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Speaker 2: in human design. Actually learning my human design was one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest healing activities that could have happened to me.

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Speaker 2: Because my whole neat like, my whole way of being

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Speaker 2: the worst thing that you can do because I can't.

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Speaker 2: I can't just answer the most important I have to

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Speaker 2: respond to everything because it's literally in my makeup. I

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Speaker 2: feel like I'm failing. I feel like life is incomplete

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Speaker 2: unless I get to all the tasks. So if you

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Speaker 2: have one hundred things, which is you will for management,

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Speaker 2: all going in different directions, I can't just go to

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Speaker 2: eventually because there was just too much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if that's your So what's that called in

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Speaker 1: the human design? What's yours?

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I can't. I want to nerd out a

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Speaker 1: little bit over breath work. Are we allowed to do that?

437
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Speaker 2: We absolutely all the time?

438
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Speaker 1: This is why not? This is your passion, This is

439
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Speaker 1: like but I've done I'm one of those people that's

440
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Speaker 1: dip my toe in a few of the breath work

441
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Speaker 1: waters wim hof and ice baths, and I've done breath

442
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: work of course, like workday workshops and stuff like that.

443
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Speaker 1: But I was so excited to watch I think it

444
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Speaker 1: was a YouTube clip of yours around. You call it

445
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Speaker 1: recovery breath so inhale, inhale, exile. So for the last

446
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Speaker 1: three days as I've been driving, I've been doing this.

447
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: It grounds you straight away? Is that? So? Obviously you

448
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: have and I love all the sound bath stuff that

449
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: you've done all this, but like, is that one of

450
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Speaker 1: your like I don't even want to use word primary,

451
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Speaker 1: but like, do you come back to this style like

452
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Speaker 1: recovery breath style?

453
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all the time, all the time. And it's it's

454
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: taught all over the place. This isn't like a special

455
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 2: thing that I've come up with. And I'm pretty sure

456
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 2: it's a medical It's taught by doctors and nurses. And

457
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Speaker 2: I can after like next time or in the show notes,

458
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: I can give you like where I got it from

459
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 2: and give you the book and everything, and it's just

460
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: it's so easy to teach people instant, right, Yeah, instant.

461
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Speaker 2: And the whole thing with breath work for me is

462
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Speaker 2: I know that a lot of people want to do

463
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Speaker 2: the holotropic Yeah. For me, that's not what breath work

464
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Speaker 2: is about. And there are definitely people who can teach

465
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Speaker 2: that sort of breath far better than I can. For me,

466
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Speaker 2: breath work is about doing what your body can do

467
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Speaker 2: best and help your body get to where it should

468
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Speaker 2: be easily. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I love that you've just simplified it completely but made

470
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Speaker 1: it so accessible.

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Speaker 2: Good. I will I will take whatever I just said,

472
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Speaker 2: like he's on my website next time, please.

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Speaker 1: Please please do no it because I think breath work

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Speaker 1: can feel when it's that what's the word use has

475
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Speaker 1: a holotropic. Yeah. So I did a class here in

476
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Speaker 1: La of that and like people were crying.

477
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Speaker 2: And people that want to do kndleni and stuff.

478
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I understand it's full. You got a

479
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: place it was very confronting for me to be in

480
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: having only done like a bit of Yogi breath work

481
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Speaker 1: of like alternate nostril breathing and a bit of box

482
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Speaker 1: breathing here and there, and I remember being in that

483
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Speaker 1: space and just being like, oh, this is a bit

484
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: too confronting for where for what I want to get

485
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Speaker 1: out of breath weak, which for me is like I

486
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Speaker 1: want to just connect Yeah, my body, my breath, myself

487
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Speaker 1: and I just my whole thing is like I want

488
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Speaker 1: to feel clear.

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Speaker 2: None of us do really, Or there's a walk that

490
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Speaker 2: you have to go on to get clear every day.

491
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Speaker 2: If you don't take the walk, you're just not going

492
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Speaker 2: to You're just never going to get there. Your body

493
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: needs to regulate. And loads of people now are talking

494
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Speaker 2: about nervous system regulation and good, good, yeah, good finally,

495
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: but the reality is it's really not that hard. It's very,

496
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Speaker 2: very simple. And I will say like this, I've always

497
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: been like, oh, anyone could do it any like, once

498
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Speaker 2: I teach you the basics, you can do it for yourself.

499
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: And that is true, but there is something to be

500
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Speaker 2: said about having a great teacher who can hold space

501
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: for you. And I know you're a yogi, so you

502
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: know this well. Like there's a difference between going to.

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Speaker 1: Oh big time, I can't do a home yoga practice.

504
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh, you must get up every morning, pop

505
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: out a few sun AI's. No I do not.

506
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Speaker 2: I mean me neither, and like reaching for my phone.

507
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: But it is also where the idea for spiritual mixtape

508
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: came from. It's this idea of kind of like building

509
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: like what you would want on your own spiritual mixtape.

510
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm feeling.

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Speaker 1: Here's Daisy my breath work, you know, like and having

512
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Speaker 1: that I guess.

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Speaker 2: That special tape just for you one hundred like this.

514
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: I do this because I had to heal myself. I

515
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: would not be here. If I thought I could have

516
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: gone back to the music industry, have my salary, have

517
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Speaker 2: my status, I would have gone right back now. I didn't.

518
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Speaker 2: That option wasn't open to me and now that like

519
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: I talk about this with James and I'm like, oh,

520
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: that's my husband. Now that I'm well, could I go back?

521
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Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, I could, because I think I

522
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: could leave it in the office, But could I I

523
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: don't think I really got it in me to ever

524
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Speaker 2: do that. And because I know that I stay on

525
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: this journey with spiritual myth because having the tools showing

526
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: up for yourself every day, not abandoning yourself. I mean

527
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Speaker 2: that's definitely ooh a big a woman thing, but like

528
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Speaker 2: I have a lot of clients who are men where

529
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: that happens as well. You abandon yourself for a job.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. I like these I've got so

531
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Speaker 1: many quotes from you, but freedom to choose what you

532
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Speaker 1: really want to do. And I think when you really

533
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Speaker 1: sit in that, it's obviously kind of scary as well. Yeah,

534
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: but like if you I always whenever I was younger

535
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: and would get stressed and I did my teacher training

536
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: around twenty seven, I'd be like, what what would I

537
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: do if nothing else mattered, Like if money didn't matter,

538
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: if like nothing, like if I had every thing I

539
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: needed to live the way I wanted to living and

540
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: I was like, number one, live in a tree house.

541
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Speaker 1: All right, Okay, let's work backwards from the treehouse, you know.

542
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: And then I was like, all right, hold space for

543
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: cool creative people. I was like, okay, this is before

544
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: I even out a pot. And I was like and

545
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: I kind of like figure out like and it changes.

546
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Speaker 1: And I love that you talk to that as well.

547
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: But I think having the freedom to choose what you

548
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: really want to do is such a purpose driven way

549
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: to live. And talking to you now, I think you

550
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: could easily go back to the management agent job and

551
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: do a ripper job of it, thank you. But I

552
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: think the purpose piece.

553
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, not there anymore, would would.

554
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: Be like hang on a set, Hang on a set.

555
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: There's a little that you've got to keep that flicker

556
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: in your heart. I think that little like spark and

557
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: keep like you know, when you're lighting a fie and

558
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: you want to like flow on it and like it.

559
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: That to me is spiritual mixtape for you. That's your heart.

560
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: I have like a little Yogi story for you that

561
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: relates to that. So when I was back in Silver Lake,

562
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: so this is five years ago, and I was doing

563
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: privates at home with my yoga teacher who I went

564
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: and did my two hundred hours with This is all

565
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: while working full time but desperately trying to heal this

566
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: PTSD in this depression. She said to me at the

567
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Speaker 2: end of a private when I couldn't do I still

568
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: couldn't do a son a and I was in the

569
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Speaker 2: middle of teacher training. I know at this actually goes

570
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: to what we were talking about before the pod. She

571
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: just looked at me and was like, I've got to

572
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: give you some advice. Is this okay? So obviously at

573
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: the time I didn't understand unsolicited advice. Everybody gave me

574
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: advice all the time. Yeah, And I was like, yes,

575
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: it's okay. She said, if your job doesn't light you up,

576
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Speaker 2: you shouldn't do it anymore. And I looked at her

577
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, but they pay me, and she's like,

578
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: that is not the same thing. And I honestly thought

579
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Speaker 2: that my time was worth a certain amount of money

580
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Speaker 2: and that's all that the exchange was. I didn't think

581
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Speaker 2: that there was an energy exchange. And that day I'd

582
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: had to wellness check a client. It was fine, but

583
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: just hadn't been answering their phone, and it was just

584
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: things like that, like that's not why am I? Well,

585
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: like what is going on? That's never going to light

586
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: you up? No?

587
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: So what was what did you say when she said

588
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: that to you? So you were like, okay, well they

589
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: pay me, so my time is it's an energy exchange

590
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: of just money. But did something go like flicking your

591
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: mind with like hang on, hang on a six.

592
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Speaker 2: So that was in about April, and then I quit

593
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Speaker 2: my job beginning of August. I didn't stop talk like

594
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: thinking about it over in it and I kept looking

595
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 2: for other signs and other ways of reassuring myself. And

596
00:33:54,760 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: then the thing I saw a spiritual advisor on like

597
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: the beginning of August, and then my dad called and said,

598
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Speaker 2: I'm I've decided. I've told the hospital I'm not going

599
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: to take any more treatment. And then it was the

600
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Speaker 2: lions Gate eight eight to the eighth, the water and

601
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 2: then I quit my job. I was just like there

602
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: was too many Like yeah, I was like what am

603
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: I doing? I emailed James his office was downstairs like

604
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: in a different same same building, different company, and was

605
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: just like, I think I need to quit and he

606
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: was like what are you waiting for? Ah? Quit my

607
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: job and went straight home asaw, my dad.

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Speaker 1: You're giving me knows and how I said that to

609
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Speaker 1: my boyfriend. That means I'm going to cry.

610
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: Knows.

611
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: It's like, what's no so what?

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Speaker 1: James sounds like the best teammate ever.

613
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: He's very, very, very important to me, and I'm glad

614
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: to be on the other side of all of this

615
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: so we can just enjoy and grow together rather than

616
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 2: him needing to be a big support. And there was

617
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: even a point like this week when we're talking of

618
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: being humbled. This wasn't even like the work situation I

619
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 2: was telling you about. I complained about my podcast, all

620
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: of my poor podcast.

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Speaker 1: Now you spoke beautiful. Listen to you spoke beautifully.

622
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Speaker 2: At the beginning of the week, I had another humbling

623
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Speaker 2: moment and he came in and found me crying on

624
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Speaker 2: the sofa. I was like, oh God, it's so hard

625
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: to start over. And he was brilliant and just said you,

626
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: I've just done one of your breath works and you

627
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: say over and over again to practice patients And he's like,

628
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: are you practicing patients? And I was like, oh, I

629
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: hate using my own words.

630
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: Oh he's a leg that's what you want.

631
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to. You need to have your room

632
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: intertwine and become more intertwined as you grow up and

633
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: grow older.

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00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: And I've heard you talk about though, having like that

635
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: community around you of like friends that believe in you

636
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: and champion you and see you and and you're not

637
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: hiking one day and I was like, I've got a

638
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: friend that told me I've got zero points zero one

639
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: percent chance of making as an action and I should

640
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: go back to nutrition. And you just reached across and

641
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: grabbed my arm and you were like, we didn't know

642
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: each other very well, and you go, please don't listen

643
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: to that friend. And I was like, oh my god,

644
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: got each he knows like holding factor is at that.

645
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: But it was just it was such a great moment

646
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: for me to be like, Yeah, I actually just need

647
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: people around me that they don't even need to necessarily

648
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: believe or understand how I'm going to get my dreams,

649
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: but just to like meet me and be like.

650
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: I think, like, it's so hard to have a dream,

651
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: so many of us like ignore it. So if you're

652
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: already here in La trying your best, taking classes, and

653
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 2: what I think is amazing about you is you don't

654
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: even need to have a dream, like you're already living

655
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: a dream, yet you're out here being like there are

656
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: more things my soul is able to do and you're

657
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: still you're still dreaming.

658
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: It's probably no surprise. I'm a manifesting generator.

659
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: Is that track you?

660
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, dream, new dream, the two dreams at

661
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: the same time.

662
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: Wouldn't life be boring if all your friends were just

663
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: like I could talk about them, no disrespect of accountants,

664
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: but I talk about them as my accountants. Like if

665
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: everybody was just sitting there like watching your bank balance

666
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 2: for you.

667
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: Well, you've got to be This is the thing about

668
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: dreams as well. You've got to have an element of courage.

669
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: And there's got to be that moment where if anyone

670
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: listening has skydived, there has to be that moment where

671
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: you jump out of the plane. Yeah, and it's that

672
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: real risk, like I don't know how this is gonna go,

673
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: and I have skydived. I loved it. That's one of

674
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: my favorite things I've ever done. And same. I got

675
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: a similar feeling when I was found with whale sharks,

676
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: but that's a lot gentler. But there is a moment

677
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: where your brain is like don't do this. You're gonna die,

678
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: something bad is gonna happen, and you still do it

679
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: and it becomes the most euphoric thing ever, right, And

680
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: so I always think you've still got it. Your dreams

681
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: are amazing and they like are a beautiful little like

682
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: they'll guide you and whatnot. But then you've also got

683
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: to have this like I don't know if it's gumption

684
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: or like something where you're just like I want to

685
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: jump out of that I'm gonna jump out of that

686
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: metaphoric plant and just like really, and it's so scary.

687
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: And that's why, like, it's really nice that you shared

688
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: just the other day you having a teary on the

689
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: couch because it's flipping hard and it's confronting even when

690
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: it's going great.

691
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really it is. It is hard. And I

692
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: think I've had two points like that this week. And

693
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: all I tell myself is the more you're willing to

694
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: be seen and to be of value, the more these

695
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: moments will come up. And that's okay. I was scared

696
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: for a long time and I hid in jobs. Frankly,

697
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: like now when I look back at it, I'm like, oh,

698
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: I was hiding there I was hiding behind.

699
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: A big title that would have been a safety Yeah.

700
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as a woman, like we we're more vulnerable.

701
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: I don't want I hope I'm not upsetting anybody by

702
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: saying that, but there's a fact I have many thoughts

703
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: on astrology about this.

704
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. You want up astrology, go for it.

705
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 2: If you want well life. I spent a long time

706
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: denying that I was a woman and that things were

707
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: harder for me. I definitely didn't get jobs or I

708
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: lost clients to male colleagues. I was paid less I

709
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: won't say at which company than my male colleagues, even

710
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: though I worked harder.

711
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: I saw, didn't you have an interview somewhere and they're like, hey,

712
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: you were twenty seven. They're like, are you intending on

713
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: having family having kids? Because you're not a fit for us.

714
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: If that's the case, one hundred percent is illegal, right,

715
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. And one of the people that said

716
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 2: that to me has only just retired only Yeah. Yeah,

717
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 2: So what I want to bring I actually do want

718
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: to bring in the astrology because I was thinking about

719
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: it this morning. I have been a bit crazy about

720
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: this transit that's coming on the twentieth. So when this

721
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: comes out two.

722
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: Days later, two days just been through.

723
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: We've got it for fourteen years. Don't worry.

724
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: You might have missed the thing as the Yeah, jupiters Taurus.

725
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're three kind of contradicting energies. So Jupiter

726
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: and Uranus are obviously planets, and I like to think

727
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 2: of them. You gave me a great word the other day,

728
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: an ensemble cast. Yes, So these are my two like

729
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: characters from ted Lass, like ted and what's Hannah? What's Hannah?

730
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I can now think of everybody's real, real,

731
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: my favorite Jamie Tart. Okay, so that's actually good. So

732
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: let's Roy Kent and Jamie. Yeah. So they're so they're

733
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: Uranus and Jupiter, and then what they're dealing with is

734
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: the football club Richmond. Richmond is Taurus, so that's what like,

735
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: that's what's happening. So they're dealing with like Richmond football

736
00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 2: club themes. So for Taurus themes, it's finances and the Earth.

737
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 2: And we'll come back to the Earth in a second.

738
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: We'll just deal with finances. But Uranus has been in

739
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: Taurus since twenty eighteen, Okay, and that means it's been

740
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: trying to revolutionize our financial systems since twenty eighteen. For me,

741
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: I have my spiritual awakening and my big why am

742
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: I making money like this beginning twenty eighteen, and I

743
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 2: haven't been able to look away from it. What's amazing

744
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: for all of us right now is that Jupiter the

745
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: planet of expansion. It's like your big, generous, cuddly friend

746
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: who wants to not just take you out for dinner,

747
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: wants to help you, wants to put you in the

748
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: right rooms so that you can pay for dinner next time.

749
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: Like that's what Jupiter feels like on It's not just

750
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: on a good day, on like every day, Like that's

751
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: that is what its character is like. And Jupiter is

752
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: now lending that vibration to everything that Uranus has been

753
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: trying to do. So Uranus has been like this little

754
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: rebellious upstart trying to make please listen to me, like

755
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: let's start a revolution, and everyone's been like we're a

756
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: patriarchy and we're bigger than you. And now Jupiter's like,

757
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: not anything, I'm gonna give Uranus like a nice so

758
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: for us who are working for themselves and sole led

759
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: businesses and This is also what I've been thinking a

760
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,479
Speaker 2: lot about this week, is it's so difficult to run

761
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 2: a heart led business, a sole led business when all

762
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: the systems are not just patriarchy, they're just old banking,

763
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: old Like it's a get the most, you know, get

764
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: the most out of someone and give them the least.

765
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

766
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to give everybody the most and give

767
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: myself the least. And it's so that's what's so brilliant.

768
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 2: And I think, I'm like, why am I so crazy

769
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: about this transit that's coming, Like why is it? Like

770
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: it's making my whole body reverberate. And it's like, well,

771
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: because for me, this is the first sign that the

772
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: change that I need to be able to run my

773
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: business how I want that and not go back to

774
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: the job I used to do, because you know, at

775
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: some stage you're like, you just you can't treat this

776
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 2: as a hobby, Like it has to start turning a

777
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: like not a sizable profit, but it just can't be

778
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: a hobby anymore.

779
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: You've got going to be able to sustain you want

780
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: it to. Oh yeah, and also in a helping souls

781
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: perspective as well, like the more it grows, the more

782
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: people you get to help.

783
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: One hundred And that's always something like when I'm like,

784
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 2: oh no, people are going to post that thing on

785
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: social media and people are going to see me, and

786
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: it's like they might. You might just be able that

787
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: one person that needs it. That's all. You've just got

788
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: to focus on all the other people judging you, Why

789
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 2: would you worry about them? They can't anyway, didn't we?

790
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: You and I both are judging is just a reflection

791
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: of the own their own crap anyway, doesn't even matter.

792
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. When I'm judging someone I know, it's

793
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 2: like I know that. That is like, oh no, Daisy,

794
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: what what have you neglected to do yourself here? There's

795
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 2: something going on.

796
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm so excited that you shared that though, because I

797
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty sure around tree and teams. When

798
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: I started at started studying acting training and stepped away

799
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 1: from nutrition, and people like you're crazy. You've got a

800
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: really successful career as a cookbook author, and I was like,

801
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: if after write another date ball recipe, I want to

802
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: put a fork in my eye, and people like, no,

803
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: but you've got this great and I'm like, I know,

804
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: I've loved it, but like I have a theory as

805
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: well with purpose stuff. If you're doing something that is

806
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: not in alignment with your purpose, you're essentially taking that

807
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: job away from somebody else who might be their purpose.

808
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: So I'm like, make the space for the other. Veyle,

809
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: focus on your passion and what you love, and then you,

810
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just like that to leave me.

811
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: So it's really exciting to hear perhaps we've got this

812
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: energy for fourteen years.

813
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: Well, so here's where it gets another layer to it.

814
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: So the thing that's exciting about next week is that

815
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: Uranus and Jupiter will be next to each other. So

816
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 2: they call it conjunct. I'm not an astrologer, but I

817
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: but you love it, but I love it. And another way,

818
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: like another word for it is like aligned. So these

819
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: these two planets that have quite contrasting ideas are finally aligned.

820
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: It's like having you know someone that you're like, I

821
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 2: love the idea of that person, but we don't necessarily,

822
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you're just on the same

823
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: page and it makes you so much more power. So

824
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 2: that's what's happening next week. And the thing that is

825
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: very unusual for all of us is that these two

826
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: planets get together every thirteen fourteen years, but in a

827
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 2: different zodiac sign. They won't be back in Taurus until lifetime.

828
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: Maybe not in our lifetime. I want to say that. Well,

829
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: the last time it happened was nineteen forty one, right,

830
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: wild yeah, wild one, So I wasn't around there. I

831
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 2: love Tourus energy too well because it's grounding and earthy.

832
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: So the other I'm not going to call it a

833
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: flip side, but the other like element, well the other

834
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: sort of you know, not to throw booboo things out there,

835
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: but is it those two planets together because of the

836
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: idea of shock waves can predict earthquakes, got it, And

837
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: they're sort of close to each other until the end

838
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: of June. Okay, so the other thing that astrologers are

839
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 2: predicting is more seismic activity. So obviously there's all been

840
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: this sort of.

841
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: Earthquake in New York And did you say that it

842
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: was four point eight and then the date of the

843
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 1: eclipse was four eight.

844
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: Everybody's always i mean, I'm getting goosebumps as you say that,

845
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: because everyone's like, oh, these things are not connected, and

846
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: it's just like the world is full of patterns. Yeah,

847
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 2: everything's a pattern and I can't tell you what that

848
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: one was for or what it meant, but there is

849
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: far more intelligence and ordering. Like everything seems so crazy

850
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 2: and out of sync, but actually it's kind of chaotic

851
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: order going on, yeah in there. And if you start

852
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: to watch the patterns, which is basically what astrology is,

853
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 2: what happens up there isn't like a directive of what's

854
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: going to happen down here. It's not like somebody's sitting

855
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: up there just like writing, oh well, we're all going

856
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: to feel this because this is what's happening in the sky.

857
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: But it's to do with archetypes and energetic patterns that

858
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 2: repeat themselves. And because we seem to have a really

859
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: bad habits humans, is not learning from our mistakes.

860
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: Yes, we would rather stay in a habit than like

861
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: get uncomfortable and move through and make a positive change.

862
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Client said to me the other day,

863
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: we would rather stay in a familiar hell than find

864
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: an unknown heaven. Completely, Yes, I've never heard that before.

865
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: That it's just like oh wow, yeah, yeah.

866
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, so fascinating. Even like from a nutrition perspective,

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Speaker 1: if I needed clients to make changes I'd only be

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Speaker 1: able to do two or three changes at one time

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Speaker 1: because we repeat it from a meal. If you think

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Speaker 1: about it, how many dinners do you make? Usually it's

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Speaker 1: five on repeats. So fascinating. We are fascinating. Humans are

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Speaker 1: so fascinating. It's really interesting because I had a I

873
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 1: interviewed a psychic friend on the pod last week and

874
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: he literally was like, Babe, I'm flying out, and I go,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean. He's like, I am out of

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Speaker 1: America before the eclipse, and I go, wine, He's like,

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Speaker 1: the energy is I am? I am? And I said,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, Matts sitting there and I can see

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00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: MAT's like slowly like breathing a bit quicker and stuff.

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00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: And he's like, don't worry. You guys are fine. I

881
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Speaker 1: would have felt something. I bad to tell you something,

882
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: and he's like, you're right, don't worry about it. You're protected.

883
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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, but yeah, he was very much

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Speaker 1: about saying about like the energy shifting and stuff happening, and.

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Speaker 2: Especially in America. Yeah, it's like this is the end

886
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 2: of Rome or something over here. And I don't again,

887
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: like this isn't about demon gloom. And it takes a

888
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: long time to end an empire anyway. Yeah, but it's

889
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: it's Pluto return, Like we're finally coming back to the

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Speaker 2: same place in the sky where Pluto was when America

891
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: was born. Because it's not very old like in the

892
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Speaker 2: ground streme way. Yeah, and it's it's big system shifts,

893
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: permanent shifts, permanent energy shifts. And if you don't feel that,

894
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: then you are so busy living in an old system

895
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Speaker 2: that's based on fear. Time to like get with it,

896
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Speaker 2: and to be honest, I do think that the people

897
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Speaker 2: who feel the chain. I actually think the people desperately

898
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Speaker 2: holding on feel it more than anybody else. That's why

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Speaker 2: they're so desperate to hold together these systems that marginalize

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Speaker 2: part of our society, rather than bringing everybody in together

901
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 2: and comby our like making everybody happy and clappy.

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Speaker 1: Do you think with all this change essentially that's going

903
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: to be occurring, the way to move through and navigate

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Speaker 1: through it is to just stay like really present and

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Speaker 1: just being like well like as opposed to like.

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Speaker 2: Being afraid one hundred percent. You've just got a ground

907
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 2: and you've got to trust. Yeah, if you haven't been

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00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: a terrible person, I still believe this, even though I

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00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: do see good people not getting what they deserve out

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Speaker 2: of life, like that's sadly a part of being human.

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Speaker 2: But I do believe that if you don't have a dirty,

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Speaker 2: smelly karma, just ground get up every day, try to

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Speaker 2: do the best that you can, and you will be protected.

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Speaker 2: You will get through, and if there are tough things

915
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Speaker 2: that happen, they'll benefit you in the long run. It's

916
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Speaker 2: taken a long time, truly to feel like that. And

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Speaker 2: when you hear about someone's in a car crash and

918
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Speaker 2: they lose alimure, like, how is that fucking fair? Like

919
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 2: there's nothing fair about that. But when you stop raging

920
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 2: about it and you realize, well, actually still here, still loved. Okay,

921
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Speaker 2: this is enough to start again, because we do have

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Speaker 2: to keep like start starting over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, big time. Well, even when at the moment, I've

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Speaker 1: been teaching a lot of yoga here and after Shavasnar,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, we've just had a mini death. Essentially, let's

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Speaker 1: have a mini rebirth. Like each time you're on there, mad,

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Speaker 1: it's like a little opportunity. And I feel like even

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Speaker 1: with you with breath work as well, like that's such

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to like have a like little mini reset,

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Speaker 1: a little mini like check in, a little mini.

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Speaker 2: Like come back to this idea of trust one hundred

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Speaker 2: and ten percent. I remember the first time I realized

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Speaker 2: that corpse pose was actually being.

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Speaker 1: I know, it sounds morbid and very macab butt. First

935
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Speaker 1: you're like what, and then you're like, this is actually

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Speaker 1: not a bad concept.

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Speaker 2: The yogis in the corpse post. It's so beautiful to

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Speaker 2: start again. Like my favorite breath work, the one that

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Speaker 2: does so well. It's actually a favorite of our mutual

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Speaker 2: friend Beck, is called begin again because you just get

941
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Speaker 2: to reset it in your body.

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Speaker 1: Oh I need to do this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give it to you afterwards. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Do you know that? I will end on something Beck said,

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Speaker 1: And she said, every single time she hits play on

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Speaker 1: one of your breath works, she's like, there's just something

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Speaker 1: about Daisy's voice. It just like drops me. And as

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Speaker 1: I was preparing for this podcast, I was like, Beck's right,

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Speaker 1: Daisy has a brilliant voice, So please don't ever stop

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Speaker 1: doing this. You are wonderful to the listener. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have all of Daisy's details in the show notes. You

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Speaker 1: have a wonderful podcast that I just love, love, love love.

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Speaker 1: It's been a really like warm hug coming to LA

954
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Speaker 1: and being able to listen to your voice, especially if

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Speaker 1: I'm hike and working through stuff, I'm like, nah, it's

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00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: daisy time like wack. So I can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: what happens to that pod. And it's such beautiful pod

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Speaker 1: artwork too, by the way, Thank you love it. You

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00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: love what you've created. And I'm going to with James

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Speaker 1: and give you some of your own medicine back and

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Speaker 1: just trust now like I'm really excited for you and

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what comes next.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, and I feel the same about.

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Speaker 1: You, Ntate. We get to watch each other's journeys is

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Speaker 1: the best, see your friend. That's a wrap on another

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Speaker 1: episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, thank you to our guests,

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Speaker 1: and let's continue the conversation on Instagram. I'm at Yumo Lollerberry.

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Speaker 1: This potty my word for podcast is available on all

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Speaker 1: streaming platforms. I'd love it if you could subscribe, rape

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